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125lbs, 5'8", and average around 22-23mph for 70.3

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eyeofthetiger2007 - 2011-05-09 9:07 AM

when you say windy, do you mean that it is windy enough to not use a rear disc wheel?

If you have one, wind is no reason not to use it. That'll actually help. It's your front wheel that would be screwy with wind.

Then again I'm 220 so wind doesn't bug me all that much other than headwind sapping all the will to live occasionally.

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eyeofthetiger2007 - 2011-05-09 9:51 AM 125lbs, 5'8", and average around 22-23mph for 70.3

125 and you are a male?

I'd say run the disk. It's more of a headwind anyway. The question is I guess at that weight how are your bike handling skills in the wind? I can't really compare anything for ya as I am about 185 lbs so the wind does not scare me at all and I'd run the disk if I didn't just put it on on EBay.... I'll be riding either 808 or H3 on my bike. Every year I've done this course the wind plays out in a similar fashion. You head out of town with this massive tail mind and then there are a few protected sections of the course. Next thing you know you start the return trip back to town and BAM. Big corn field with a huge head wind. I only remember super heavy gusts in 2006. I think that would be grounds to not run the disk.

Way I see it.... Bring all your race wheels. That way you can make a game time decision.

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Yeah I am a male, I am just very lean. You are selling your disc wheel? How much? I currently rent but am in the market to buy

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eyeofthetiger2007 - 2011-05-09 9:57 AM Yeah I am a male, I am just very lean. You are selling your disc wheel? How much? I currently rent but am in the market to buy

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I rode the course as well on Saturday. I'm 140lb and was using Hed Jet 6 front and back. Didn't have a problem with the wind on the day with that set up.

Echo Dan's comments - it was a nice ride. Smithville is part new asphalt - part old, although I think they have done all of the other side of the road. No idea whether they plan to retarmac the final section before the race.

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Smithville was half and half. I rode it on Saturday too. Thats where you turn off the highway. Interestingly it was windy out in the refuge, and where you turn left to go to Goatees, there was a lot of crabs! Someone musta had a loose crate.

The man that was marking the road was just ahead of us the whole ride, it was funny. Literally he'd pull up in front of us and mark the road! So it is freshly marked. Although now there are a ton of little marks everywhere, thanks to the Pillars ride.

Water was extremely warm. I swam last year 2 weeks prior without a wetsuit and had a bad feeling about it being nonwetsuit, and I was right. I have that vibe again this year, so be prepared.

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turtlegirl - 2011-06-01 9:55 AM Smithville was half and half. I rode it on Saturday too. Thats where you turn off the highway. Interestingly it was windy out in the refuge, and where you turn left to go to Goatees, there was a lot of crabs! Someone musta had a loose crate.

The man that was marking the road was just ahead of us the whole ride, it was funny. Literally he'd pull up in front of us and mark the road! So it is freshly marked. Although now there are a ton of little marks everywhere, thanks to the Pillars ride.

Water was extremely warm. I swam last year 2 weeks prior without a wetsuit and had a bad feeling about it being nonwetsuit, and I was right. I have that vibe again this year, so be prepared.

Thanks for the info on the water. I was wondering. Man might be speed suit purchase time....

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gadzooks - 2011-06-01 10:16 AM

turtlegirl - 2011-06-01 9:55 AM Smithville was half and half. I rode it on Saturday too. Thats where you turn off the highway. Interestingly it was windy out in the refuge, and where you turn left to go to Goatees, there was a lot of crabs! Someone musta had a loose crate.

The man that was marking the road was just ahead of us the whole ride, it was funny. Literally he'd pull up in front of us and mark the road! So it is freshly marked. Although now there are a ton of little marks everywhere, thanks to the Pillars ride.

Water was extremely warm. I swam last year 2 weeks prior without a wetsuit and had a bad feeling about it being nonwetsuit, and I was right. I have that vibe again this year, so be prepared.

Thanks for the info on the water. I was wondering. Man might be speed suit purchase time....

I'm almost directly on the opposite side of the bay from Cambridge (live/work on the water). The surface water temp here right now is 77.1 degrees and 10 miles north of here it's 80.1 degrees. In Cambridge on the Choptank it 81.3 at the surface during the last hour. The open bay has a fair amount of deeper water that has yet to warm up, so when we get some decent wind to mix things up we'll probably see that temperature fluctuate (downward), but I think this gives you an idea of how things may be shaping up for race day.

You can check on water temps here:

http://www.umces.edu/cbl/water-quality-data

and here:

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=camm2

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dck4shrt - 2011-06-01 11:56 AM

gadzooks - 2011-06-01 10:16 AM

turtlegirl - 2011-06-01 9:55 AM Smithville was half and half. I rode it on Saturday too. Thats where you turn off the highway. Interestingly it was windy out in the refuge, and where you turn left to go to Goatees, there was a lot of crabs! Someone musta had a loose crate.

The man that was marking the road was just ahead of us the whole ride, it was funny. Literally he'd pull up in front of us and mark the road! So it is freshly marked. Although now there are a ton of little marks everywhere, thanks to the Pillars ride.

Water was extremely warm. I swam last year 2 weeks prior without a wetsuit and had a bad feeling about it being nonwetsuit, and I was right. I have that vibe again this year, so be prepared.

Thanks for the info on the water. I was wondering. Man might be speed suit purchase time....

I'm almost directly on the opposite side of the bay from Cambridge (live/work on the water). The surface water temp here right now is 77.1 degrees and 10 miles north of here it's 80.1 degrees. In Cambridge on the Choptank it 81.3 at the surface during the last hour. The open bay has a fair amount of deeper water that has yet to warm up, so when we get some decent wind to mix things up we'll probably see that temperature fluctuate (downward), but I think this gives you an idea of how things may be shaping up for race day.

You can check on water temps here:

http://www.umces.edu/cbl/water-quality-data

and here:

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=camm2

So you think it's going to be a bit colder for the race? In any event I'd like to be prepared.

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gadzooks - 2011-06-01 12:01 PM

So you think it's going to be a bit colder for the race? In any event I'd like to be prepared.

If you look at this graph you'll see that the trend is upward for the past week, as you'd expect, but there are some periods of time where it cools off (at night, wind mixing, etc). I'd expect that the temps will continue to rise generally, but given that there are some 'cool' fronts forecasted to come through I'd expect that the rate of increase (overall slope) will level out and the amplitude of the temperature drops will increase (bigger decreases in an overall warming trend). It can only get so hot...

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Local Text Forecast for
Cambridge, MD
Jun 12 Sunday
Sunny. Highs in the low 80s and lows in the upper 60s.

So far, so good

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How the hell do they decide which wave goes when? I got royally screwed over this year and do not take off till 8:30!!! Why do the older age groupers get to go before the young guys?

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eyeofthetiger2007 - 2011-06-03 5:01 AM

How the hell do they decide which wave goes when? I got royally screwed over this year and do not take off till 8:30!!! Why do the older age groupers get to go before the young guys?

Got some cheese with that "whine"? ;-) Don't know but you probably won't meet up with a few of the "old" AG folks anyway as there are some pretty fast 50+ AG folks out there... check times from years past. Trust me, a few of them will finish before you or at least will be on the run when you start it. So, I don't think overall you're going to have a problem if you're worried about crowds on the course. The field does spread out a lot and I've not had a problem with a lot of traffic on this course. And just to note, 2 years ago, the 50-54 folks were where you are this year back in 2009 when I did Eman last. I swear, I kidded folks I should've set up a lounge chair and an umbrella I was waiting so long for my wave to start. The good thing about being in the back was that a lot of folks were done and off thet course. The bad thing was that it was just a longer day. Anyway, good luck you young whipper snapper you. ;-)

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In addition to the weather forecast and water temp, folks probably would like to know about sea nettles (i.e. jellyfish) too. This site has problems loading sometimes and it's still experimental. but if it's up, you can zoom into the Cambridge area and see what the current forecast is. Looks like it might be updated weekly:

http://chesapeakebay.noaa.gov/forecasting-sea-nettles

In 2009, we did have folks get hit here and there. More of an annoyance than anything else. Usually there's not enough salinity this time of year to have large amounts of nettles in the Choptank, but they do start sneaking in there during June.

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DanielG - 2011-06-03 3:52 AM

Local Text Forecast for
Cambridge, MD
Jun 12 Sunday
Sunny. Highs in the low 80s and lows in the upper 60s.

So far, so good

Unfortunately, anything out past 7 days is using a lower resolution forecast model, though trends are important to watch. While I start looking at the models now for trends, really won't be able to start pinning down the forecast until this Sunday evening/Monday morning. Just too variable now. The one model I just looked at has showers coming through in the late morning into the afternoon. But it was as you said above when I looked at it yesterday. I'll start posting my weather thoughts next week.

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sbrdave - 2011-06-03 6:51 AM

DanielG - 2011-06-03 3:52 AM

Local Text Forecast for
Cambridge, MD
Jun 12 Sunday
Sunny. Highs in the low 80s and lows in the upper 60s.

So far, so good

Unfortunately, anything out past 7 days is using a lower resolution forecast model, though trends are important to watch. While I start looking at the models now for trends, really won't be able to start pinning down the forecast until this Sunday evening/Monday morning. Just too variable now. The one model I just looked at has showers coming through in the late morning into the afternoon. But it was as you said above when I looked at it yesterday. I'll start posting my weather thoughts next week.

-er- Primarily I was just pointing out that race day was actually ON the long range forecast and that it seems to be within the realm of reason rather than someone putting the HELL setting on and forgetting about it.

We'll find out the actual specifics on race day, until then it's guesswork. I've been a pilot too long to believe long range forecasts and even some tomorrow forecasts.

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Warning: Whine ahead. If you're not interested in a bit of whining, go on to the next post.

I posted this in my logs but considering I'm not the only one dealing with life getting in the way of this race I'll add to the collected misery

Kinda sad in a way about this race. I wanted it to be an A race. Guess not. It's kinda hard to get pumped up about it now. That's showing in my training and logs recently I know.

Dad died in March and that was about 3 weeks of screwed up getting him taken care of. No, I don't begrudge Dad all that, it just exists as "life, other than training". Right as I get back into the swing of things the lady cuts me off and I'm laid out for a few days and have to take it a bit easy for a few weeks. Hell, that's at the peak of build and most of peak. I've come back a bit but I don't have the miles under my butt on the bike for this race.

As long as I can do the bike in about 3 hours I'll beat the cut off. Won't be the first one I've walked but I think I'm going to be able to run a bit as long as it's not at the HELL setting for heat.

The good news is I started this year at around 1:52/100 yds. That's around 1600-1650 yds in 30 minutes. I've been doing 1800 yds in 30 minutes pretty consistently for over a month now, about 1:42/100 yds.

This is going to be a long training day for me. I NEED to get into the swing of things for IMFL in a few weeks, though.

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DanielG - 2011-06-03 7:44 AM

sbrdave - 2011-06-03 6:51 AM

DanielG - 2011-06-03 3:52 AM

Local Text Forecast for
Cambridge, MD
Jun 12 Sunday
Sunny. Highs in the low 80s and lows in the upper 60s.

So far, so good

Unfortunately, anything out past 7 days is using a lower resolution forecast model, though trends are important to watch. While I start looking at the models now for trends, really won't be able to start pinning down the forecast until this Sunday evening/Monday morning. Just too variable now. The one model I just looked at has showers coming through in the late morning into the afternoon. But it was as you said above when I looked at it yesterday. I'll start posting my weather thoughts next week.

-er- Primarily I was just pointing out that race day was actually ON the long range forecast and that it seems to be within the realm of reason rather than someone putting the HELL setting on and forgetting about it.

We'll find out the actual specifics on race day, until then it's guesswork. I've been a pilot too long to believe long range forecasts and even some tomorrow forecasts.

Yeah, I'm with ya. No worries and I've been interested in the "HELL" forecast myself, so I started to look at the long range forecasts a few days ago myself since they came up on the 10-day forecasts charts. But, like you being a pilot who has to keep up with the weather, I've been a weather guy too long as well to believe in long range forecasts. Heck, it's sometimes difficult to believe the 1-day forecast ;-)

Your next post - sorry things haven't worked out and also about your Dad. But, seems like you're readjusting expectations accordingly and also using this for IMFL training. I envy you if you get to go. My plans for completing my first IM distance this year were pushed back to hopefully next year due to training and financial issues this year. Reality of life's events just happen sometimes.

More on weather and racing later and wishin' you a good training day on June 12! Never know...life also hands out some good surprises too!

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sbrdave - 2011-06-03 6:28 AM In addition to the weather forecast and water temp, folks probably would like to know about sea nettles (i.e. jellyfish) too. This site has problems loading sometimes and it's still experimental. but if it's up, you can zoom into the Cambridge area and see what the current forecast is. Looks like it might be updated weekly: http://chesapeakebay.noaa.gov/forecasting-sea-nettlesIn 2009, we did have folks get hit here and there. More of an annoyance than anything else. Usually there's not enough salinity this time of year to have large amounts of nettles in the Choptank, but they do start sneaking in there during June.

The sea nettle forecasting tool is WAY worse at predicting sea nettle abundance/distribution than the 10-day weather forecast is at predicting the weather...

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dck4shrt - 2011-06-03 8:24 AM

sbrdave - 2011-06-03 6:28 AM In addition to the weather forecast and water temp, folks probably would like to know about sea nettles (i.e. jellyfish) too. This site has problems loading sometimes and it's still experimental. but if it's up, you can zoom into the Cambridge area and see what the current forecast is. Looks like it might be updated weekly: http://chesapeakebay.noaa.gov/forecasting-sea-nettlesIn 2009, we did have folks get hit here and there. More of an annoyance than anything else. Usually there's not enough salinity this time of year to have large amounts of nettles in the Choptank, but they do start sneaking in there during June.

The sea nettle forecasting tool is WAY worse at predicting sea nettle abundance/distribution than the 10-day weather forecast is at predicting the weather...

Yeah, but I did say it was experimental. We'll probably hear from folks on Friday who are there about the sea nettle conditions (we did in 2009), but the site is still worth a look.

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DanielG - 2011-06-03 6:46 AM Warning: Whine ahead. If you're not interested in a bit of whining, go on to the next post. I posted this in my logs but considering I'm not the only one dealing with life getting in the way of this race I'll add to the collected misery

Kinda sad in a way about this race. I wanted it to be an A race. Guess not. It's kinda hard to get pumped up about it now. That's showing in my training and logs recently I know. Dad died in March and that was about 3 weeks of screwed up getting him taken care of. No, I don't begrudge Dad all that, it just exists as "life, other than training". Right as I get back into the swing of things the lady cuts me off and I'm laid out for a few days and have to take it a bit easy for a few weeks. Hell, that's at the peak of build and most of peak. I've come back a bit but I don't have the miles under my butt on the bike for this race. As long as I can do the bike in about 3 hours I'll beat the cut off. Won't be the first one I've walked but I think I'm going to be able to run a bit as long as it's not at the HELL setting for heat. The good news is I started this year at around 1:52/100 yds. That's around 1600-1650 yds in 30 minutes. I've been doing 1800 yds in 30 minutes pretty consistently for over a month now, about 1:42/100 yds. This is going to be a long training day for me. I NEED to get into the swing of things for IMFL in a few weeks, though.

sorry about your dad.

and here I was whining about a knee surgery. You have your A race, its in November. Look at this as real IM training. You'll feel the same way in the last 13 miles in the run!

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turtlegirl - 2011-06-03 9:35 AM

sorry about your dad.

and here I was whining about a knee surgery. You have your A race, its in November. Look at this as real IM training. You'll feel the same way in the last 13 miles in the run!

I did B2B full last year so that's not going to be too much a surprise.

Yeah, I pick up the phone to call Dad every now and again. It's weird.

When the lady cut me off after that I went over the handle bars at about 30 MPH. I've been growing skin back on my shoulders and fingers and having bruises heal for the past three weeks or so.

This is going to be an interesting race.

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DanielG - 2011-06-03 9:46 AM

turtlegirl - 2011-06-03 9:35 AM

sorry about your dad.

and here I was whining about a knee surgery. You have your A race, its in November. Look at this as real IM training. You'll feel the same way in the last 13 miles in the run!

I did B2B full last year so that's not going to be too much a surprise.

Yeah, I pick up the phone to call Dad every now and again. It's weird.

When the lady cut me off after that I went over the handle bars at about 30 MPH. I've been growing skin back on my shoulders and fingers and having bruises heal for the past three weeks or so.

This is going to be an interesting race.

I think I read your post earlier about this but even so, I'm wincing at body descriptions above. I sincerely wish a good race/training day for ya!

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