Fred D Mentor Group - Part II (Page 51)

Suggestion : substitute some of the workouts with Sufferfests. There are some that map pretty well to Jorge's plan.

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Edited by TankBoy 2012-08-29 11:00 AM

tuesday and thursday 1-1.5 hours on the trainer per day. One day hard intervals, one day longer intervals (ex. Revolver/Downward Spiral then HHNF or Local Hero)   Sat and Sunday will be longer endurance rides with typical attacks, sprints, segment hunting etc.

two things happened last year that i will not ride in the dark because of. First was my buddy doing a route we did dozens of times, turned in to a corner too early in the dark and ended up crashing, he was ok fortunately. Second was last year when a guy in a BMW at twilight almost hit me head on as i was going through a green light intersection as he ran through a light making a turn on his way to work at 6am.  I will no longer ride at twilight or dark.

this prompted me to look at my numbers this year. Even though the year is not yet complete, My overall volume is up compared to last year. So far this year I have averaged a little less than 12 hours per week. 42 of those hours were strength training, twice as much as last year. my bike volume already exceeds last years total by roughly 22% in both time and distance. My run is 5% more by time but about 5% less by distance as a good bit of my "running" was actually walking while recovering from injury. Perhaps most interestingly though my swim this year is 23% more by distance but less than 14% more by time. Some of that has to do with getting faster of course, but it is mostly from not increasing my frequency of swimming but instead just bumping up the distance an intensity of my main set. I found this to be much more efficient from a time standpoint.

FWIW, I shaved 40ish minutes off my time at LP over last year year. Even though most of my time gains were made on the bike and run, I still attribute a lot of it to the fitness from the longer/harder swimming. It had to be a considerable contributor to the run at least. Of course it is no substitute - based on my lack of running this year I think I have the biggest gains to be made there if I can stay healthy. Swimming will continue to be a part of my run plan for this year though. I am a believer.

LOL...I love Strava

Nope, once i am off my bike outside, there is no way i am getting on a trainer. If i get cut short, oh well, i will make the next workout count.

Rusty, one thing to keep in mind, most of my races, even when i was doing a half iron, were in the 2.5 hour range or shorter, so if i only got 2 of a 4 hour ride, it really did not impact me much. If i had to do 112 in 5.5-7 hours, then my outlook might change on getting on the trainer and finishing a couple hours to complete a workout.

we all know i am not the most orthodox or diligent.

I did once when it was getting dark.  It sucked.  

Once November rolls around, I will be pretty much 100% on the trainer until the end of march/early april unless we have some sort of freak weather.

Same for me.  I get to the tipping point where I go one way or another...never considered a "hybrid".

I could see myself warming up on the trainer and then going out. But I never did it.

Does your weather ever change????

The evolution of a tri talk thread

Q. I'm a newbie that has no clue but I think that [X] makes no sense, should I do it anyway?

A..  It's stupid/against the law/ill advised/moronic

[14 pages of OP defending their position against al logic]

Q. Wow, as the OP I never thought people would react so strongly.  I am through with this thread.

LOL. 

Aww, I was only on page two, you ruined the ending!!!

hahaha - i waded in *facepalm*

Very amusing part of my afternoon ...

I always like that - lots of people with tons of experience telling you its a dumb idea in a pretty gentle way but you think you're so right the law is going to be overturned.  hrm.

Don't forget the part where the person who posted The Answer gets banned.

Not really.  The only thing that changes is sunlight.  By October, I'll only have about 30-40 minutes to ride after work before it gets dark.  November to January...it's dark when I step out of the office.  On weekends, I have no excuse unless there is some type of freak rain storm.

That's not an excuse where I live

Ahh yes, I wasn't thinking about hours of daylight.  That makes sense.