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2012-12-28 11:05 AM
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gearboy - 2012-12-28 5:54 AM

But my younger daughter was telling me recently about how she went to the store with her apartment-mates, and the roomies were about to buy a bag of "instant mashed potatoes" because they did not know how to make mashed potatoes from actual potatoes (fortunately, my daughter rescued them from the culinary disaster that was to follow).

I hate to admit it.... but I love instant mashed potatoes. They are to real mashes potatoes as Taco Bell is to Mexican food, but covered in butter and salt.... YUM.



2012-12-28 11:06 AM
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We raise a garden, too, and both my wife and I can cook. I grew up hunting and can skin and process my own harvest animals and fish. My wife and I know how to make jelly and jam. We both can sew, but I am the only one who can truly iron something the way it is supposed to be done - this comes from growing up in a military household. You didn't leave our house when I was a kid without being pressed and polished. Because of this, it doesn't even seem like a big deal to me to iron something. I can also do carpentry and finish work, along with just about every part of general framing/construction for barns, buildings, and houses.

I learned all of this from either my parents, or my grandparents. Although we were a military family, my grandparents were farmers on one side and lumberjacks (seriously) on the other. We spent all of our free days and vacations with them. I got to spend summers with them, too. They taught me a ton of useful skills, starting with how to make butter when I was five.

I have worked diligently to teach my son as much as I can so that these will be skills he carries, too. We allow him to have an xBox, but we limit the time on it severely and make him spend time learning useful life skills, too.

I think what happened - to answer your question - was that parents have stopped, or diminished, the effort of passing these skills down to their children. The schools helped, but the real knowledge came from our families and neighbors teaching us these things.
2012-12-28 11:26 AM
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These are basic life skills, and there are so many more. I can do limited sewing, buttons, patching, & quick repairs. Cooking, check. We owned a diner for 10 years. How about balance a check book? Understand a bank statement? Pay bills? Shop in an efficient and fiscally intelligent nature?

There are a ton of life skills that seem to be disappearing. There is not a class in HS, nor should there be, for this. It was my job as a father to make sure my kids got it. And, I think for the most part, they do.

 

2012-12-28 11:30 AM
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sulross - 2012-12-29 4:06 AMWe raise a garden, too, and both my wife and I can cook. I grew up hunting and can skin and process my own harvest animals and fish. My wife and I know how to make jelly and jam. We both can sew, but I am the only one who can truly iron something the way it is supposed to be done - this comes from growing up in a military household. You didn't leave our house when I was a kid without being pressed and polished. Because of this, it doesn't even seem like a big deal to me to iron something. I can also do carpentry and finish work, along with just about every part of general framing/construction for barns, buildings, and houses. I learned all of this from either my parents, or my grandparents. Although we were a military family, my grandparents were farmers on one side and lumberjacks (seriously) on the other. We spent all of our free days and vacations with them. I got to spend summers with them, too. They taught me a ton of useful skills, starting with how to make butter when I was five.I have worked diligently to teach my son as much as I can so that these will be skills he carries, too. We allow him to have an xBox, but we limit the time on it severely and make him spend time learning useful life skills, too. I think what happened - to answer your question - was that parents have stopped, or diminished, the effort of passing these skills down to their children. The schools helped, but the real knowledge came from our families and neighbors teaching us these things.
I learnt neither sewing nor to cook from my parents. I learnt to cook at school which piqued my interest. My daughter loves to cook because she watches so many cooking shows with me. If these skills were diminishing would there be a plethora of cooking shows and such on tv?
2012-12-28 11:34 AM
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I can cook and sew, but my wife can not. (her words not mine.) I am currently teaching my daughter how to cook.

When my daughter had home-ec she got looks of amazements when she said that she could make pancakes.

IMO I find that many women don't want to learn these things just so they dont get stuck with doing them.

2012-12-28 11:37 AM
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scorpio516 - 2012-12-28 9:35 AM

Yes and yes.  I can cook better than my wife, but she can sew better than I.

My big project last winter was an underquilt for my hiking hammock.  This winter, I'm making a backpack and a top quilt.  I don't do clothes though.

A backpack? I'm impressed! Do you have a heavy-duty machine to get through the strapping and hold securely?

I've made a few quilts for beds and walls (hand sewn topstitching), but I hadn't thought about doing the underquilt idea for my hammock. I haven't done winter camping in a few years - the last time I did, I brought the dogs and they kept my tent toasty warm. Then they got too old to take out for adventures like that.

Actually a very basic Singer.  I'm talking a very lightweight backpack (12 oz for 4400 cu in) thats mostly ripstop nylon and some Oxford cloth - Oxford is 330D weight, it's only 3x heavier than ripstop.

Here's the UQ, took probably 4 hours to make, 90% spent pinning the damn baffles:



2012-12-28 11:42 AM
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mr2tony - 2012-12-28 11:30 AM I'm a man. Men don't cook or sew. That's women's work. I shoot things and drive a big truck with balls hanging off the back. Because I'm a man. And that's what men do.

So what you're saying is not being able to take care of yourself makes you a real man. Did you get permission to say this before posting?

2012-12-28 11:51 AM
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I can cook though I prefer not to if I don't have to.

I can sew well enough to fix and hem things but not really well enough to make things look pretty.

I can bake and I do enjoy it and I make killer apple butter if I do say so myself.

I can also crochet and with some practice knit.

2012-12-28 11:54 AM
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blueyedbikergirl - 2012-12-28 9:55 AM

While I guess I can cook without killing anyone, I hate it.  I've also had the fire department called to the apartment twice when I've tried to cook.  However, I really enjoy baking and I'm pretty good at it.. for the safety of everyone involved, I'll stick to baking.

As for sewing, I too took home ec in high school and learned how to make an apron complete with pockets and embroidery - but those skills were forgotten long ago.  Now I'm fine with buttons, small repairs and hemming items of clothing. 

Thankfully the hubby likes to cook and makes really good meals! 



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2012-12-28 11:55 AM
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mr2tony - 2012-12-28 11:54 AM
blueyedbikergirl - 2012-12-28 9:55 AM

While I guess I can cook without killing anyone, I hate it.  I've also had the fire department called to the apartment twice when I've tried to cook.  However, I really enjoy baking and I'm pretty good at it.. for the safety of everyone involved, I'll stick to baking.

As for sewing, I too took home ec in high school and learned how to make an apron complete with pockets and embroidery - but those skills were forgotten long ago.  Now I'm fine with buttons, small repairs and hemming items of clothing. 

Thankfully the hubby likes to cook and makes really good meals! 

SHHHH! Don't tell the guyyyys!

 

I am sure he makes a lovely wife

2012-12-28 12:22 PM
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jobaxas - 2012-12-28 11:30 AM

sulross - 2012-12-29 4:06 AMWe raise a garden, too, and both my wife and I can cook. I grew up hunting and can skin and process my own harvest animals and fish. My wife and I know how to make jelly and jam. We both can sew, but I am the only one who can truly iron something the way it is supposed to be done - this comes from growing up in a military household. You didn't leave our house when I was a kid without being pressed and polished. Because of this, it doesn't even seem like a big deal to me to iron something. I can also do carpentry and finish work, along with just about every part of general framing/construction for barns, buildings, and houses. I learned all of this from either my parents, or my grandparents. Although we were a military family, my grandparents were farmers on one side and lumberjacks (seriously) on the other. We spent all of our free days and vacations with them. I got to spend summers with them, too. They taught me a ton of useful skills, starting with how to make butter when I was five.I have worked diligently to teach my son as much as I can so that these will be skills he carries, too. We allow him to have an xBox, but we limit the time on it severely and make him spend time learning useful life skills, too. I think what happened - to answer your question - was that parents have stopped, or diminished, the effort of passing these skills down to their children. The schools helped, but the real knowledge came from our families and neighbors teaching us these things.
I learnt neither sewing nor to cook from my parents. I learnt to cook at school which piqued my interest. My daughter loves to cook because she watches so many cooking shows with me. If these skills were diminishing would there be a plethora of cooking shows and such on tv?


I don't think the fact that there is a cooking channel, or plethora of cooking shows, means that these skills haven't diminished. There are also channels dedicated to hunting, fishing, hot rod racing, and other niche interests, but how many people truly still know how to process game, rebuild an engine, or bake from scratch - even after watching these shows. I agree that these shows help build interest for some people, but I don't feel the fact that the shows exist makes them a barometer that shows us that we have kept the basic skills that most Americans had before the television and computer hit the scene.

I have taught young people for many years, and I will state from experience that the vast majority of them don't have these basic life skills - including the ones brought up earlier such as balancing a check book, maintaining a budget in life, etc...

If you want to know the truth, I think most of our young people are much more highly influenced by MTV shows and reality shows than they are by cooking shows. I am glad to see that you and your daughter share this interest and that the cooking shows give you a way to expand your knowledge and spend time together. But, I think the cooking show is less important than the fact that YOU are involved in cooking and she sees that ... the shows are just a bonus.


2012-12-28 1:07 PM
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sulross - 2012-12-28 1:22 PM
jobaxas - 2012-12-28 11:30 AM
sulross - 2012-12-29 4:06 AMWe raise a garden, too, and both my wife and I can cook. I grew up hunting and can skin and process my own harvest animals and fish. My wife and I know how to make jelly and jam. We both can sew, but I am the only one who can truly iron something the way it is supposed to be done - this comes from growing up in a military household. You didn't leave our house when I was a kid without being pressed and polished. Because of this, it doesn't even seem like a big deal to me to iron something. I can also do carpentry and finish work, along with just about every part of general framing/construction for barns, buildings, and houses. I learned all of this from either my parents, or my grandparents. Although we were a military family, my grandparents were farmers on one side and lumberjacks (seriously) on the other. We spent all of our free days and vacations with them. I got to spend summers with them, too. They taught me a ton of useful skills, starting with how to make butter when I was five.I have worked diligently to teach my son as much as I can so that these will be skills he carries, too. We allow him to have an xBox, but we limit the time on it severely and make him spend time learning useful life skills, too. I think what happened - to answer your question - was that parents have stopped, or diminished, the effort of passing these skills down to their children. The schools helped, but the real knowledge came from our families and neighbors teaching us these things.
I learnt neither sewing nor to cook from my parents. I learnt to cook at school which piqued my interest. My daughter loves to cook because she watches so many cooking shows with me. If these skills were diminishing would there be a plethora of cooking shows and such on tv?
I don't think the fact that there is a cooking channel, or plethora of cooking shows, means that these skills haven't diminished. There are also channels dedicated to hunting, fishing, hot rod racing, and other niche interests, but how many people truly still know how to process game, rebuild an engine, or bake from scratch - even after watching these shows. I agree that these shows help build interest for some people, but I don't feel the fact that the shows exist makes them a barometer that shows us that we have kept the basic skills that most Americans had before the television and computer hit the scene. I have taught young people for many years, and I will state from experience that the vast majority of them don't have these basic life skills - including the ones brought up earlier such as balancing a check book, maintaining a budget in life, etc... If you want to know the truth, I think most of our young people are much more highly influenced by MTV shows and reality shows than they are by cooking shows. I am glad to see that you and your daughter share this interest and that the cooking shows give you a way to expand your knowledge and spend time together. But, I think the cooking show is less important than the fact that YOU are involved in cooking and she sees that ... the shows are just a bonus.

x2 - plus, here's another way to look at it: are there a lot of shows about things that everyone can do? Like, where is the "laundry channel"; or the "competitive lawn mowing show"? They don't exist, because no one wants to watch people doing things they can do themselves, especially if those things are essentially chores. Cooking, sewing - they are chores. They can be fun, they can be creative, but I think the reason people are watching cooking shows and things like "project runway" is that a lot of people no longer have those skill sets, so it's like magic. 

2012-12-28 1:26 PM
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sulross - 2012-12-29 5:22 AM
jobaxas - 2012-12-28 11:30 AM
sulross - 2012-12-29 4:06 AMWe raise a garden, too, and both my wife and I can cook. I grew up hunting and can skin and process my own harvest animals and fish. My wife and I know how to make jelly and jam. We both can sew, but I am the only one who can truly iron something the way it is supposed to be done - this comes from growing up in a military household. You didn't leave our house when I was a kid without being pressed and polished. Because of this, it doesn't even seem like a big deal to me to iron something. I can also do carpentry and finish work, along with just about every part of general framing/construction for barns, buildings, and houses. I learned all of this from either my parents, or my grandparents. Although we were a military family, my grandparents were farmers on one side and lumberjacks (seriously) on the other. We spent all of our free days and vacations with them. I got to spend summers with them, too. They taught me a ton of useful skills, starting with how to make butter when I was five.I have worked diligently to teach my son as much as I can so that these will be skills he carries, too. We allow him to have an xBox, but we limit the time on it severely and make him spend time learning useful life skills, too. I think what happened - to answer your question - was that parents have stopped, or diminished, the effort of passing these skills down to their children. The schools helped, but the real knowledge came from our families and neighbors teaching us these things.
I learnt neither sewing nor to cook from my parents. I learnt to cook at school which piqued my interest. My daughter loves to cook because she watches so many cooking shows with me. If these skills were diminishing would there be a plethora of cooking shows and such on tv?
I don't think the fact that there is a cooking channel, or plethora of cooking shows, means that these skills haven't diminished. There are also channels dedicated to hunting, fishing, hot rod racing, and other niche interests, but how many people truly still know how to process game, rebuild an engine, or bake from scratch - even after watching these shows. I agree that these shows help build interest for some people, but I don't feel the fact that the shows exist makes them a barometer that shows us that we have kept the basic skills that most Americans had before the television and computer hit the scene.I have taught young people for many years, and I will state from experience that the vast majority of them don't have these basic life skills - including the ones brought up earlier such as balancing a check book, maintaining a budget in life, etc...If you want to know the truth, I think most of our young people are much more highly influenced by MTV shows and reality shows than they are by cooking shows. I am glad to see that you and your daughter share this interest and that the cooking shows give you a way to expand your knowledge and spend time together. But, I think the cooking show is less important than the fact that YOU are involved in cooking and she sees that ... the shows are just a bonus.
ah well we don't have cable we are limited to the shoes on Australian tv such as Jamie Oliver etc. certainly no cooking channels. No MTV nor any music channels and radio only what I listen to generally independent Australian music etc. we have a computer and the only games she plays are cooking ones. And as yet no video games I prefer she swims in the pool runs with me or goes to her gymnastics or tri club training. Me and DH hate reality shows so none of those really. She sews at school. Her dad could teach her to skin a rabbit or kill and pluck a chicken but she would turn vegetarian in a heartbeat if she saw that! I can't speak for US kids only the ones I'm exposed to at her school - she's seven.
2012-12-28 1:33 PM
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BigRun - 2012-12-28 11:34 AM

IMO I find that many women don't want to learn these things just so they dont get stuck with doing them.

I think that's true for anyone who doesn't bother to learn to do something - regardless of gender.

2012-12-28 1:35 PM
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Jobaxas - your vegetarian comment made me laugh What the heck time is it down there, anyway? I thought you guys were about 13 hours ahead of us - You are a NIGHT OWL!!! I can't begin to hang with the late night hours any more!
2012-12-28 1:48 PM
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I love the cooking topic.....mostly b/c I love to eat, LOL

I wish I was savvy enough to find it, but the NY Times had an article about how large kitchens have grown, and how many gadgets Americans buy but how little cooking  actually goes on, vs. turn of the century counterparts.  I think the article had some figure of in 1920, there was about 20-30 hours of cooking a week in the kitchen, vs. about 5-7 in today's world!!

I actually am fairly proud to say I'm a good cook (thanks in large measure to my dearly departed uncle who taught me everything, including you don't need fancy gadgets!) and I cook in the tiniest of kitchens ever! (circa 1911 - w. almost no counterspace)

As for sewing, well, that goes in the category with taxes, I am forced to hire a tailor and an accountant. <sigh>
 



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jobaxas - 2012-12-28 7:11 AM At high school we had domestic science and needlework for about 4 years I loved the cooking and still love to cook - lucky coz we would starve left to my husband! Sewing just eludes me my best efforts are a disaster! I try but much like riding a bike I don't get it.

Me too, except the bike thing Wink

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sulross - 2012-12-29 6:35 AMJobaxas - your vegetarian comment made me laugh What the heck time is it down there, anyway? I thought you guys were about 13 hours ahead of us - You are a NIGHT OWL!!! I can't begin to hang with the late night hours any more!
visiting the family in the UK who still can't cook!!
2012-12-28 2:39 PM
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sulross - 2012-12-28 1:22 PM
jobaxas - 2012-12-28 11:30 AM
sulross - 2012-12-29 4:06 AMWe raise a garden, too, and both my wife and I can cook. I grew up hunting and can skin and process my own harvest animals and fish. My wife and I know how to make jelly and jam. We both can sew, but I am the only one who can truly iron something the way it is supposed to be done - this comes from growing up in a military household. You didn't leave our house when I was a kid without being pressed and polished. Because of this, it doesn't even seem like a big deal to me to iron something. I can also do carpentry and finish work, along with just about every part of general framing/construction for barns, buildings, and houses. I learned all of this from either my parents, or my grandparents. Although we were a military family, my grandparents were farmers on one side and lumberjacks (seriously) on the other. We spent all of our free days and vacations with them. I got to spend summers with them, too. They taught me a ton of useful skills, starting with how to make butter when I was five.I have worked diligently to teach my son as much as I can so that these will be skills he carries, too. We allow him to have an xBox, but we limit the time on it severely and make him spend time learning useful life skills, too. I think what happened - to answer your question - was that parents have stopped, or diminished, the effort of passing these skills down to their children. The schools helped, but the real knowledge came from our families and neighbors teaching us these things.
I learnt neither sewing nor to cook from my parents. I learnt to cook at school which piqued my interest. My daughter loves to cook because she watches so many cooking shows with me. If these skills were diminishing would there be a plethora of cooking shows and such on tv?
I don't think the fact that there is a cooking channel, or plethora of cooking shows, means that these skills haven't diminished. There are also channels dedicated to hunting, fishing, hot rod racing, and other niche interests, but how many people truly still know how to process game, rebuild an engine, or bake from scratch - even after watching these shows. I agree that these shows help build interest for some people, but I don't feel the fact that the shows exist makes them a barometer that shows us that we have kept the basic skills that most Americans had before the television and computer hit the scene. I have taught young people for many years, and I will state from experience that the vast majority of them don't have these basic life skills - including the ones brought up earlier such as balancing a check book, maintaining a budget in life, etc... If you want to know the truth, I think most of our young people are much more highly influenced by MTV shows and reality shows than they are by cooking shows. I am glad to see that you and your daughter share this interest and that the cooking shows give you a way to expand your knowledge and spend time together. But, I think the cooking show is less important than the fact that YOU are involved in cooking and she sees that ... the shows are just a bonus.

x2 - plus, here's another way to look at it: are there a lot of shows about things that everyone can do? Like, where is the "laundry channel"; or the "competitive lawn mowing show"? They don't exist, because no one wants to watch people doing things they can do themselves, especially if those things are essentially chores. Cooking, sewing - they are chores. They can be fun, they can be creative, but I think the reason people are watching cooking shows and things like "project runway" is that a lot of people no longer have those skill sets, so it's like magic. 

 

Hmmmm, this needs to be made. Must be a push mower, can't be self propelled. I think you hit onto something.

2012-12-28 3:16 PM
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trigal38 - 2012-12-28 8:13 AM

This reminds me, when I was little my mother and older sister stayed up late several nights in a row before Christmas to sew my other sister and I a whole box full of Barbie Doll clothes. I can't even imagine the fine motor nightmare of sewing Barbie clothes!!

Also, I said my Mom taught me to cook but my Dad did too. He liked baking bread and used to get us involved in that whole process. I remember thinking that was really fun.

This thread totally made me think of my mom doing this for me for Christmas when I was 8...wedding gown and all.

Sadly, I HATE sewing. My grandma tried to teach me when I was 11. The skirt was hideously deformed. And as I was rethreading the needle, going too fast/too slow, weaving left and right...all I really wanted to do was catch frogs/tadpoles and crawdads out in the irrigation ditches.

I can follow a recipe and would probably be more adventurous if my husband and son didn't like very simple food. Can't really complain though... it does make it easier to cook/bake with the kids this way.

2012-12-28 3:19 PM
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Yes, I can cook and sew.  We grew up helping mom cook (peeling potatoes, stirring, eventually "graduating" to full-blown cooking).  As a scout, if I wanted a patch sewn onto my uniform, mom pointed me to the sewing supplies.  In high school, she taught me how to take in a shirt by pulling in the side seams or by adding darts. 

True story:  In 1982, I was at the Detroit airport about ready to board the plane to Oslo for the summer.  I pulled the button off my shirt.  No big deal, once I got on the plane, I pulled out the sewing kit and reattached the button much to the surprise of the girl sitting in the row ahead of me (she hadn't seen a male sew, and was equally surprised that I had the stuff to fix my shirt with me). 



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scorpio516 - 2012-12-28 11:37 AM
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scorpio516 - 2012-12-28 9:35 AM

Actually a very basic Singer.  I'm talking a very lightweight backpack (12 oz for 4400 cu in) thats mostly ripstop nylon and some Oxford cloth - Oxford is 330D weight, it's only 3x heavier than ripstop.

Here's the UQ, took probably 4 hours to make, 90% spent pinning the damn baffles:

 

That looks great. I sew some outdoor stuff but havent taken on anything quite so adventurous. I have sewn a sleeping bag liner,  rope throw bags, a silnylon tarp and a lot of ditty bags. For cooking I can follow a recipe and quite often make a nice chicken dinner for Sunday. Nothing fancy in either camp but I can get the job done.

2012-12-28 5:07 PM
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Yes, sadly it is a lost art.  Schools don't teach any form of home -ec as I knew it in school......the focus is on college prep so we have these kids going off into reality not knowing how to do much for practical skills.  

I taught my kids the basics of sewing and cook with them, but I can see that one of them will not survive well on her own.

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Yes, but very badly, but if the apacolypse came, it would make do in a pinch.
2012-12-28 5:20 PM
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I can cook reasonably well and can put  more than a few meals together.  One day I would like to take cooking lessons.  I seem to gravitate to French cooking so taking a class or two in Paris would be nice.

I don't have the fine motor skills in my hands anymore so any sewing I have to do is minimal and under protest.

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