Arguments against enhanced interrogation make no sense (Page 3)

Wow, is trinnas the only one who knows the punch line? An what does that tell u about her?

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There is a legal difference between enhanced interrogation and torture.  We subject our own troops to enhanced interrogation, we would not/could not legally subject them to torture.

I don't have a list but I'm sure you could google it.  The ones I can think of off the top of my head are loud noises, waterboarding, stress positions, sensory deprivation, and sleep deprivation.

If you want to have a discussion like a grown up then own your beliefs.  but if it looks like a duck (troll) Quacks like a duck (troll) and waddles like a duck (troll) then it is probably a duck (troll).  Do not be surprised when you get treated like a duck when you have acted like one.

Have you considered that they have a point?  Yes at some point they will break but how many wild goose chases is one supposed to go on to find that breaking point.  Is that really efficient?  If your answer is to get the ultimate info at any and all costs then it is probably the most "efficient" within those parameters.  If your argument is to get the most reliable information then no it is not the most "efficient".  It may be the most effective but not the most efficient.

Something about leaving a trail...

Something about leaving a trail...

I might enjoy this discussion if it weren't for the whole alternate BT account part of it. Is creating a second account in violation of the site terms of service a form of enhanced forum posting?

Wow, is trinnas the only one who knows the punch line? An what does that tell u about her?

Either they decide they can't take it anymore and tell you the truth right away or they lie a few times.  If it is the latter then it is not efficient but it is still better than not getting the information at all which is the alternative.  If someone captured me and wanted to know the location of my brother so they could kill him there is no possibility I would tell them his location unless they used forced.  I would hope I could still resist but eventually I would more likely than not break down. There is also the possibility I would be weak and give them what they want very quickly.  Either way they would gain more by force than not using force at all.  

Yes but with out them our heads would only reach, right about.... There.

No I have another account but I would rather not divulge it.  When you say something that is logically true but sounds bad people tend to demonize you even if they can't think of one reason why you are wrong.  

Richard Mourdock is in some ways an example of this.  Some Jews say that the Holocaust was allowed to happen because God was testing them.  The theory is that people are given free will and sometimes God will intervene and sometimes he will not.  His plan was to create a world where people are given these choices.  Sometimes they will make terrible choices such as rape and murder.  Sometimes God will intervene and sometimes he will test your faith.  

Mourdock's comments were insensitive but I don't see how they are out of line with the religious beliefs of tens if not hundreds of millions of people.  I'm an atheist so I obviously don't agree with him but that is besides the point.

The point is that even if you say something that is logically true people will still unfairly demonize you for it.