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2014-03-31 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by BrotherTri How was everybody's weekend? - - - - - I finished off a rest week with 3 day of training in the rain. 10 hours for the week was maybe a bit much but ez. I am now moving into another high volume week what maybe a mix of sun and rain.

I'm really excited about my weekend training.  I managed a 10 mile run (at a reasonable pace for me) quite comfortably on Saturday.  On Sunday, I drove 90 minutes north to find some hills....and planned for a ride with as steady power as I could manage at my projected race power.  I did 66 miles and even though my body was ready to be off the bike, it seemed like it wanted to get off so I could run.  I had a great 4 mile run after the ride!  Long run, long ride followed by a short run = starting to feel good about my race.

Sounds like some solid training! And a good time to start feeling good about the race!



2014-03-31 1:30 PM
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And here is my RACE REPORT

Knew you were plenty fast to get there, just a question of having the energy that day with all the mileage.

Also, on the positive thinking part, I think you still were late in there as you gave yourself something to do. Your thought was "go to work ... " instead of "don't be a ...", which makes a difference to me as the first gives you something to go after instead of trying to avoid. Things aren't always cheerful, but to me it's really something to note. I do much better as well with a target to chase. May be another reason I like to start off a little easier too.

2014-03-31 1:34 PM
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Originally posted by Asalzwed

And here is my RACE REPORT

Knew you were plenty fast to get there, just a question of having the energy that day with all the mileage.

Also, on the positive thinking part, I think you still were late in there as you gave yourself something to do. Your thought was "go to work ... " instead of "don't be a ...", which makes a difference to me as the first gives you something to go after instead of trying to avoid. Things aren't always cheerful, but to me it's really something to note. I do much better as well with a target to chase. May be another reason I like to start off a little easier too.

Thanks, Ben.

Yeah, under normal circumstances I wouldn't have really worried about that standard. It isn't TOO tough. But trying to multi-task  a workout AND hitting the standard was where I was getting a little overwhelmed.

Interesting comment about the chase, too. I was trying to think exactly why I like a more negative split approach. I know it's not the BEST way to race but there is something really comforting about starting easy then "going to work" especially, as you said, when there is someone to chase. * ALSO, I am not quite touch enough (yet) to go out too fast and still salvage a good race out of it.

I have a lot to learn about running on the track though I imagine it's a lot like doing swim meets. 

 

 



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2014-03-31 2:01 PM
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Originally posted by Asalzwed

Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by Asalzwed

And here is my RACE REPORT

Knew you were plenty fast to get there, just a question of having the energy that day with all the mileage.

Also, on the positive thinking part, I think you still were late in there as you gave yourself something to do. Your thought was "go to work ... " instead of "don't be a ...", which makes a difference to me as the first gives you something to go after instead of trying to avoid. Things aren't always cheerful, but to me it's really something to note. I do much better as well with a target to chase. May be another reason I like to start off a little easier too.

Thanks, Ben.

Yeah, under normal circumstances I wouldn't have really worried about that standard. It isn't TOO tough. But trying to multi-task  a workout AND hitting the standard was where I was getting a little overwhelmed.

Interesting comment about the chase, too. I was trying to think exactly why I like a more negative split approach. I know it's not the BEST way to race but there is something really comforting about starting easy then "going to work" especially, as you said, when there is someone to chase. * ALSO, I am not quite touch enough (yet) to go out too fast and still salvage a good race out of it.

I have a lot to learn about running on the track though I imagine it's a lot like doing swim meets. 

 

 

I didn't realize it til the end but think I was holding my breath while reading the report (even tho I knew how it ended.....).  Now I'm tired

2014-03-31 2:32 PM
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Originally posted by ChrisM

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by Asalzwed

And here is my RACE REPORT

Knew you were plenty fast to get there, just a question of having the energy that day with all the mileage.

Also, on the positive thinking part, I think you still were late in there as you gave yourself something to do. Your thought was "go to work ... " instead of "don't be a ...", which makes a difference to me as the first gives you something to go after instead of trying to avoid. Things aren't always cheerful, but to me it's really something to note. I do much better as well with a target to chase. May be another reason I like to start off a little easier too.

Thanks, Ben.

Yeah, under normal circumstances I wouldn't have really worried about that standard. It isn't TOO tough. But trying to multi-task  a workout AND hitting the standard was where I was getting a little overwhelmed.

Interesting comment about the chase, too. I was trying to think exactly why I like a more negative split approach. I know it's not the BEST way to race but there is something really comforting about starting easy then "going to work" especially, as you said, when there is someone to chase. * ALSO, I am not quite touch enough (yet) to go out too fast and still salvage a good race out of it.

I have a lot to learn about running on the track though I imagine it's a lot like doing swim meets. 

 

 

I didn't realize it til the end but think I was holding my breath while reading the report (even tho I knew how it ended.....).  Now I'm tired

Yes...great report.  Even made me think about going for a run...almost.  

2014-03-31 2:33 PM
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Originally posted by Jason N

Originally posted by ChrisM

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by Asalzwed

And here is my RACE REPORT

Knew you were plenty fast to get there, just a question of having the energy that day with all the mileage.

Also, on the positive thinking part, I think you still were late in there as you gave yourself something to do. Your thought was "go to work ... " instead of "don't be a ...", which makes a difference to me as the first gives you something to go after instead of trying to avoid. Things aren't always cheerful, but to me it's really something to note. I do much better as well with a target to chase. May be another reason I like to start off a little easier too.

Thanks, Ben.

Yeah, under normal circumstances I wouldn't have really worried about that standard. It isn't TOO tough. But trying to multi-task  a workout AND hitting the standard was where I was getting a little overwhelmed.

Interesting comment about the chase, too. I was trying to think exactly why I like a more negative split approach. I know it's not the BEST way to race but there is something really comforting about starting easy then "going to work" especially, as you said, when there is someone to chase. * ALSO, I am not quite touch enough (yet) to go out too fast and still salvage a good race out of it.

I have a lot to learn about running on the track though I imagine it's a lot like doing swim meets. 

 

 

I didn't realize it til the end but think I was holding my breath while reading the report (even tho I knew how it ended.....).  Now I'm tired

Yes...great report.  Even made me think about going for a run...almost.  

I was tired writing it. But then again, I'm 30 now so that must be it.

 

You should run, I rode my bike on Friday! 



2014-03-31 2:57 PM
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In an ideal situation, you will do all of the following:
1)run sub39:50 and qualify for Nats (sub6:25pace)
2)feel 'good' about the race and how you ran it-however that may be, and at sub40, it will be a PR, so that will help, right?
3)recover fast enough to get back on track with the final bits of the M training block for your 'A' race without getting injured or overly fatigued



Congratulations, Salty.
Very nice race. Hit all 3 goals, IMO.

Happy b-day!
2014-03-31 3:17 PM
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Originally posted by Asalzwed

Originally posted by Jason N

Originally posted by ChrisM

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by Asalzwed

And here is my RACE REPORT

Knew you were plenty fast to get there, just a question of having the energy that day with all the mileage.

Also, on the positive thinking part, I think you still were late in there as you gave yourself something to do. Your thought was "go to work ... " instead of "don't be a ...", which makes a difference to me as the first gives you something to go after instead of trying to avoid. Things aren't always cheerful, but to me it's really something to note. I do much better as well with a target to chase. May be another reason I like to start off a little easier too.

Thanks, Ben.

Yeah, under normal circumstances I wouldn't have really worried about that standard. It isn't TOO tough. But trying to multi-task  a workout AND hitting the standard was where I was getting a little overwhelmed.

Interesting comment about the chase, too. I was trying to think exactly why I like a more negative split approach. I know it's not the BEST way to race but there is something really comforting about starting easy then "going to work" especially, as you said, when there is someone to chase. * ALSO, I am not quite touch enough (yet) to go out too fast and still salvage a good race out of it.

I have a lot to learn about running on the track though I imagine it's a lot like doing swim meets. 

 

 

I didn't realize it til the end but think I was holding my breath while reading the report (even tho I knew how it ended.....).  Now I'm tired

Yes...great report.  Even made me think about going for a run...almost.  

I was tired writing it. But then again, I'm 30 now so that must be it.

 

You should run, I rode my bike on Friday! 

geez, before you know it people in this group might start doing triathalons and whatnot!

2014-03-31 3:31 PM
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Originally posted by ChrisM

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Originally posted by Jason N

Originally posted by ChrisM

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by Asalzwed

And here is my RACE REPORT

Knew you were plenty fast to get there, just a question of having the energy that day with all the mileage.

Also, on the positive thinking part, I think you still were late in there as you gave yourself something to do. Your thought was "go to work ... " instead of "don't be a ...", which makes a difference to me as the first gives you something to go after instead of trying to avoid. Things aren't always cheerful, but to me it's really something to note. I do much better as well with a target to chase. May be another reason I like to start off a little easier too.

Thanks, Ben.

Yeah, under normal circumstances I wouldn't have really worried about that standard. It isn't TOO tough. But trying to multi-task  a workout AND hitting the standard was where I was getting a little overwhelmed.

Interesting comment about the chase, too. I was trying to think exactly why I like a more negative split approach. I know it's not the BEST way to race but there is something really comforting about starting easy then "going to work" especially, as you said, when there is someone to chase. * ALSO, I am not quite touch enough (yet) to go out too fast and still salvage a good race out of it.

I have a lot to learn about running on the track though I imagine it's a lot like doing swim meets. 

 

 

I didn't realize it til the end but think I was holding my breath while reading the report (even tho I knew how it ended.....).  Now I'm tired

Yes...great report.  Even made me think about going for a run...almost.  

I was tired writing it. But then again, I'm 30 now so that must be it.

 

You should run, I rode my bike on Friday! 

geez, before you know it people in this group might start doing triathalons and whatnot!

crazy talk!

2014-03-31 3:48 PM
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Originally posted by ChrisM

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by Asalzwed

And here is my RACE REPORT

Knew you were plenty fast to get there, just a question of having the energy that day with all the mileage.

Also, on the positive thinking part, I think you still were late in there as you gave yourself something to do. Your thought was "go to work ... " instead of "don't be a ...", which makes a difference to me as the first gives you something to go after instead of trying to avoid. Things aren't always cheerful, but to me it's really something to note. I do much better as well with a target to chase. May be another reason I like to start off a little easier too.

Thanks, Ben.

Yeah, under normal circumstances I wouldn't have really worried about that standard. It isn't TOO tough. But trying to multi-task  a workout AND hitting the standard was where I was getting a little overwhelmed.

Interesting comment about the chase, too. I was trying to think exactly why I like a more negative split approach. I know it's not the BEST way to race but there is something really comforting about starting easy then "going to work" especially, as you said, when there is someone to chase. * ALSO, I am not quite touch enough (yet) to go out too fast and still salvage a good race out of it.

I have a lot to learn about running on the track though I imagine it's a lot like doing swim meets. 

 

 

I didn't realize it til the end but think I was holding my breath while reading the report (even tho I knew how it ended.....).  Now I'm tired

I was doing the exact same thing! 

Amazing race report....it was set up so perfectly to be a cliff hanger (like TV shows where they get to the best part and then they're all like, "to be continued")....and then sweet, sweet victory.  Huge congrats, Adrienne!  Your running and race reports are such a treat to follow.

2014-03-31 3:54 PM
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Originally posted by ChrisM

Originally posted by ligersandtions

Originally posted by BrotherTri How was everybody's weekend? - - - - - I finished off a rest week with 3 day of training in the rain. 10 hours for the week was maybe a bit much but ez. I am now moving into another high volume week what maybe a mix of sun and rain.

I'm really excited about my weekend training.  I managed a 10 mile run (at a reasonable pace for me) quite comfortably on Saturday.  On Sunday, I drove 90 minutes north to find some hills....and planned for a ride with as steady power as I could manage at my projected race power.  I did 66 miles and even though my body was ready to be off the bike, it seemed like it wanted to get off so I could run.  I had a great 4 mile run after the ride!  Long run, long ride followed by a short run = starting to feel good about my race.

Great news Nicole, solid weekend.   Just a heads up....   70.3 worlds slots apparently rolled way (as in waaaaaay) down at Oceanside for most of the men's ags.  Read that that M40-44 slots rolled all the way down to 5:47 finish, just went and checked that's like 140+ AG......  Not sure about the wimminz, but in cae you were interested at all.   Concensus seems to be that there may be a big rolldown at St G as well.

Oooohhhh....now don't go getting my hopes up!!  Honestly, 70.3 worlds is a goal for a few years down the road.  I know that my running is not where I need it to be (and realistically, I have a couple more minutes that I can improve on the swim, and probably 10-15 on the bike, but the running is my low hanging fruit).  And with all the talk in here about Mont-Tremblant, it's on my very short list of potential races for next year.

But if I could somehow snag a spot this year, even with a huge roll down, I think I'd take it.  A goal race and a course I really want to race at?  I couldn't pass that up!  I can only imagine the excitement there....and maybe I'd get to meet some of the studs here who will (or already have!) qualified.



2014-03-31 4:01 PM
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Originally posted by Asalzwed

Originally posted by ChrisM

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Originally posted by Jason N

Originally posted by ChrisM

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by Asalzwed

And here is my RACE REPORT

Knew you were plenty fast to get there, just a question of having the energy that day with all the mileage.

Also, on the positive thinking part, I think you still were late in there as you gave yourself something to do. Your thought was "go to work ... " instead of "don't be a ...", which makes a difference to me as the first gives you something to go after instead of trying to avoid. Things aren't always cheerful, but to me it's really something to note. I do much better as well with a target to chase. May be another reason I like to start off a little easier too.

Thanks, Ben.

Yeah, under normal circumstances I wouldn't have really worried about that standard. It isn't TOO tough. But trying to multi-task  a workout AND hitting the standard was where I was getting a little overwhelmed.

Interesting comment about the chase, too. I was trying to think exactly why I like a more negative split approach. I know it's not the BEST way to race but there is something really comforting about starting easy then "going to work" especially, as you said, when there is someone to chase. * ALSO, I am not quite touch enough (yet) to go out too fast and still salvage a good race out of it.

I have a lot to learn about running on the track though I imagine it's a lot like doing swim meets. 

 

 

I didn't realize it til the end but think I was holding my breath while reading the report (even tho I knew how it ended.....).  Now I'm tired

Yes...great report.  Even made me think about going for a run...almost.  

I was tired writing it. But then again, I'm 30 now so that must be it.

 

You should run, I rode my bike on Friday! 

geez, before you know it people in this group might start doing triathalons and whatnot!

crazy talk!

I rode my bike in the rain today.  I'm calling it an aqua bike.

2014-03-31 5:56 PM
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I referenced it above in a post to Nicole, but any thoughts as to the fact that Reilly was basically giving away 70.3 WC slots to anyone that breathed at the rolldown ceremony this weekend?  I know it was like that for Clearwater.  Vegas seemed to change that and make it a hot ticket (pun intended).  I have heard so many great things about MT, and the venue, and thought that it would be an even hotter ticket.

Can't be timing, it's not until September

Cost?  Probably has something to do with it, as it's an expensive trip to Montreal.  But these are triathletes we're talking about.  We generally have money

Prestige? 

Ease of course?  [not that MT is easy, but probably not as hard as vegas]

It's not "vegas"?

O'side is traditionally a VERY competitive race as it's seen as the start of the season. 



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Yeah, I don't get it either.

2014-03-31 6:11 PM
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Are all races considered qualifiers or just certain races?

2014-03-31 6:11 PM
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When they added slots for the Timberman race last season, the number of entrants jumped considerably (it was, I think, one of the first at which one could qualify).  And, looking at the finishing times compared to the year before, they were considerably stronger in many age groups (which I attribute to the above, as they did not roll down far in most age groups).

I wonder whats up.  Is the blush off the WTC rose?  Seems hard to believe (what with IronMan being the only "real" triathlons in lots of people minds).

Curious...

Matt



2014-03-31 6:11 PM
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Originally posted by Asalzwed

Are all races considered qualifiers or just certain races?

All 70.3s have 70.3 WC slots

2014-03-31 6:15 PM
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Originally posted by ChrisM

I referenced it above in a post to Nicole, but any thoughts as to the fact that Reilly was basically giving away 70.3 WC slots to anyone that breathed at the rolldown ceremony this weekend?  I know it was like that for Clearwater.  Vegas seemed to change that and make it a hot ticket (pun intended).  I have heard so many great things about MT, and the venue, and thought that it would be an even hotter ticket.

Can't be timing, it's not until September

Cost?  Probably has something to do with it, as it's an expensive trip to Montreal.  But these are triathletes we're talking about.  We generally have money

Prestige? 

Ease of course?  [not that MT is easy, but probably not as hard as vegas]

It's not "vegas"?

O'side is traditionally a VERY competitive race as it's seen as the start of the season. 

My guess is that travel distance and cost played a bigger factor.  Clearwater and Mont Tremblant are both lengthy trips from California...so if WC spots were rolling down far for Clearwater, I'm not surprised they are rolling far for Mont Tremblant either.  Vegas of course makes it a lot easier for California athletes to take the spot.

I would suspect that St. George has the potential to roll down a bit as well...but the north eastern 70.3's later in the year (once the snow melts ) not so much.

2014-03-31 7:41 PM
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Originally posted by ChrisM

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Are all races considered qualifiers or just certain races?

All 70.3s have 70.3 WC slots

The amounts can vary, but yes.

2014-03-31 7:44 PM
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Originally posted by Jason N

Originally posted by ChrisM

I referenced it above in a post to Nicole, but any thoughts as to the fact that Reilly was basically giving away 70.3 WC slots to anyone that breathed at the rolldown ceremony this weekend?  I know it was like that for Clearwater.  Vegas seemed to change that and make it a hot ticket (pun intended).  I have heard so many great things about MT, and the venue, and thought that it would be an even hotter ticket.

Can't be timing, it's not until September

Cost?  Probably has something to do with it, as it's an expensive trip to Montreal.  But these are triathletes we're talking about.  We generally have money

Prestige? 

Ease of course?  [not that MT is easy, but probably not as hard as vegas]

It's not "vegas"?

O'side is traditionally a VERY competitive race as it's seen as the start of the season. 

My guess is that travel distance and cost played a bigger factor.  Clearwater and Mont Tremblant are both lengthy trips from California...so if WC spots were rolling down far for Clearwater, I'm not surprised they are rolling far for Mont Tremblant either.  Vegas of course makes it a lot easier for California athletes to take the spot.

I would suspect that St. George has the potential to roll down a bit as well...but the north eastern 70.3's later in the year (once the snow melts ) not so much.

Is it more those just two races? If so I'd lean towards that. Any others having notable roll-down?

2014-03-31 9:05 PM
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Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by ChrisM

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Are all races considered qualifiers or just certain races?

All 70.3s have 70.3 WC slots

The amounts can vary, but yes.

But only WTC branded ones, right? Or does 70.3 necessarily mean WTC (iirc, they trademarked the number)?Silly branding!


2014-03-31 9:39 PM
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Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by Jason N

Originally posted by ChrisM

I referenced it above in a post to Nicole, but any thoughts as to the fact that Reilly was basically giving away 70.3 WC slots to anyone that breathed at the rolldown ceremony this weekend?  I know it was like that for Clearwater.  Vegas seemed to change that and make it a hot ticket (pun intended).  I have heard so many great things about MT, and the venue, and thought that it would be an even hotter ticket.

Can't be timing, it's not until September

Cost?  Probably has something to do with it, as it's an expensive trip to Montreal.  But these are triathletes we're talking about.  We generally have money

Prestige? 

Ease of course?  [not that MT is easy, but probably not as hard as vegas]

It's not "vegas"?

O'side is traditionally a VERY competitive race as it's seen as the start of the season. 

My guess is that travel distance and cost played a bigger factor.  Clearwater and Mont Tremblant are both lengthy trips from California...so if WC spots were rolling down far for Clearwater, I'm not surprised they are rolling far for Mont Tremblant either.  Vegas of course makes it a lot easier for California athletes to take the spot.

I would suspect that St. George has the potential to roll down a bit as well...but the north eastern 70.3's later in the year (once the snow melts ) not so much.

Is it more those just two races? If so I'd lean towards that. Any others having notable roll-down?

I don't know, but I took a really quick look at the M40-44 results and compared 2013 vegas to 2009 Clearwater.  Seems like there is a loose trend that the fastest US athletes tend to be from states closer to the race.  

But it may make sense when you start to think about the fact that the guys who are placing high at 70.3 races, are likely also placing high at IM races.  So often times an athlete is faced with the decision if they can do both races (September and October)...both due to financial impact as well as work and family obligations.  Then you also have training concerns as it's hard to peak for both races.  It's pretty clear that Kona is the more popular choice among WC races...so I can understand if an athlete passes up on 70.3 worlds if requires lengthy travel and higher expenses.

That said...slots were rolling down pretty far from Chris' reports.  I'm not sure why it would roll down that far unless there were a lot of people who would have taken the slot that simply didn't show up to the roll down session because they didn't think they had a chance.

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Originally posted by Jason N

Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by Jason N

Originally posted by ChrisM

I referenced it above in a post to Nicole, but any thoughts as to the fact that Reilly was basically giving away 70.3 WC slots to anyone that breathed at the rolldown ceremony this weekend?  I know it was like that for Clearwater.  Vegas seemed to change that and make it a hot ticket (pun intended).  I have heard so many great things about MT, and the venue, and thought that it would be an even hotter ticket.

Can't be timing, it's not until September

Cost?  Probably has something to do with it, as it's an expensive trip to Montreal.  But these are triathletes we're talking about.  We generally have money

Prestige? 

Ease of course?  [not that MT is easy, but probably not as hard as vegas]

It's not "vegas"?

O'side is traditionally a VERY competitive race as it's seen as the start of the season. 

My guess is that travel distance and cost played a bigger factor.  Clearwater and Mont Tremblant are both lengthy trips from California...so if WC spots were rolling down far for Clearwater, I'm not surprised they are rolling far for Mont Tremblant either.  Vegas of course makes it a lot easier for California athletes to take the spot.

I would suspect that St. George has the potential to roll down a bit as well...but the north eastern 70.3's later in the year (once the snow melts ) not so much.

Is it more those just two races? If so I'd lean towards that. Any others having notable roll-down?

I don't know, but I took a really quick look at the M40-44 results and compared 2013 vegas to 2009 Clearwater.  Seems like there is a loose trend that the fastest US athletes tend to be from states closer to the race.  

But it may make sense when you start to think about the fact that the guys who are placing high at 70.3 races, are likely also placing high at IM races.  So often times an athlete is faced with the decision if they can do both races (September and October)...both due to financial impact as well as work and family obligations.  Then you also have training concerns as it's hard to peak for both races.  It's pretty clear that Kona is the more popular choice among WC races...so I can understand if an athlete passes up on 70.3 worlds if requires lengthy travel and higher expenses.

That said...slots were rolling down pretty far from Chris' reports.  I'm not sure why it would roll down that far unless there were a lot of people who would have taken the slot that simply didn't show up to the roll down session because they didn't think they had a chance.

Yeah, it's going to be from the same crew. I also wonder how many can, and want to, do both trips in the same year. There are certainly those who do it, but when we're looking at a few thousand people it wouldn't be too hard to find at least a couple dozen of a number of traits we could select. And I couldn't name that many in this one. Both those races would be a LOT of commitment.

From being at this the one race, the no-shows are very likely the case. They read off a few names past the auto qualifiers and then just had anybody in that age group come up. So jumping really far is not that surprising once the next few people don't take it as not *that* many people past the auto qualifiers would even be there.



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Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ---- Permanently OPEN!!

Originally posted by mcmanusclan5
Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by ChrisM

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Are all races considered qualifiers or just certain races?

All 70.3s have 70.3 WC slots

The amounts can vary, but yes.

But only WTC branded ones, right? Or does 70.3 necessarily mean WTC (iirc, they trademarked the number)?Silly branding!

Yes, it's only WTC ones. Their championship, so their races. I believe they did trademark the term "70.3" (here), but maybe Chris could clarify if it is or is in the application stage.

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Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ---- Permanently OPEN!!
Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by mcmanusclan5
Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by ChrisM

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Are all races considered qualifiers or just certain races?

All 70.3s have 70.3 WC slots

The amounts can vary, but yes.

But only WTC branded ones, right? Or does 70.3 necessarily mean WTC (iirc, they trademarked the number)?Silly branding!

Yes, it's only WTC ones. Their championship, so their races. I believe they did trademark the term "70.3" (here), but maybe Chris could clarify if it is or is in the application stage.

Yes, WTC owns each of the trademarks on that page
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