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Ha! And I thought she was shorter than that. I'm 5'4 but she must be like 5'10 or something

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!

Echoing everyone else; so sorry for this woman's family and that your sense of safety has been shattered.  Please be safe out there everyone.  Being aware of your surroundings is so important; and trust your gut.  If something feels wrong it probably is.  Don't worry about 'being silly'.

Originally posted by mtnbikerchk

Originally posted by cdban66

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Dude...I was at a gay (mostly men) club,  where 50% of them are dressed better than myself and the other 50% are in women's clothes dressed better than myself, surrounded by 12 of my friends.

Ok, most of that was a joke but my point is that things can happen anywhere. 

And although I am expressing my struggles with it all, mostly we can just be aware and cautious and keep doing what we love. The rest of the stuff -life- is unpredictable. 

I get it. 100%. Stuff happens and it often doesn't matter where, who, why, or when. It just happens. But as you stated, we CAN NOT let that stop us. Keep doing what you do.

As a husband and father of 2 girls, well, like a stated earlier, it all saddens me.

On the face of it - I agree that we can't let this stop what we do but in reality until they figure out who did this I'm not going to run over there in the dark and alone anymore. I probably will still run in my neighborhood (which is about 4 miles from the stabbing). I don't really know why but running away from the trail and closer to home somehow makes it feel safer. I will also probably skip the ipod for now too. A lot of the women around here are buddying up to run together instead of alone but so far it's kinda tough finding someone that matches my schedule and pace. I'm still working on it

I'm glad you are taking precautions and still doing your thing. We're having a conversation at work right now about this sort of thing. "Awareness" seems to be a standard talking point. 

How many of us send texts or phone call before and after a workout? TW insists on that from me, just so that she'll feel better about my bike riding. I understood her point before this whole discussion and even more so now.

Originally posted by cdban66

Originally posted by mtnbikerchk

Originally posted by cdban66

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Dude...I was at a gay (mostly men) club,  where 50% of them are dressed better than myself and the other 50% are in women's clothes dressed better than myself, surrounded by 12 of my friends.

Ok, most of that was a joke but my point is that things can happen anywhere. 

And although I am expressing my struggles with it all, mostly we can just be aware and cautious and keep doing what we love. The rest of the stuff -life- is unpredictable. 

I get it. 100%. Stuff happens and it often doesn't matter where, who, why, or when. It just happens. But as you stated, we CAN NOT let that stop us. Keep doing what you do.

As a husband and father of 2 girls, well, like a stated earlier, it all saddens me.

On the face of it - I agree that we can't let this stop what we do but in reality until they figure out who did this I'm not going to run over there in the dark and alone anymore. I probably will still run in my neighborhood (which is about 4 miles from the stabbing). I don't really know why but running away from the trail and closer to home somehow makes it feel safer. I will also probably skip the ipod for now too. A lot of the women around here are buddying up to run together instead of alone but so far it's kinda tough finding someone that matches my schedule and pace. I'm still working on it

I'm glad you are taking precautions and still doing your thing. We're having a conversation at work right now about this sort of thing. "Awareness" seems to be a standard talking point. 

How many of us send texts or phone call before and after a workout? TW insists on that from me, just so that she'll feel better about my bike riding. I understood her point before this whole discussion and even more so now.

I don't do that but I do make sure that DH knows when I left, the route I'm going and how long I expect to be gone.  I've also started always taking my phone and I always wear my Road ID.

BTW, last night's run was no problem.  I'm sure it helped that it was cold and super windy so nobody was out.  Not sure I'll go that way during the summer but I'll cross that road (ahem) when I come to it.  Besides, running on the rec center track was super frustrating.  It's 200m and there were 2 groups of kids doing workouts crossways.  I ended up shouting "Excuse me" a bunch of times and feeling like I was totally in the way.  All our high school tracks are closed to the public and I don't have a car on Tuesday nights so I'm going to have to figure out another way to get my track workouts in!

Originally posted by laffinrock

Originally posted by cdban66

Originally posted by mtnbikerchk

Originally posted by cdban66

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Dude...I was at a gay (mostly men) club,  where 50% of them are dressed better than myself and the other 50% are in women's clothes dressed better than myself, surrounded by 12 of my friends.

Ok, most of that was a joke but my point is that things can happen anywhere. 

And although I am expressing my struggles with it all, mostly we can just be aware and cautious and keep doing what we love. The rest of the stuff -life- is unpredictable. 

I get it. 100%. Stuff happens and it often doesn't matter where, who, why, or when. It just happens. But as you stated, we CAN NOT let that stop us. Keep doing what you do.

As a husband and father of 2 girls, well, like a stated earlier, it all saddens me.

On the face of it - I agree that we can't let this stop what we do but in reality until they figure out who did this I'm not going to run over there in the dark and alone anymore. I probably will still run in my neighborhood (which is about 4 miles from the stabbing). I don't really know why but running away from the trail and closer to home somehow makes it feel safer. I will also probably skip the ipod for now too. A lot of the women around here are buddying up to run together instead of alone but so far it's kinda tough finding someone that matches my schedule and pace. I'm still working on it

I'm glad you are taking precautions and still doing your thing. We're having a conversation at work right now about this sort of thing. "Awareness" seems to be a standard talking point. 

How many of us send texts or phone call before and after a workout? TW insists on that from me, just so that she'll feel better about my bike riding. I understood her point before this whole discussion and even more so now.

I don't do that but I do make sure that DH knows when I left, the route I'm going and how long I expect to be gone.  I've also started always taking my phone and I always wear my Road ID.

BTW, last night's run was no problem.  I'm sure it helped that it was cold and super windy so nobody was out.  Not sure I'll go that way during the summer but I'll cross that road (ahem) when I come to it.  Besides, running on the rec center track was super frustrating.  It's 200m and there were 2 groups of kids doing workouts crossways.  I ended up shouting "Excuse me" a bunch of times and feeling like I was totally in the way.  All our high school tracks are closed to the public and I don't have a car on Tuesday nights so I'm going to have to figure out another way to get my track workouts in!

I am RARELY alone at home. So I let whomever is home know which way I'm going (they know my routes) and how long I expect to be gone. If I run in Santa Fe I let my partner know the same. There have been times she text me when I took longer than expected and the first time I took Sydney out DS2 was getting ready to come look for me because he thought I was gone too long.

Originally posted by cdban66

Originally posted by mtnbikerchk

Originally posted by cdban66

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Dude...I was at a gay (mostly men) club,  where 50% of them are dressed better than myself and the other 50% are in women's clothes dressed better than myself, surrounded by 12 of my friends.

Ok, most of that was a joke but my point is that things can happen anywhere. 

And although I am expressing my struggles with it all, mostly we can just be aware and cautious and keep doing what we love. The rest of the stuff -life- is unpredictable. 

I get it. 100%. Stuff happens and it often doesn't matter where, who, why, or when. It just happens. But as you stated, we CAN NOT let that stop us. Keep doing what you do.

As a husband and father of 2 girls, well, like a stated earlier, it all saddens me.

On the face of it - I agree that we can't let this stop what we do but in reality until they figure out who did this I'm not going to run over there in the dark and alone anymore. I probably will still run in my neighborhood (which is about 4 miles from the stabbing). I don't really know why but running away from the trail and closer to home somehow makes it feel safer. I will also probably skip the ipod for now too. A lot of the women around here are buddying up to run together instead of alone but so far it's kinda tough finding someone that matches my schedule and pace. I'm still working on it

I'm glad you are taking precautions and still doing your thing. We're having a conversation at work right now about this sort of thing. "Awareness" seems to be a standard talking point. 

How many of us send texts or phone call before and after a workout? TW insists on that from me, just so that she'll feel better about my bike riding. I understood her point before this whole discussion and even more so now.

It would be pretty challenging as I run 7 days a week, usually twice a day.

For times when I am running in the backcountry I always let someone know where I am. My coworkers know that I run in to work so if I were to be unusually late, they would take action. I think anything else might be unreasonable... I dunno

What a sad and scary story, Randee   I hope the investigation is moving forward...the article seemed pretty vague about details. I'm sure family and community are praying for answers and closure.

In reading through lots of comments and questions, I find I'm in a pretty different situation than other Manatees. My SAHM status provides me with a near-constant "safe" training environment. I don't have to run at night, and if it happens that I do, I have the treadmill. I very, very seldom choose to run outside at night. I don't wear ear buds; if I want music, I use the speaker on my phone which is usually turned down enough so I can talk to Mak. I check in with J before/after, and when I was doing marathon training, we sent texts every 30-45min. Plus, I have a training partner on the weekends for long stuff.

Some may think it's silly, but I take my current job seriously. To jeopardize it because I "should" be able to do what I want, when I want without fear is to ignore reality: bad people exist everywhere. I choose to not put myself in situations where I make myself an easy target because I place a higher value on being around to raise my kids than running alone in the dark or in questionable areas.

And, yes, I do think running alone at night is a different jeopardy than mountain biking

p.s. anyone ever keep keys in hand for "weapon"? I read about it years ago and used to keep them handy when I was out at night alone.

I always do that when going to my car at night.  Hadn't thought of doing it while I run.  Good idea.

On a completely different and more upbeat note, tomorrow is Thanksgiving Day for those of us in the States.  What are you thankful for this holiday?  I'll start:

• My health (huge one for me if you couldn't already tell )
• My wonderful DH
• My fur kids, who make me smile and feel loved every day
• My stable job
• My warm, safe home
• All the privileges I have because of my race and socio-economic status.
• That my parents have finally accepted my DH and welcomed him into their home (they didn't for the first 15.5 yrs. we were together)
• That I found you wonderful group of Manatees, who have accepted and embraced me.  Y'all are the best!!

Hope you have a great holiday!!  (((Hugs))) to you all.

I'm not sure if anyone's posted this yet, but here's a story Kayla Montgomery who was diagnosed with MS as a teen.  She then proceeded to run track in high school.  It's a great watch.

Catching Kayla

Originally posted by cdban66

Originally posted by mtnbikerchk

Originally posted by cdban66

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Dude...I was at a gay (mostly men) club,  where 50% of them are dressed better than myself and the other 50% are in women's clothes dressed better than myself, surrounded by 12 of my friends.

Ok, most of that was a joke but my point is that things can happen anywhere. 

And although I am expressing my struggles with it all, mostly we can just be aware and cautious and keep doing what we love. The rest of the stuff -life- is unpredictable. 

I get it. 100%. Stuff happens and it often doesn't matter where, who, why, or when. It just happens. But as you stated, we CAN NOT let that stop us. Keep doing what you do.

As a husband and father of 2 girls, well, like a stated earlier, it all saddens me.

On the face of it - I agree that we can't let this stop what we do but in reality until they figure out who did this I'm not going to run over there in the dark and alone anymore. I probably will still run in my neighborhood (which is about 4 miles from the stabbing). I don't really know why but running away from the trail and closer to home somehow makes it feel safer. I will also probably skip the ipod for now too. A lot of the women around here are buddying up to run together instead of alone but so far it's kinda tough finding someone that matches my schedule and pace. I'm still working on it

I'm glad you are taking precautions and still doing your thing. We're having a conversation at work right now about this sort of thing. "Awareness" seems to be a standard talking point. 

How many of us send texts or phone call before and after a workout? TW insists on that from me, just so that she'll feel better about my bike riding. I understood her point before this whole discussion and even more so now.

Now that I am Iphone enabled I have a couple of apps that track my progress and actually allow my friends and family to track me in real time on Facebook.   The app is called Runtastic and I have Runtastic's bicycle app that does the same thing on the bike.     Dr.Shortstop insists that I use these.

I have a CC permit.  I have a compact 9mm that I carry when I run and when I bike.   But I never had a problem with anyone I have encountered. I have never drawn it whilst biking or running.   Guess I still look like the biggest baddest Marine in the valley.    Most everyone just says "sir".     I'm not that big.   It must be the way I carry myself.   

Originally posted by MadMathemagician

Originally posted by cdban66

Originally posted by mtnbikerchk

Originally posted by cdban66

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Dude...I was at a gay (mostly men) club,  where 50% of them are dressed better than myself and the other 50% are in women's clothes dressed better than myself, surrounded by 12 of my friends.

Ok, most of that was a joke but my point is that things can happen anywhere. 

And although I am expressing my struggles with it all, mostly we can just be aware and cautious and keep doing what we love. The rest of the stuff -life- is unpredictable. 

I get it. 100%. Stuff happens and it often doesn't matter where, who, why, or when. It just happens. But as you stated, we CAN NOT let that stop us. Keep doing what you do.

As a husband and father of 2 girls, well, like a stated earlier, it all saddens me.

On the face of it - I agree that we can't let this stop what we do but in reality until they figure out who did this I'm not going to run over there in the dark and alone anymore. I probably will still run in my neighborhood (which is about 4 miles from the stabbing). I don't really know why but running away from the trail and closer to home somehow makes it feel safer. I will also probably skip the ipod for now too. A lot of the women around here are buddying up to run together instead of alone but so far it's kinda tough finding someone that matches my schedule and pace. I'm still working on it

I'm glad you are taking precautions and still doing your thing. We're having a conversation at work right now about this sort of thing. "Awareness" seems to be a standard talking point. 

How many of us send texts or phone call before and after a workout? TW insists on that from me, just so that she'll feel better about my bike riding. I understood her point before this whole discussion and even more so now.

Now that I am Iphone enabled I have a couple of apps that track my progress and actually allow my friends and family to track me in real time on Facebook.   The app is called Runtastic and I have Runtastic's bicycle app that does the same thing on the bike.     Dr.Shortstop insists that I use these.

I have a CC permit.  I have a compact 9mm that I carry when I run and when I bike.   But I never had a problem with anyone I have encountered. I have never drawn it whilst biking or running.   Guess I still look like the biggest baddest Marine in the valley.    Most everyone just says "sir".     I'm not that big.   It must be the way I carry myself.   

MapMyRun (/Bike /Fitness /etc) does this live tracking as well.  I figure it's useful for those that need it.

Happy Thanksgiving!

Originally posted by StaceyK

Originally posted by amd723

Originally posted by jmkizer

Happy Thanksgiving!

Yes, Happy Thanksgiving to all the thanksgiving celebrating manatees!! The rest of you, have a nice Thursday

i would like to celebrate thanksgiving, I like the concept of it. It seems to be a far more purposeful reason to celebrate than some of the other holiday days we have -like the queens birthday.Oh and what's on your BLACK FRIDAY/CYBER MONDAY shopping list this year?

I don't have anything on my shopping list - my surgery and new HVAC unit have taken care of that!!