Manatee Mentors 2016 - Closed (Page 30)

Originally posted by popsracer

Thank you for your kind words.

Interesting turn of events.  I got a call last night from my oncologist.  As an alternative to surgery there is a new drug approved by the FDA to fight other types of cancer that has been approved for clinical trials for what I have.  Problem is that some folks in the trial get a placebo.  If it does grow by 20% and you were on a placebo they will then put you on the drug.  Another benefit is that it attacks the tumor(s) at a microscopic level so if there is something in there as yet undetected it will work against that too. I can afford to let the thing grow a little bit before surgery is required so I am considering this option though we do not really know how much growth before it starts to interfere with functions.  Kind of a crap shoot and not really sure what to do at this point. 

Also, since I am currently resting up for surgery I am not doing any training.  If that surgery is no longer on the immediate horizon I can get off the DL.  

Originally posted by johnthecat Nice race report. What's the deal with this Freeman?

Originally posted by amd723

Thanks!  I should ask him what his deal is! Really, I just think he's clueless!!

Originally posted by popsracer

Thank you for your kind words.

Interesting turn of events.  I got a call last night from my oncologist.  As an alternative to surgery there is a new drug approved by the FDA to fight other types of cancer that has been approved for clinical trials for what I have.  Problem is that some folks in the trial get a placebo.  If it does grow by 20% and you were on a placebo they will then put you on the drug.  Another benefit is that it attacks the tumor(s) at a microscopic level so if there is something in there as yet undetected it will work against that too. I can afford to let the thing grow a little bit before surgery is required so I am considering this option though we do not really know how much growth before it starts to interfere with functions.  Kind of a crap shoot and not really sure what to do at this point. 

Also, since I am currently resting up for surgery I am not doing any training.  If that surgery is no longer on the immediate horizon I can get off the DL.  

Originally posted by amd723

That's great! 

Originally posted by brigby1

Definitely bring this up with him some time. Easy to clip feet and send you tumbling. Really doesn't take much to do it. Especially in a trail race, give some space. People move and see the course differently. That bothered me enough on the road when some guy kept hanging on my heels in a 10k. I was able to gap and just outrun him. Glad you were able to enjoy it otherwise!

Originally posted by johnthecat

Ok, I signed up for the half marathon. Katy Half. Sean I hope you come out there and cheer me on since it's in your neighborhood .

The only time I've done an official race longer than a 5k was in 1998 and that was a 10k. I ran that one with no prep whatsoever and I was hurting bad for a week (I wish I could come close to the pace I ran that one with training these days, oh well).

I swore that I would never run anything further than that 10 k for the rest of my life. I guess some promises are just meant to be broken and I'm following the Manatee advise and I'm going to "DOOOOOO EEEETTTTTTTT".

Originally posted by lisac957

GUYS I WAS CLEARED TO RUN THIS MORNING!!!

With a few caveats... need to wear an ankle brace, start slow, very low volume, etc. My log today has all the details but I think I'm going to stick with the AMT elliptical until my range of motion returns, etc. etc. etc. - but this is such a huge step in my recovery. HAPPY GIRL 

Originally posted by Atlantia



Steve you are very wise, and whatever decision you make will undoubtedly be the right one. :-)

Originally posted by awm007

All,

Advice needed from some of the more experienced members on here. Short version: To what extent do you stick with a training plan vs modify depending on contingencies?

Longer version: I started with Tri last summer and trained in a pretty unsystematic way. This year I have signed up for an HIM and have found a much more systematic plan (Fink's plan provided in the "IronFit Secrets for the Half Iron-Distance..." book). I'm assuming the authors set up the plan based on a periodization schedule - for instance not training the same intensity and sports on consecutive days, allowing rest time, etc.

While sticking to the letter of the plan would seem best, and there injuries and illness that necessitate the occasional change. However, my question relates to what extent do others on here modify for things such as weather, training with friends, etc. For instance, if I have a bike day scheduled for Wed but it's supposed to be rainy and 35 degrees that day, would you swap that with Tuesday's swim day when it is expected to be sunny and 60 degrees? Or would you slog it out in the bad weather or trainer to stick with the plan?

Just curious as to what others do. I don't want to be one of those persons that comment on online cooking recipes where they substitute half the ingredients then complain that the resulting dish doesn't taste good. On the other hand, if I can get outside rather than ride the trainer by switching days, I'd rather do that.

Thanks in advance Manatees!

Originally posted by Jet Black I write my own plan so that probably makes me more flexible from the get go, but I wouldn't ever worry about moving stuff around as needed. Definitely swapping days is no big deal. I would try to keep weekly goals/schedules as close to plan as possible, but moving days around within the week isn't a big deal.

Originally posted by Superfunkyfresh I can't keep up.. This thread moves on so quickly.. Who's been out today for a blast? I've managed to get a Tri coach and hes given me a programme so today was an 'easy 35 min run' tomorrow will be Sufferfest with a run after it, Wed is a rest day, Thurs is a 10km x-country race and then we are moving into the weekend Happy Monday people.

Originally posted by lisac957

Totally agree. When I paid big bucks for a personal tri coach, even he said as long as I got in each week's workout within the week, I could re-arrange the workouts and days to my heart's content. With the exception of putting super long stuff back-to-back, or if there was a very specific reason to have workouts in proximity to each other (which was rare). 

Originally posted by brigby1

Curious about the intensity for each of you? Could see it working more like this when more of the workouts are at an easier effort.

Originally posted by lisac957

GUYS I WAS CLEARED TO RUN THIS MORNING!!!

With a few caveats... need to wear an ankle brace, start slow, very low volume, etc. My log today has all the details but I think I'm going to stick with the AMT elliptical until my range of motion returns, etc. etc. etc. - but this is such a huge step in my recovery. HAPPY GIRL 

Originally posted by lisac957

GUYS I WAS CLEARED TO RUN THIS MORNING!!!

With a few caveats... need to wear an ankle brace, start slow, very low volume, etc. My log today has all the details but I think I'm going to stick with the AMT elliptical until my range of motion returns, etc. etc. etc. - but this is such a huge step in my recovery. HAPPY GIRL 

Originally posted by Superfunkyfresh

I can't keep up.. This thread moves on so quickly..

Who's been out today for a blast? I've managed to get a Tri coach and hes given me a programme so today was an 'easy 35 min run' tomorrow will be Sufferfest with a run after it, Wed is a rest day, Thurs is a 10km x-country race and then we are moving into the weekend

Happy Monday people.

Originally posted by rrrunner

Amen to what Hands said

Originally posted by lisac957

I was training for my first Ironman, so the workouts ranged from 10 minutes recovery to all out time trials and everything inbetween. In general, I wouldn't stress about it too much, as long as you're getting your workouts in (especially the long stuff). If the weather or your body or life is telling you that your run is probably better suited for Saturday than Sunday... have at it

Originally posted by laffinrock

Happy Monday!  I managed to read through the last couple of pages today, and that was after spending time online doing other stuff.  Maybe I'm getting better?  Have a bit of a headache, though, so I need to sign off soon.  I wanted to check in here with my favorite people before I do.

Steve, I know you'll make the choice that's right for you.  Sending *lots* of positive thoughts your way.

Lisa, YAHOOOOO!!!  It's about time!!  Have fun and be careful for heaven's sake.

While I'm no expert on the subject, I agree with Sean and Lisa about just getting in the workouts for the week however you manage it and trying to avoid doing two hard days in a row.  I try not to do back to back days of the same discipline, but that could just be personal preference.  Not sure that it really makes that much difference.

Mary, I was out there yesterday in very similar conditions.  We had a team run and of the 18 people who signed up, only 7 showed.  We, the hard core, rocked it while the others stayed home in their cozy beds.    It was 12* when I started my 7-mi. run.  It did warm up a few degrees by the end because the sun was shining.  I should have taken a few pictures.  All the trees and grasses were covered with a layer of hoar-frost and it was so beautiful!!  I found somebody to run with, which made the miles go a lot faster.  We did an out-and-back that resulted in getting back to the store at about 6 mi.  My buddy pushed me to do another 1/2 mile out and back; I definitely wouldn't have done it without him.  The trail was snowy and mostly had one packed track so our pace was pretty slow.  Didn't matter, though.  We had a good conversation and I got in the planned miles.  21.5 miles this week!!!!

Mary and Markus, I'm training for my first HM too.  It's in mid-March and runs along the edge of Zion National Park in Utah.  I can't believe I'm gonna do this. Back in 2014, one of the Manatees (maybe Ann-Marie??) mentioned wanting to do this race, which made me decide to do it in Spring 2015.  I had to roll it over to this year because of injury.  This race has become really important to me.  Because of my current situation, my training is something that keeps me focused on goals and gets me out of the house and away from the self-pity that sometimes sets in.  I've been hurting lately but can control the pain with massage and using my foam roller.  I'm sick and tired of injuries keeping me from doing what I want to do so I've decided that I'm not going to let it stop me from doing this race!! 

I'm sorry I can't keep up with all the topics and that I have to keep posting these novels.  Doing my best to stay connected though.  You folks are a wonderful touchstone for me and are always in my thoughts even when I can't be here participating!!

Enjoy your day, even if it is Monday.  For that matter, it's after noon on Monday--even better.  Darren, I know that means it's your Wednesday so happy more-than-half-over-week to you.

See ya later.

m

Originally posted by brigby1Mostly looking at how others viewed or identified their longer/harder workouts. Trying to help with prioritizing things, which ones to keep spread out more. Then the rest is more like you said, not a big deal. I've seen where coaches may have like 3 levels of workouts to prioritize. No schedule, just get them in, but had some things to work with. The red (or highest) would be the ones to spread out as best they can. These would be the long workouts or high intensity ones. Then some yellow or moderate ones, then some green. Figure out which ones are red and the rest doesn't matter so much. If there are fewer red type workouts, then the schedule as a whole may be more flexible.

The frequency of such workouts can vary some too. When training more, I'll have several time trial intensity level workouts a week. so I'm always watching out for these. Others may not have so much and then have more flexibility with them.