TAN 201: Yanti races Ironman JaTAN (Page 30)

Unnecessary!

You should definitely call your boss into your office about this.

He didn't get it. 

He didn't get it. 

Who's to say he will lose interest?  You make it sound like it's inevitable.  How old is she?  18?  She doesn't have an education?  My wife doesn't have a degree.  I guess she is uneducated as well?  Did he ask her to quit school?  Does she pursue her own interests like modeling?  Maybe that's not paying off and he supplements her income for her assistance?

I guess I see it this way.  If I was loaded and in a long term relationship, I may simply say "quit your job and help me" - especially if they aren't in a fulfilling career of their own or don't like their work.  It would be a way for me to spend more time with me, make my life easier, and since I'm not depending on a second salary, what's the big deal?

For example, the wife would have to work a side job as a server when she was making nothing as a ballet dancer when we first dated.  There were nights that I said I would give her 20 bucks to NOT go to work and stay home with me (since there were many nights that's all she made).  If I were even better off?  I could say quit, pursue your dance full time, but if you need money, I'll take care of you if you help me out with stuff so you don't feel completely like a gold digger/mooch.

People are so awesome. And so weird.

One of my BFs friends is unbelievably loaded rich. This weekend was the 2nd charity event I've been to with him where he has dropped $30K like he was tipping a waitress. Naming rights to the next baby tiger cub? MUST WIN. Obscure painting by local artist? MUST WIN and then RE-GIVE back to charity to auction again. Here's another few thousand for the pot. 

He also basically "pays" a girl to be his girlfriend. Now this I do not get. She is model-gorgeous but is basically his assistant in every way/shape/form. She does not work. He gives her all access to credit cards, pays her bills, etc. in return for her doing whatever he asks (grocery shopping, clean house, be his girlfriend). I am not sure if she is just living the dream, or has such little self worth that she thinks this is as good as it gets for her? What happens when he loses interest and she has no education, no job, no money. Not my problem but girls like this baffle me.

People are so awesome. And so weird.

One of my BFs friends is unbelievably loaded rich. This weekend was the 2nd charity event I've been to with him where he has dropped $30K like he was tipping a waitress. Naming rights to the next baby tiger cub? MUST WIN. Obscure painting by local artist? MUST WIN and then RE-GIVE back to charity to auction again. Here's another few thousand for the pot. 

He also basically "pays" a girl to be his girlfriend. Now this I do not get. She is model-gorgeous but is basically his assistant in every way/shape/form. She does not work. He gives her all access to credit cards, pays her bills, etc. in return for her doing whatever he asks (grocery shopping, clean house, be his girlfriend). I am not sure if she is just living the dream, or has such little self worth that she thinks this is as good as it gets for her? What happens when he loses interest and she has no education, no job, no money. Not my problem but girls like this baffle me.

It sounds like it's an arrangement that is mutually beneficial for them right now.  

I knowwwww!!!  This is total BS.  Here I thought I was getting paid to be on BT... 

FYI - the Christmas Story run that you signed up for looks freakin' AWESOME!  I wish we lived closer to be able to do it, I'd dress up as Ralphie's kid brother with so many layers he couldn't put his arms down.  

Maybe he just WANTS to have a stay at home/kept woman and maybe that's what makes her happy.  Just because it appears unpalatable to "us", doesn't mean it's not cool for them.

That is a very polite way to put it 

I know it's not really my deal, or problem. But we are hanging out with them more and more and it's a challenge coming up with things to talk about with this girl. 

Me: "Hey! How was your day?"
Her: "Not bad. I slept all day and then got ready for dinner."
............
I have no idea what to say to that, which was the extent of what she said to me before turning to another girl and talking about lip gloss. 

Totally agree. I wasn't intending to "judge" her - just that I do not identify with that lifestyle in any way and am having a hard time relating to and having conversations with her. 

I am also a big advocate for women empowering themselves and adding value to the world. It saddens me a little when I see women who are highly capable of such, but have no desire to do either. Their choice = absolutely. 

Was this the last race to KQ for 2013 or one of the first races to KQ for 2014?

I HEARD the problem with early season races, everyone keeps their spots.  There are more roll down spots in later races if people have already qualified.  I would assume that in late/last season races, the people really trying to peak for October are not in it and it's only the people where this is their last chance - so no roll down spots.

Totally agree. I wasn't intending to "judge" her - just that I do not identify with that lifestyle in any way and am having a hard time relating to and having conversations with her. 

I am also a big advocate for women empowering themselves and adding value to the world. It saddens me a little when I see women who are highly capable of such, but have no desire to do either. Their choice = absolutely. 

I'm trying to figure out the best way to reply.  I guess "adding value" is a bit over rated?  Or we have a grand expectation of ourselves/others?

Does me designing a shopping mall, another football stadium, or new subdivision or bridge add any REAL value to the world?  Preparing this months TPS/financial report?  Serving cocktails or serving a burger?

There are 6 billion people on this planet that basically are along for the ride.  They exist and make their own little lives as happy as they can be.  I think as long as you are not tearing the world down with crime or violence or evil, you are doing ok.  None of us ad any real value in the blip of time we are on this planet.

That's why you should be HAPPY in your moment of time on the earth and try to make the people around you happy.  Because thinking we are adding an real value?  It's a rare few that get to do that.  I guess I don't hold people the expectation to change or add value to the world.  I do, however, expect them to not hurt others or hurt the world and hopefully make themselves happy.

I am adding value to the world by keeping fraudsters and boosters off the streets, therefore keeping prices down in the retail world. Doctors add value to the world, firemen add value, Garbage men add value to the world in my opinion. So I do  think someone can add value to the world no matter what job they are doing, as long as they are doing something, or trying to do something.

I'm trying to figure out the best way to reply.  I guess "adding value" is a bit over rated?  Or we have a grand expectation of ourselves/others?

Does me designing a shopping mall, another football stadium, or new subdivision or bridge add any REAL value to the world?  Preparing this months TPS/financial report?  Serving cocktails or serving a burger?

There are 6 billion people on this planet that basically are along for the ride.  They exist and make their own little lives as happy as they can be.  I think as long as you are not tearing the world down with crime or violence or evil, you are doing ok.  None of us ad any real value in the blip of time we are on this planet.

That's why you should be HAPPY in your moment of time on the earth and try to make the people around you happy.  Because thinking we are adding an real value?  It's a rare few that get to do that.  I guess I don't hold people the expectation to change or add value to the world.  I do, however, expect them to not hurt others or hurt the world and hopefully make themselves happy.

bewbs

Like trying to be a good mom (dad) and stay home to raise a family?  Or does it have to be a job you get paid for?

Same thing along the lines of "if EVERYONE is special, then is ANYONE special?  What is the meaning of special if everyone is special.

We all try to provide value to our little spot in the world during the spec of time we are here.  In the grand scheme of things, the "footprint" anyone leaves is so small, who's to judge what is more "value" than someone else?  Does the doctor provide more value than the fireman?  Does the engineer offer more value than the cop?  Does the dentist offer more value than the stay at home mom?  Does it matter when the doctor, fireman, engineer, cop, mom, or dentist are dust in the ground?

The footprint that most people leave is SO insignificant, I think it's a little silly to say that the engineer provided more value than someone who doesn't work when none of it really matters, big picture.

So again, try to be happy, don't hurt people or be a burden and you are good in my book.  I don't expect some grand contribution from people or judge them based on what I would consider a value or contribution.  Some may say the poet adds value.  To me?  Meh.  No value.  Does that make them less valuable since I don't appreciate it?

I will say again - simply - that I'm a big advocate of adding value, however that is individually defined.

Your response indicated that you don't believe you add value. Why not? (and I bet your employer, friends and family would disagree...)

JUST like the homeless guy on the corner.  Big picture?  The same.  No better, no worse based on what is considered a value or not by others.

Amen.

Wow I'm sorry you feel this way about your contributions. 

I had no idea my little TAN rant would result in such a detailed analysis/conversation!