Lance on Oprah (Page 3)

EPOsting.

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LOL Hilarious!

Now you are pushing it - Brett was pine tar not corked bats which provided no performance advantage.  

Wasn't it Sammy Sosa who had the end of his bat pop off hitting a home run ??

This is exactly my thought.  There will be dozens of lawyers analyzing every word he says...

I don't think that he will address much outside of his own doping participation.  I think if they start bringing up the issues of his $250K "donations" to USADA he will refuse to comment under advisement of his attorney.  And if they start talking about how he destroyed others' careers he'll probably chalk it up to personal differences.  He may also say that he doesn't feel bad for flexing his muscle (i.e. money and power) to protect himself against other dopers who are hypocrites and are only speaking against him because they got caught.  Again, he had to be nasty and act nasty in an environment where only the nasty thrive.  That environment was created and fostered by the UCI.  However, my guess is that he will keep these comments general and not go into details about Tyler Hamilton, Landis, Andreu, etc.

In my opinion all that he says would be technically true but it still DOES NOT excuse his own personal behavior.  The only positive thing that may come out of this is that he's successful in embarrassing the hell out of UCI, WADA, and USADA who in reality were the model of incompetence during the height of the doping era in cycling.  We'll see...

mgalanter - 2013-01-08 8:02 PM The title of this thread reads like a porno title from my worst nightmare. 

^^^^Thread winner. 

Who cares anymore?

I'm not a Lance fanboy but my question is why does no one blame the governing bodies? Seems they're (or whoever pocketed his "donations") as guilty as he is

Did you really just say "Maybe he doped" I hope that was a joke!

I think USADA was very successful in achieving a major goal - it was able to demonstrate through its reasoned decision that there exists a substantial amount of corruption in the UCI, as well as document doping methodologies in use which continue to successfully evade detection by WADA accredited labs.

As for ROI, think about the following:

According to its 2011 annual statement, USADA received a total of $8,982,000 in federal grants, with the remainder of its budget coming from investment returns and contracts with the USOC.  Keep in mind that USADA does a whole lot more than chase Lance (like fulfill IOC requirements for the US to field an Olympic team, or run tests on the field at Kona).

USADA operates as an affiliate of the Office of National Drug Policy.  ONDCP are the folks responsible for our incredibly successful "War on Drugs", and operate with an annual budget of $428,000,000 in FY 2010.

Talk about "crap-tons of money...which in the end got exactly what for us the taxpayers?"

SYJ

No, after Trek dropped him, he switched to Pinarello's "Opera" sub-brand.

SYJ

That's exactly how I feel about the whole thing. I also think it's too soon for him to be doing anything. I wish, for his sake, that he'd just go away for a while. I, for one, as a huge HUGE supporter of his, feel... betrayed.

When my Dad passed away, we had donations made to LAF in his memory. I'm so glad my poor dad isn't alive to see this. I wore a yellow Livestrong band for (honestly!) 7 years straight. 2004-2011.

So, yeah, I don't care what he does. Whatever.

And I won't watch.

Oprah? Lance you have officially jumped the shark.

I don't know if anyone really cares per se but it's entertainment.  Just because you read/watch something doesn't mean you necessarily care but simply do so for entertainment value.

As for coming clean, he may come clean by not coming clean.  And what I mean by that is OJ Simpson never really said he committed murder, but he did write that book a while ago called "If I Did It" that describes a hypothetical crime he committed.  It was his confession without a confession.

Could be something similar to that.

I used to believe in Lance, or at least I wanted to believe in him.  His comeback from cancer was an inpiration for me when I was recovering from my open heart surgery and helped motivate me to resume an active life again.

My father died from renal cell cancer in June 2004 after suffering horribly for eight months.   I started wearing my LiveStrong bracelet just before my father died and even bought a couple bags of them to pass out at his memorial service.  When my father-in-law died two years later from pancreatic cancer it reinforced my conviction to support LiveStrong. 

As the story has emerged over the past months, I still wanted to keep believing on an emotional level, but my rational side increasingly couldn't ignore the facts.  I also felt betrayed.

I've considered taking off my bracelet.  The thing that keeps me wearing it is I keep telling myself that I really never wore it for Lance, I wore it for my Dad, my father-in-law, and others who have suffered fron cancer...and for myself.

I still think that Lance can find redemption as a human being, but he has to be completely honest, show true remorse, not temper his position due to potential financial considerations and be willing to accept whatever consequences that the truth brings.

I guess we'll see if he is willing to do that.

Mark