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 2014-03-05 4:52 PM in reply to: jlshafer |
Champion  19812     MA |  Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam??Originally posted by jlshafer Originally posted by RedCorvette I disagree. If a coach is going to spend their time, and Tridot wants feedback/results (for future marketing of their product) then they want folks to take the program seriously. If the trainee does not have any 'skin in the game' upfront, they are simply not going to get folks follow their program with the same level of effort / dedication. If I have money on the line, and need to complete X number of workouts, etc., I'm going to be a lot less likely to do it half rear-ended. Tridot is doing there part, but in order for the athlete to progress/improve, the athlete has to do theirs...and $$ is a great motivator. Originally posted by InnerAthlete You can tell just from the syntax of Boo's response that it's a scam. Too bad. To be fair, I have heard some good things about TriDot's coaching programs in the past. But a business model that requires upfront payments for "free" services does prompt concerns, especially with all the stuff going on these days. Mark
I understand they want clients to be invested but coach could have written that in his email instead of his brief off putting email. |
| 2014-03-05 6:11 PM in reply to: JZig |
New user 23 Concord, NC | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by JZig Is anyone even sure that "Boo" is actually with the Tridot coaching system, and not just some Nigerian scammer spoofing them? Yes, Coach Boo is legit |
| 2014-03-05 6:23 PM in reply to: gotbitten |
Champion 7036 Sarasota, FL | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by gotbittenresponse: we literally have thousands of athletes who are very excited to participate and wouldn't be able to without this program, but we are now declining you as it sounds you are not as excited as the thousands that are overwhelmingly excited. Reminds me of the line from "A Few Good Men": "I strenuously object?" Is that how it works? Hm? "Objection." "Overruled." "Oh, no, no, no. No, I STRENUOUSLY object." "Oh. Well, if you strenuously object then I should take some time to reconsider."
Mark |
| 2014-03-05 6:56 PM in reply to: RedCorvette |
Pro 5123 Canandaigua NY | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? It comes across as a scam because instead of stating that if you pay for 3 months training and complete the training, give us feed back and up load your workouts we will refund your payments it was promoted as free coaching. It may have been a good idea, but it certainly wasn't marketed properly. The Nigerian investment is a pretty good comparison. |
| 2014-03-05 6:57 PM in reply to: jlshafer |
Pro 5123 Canandaigua NY | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by jlshafer Originally posted by JZig Is anyone even sure that "Boo" is actually with the Tridot coaching system, and not just some Nigerian scammer spoofing them? Yes, Coach Boo is legit You wouldn't be Boo would you? |
| 2014-03-05 6:59 PM in reply to: kenj |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Bo knows Boo? |
| 2014-03-05 7:15 PM in reply to: gotbitten |
| Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Could be a scam, but as long as they are accepting CC payment, then you shouldn't be liable if it's a scam. Now if they are asking for a check, cash, bank account info, SSN, etc...then yeah...no way.
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| 2014-03-05 7:29 PM in reply to: Jason N |
Pro 5169 Burbs | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? If TriDot isn't a scam, they have crappy marketing. If a reader/ website of triathletes have a 2+ page discussion about whether it is or is not legitimate... probably best to re think things. |
| 2014-03-05 8:30 PM in reply to: Left Brain |
Member 1293 Pearland,Tx | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by Left Brain Bo knows Boo? Originally posted by Left Brain "Nigerian coaching scam" (lol.gif) Attachments ---------------- lol.gif (130KB - 11 downloads) |
| 2014-03-05 8:32 PM in reply to: 0 |
Coach 9167 Stairway to Seven | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by gotbitten I was spammed with a bunch of emails about the TriDot coaching system - free coaching if you are selected to be part of the Free For Feedback program. I sent them my info, and surprise, I was selected! of course, only a few people were selected and they "may never do it again." I receive an email from "Coach Boo", the TriDot founder, telling me that this great free deal just requires me to sign up, pay the $7 signup fee, the $100 initiation fee, and pay for two months at $77 per month. grand total, $261. After I complete the workouts and give them feedback, then they refund the $261. if you have questions, please do email Coach Boo. so I email good old Boo, one sentence, in its entirety, "so let me get this straight, I pay $261 and then I will get it free?" response: we literally have thousands of athletes who are very excited to participate and wouldn't be able to without this program, but we are now declining you as it sounds you are not as excited as the thousands that are overwhelmingly excited. my thought: if you really are doing this just to get feedback, why do you need to charge $261? I was one of only a very select number, yet the thousands you have selected are "very" excited? My Question: Has anyone ever given these people money, and when it came time for the refund, what was the excuse for not giving the refund? It's unfortunate that your exchange with Jeff ... or more likely someone who was working with him fielding emails ... led to this 2 page thread accusing tridot of being a scam. You don't have to like their marketing, and in fact you can hate it. But what you are making is a false statement that is potentially damaging to their reputation. At worst you were the recipient of a) emails you didn't want and b) a poor customer service reply. Now you are accusing them of not giving refunds. I think that is very distasteful. Anyway, here is my original post from a year ago to a similar thread: ===== i first became acquainted with Jeff last spring through one if my swimmers. the athlete had been receiving coaching with tridot and asked me to do his swimming program. during the 6 months we worked together i saw many of his workouts from tridot via training peaks as i was the primary coach on training peaks. he entered his workouts there to log training. i saw all of his race results. many podium positions for his age group. this athletes times continued to improve all season, the plan addressed his biggest weaknesses, there was nothing i saw that raised any red flags at all. he had regular communication with his coach and trained with her routinely...and coaches her in swimming! based on what i saw in his training peaks workouts and his race results i think its a great program. Ive spoken with Jeff on the phone several times since then and i think his understanding if physiology and training is excellent. lots of great testimonials on his site ===== Finally, one of the athletes I am currently coaching, used TriDot last year to train for his half iron A race, and PR'd the race and he had no complaints. Two of my friends (the athlete I posted about in the paragraph above) and another friend since then, are both coaching for TriDot. FWIW, I have no financial incentive for endorsing Jeff or referring anyone to his program. It is not a scam, and yes they will give you a refund. Edited by AdventureBear 2014-03-05 8:37 PM |
| 2014-03-05 8:38 PM in reply to: AdventureBear |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by AdventureBear Originally posted by gotbitten I was spammed with a bunch of emails about the TriDot coaching system - free coaching if you are selected to be part of the Free For Feedback program. I sent them my info, and surprise, I was selected! of course, only a few people were selected and they "may never do it again." I receive an email from "Coach Boo", the TriDot founder, telling me that this great free deal just requires me to sign up, pay the $7 signup fee, the $100 initiation fee, and pay for two months at $77 per month. grand total, $261. After I complete the workouts and give them feedback, then they refund the $261. if you have questions, please do email Coach Boo. so I email good old Boo, one sentence, in its entirety, "so let me get this straight, I pay $261 and then I will get it free?" response: we literally have thousands of athletes who are very excited to participate and wouldn't be able to without this program, but we are now declining you as it sounds you are not as excited as the thousands that are overwhelmingly excited. my thought: if you really are doing this just to get feedback, why do you need to charge $261? I was one of only a very select number, yet the thousands you have selected are "very" excited? My Question: Has anyone ever given these people money, and when it came time for the refund, what was the excuse for not giving the refund? It's unfortunate that your exchange with Jeff ... or more likely someone who was working with him fielding emails ... led to this 2 page thread accusing tridot of being a scam. You don't have to like their marketing, and in fact you can hate it. But what you are making is a false statement that is potentially damaging to their reputation. At worst you were the recipient of a) emails you didn't want and b) a poor customer service reply. Now you are accusing them of not giving refunds. I think that is very distasteful. Anyway, here is my original post from a year ago to a similar thread: ===== i first became acquainted with Jeff last spring through one if my swimmers. the athlete had been receiving coaching with tridot and asked me to do his swimming program. during the 6 months we worked together i saw many of his workouts from tridot via training peaks as i was the primary coach on training peaks. he entered his workouts there to log training. i saw all of his race results. many podium positions for his age group. this athletes times continued to improve all season, the plan addressed his biggest weaknesses, there was nothing i saw that raised any red flags at all. he had regular communication with his coach and trained with her routinely...and coaches her in swimming! based on what i saw in his training peaks workouts and his race results i think its a great program. Ive spoken with Jeff on the phone several times since then and i think his understanding if physiology and training is excellent. lots of great testimonials on his site ===== Finally, one of the athletes I am currently coaching, used TriDot last year to train for his half iron A race, and PR'd the race and he had no complaints. Two of my friends (the athlete I posted about in the paragraph above) and another friend since then, are both coaching for TriDot. FWIW, I have no financial incentive for endorsing Jeff or referring anyone to his program. It is not a scam, and yes they will give you a refund. Woah............where is the false statement? |
| 2014-03-05 8:45 PM in reply to: 0 |
Coach 9167 Stairway to Seven | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by Left Brain Woah............where is the false statement? when it came time for the refund, what was the excuse for not giving the refund? You can tell just from the syntax of Boo's response that it's a scam. Too bad. Edited by AdventureBear 2014-03-05 8:48 PM |
| 2014-03-05 8:49 PM in reply to: 0 |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by AdventureBear Originally posted by Left Brain Woah............where is the false statement? when it came time for the refund, what was the excuse for not giving the refund?
Surely could have been worded better....but it's a question, not a false statement. In light of the response he got from his e-mail, I'd say it's certainly a fair question. And I'd also agree that a reasonable person could assume "scam" based on that response. Not guilty. Edited by Left Brain 2014-03-05 8:51 PM |
| 2014-03-05 8:51 PM in reply to: 0 |
| Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by AdventureBear Originally posted by gotbitten I was spammed with a bunch of emails about the TriDot coaching system - free coaching if you are selected to be part of the Free For Feedback program. I sent them my info, and surprise, I was selected! of course, only a few people were selected and they "may never do it again." I receive an email from "Coach Boo", the TriDot founder, telling me that this great free deal just requires me to sign up, pay the $7 signup fee, the $100 initiation fee, and pay for two months at $77 per month. grand total, $261. After I complete the workouts and give them feedback, then they refund the $261. if you have questions, please do email Coach Boo. so I email good old Boo, one sentence, in its entirety, "so let me get this straight, I pay $261 and then I will get it free?" response: we literally have thousands of athletes who are very excited to participate and wouldn't be able to without this program, but we are now declining you as it sounds you are not as excited as the thousands that are overwhelmingly excited. my thought: if you really are doing this just to get feedback, why do you need to charge $261? I was one of only a very select number, yet the thousands you have selected are "very" excited? My Question: Has anyone ever given these people money, and when it came time for the refund, what was the excuse for not giving the refund? It's unfortunate that your exchange with Jeff ... or more likely someone who was working with him fielding emails ... led to this 2 page thread accusing tridot of being a scam. You don't have to like their marketing, and in fact you can hate it. But what you are making is a false statement that is potentially damaging to their reputation. At worst you were the recipient of a) emails you didn't want and b) a poor customer service reply. Now you are accusing them of not giving refunds. I think that is very distasteful. Anyway, here is my original post from a year ago to a similar thread: ===== i first became acquainted with Jeff last spring through one if my swimmers. the athlete had been receiving coaching with tridot and asked me to do his swimming program. during the 6 months we worked together i saw many of his workouts from tridot via training peaks as i was the primary coach on training peaks. he entered his workouts there to log training. i saw all of his race results. many podium positions for his age group. this athletes times continued to improve all season, the plan addressed his biggest weaknesses, there was nothing i saw that raised any red flags at all. he had regular communication with his coach and trained with her routinely...and coaches her in swimming! based on what i saw in his training peaks workouts and his race results i think its a great program. Ive spoken with Jeff on the phone several times since then and i think his understanding if physiology and training is excellent. lots of great testimonials on his site ===== Finally, one of the athletes I am currently coaching, used TriDot last year to train for his half iron A race, and PR'd the race and he had no complaints. Two of my friends (the athlete I posted about in the paragraph above) and another friend since then, are both coaching for TriDot. FWIW, I have no financial incentive for endorsing Jeff or referring anyone to his program. It is not a scam, and yes they will give you a refund. Woah............where is the false statement? I think the OP posted something about "Nigerian Coaching Scam"...oh...wait... Edited by Jason N 2014-03-05 8:51 PM |
| 2014-03-05 8:51 PM in reply to: Left Brain |
Coach 9167 Stairway to Seven | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by AdventureBear Originally posted by Left Brain Woah............where is the false statement? when it came time for the refund, what was the excuse for not giving the refund?
Surely could have been worded better....but it's a question, not a false statement. In light of the response he got from his e-mail, I'd say it's certainly a fair question. Asking the question as if it's a fact that someone was not refunded. Really poor taste. It's fine to rant about things you don't like. It's not fine to slander and I am pretty sure it's actually a crime. |
| 2014-03-05 8:52 PM in reply to: 0 |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by Jason N Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by AdventureBear Originally posted by gotbitten I was spammed with a bunch of emails about the TriDot coaching system - free coaching if you are selected to be part of the Free For Feedback program. I sent them my info, and surprise, I was selected! of course, only a few people were selected and they "may never do it again." I receive an email from "Coach Boo", the TriDot founder, telling me that this great free deal just requires me to sign up, pay the $7 signup fee, the $100 initiation fee, and pay for two months at $77 per month. grand total, $261. After I complete the workouts and give them feedback, then they refund the $261. if you have questions, please do email Coach Boo. so I email good old Boo, one sentence, in its entirety, "so let me get this straight, I pay $261 and then I will get it free?" response: we literally have thousands of athletes who are very excited to participate and wouldn't be able to without this program, but we are now declining you as it sounds you are not as excited as the thousands that are overwhelmingly excited. my thought: if you really are doing this just to get feedback, why do you need to charge $261? I was one of only a very select number, yet the thousands you have selected are "very" excited? My Question: Has anyone ever given these people money, and when it came time for the refund, what was the excuse for not giving the refund? It's unfortunate that your exchange with Jeff ... or more likely someone who was working with him fielding emails ... led to this 2 page thread accusing tridot of being a scam. You don't have to like their marketing, and in fact you can hate it. But what you are making is a false statement that is potentially damaging to their reputation. At worst you were the recipient of a) emails you didn't want and b) a poor customer service reply. Now you are accusing them of not giving refunds. I think that is very distasteful. Anyway, here is my original post from a year ago to a similar thread: ===== i first became acquainted with Jeff last spring through one if my swimmers. the athlete had been receiving coaching with tridot and asked me to do his swimming program. during the 6 months we worked together i saw many of his workouts from tridot via training peaks as i was the primary coach on training peaks. he entered his workouts there to log training. i saw all of his race results. many podium positions for his age group. this athletes times continued to improve all season, the plan addressed his biggest weaknesses, there was nothing i saw that raised any red flags at all. he had regular communication with his coach and trained with her routinely...and coaches her in swimming! based on what i saw in his training peaks workouts and his race results i think its a great program. Ive spoken with Jeff on the phone several times since then and i think his understanding if physiology and training is excellent. lots of great testimonials on his site ===== Finally, one of the athletes I am currently coaching, used TriDot last year to train for his half iron A race, and PR'd the race and he had no complaints. Two of my friends (the athlete I posted about in the paragraph above) and another friend since then, are both coaching for TriDot. FWIW, I have no financial incentive for endorsing Jeff or referring anyone to his program. It is not a scam, and yes they will give you a refund. Woah............where is the false statement? I think the OP posted something about "Nigerian Coaching Scam"...oh...wait... Yeah, that was me.......and based on the wording, and my prior experience with Nigerian scams and the wording of those scams....I'm good with it. Spam me with an e-mail like that and watch what happens. LOL Bo? Is that you? Edited by Left Brain 2014-03-05 8:57 PM |
| 2014-03-05 8:55 PM in reply to: 0 |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by AdventureBear Originally posted by Left Brain Asking the question as if it's a fact that someone was not refunded. Really poor taste. It's fine to rant about things you don't like. It's not fine to slander and I am pretty sure it's actually a crime. Originally posted by AdventureBear Originally posted by Left Brain Woah............where is the false statement? when it came time for the refund, what was the excuse for not giving the refund?
Surely could have been worded better....but it's a question, not a false statement. In light of the response he got from his e-mail, I'd say it's certainly a fair question. No, actually, it's not a criminal offense (crime). It can be adjudicated in civil court for damages......I wouldn't advise that based on the response the OP received and the fact that it was an unsolicited e-mail. The OP has a better case of Harassment then the sender does for any damages. LOL See, this is what happens when the headline of the day is "Teen Sues Parents" . hahahaha
Edited by Left Brain 2014-03-05 8:59 PM |
| 2014-03-05 8:59 PM in reply to: Left Brain |
Coach 9167 Stairway to Seven | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by Left Brain No, actually, it's not a criminal offense (crime). It can be adjudicated in civil court for damages......I wouldn't advise that based on the response the OP received.  Eh...so sue me for misusing the word.  |
| 2014-03-05 9:02 PM in reply to: AdventureBear |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by AdventureBear Originally posted by Left Brain No, actually, it's not a criminal offense (crime). It can be adjudicated in civil court for damages......I wouldn't advise that based on the response the OP received. Eh...so sue me for misusing the word. You know I wouldn't sue ya.....and you did good sticking up for a coach you know. THAT'S how it should work. No sense throwing around legal ramifications.... that's kind of silly, no? |
| 2014-03-05 9:04 PM in reply to: Left Brain |
Coach 9167 Stairway to Seven | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by Left Brain \> You know I wouldn't sue ya.....and you did good sticking up for a coach you know. THAT'S how it should work. No sense throwing around legal ramifications.... that's kind of silly, no? I'm not a lawyer, but I did stay at a holiday in...once...a long time ago. |
| 2014-03-05 9:16 PM in reply to: AdventureBear |
Master 1858 Salt Lake City | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by AdventureBear Originally posted by Left Brain \> You know I wouldn't sue ya.....and you did good sticking up for a coach you know. THAT'S how it should work. No sense throwing around legal ramifications.... that's kind of silly, no? I'm not a lawyer, but I did stay at a holiday in...once...a long time ago. And really... since it was written it might be more closely considered Libel instead of slander... |
| 2014-03-05 9:20 PM in reply to: JZig |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by JZig Originally posted by AdventureBear And really... since it was written it might be more closely considered Libel instead of slander... Originally posted by Left Brain \> I'm not a lawyer, but I did stay at a holiday in...once...a long time ago. You know I wouldn't sue ya.....and you did good sticking up for a coach you know. THAT'S how it should work. No sense throwing around legal ramifications.... that's kind of silly, no? Boo knows Libel? |
| 2014-03-05 9:38 PM in reply to: Left Brain |
Champion 7036 Sarasota, FL | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by JZig Originally posted by AdventureBear And really... since it was written it might be more closely considered Libel instead of slander... Originally posted by Left Brain \> I'm not a lawyer, but I did stay at a holiday in...once...a long time ago. You know I wouldn't sue ya.....and you did good sticking up for a coach you know. THAT'S how it should work. No sense throwing around legal ramifications.... that's kind of silly, no? Boo knows Libel? If nothing else, TriDot should be getting some pretty good feedback on what BT thinks about their marketing campaign. Unfortunately perception = reality. Just sayin' Mark |
| 2014-03-05 10:00 PM in reply to: Left Brain |
Member 1293 Pearland,Tx | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by AdventureBear Originally posted by Left Brain Asking the question as if it's a fact that someone was not refunded. Really poor taste. It's fine to rant about things you don't like. It's not fine to slander and I am pretty sure it's actually a crime. Originally posted by AdventureBear Originally posted by Left Brain Woah............where is the false statement? when it came time for the refund, what was the excuse for not giving the refund?
Surely could have been worded better....but it's a question, not a false statement. In light of the response he got from his e-mail, I'd say it's certainly a fair question. No, actually, it's not a criminal offense (crime). It can be adjudicated in civil court for damages......I wouldn't advise that based on the response the OP received and the fact that it was an unsolicited e-mail. The OP has a better case of Harassment then the sender does for any damages. LOL See, this is what happens when the headline of the day is "Teen Sues Parents" . hahahaha
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| 2014-03-05 10:09 PM in reply to: strykergt |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by strykergt Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by AdventureBear Originally posted by Left Brain Asking the question as if it's a fact that someone was not refunded. Really poor taste. It's fine to rant about things you don't like. It's not fine to slander and I am pretty sure it's actually a crime. Originally posted by AdventureBear Originally posted by Left Brain Woah............where is the false statement? when it came time for the refund, what was the excuse for not giving the refund?
Surely could have been worded better....but it's a question, not a false statement. In light of the response he got from his e-mail, I'd say it's certainly a fair question. No, actually, it's not a criminal offense (crime). It can be adjudicated in civil court for damages......I wouldn't advise that based on the response the OP received and the fact that it was an unsolicited e-mail. The OP has a better case of Harassment then the sender does for any damages. LOL See, this is what happens when the headline of the day is "Teen Sues Parents" . hahahaha
Bro....you need to send me some of those gifs.....I could be dangerous....and slanderous....and such. |
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