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2010-05-11 10:49 PM
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trilund - Good luck in the marathon this weekend!  And yeah, Jon - I saw you were racing again this year.  I'm sure you're gonna smoke that course with all of the work you've been putting in.  If I make it out there, I'll be sure to look for you.


2010-05-12 10:37 AM
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I'm well not so healed up yet.  Oh well.  Nutrition is pretty basic for me for IM... Bike 2 bottles of 1000 calorie Infinit.  Run, 1 Gu per 25-30 minutes.  Add in water as needed for hydration.  I couldn't make it any simpler 8). 

Easy week here and then as much build as I can tollerate or hobble for the next 3 weeks.  We see how it goes.  At this point all I want is a finishers medal and 3 months off to rehab properly before rebuilding from nothing.
2010-05-12 11:34 AM
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Travis - Also glad to hear you guys are okay.  With just over 6 weeks to go, I hope everyone manages to stay injury free (or in T's case, at least heals up enough to race).

I almost took a spill on the bike this weekend taking a corner too fast.  Locked up the rear wheel but was able to save it and keep myself from flying into a creek. 

That reminded me be more cautious, particularly in this peak volume month.

2010-05-12 11:37 AM
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jodavis21 - 2010-05-12 9:34 AM Travis - Also glad to hear you guys are okay.  With just over 6 weeks to go, I hope everyone manages to stay injury free (or in T's case, at least heals up enough to race).

Oops, I mean't Baowolf... sorry.
2010-05-12 2:56 PM
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My Polar CS600 bike computer recorded 4000 feet of climbing on the CDA course in 2008. Take that for whatever you think it is worth.
2010-05-13 9:01 PM
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Rode 1 loop of the course today and some hills getting there and back and came up with 2500' with my Garmin on this site and 4100' on Garmin Connect. Beats me. Pretty hilly though, a couple pretty good climbs then lots of rollers ugh. It's flat riding back into town. Gorgeous course though. And some guy out on Rimrock road has set up a very nice Ironman Pit Stop. Porta potty, gels and bars and water and some powder mix. Came in very handy! How nice is that.

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2010-05-14 12:19 AM
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achen2iron - 2010-05-13 7:01 PM

Rode 1 loop of the course today and some hills getting there and back and came up with 2500' with my Garmin on this site and 4100' on Garmin Connect. Beats me. Pretty hilly though, a couple pretty good climbs then lots of rollers ugh. It's flat riding back into town. Gorgeous course though. And some guy out on Rimrock road has set up a very nice Ironman Pit Stop. Porta potty, gels and bars and water and some powder mix. Came in very handy! How nice is that.


That guy on Rimrock is awesome! He has been doing that every spring since they moved the course up there.
2010-05-17 1:23 AM
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Hey there everyone.  Hope the weekend treated you all well.  I participated in the full-IM sim on Saturday, only did one loop of the run (~12 miles).  I did the full swim and 116 on the bike.  It wasn't really a race simulation, but more of a "do the distance" type of event.   We took a lot of breaks and my T1 time was almost as long as my 1:14 swim.  Including all of the stops on the bike, I was out on the course for over 13 hours.  It was a good chance to train some nutrition and I think I have a better idea of what to expect in the late stages of an Ironman.
2010-05-17 9:26 AM
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Hey everyone- I hope everyone had a good training weekend.  It's getting to be crunch time!!

I had a decent weekend and got in some good volume.  I rode 85 miles on Sat (longest ride so far) and tried to get as much climbing in as possible here in NC.  Garmin showed 4,443 ft of climbing on my route which I'm pretty sure is wrong- my guess is that it was around 1,600 feet.  Maybe 2,000 max if I'm lucky.  I'm getting worried that I'm not getting in enough climbing for CDA.  I plan to ride 100 this weekend, then have a recovery week, and then do a mtn. century ride the first weekend of June with 8,000 ft of climbing!  Hopefully that will prepare me for the CDA bike.

I've switched gears and started to really slow up my long runs (ran 15 yesterday) and I'm trying to incorporate walking for a min every mile to simulate walking through aid stations on race day.  I need to get my body used to being out there longer/slower.

I cannot believe how close the race is getting!  I need to tie up some loose ends and arrange for wetsuit rentals, and then I don't have much else to do but train and pack for the trip in a few weeks!
2010-05-17 9:26 AM
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Sorry- DP.



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2010-05-17 2:32 PM
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Not to be feasting on any open wounds, but thought it worth asking...

 

I'm in the process of finalizing my travel plans (yes, very late to the game) and looking to secure some accomodations.

Anyone have an extra room for rent or a hotel reservation, and they are not going to be using?

The race hotel actually has a room available, but it sounds like it is a conference room, plus they want $430 per night.

before I book myself at the Holiday Inn express (which has rooms available btw) - thought I would toss it out there. 

 

PM me if you need an additional renter or want to see about transferring a hotel reservations in case your CdA plans have changed.

 

Thanks.



2010-05-17 2:39 PM
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condorman - 2010-05-17 3:32 PM

Not to be feasting on any open wounds, but thought it worth asking...

 

I'm in the process of finalizing my travel plans (yes, very late to the game) and looking to secure some accomodations.

Anyone have an extra room for rent or a hotel reservation, and they are not going to be using?

The race hotel actually has a room available, but it sounds like it is a conference room, plus they want $430 per night.

before I book myself at the Holiday Inn express (which has rooms available btw) - thought I would toss it out there. 

 

PM me if you need an additional renter or want to see about transferring a hotel reservations in case your CdA plans have changed.

 

Thanks.


Check with captantony- he's not going to be doing CDA anymore.  That might be an option.
2010-05-17 3:05 PM
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Whew! I feel some so better ... the water temperature is up to a whopping 54* right now.

Seriously, nice to see a 7* temperature swing in 11 days.  Here's to hoping that the temperature continues to go in the right direction!

brian - 2010-05-06 3:14 PM Ummm ... is the May 6th water temp in Lake Coeur d'Alene really 47*F (8.5*C)? If so is it reasonable to think that it will go up 13* between now and race day? (I like to hope for at least 60* water temp for race day ... is that too much to ask for? )

http://waterdata.usgs.gov/nwisweb/graph?agency_cd=USGS&site_no=12417610&parm_cd=00010&period=7    
2010-05-17 3:31 PM
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condorman - 2010-05-17 12:32 PM

Anyone have an extra room for rent or a hotel reservation, and they are not going to be using?



FYI - as of last week, Super 8 Motel on Appleway Ave had rooms available for ~$90/night. Certainly not luxury, and a couple of miles from the Expo/Finish area, but the price is right....
2010-05-17 5:56 PM
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brian - 2010-05-17 2:05 PM Whew! I feel some so better ... the water temperature is up to a whopping 54* right now.

Seriously, nice to see a 7* temperature swing in 11 days.  Here's to hoping that the temperature continues to go in the right direction!

brian - 2010-05-06 3:14 PM Ummm ... is the May 6th water temp in Lake Coeur d'Alene really 47*F (8.5*C)? If so is it reasonable to think that it will go up 13* between now and race day? (I like to hope for at least 60* water temp for race day ... is that too much to ask for? )

http://waterdata.usgs.gov/nwisweb/graph?agency_cd=USGS&site_no=12417610&parm_cd=00010&period=7    


This time last year it was 48 degrees.  They have started to fill the lake early this year due to the low snow pack.  A lot can happen in the next 6 weeks but you may need to worry more about a hot swim vs. a cold one.
2010-05-17 6:05 PM
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T in Liberty Lake - 2010-05-17 6:56 PM
brian - 2010-05-17 2:05 PM Whew! I feel some so better ... the water temperature is up to a whopping 54* right now.

Seriously, nice to see a 7* temperature swing in 11 days.  Here's to hoping that the temperature continues to go in the right direction!

brian - 2010-05-06 3:14 PM Ummm ... is the May 6th water temp in Lake Coeur d'Alene really 47*F (8.5*C)? If so is it reasonable to think that it will go up 13* between now and race day? (I like to hope for at least 60* water temp for race day ... is that too much to ask for? )

http://waterdata.usgs.gov/nwisweb/graph?agency_cd=USGS&site_no=12417610&parm_cd=00010&period=7    


This time last year it was 48 degrees.  They have started to fill the lake early this year due to the low snow pack.  A lot can happen in the next 6 weeks but you may need to worry more about a hot swim vs. a cold one.


I honestly would be ok with a warmer swim.  Maybe then I could wear my sleeveless and not have to rent a full!  

Is it too early to start obsessing over the weather?   


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Can you tell me about the road surface?  Smooth?  Chipseal? 
2010-05-17 10:55 PM
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It's pretty smooth right now. Lancaster down to Gov't Way is a little rough. They have one short section torn up (gravel) on Lakeview/English Point, but I'm sure it will be better by race day.
2010-05-17 11:29 PM
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54? Really? It's time to start getting some OWS done.
2010-05-18 12:02 PM
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condorman - 2010-05-17 12:32 PM

Not to be feasting on any open wounds, but thought it worth asking...

 

I'm in the process of finalizing my travel plans (yes, very late to the game) and looking to secure some accomodations.

Anyone have an extra room for rent or a hotel reservation, and they are not going to be using?

The race hotel actually has a room available, but it sounds like it is a conference room, plus they want $430 per night.

before I book myself at the Holiday Inn express (which has rooms available btw) - thought I would toss it out there. 

 

PM me if you need an additional renter or want to see about transferring a hotel reservations in case your CdA plans have changed.

 

Thanks.

Cedar Motel has at least one room, as I just cancelled for friends that can't make the trip with us.  We'll still be there though.

 



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2010-05-19 9:30 AM
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Hopefully this link works... for those who like to worry (or plan) here is a link to the Lake Coeur d' Alene outflow gauge maintained by the USGS.

Note the sensor depth. This morning it was at 9 feet.

http://waterdata.usgs.gov/nwis/uv?cb_00010=on&cb_72147=on&format=gi...


2010-05-19 10:26 AM
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Yay I get to START my run/walk build for CDA this week..... HRM, possibly too little to late 8).  Oh well.  If I can actually jog the first 6 miles or so that will save me an hour, scary thought. 

Ok I know basically nothing about bikes.  What is involved in changing from the faster gear set on the back to the hillier gear set (11 27 to 12 28 or whatever it is that those numbers mean).  Is it simply changing out the cogs or are we talking a lot of other changes also?  Please be kind, my closest bike shop is 150 miles each way and though I can change a tube now and clean a chain... that is about the extent of my technical skills.  And for those that have the slightly hilliear gear set, does it help on the hills?  I can make it up the hills now, but I can't help thinking that just a touch faster cadence in a larger gear (meaning easier to pedal) would help.  Any thoughts welcome, thanks.

Oh and how do you know when your chain needs to be replaced?  I think it may be time, but wanted to know.  Bah I need a local bike shop 8).

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2010-05-19 10:53 AM
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Been lurking on the site for a while and thought I'd respond to Baowolf on gearing.  My 2009 Felt B-16 that I've been riding for 4 months came with a standard 10 speed cassette- 12-25 with a 53/39 on the front.  I'm considering a similar move - switching to a shimano 12-27 or 11-28  to enable me to stay in the saddle or basically give me a "bail out" gear.  From what I've read on slowtwitch and a couple other places, this might involve upgrading to a slightly longer chain - but should not necessitate a derailleur change.  I could mistaken though.  For this course, and my average cycling abilities, I'm thinking the 11-28 cassette will do the trick for me, especially on the second loop when my legs are a wee bit tired.  Long story short - might be worth a 150 mile drive to the closest LBS.

Thanks for all who have been posting information on the race and courseas I'm sure a lot of registrants are following this thread.  Looks like water temp should be "comfortable" come race day........
2010-05-19 10:58 AM
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Ya I am just trying to figure out how to get a 300 mile drive in while biking 100 miles and running 1 hour on the same day and allowing them the time to do the work on a weekend when their tech. might not be in. 
2010-05-19 11:58 AM
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Baowolf - good to hear you're back on your feet again!

By no means am I an expert on bikes, but I know the numbers refer to teeth count in the smallest and largest sprockets in the cassette.  There's some good info here:
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/k7.html

If this isn't what you're looking for, you're bound to find it somewhere on the site.

FWIW, I run 11-23 (with a "standard" 53-39 up front) and was fine at Oceanside, which seems to have steeper climbs than CDA.  I am not good at sitting and spinning up hills (perhaps due to my gearing?), so I stand on pretty much any climb.  I just feel like I want to get em over with as soon as possible and the leverage from standing makes it feel easier to me.

I'm also going to change out the chain on my TT bike a couple of weeks before the race.  I'm not sure I know when it's time, but I don't think I want to find out.  I'll just swap it out early to allow for some teething time.

Apparently, the whole issue of chain maintenance has been a topic of debate throughout the years: http://sheldonbrown.com/chains.html

Good luck!
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