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2009-08-11 11:08 AM
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This is a question for anybody who did the B2B Half or Full last year.

The bottle exchanges on the bike offer both water and Heed. I know the Heed comes in "bike bottles" but the water is supposedly given out in Deer Park Sport Cap bottles. Are these the same Deer Park bottles you get at your local 7/11? I want to know if they fit properly into a standard bike cage? I do not use an aerodrink system so will not be able to empty into anything and need to use the water from the bottle.

Hope this makes sense.

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2009-08-11 11:14 AM
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Didn't do the race last year BUT if the water comes in the Deer Park sport top bottles they should fit into a standard bottle cage---I've used those to start races (so that I can throw the bottle and not care) and they fit well enough.....
2009-08-13 9:18 AM
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Sporty_Girl585 - 2009-07-22 10:13 AM

I'm not a strong swimmer though and have never swam in the ocean and I think that is what has me hesitant on doing it this year.

Brittany


The thing that intrigued me most about the B2B was the point to point swim with the current since swimming is my weakest discipline. Also, the swim in not technically in the ocean, but in the inter coastal waterway. The extra buoyancy of the saltwater and the wetsuit along with swimming with the current makes for some fast swim times.
2009-08-13 11:54 AM
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rgretsof - 2009-08-13 10:18 AM

Sporty_Girl585 - 2009-07-22 10:13 AM

I'm not a strong swimmer though and have never swam in the ocean and I think that is what has me hesitant on doing it this year.

Brittany


The thing that intrigued me most about the B2B was the point to point swim with the current since swimming is my weakest discipline. Also, the swim in not technically in the ocean, but in the inter coastal waterway. The extra buoyancy of the saltwater and the wetsuit along with swimming with the current makes for some fast swim times.


Me too!
2009-08-14 4:33 PM
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keyone - 2009-08-13 11:54 AM

rgretsof - 2009-08-13 10:18 AM

Sporty_Girl585 - 2009-07-22 10:13 AM

I'm not a strong swimmer though and have never swam in the ocean and I think that is what has me hesitant on doing it this year.

Brittany


The thing that intrigued me most about the B2B was the point to point swim with the current since swimming is my weakest discipline. Also, the swim in not technically in the ocean, but in the inter coastal waterway. The extra buoyancy of the saltwater and the wetsuit along with swimming with the current makes for some fast swim times.


Me too!


A BTer did it in 43 minutes last year. Granted he's already an incredibly fast swimmer but, dayum.
2009-08-14 4:56 PM
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Doing the half this year, did the full last year...don't waste alot of time training for the swim, run as much as you can, especially hill repeats.



2009-08-14 6:16 PM
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I thought the run was basically flat beisdes crossing the bridges.  Does that really add to the hilly factor that much?  I'm not familiar with the area and not sure what to expect.

2009-08-14 7:22 PM
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Ya, I was thinking it was just a few bridges too. I photoshopped the elevation profiles of B2B 1/2 and Duke 1/2 to compare. Duke 1/2 is known for it hellaciously hilly run. B2B looks to be maybe 50% as bad as Duke, which is pretty hilly!



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2009-08-15 10:10 PM
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keyone - 2009-08-14 8:22 PM Ya, I was thinking it was just a few bridges too. I photoshopped the elevation profiles of B2B 1/2 and Duke 1/2 to compare. Duke 1/2 is known for it hellaciously hilly run. B2B looks to be maybe 50% as bad as Duke, which is pretty hilly!


More like 20% "as bad as Duke".  Per your graphs there are fewer "hills" and look at the y-axis (left side) the feet of elevation change is half or less.  In my opinion.  And I dread running hills.
2009-08-15 10:14 PM
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Anyone interested in doing a group ride of the B2B bike course (56 miles) over Labor Day weekend?

Anyone know of a local group which rides the course on any regular basis? 

I saw the CFC Hot 100 on 9/6.  Are the loops they're doing on the same roads? 

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2009-08-18 12:18 PM
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Atlanta Bill, I'd be intrested!  we live 2 hours from there in Raleigh but we have several friends there so we can kill many birds and I need saddle time.  Im at 919-523-7739.  I know there are tons of other here that will join in.  "grkid" is doing  B2B and we ride together so I bet he would be a taker as well.


2009-08-18 2:15 PM
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There is a group of us doing the Pier 2 Pier swim on September 12th followed by a 90 mile bike ride on the race course.  The swim is 1.7 miles at Wrightsville Beach, good chance to swim in race conditions.  Here is the link for the swim site.  http://www.pier-2-pier.com/
2009-08-18 4:28 PM
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tahrens - 2009-08-18 3:15 PM

There is a group of us doing the Pier 2 Pier swim on September 12th followed by a 90 mile bike ride on the race course.  The swim is 1.7 miles at Wrightsville Beach, good chance to swim in race conditions.  Here is the link for the swim site.  http://www.pier-2-pier.com/


"Pier to Pier" makes me think of sharks = Somehow the Intracoastal waterway swim of B2B sounds safer to me, lol!

I might like to join you guys...I noticed the race fees for the swim goes up almost double on August 28th, so I better decide by then, huh? Are you riding immediately after the swim, as in a brick? I need to work out a headache problem I get on the bike during races, so a swim/bike brick would be good. Are you all staying overnight someplace?
2009-08-19 6:50 AM
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Keyone, the sharks will only make you swim faster. No bonk with a shark on your six!

As for the hills on B2B, the largest one is 44' vertical, BAH. I would agree with Nuthouse, that a huge focus should be placed on the bike/run. The current will push you big time, and should make you feel like a long HIM swim.

The bike will set up the run, and the more miles you have logged running the more you will be able to call on later in the marathon (after that rubber feeling is out).
2009-08-22 7:43 PM
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Just saw this in the B2B newsletter

BIKE AND RUN COURSE UPDATES
The 2008 Beach2Battleship event was a huge success. The City of Wilmington and the Town of Wrightsville Beach embraced the event and made it a pleasure for the 1,000+ athletes involved. The 2008 edition also opened the eyes of the city to the scope and magnitude of the event. Very few anticipated the traffic gridlock caused by the winding courses that circled the entire city of Wilmington.

With that in mind for 2009, Beach2Battleship and City officials have finalized the implementation of several changes to the courses. While the Swim course will remain unchanged, the bike and run courses will undergo significant changes in order to lessen the impact on movement in and around Wrightsville Beach and Wilmington.

The new course maps will be posted to the Beach2Battleship site very soon, but in the mean time, here are a few of the changes athletes will see in 2009.

* The bike course will no longer start by coming into Wilmington via MLK Blvd. from the Beach. Rather, athletes will make a right hand turn off of MLK near the beach before heading onto a closed lane of Interstate I-140, then onto Hwy 421 as shown on the current map. This change will eliminate one bridge crossing and create a much safer route for motorists and athletes alike.
* The run course will change from a 13.1 mile loop to a 6.55 mile out and back run, utilizing the first 6.55 miles of the 2008 run course. The new run course will also eliminate a bridge crossing creating a much faster and safer course. This change will also eliminate traffic gridlock by providing a free flowing exit from the downtown area via the Memorial Bridge. Also, trolleys will be able to move in and out of the Battleship Memorial to supplement the river boats in transporting athletes and spectators from downtown to the finish line area.
2009-08-23 10:49 AM
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Bike and Run Course Updates:

So now the marathon run is two 6.55 mile out and backs; I hate out and backs! Not having seen the course, did they cut out the run through the park that everyone said was so nice? I do understand why they did it, so no complaints there.


2009-08-23 11:04 AM
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I wasn't quite thrilled with the thought of out and backs but looking at the course from last year it shouldn't be a big deal.  If it runs out 6.55 miles it looks like it ends along side of Greenfield Lake so if that's the park area you'll still see part of it I would guess.

Here's a link to the course from last year:  http://www.mapmyride.com/run/united-states/nc/wilmington/933862469

Now that I'll be running by the house were renting four times can the wife had me off cold drinks?  I figure it might work out good for her so she can see me a 2 or 3 times before heading back to the finish area and still having some comforts of our rental.

2009-08-23 12:07 PM
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For IM Louisville we had the out and backs of about the same distance.  It actually breaks the run up nicely into 4 6 milers which is mentally a little better than 2 x 13 - I guess in the end it's all 26 miles but I like to play the mental #'s while I'm running the race!  The first part of the out and back is a bit blah, not much to look at but after you get through the first 3 miles it's nice!

2009-08-24 8:00 AM
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I really like the idea of having two out & backs. That breaks the marathon up into four parts. Much easlier for my brain to handle, and I can mentally track progress on the run.
2009-08-24 8:12 AM
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Coldfire - 2009-08-24 8:00 AM

I really like the idea of having two out & backs. That breaks the marathon up into four parts. Much easlier for my brain to handle, and I can mentally track progress on the run.


Plus you get to see spectators. And let's face it, seeing familiar friendly faces who are encouraging you to trudge on can't hurt after that many hours.
2009-08-24 8:37 AM
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At first I was a little disappointed at the out and back...then I thought about it and read the comments here and think it sounds pretty good!!  Also doesn't hurt that set-up has made changes to keep the area/residents happy.


2009-08-24 8:51 AM
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If the turnaround point after you complete the first lap is all the way back at T2 it means you have run the two bridges each time you head back out. That's not a hysterical big deal but it will definitely slow things down a little.

I hope I misunderstand what they have planned for the run because the part through Greenfield Park was the nicest part of the run...

OTOH, it sounds like the bike course won't have the bridge with the metal grating...No fooling, those grates were not made with bicycles in mind...
2009-08-24 9:37 AM
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mr2tony - 2009-08-24 9:12 AM

Coldfire - 2009-08-24 8:00 AM

I really like the idea of having two out & backs. That breaks the marathon up into four parts. Much easlier for my brain to handle, and I can mentally track progress on the run.


Plus you get to see spectators. And let's face it, seeing familiar friendly faces who are encouraging you to trudge on can't hurt after that many hours.


Agreed

Seeing them is a free energy burst.

2009-09-05 7:25 AM
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Hi everyone! I'm thinking about signing up for the B2B. I just finished Louisville and am feeling like I need one more IM distance race this year. I'm on the fence because I won't have any jockstrappers coming with me. After KY I needed my wife to get my S/B gear and make sure I got back to the hotel ok.
How is the post race aid for this one? I've read a few RR from last year and it seems like an awesome race but I didn't find anything on post race help. Anyone have any info?
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2009-09-05 11:59 AM
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Last year we stayed at the beach, really easy to get to the swim start, but the post race made it tough as we had to drive back.  This time we are staying downtown on the river right across from the battleship.  The bad part of the race last year was they didn't have enough water taxis to get people across the water from the battleship (finish line) to the hotel area but it sounds like they have fixed that this year.  

So, long and short of it is that if you stay waterfront downtown all you have to do is grab your stuff from the TA right by the finish & ride the water taxi back to the hotel.  Not nearly as involved as Lousiville!!

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