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2010-06-19 7:01 PM in reply to: #2931890 |
Champion 5529 Nashville, TN | Subject: RE: Are you GAY?? AtlRadTech - 2010-06-19 4:36 PM or you could continue to perpetuate the stereotype that men are incapable of apologizing when they are wrong. |
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2010-06-19 11:10 PM in reply to: #2931942 |
Master 1821 | Subject: RE: Are you GAY?? tealeaf - 2010-06-19 5:41 PM AtlRadTech - 2010-06-19 4:36 PM Being a white male isn't as cracked up as people think it is. Um, cry me a river. come on now, he's got a point. i, for one, have always found the stereotyping of white men as powerful and successful businessmen to be incredibly oppressive to us as a people. this generalization unfairly treats white men as one-dimensional, ignoring the fact that white men are powerful and successful at all other sorts of things besides business. straight white male is the new black lesbian. we shall overcome. "People tell me I'm white, and I believe them because police officers call me 'sir'." --Stephen T. Colbert, D.F.A. |
2010-06-20 10:03 AM in reply to: #2932277 |
Pro 4311 Texas | Subject: RE: Are you GAY?? jimbo - 2010-06-19 11:10 PM tealeaf - 2010-06-19 5:41 PM come on now, he's got a point. i, for one, have always found the stereotyping of white men as powerful and successful businessmen to be incredibly oppressive to us as a people. this generalization unfairly treats white men as one-dimensional, ignoring the fact that white men are powerful and successful at all other sorts of things besides business. straight white male is the new black lesbian. we shall overcome. "People tell me I'm white, and I believe them because police officers call me 'sir'." --Stephen T. Colbert, D.F.A.AtlRadTech - 2010-06-19 4:36 PM Being a white male isn't as cracked up as people think it is. Um, cry me a river. I hate that stereotype because I'm not that powerful or successful. |
2010-06-20 12:51 PM in reply to: #2931942 |
Atlanta (BUTThead) | Subject: RE: Are you GAY?? tealeaf - 2010-06-19 5:41 PM And yes I have been to Pride week. I found it very fun and entertaining and hope to go next year. Next year try your joke at Pride Week, and see how it goes over. Then come back to this thread and report how it went. If it ends up being well-received, I stand corrected. Where do you think I get half my material from? And you can't demand to be treated equally then complain when you get made fun of like everyone else on the planet does. We make fun of road bike riders by calling them "road weenies" (not all road bikers are tiny people), we make fun of how white men can't jump (even made a movie about it), triathletes can only swim freestyle (from the swimmers), and people in the military make fun of each other's branches (AF has it easy, Marines are dummies, you are trained to dig ditches in the army, etc). That's just the way life goes. Want to be equal? Don't get so uppity when someone makes a joke. Live, laugh, and love. It's not that hard. I live in the South and there are plenty of good and funny stereotypes about the south. Doing the Tour de Georgia??? Pedal Faster I hear Banjo Music!!! Oh yeah, I must live in a trailer too. Especially if I'm in Alabama with my wife/sister. Also you can't accept a "positive" stereotype and get upset when a negative stereotype comes out. Either you take both or your take neither. |
2010-06-20 12:55 PM in reply to: #2931774 |
Champion 6503 NOVA - Ironic for an Endurance Athlete | Subject: RE: Are you GAY?? AtlRadTech - 2010-06-19 1:45 PM Comet - 2010-06-19 2:30 PM I do realize that you say this in jest, but why make comments like these? It feeds the stereotype, and frankly I find it offensive. It's "mojito" by the way. And straight men are stereotyped to be dumb, football loving, bud light drinking, meat heads who are helpless without their wives. It's funny and we just go with it. n=1=me 100% Correct. |
2010-06-20 2:36 PM in reply to: #2932660 |
Master 1929 Midlothian, VA | Subject: RE: Are you GAY?? And straight men are stereotyped to be dumb, football loving, bud light drinking, meat heads who are helpless without their wives. It's funny and we just go with it. Well, now I'm confused. I thought I was straight, but I'm none of those....my head hurts! Then again, I have almost zero fashion sense and don't particularly care for show tunes... -eric |
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2010-06-20 5:39 PM in reply to: #2932653 |
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2010-06-21 10:44 AM in reply to: #2931734 |
Elite 3519 San Jose, CA | Subject: RE: Are you GAY?? AtlRadTech - 2010-06-19 11:07 AM gearboy - 2010-06-15 9:16 PM Because, apart from the whole sex part, being gay means hanging out with your buddy all the time. And frankly, if we legalize gay marriage, the sex part will go away. At least, that seems to be what happens when straight couples marry... In your situation if my GF stops when we get married we already have an agreement. I can cheat on her with Megan Fox or a man. She has Mark Walhberg and any woman/en she wants. So I have options! Or if I go into space I can do it with whomever. I used my girlfriend's bubble bath last night so I'm just a couple mohitos away from buying a timeshare on Fire Island. I did keep a water pistol in there to help man it up though. I am a little lost. This thread started out being soooo much fun! And I don't see anything in this post particularly offensive. After having fixed my car once, I wanted to call my dad and tell him how butch I was. Am I any less butch for watching HGTV, no...but in jest, comments like this don't offend me. We all make generalizations and jokes about stereotypes...most gay standup comics make jokes about it all the time. I watched a Pride standup comedy special, and one of the comics joked about how when he walks into a gay bar, they call the police because he looks like a skin head football player and are afraid he is a basher. When I worked in High Tech, some of the gay guys were getting hate mail from someone on my team. All of the known gay employees of the department were called into a conference room, I made a joke that that head of the department must need his hair done, his house decorated and his yard landscaped...we all thought it was funny. I don't see where what he said implied that being gay made him less of a man or less of anything? There have been several threads on this site on what constitutes loosing your "man-card", and rarely have I seen people get upset about how doing something less masculine (like going to a clay aiken concert) makes you less of a man. Maybe I am dumb (so not the stereotypical gay male), but I just read into it as a joke from someone that was open minded. (I think there are some faults to that open mindedness that came out in later posts, but in reference to the post that started this discussion). Even if the alleged meaning that taking a bubble bath makes you less of a man, I don't believe there was intent. But again, maybe I read it wrong. I am not always the brightest tool in the shed.... Now, can we return this thread into a fun loving celebration of being GAY! |
2010-06-21 10:52 AM in reply to: #2923310 |
Veteran 123 Carleton Place, Ontario | Subject: RE: Are you GAY?? Just something about straight privilege to perhaps think about. Sometimes we don't realize the types of discrimination other people encounter. I know that reading about white privilege opened my eyes to a few things that I'd never realized. http://www.cs.earlham.edu/~hyrax/personal/files/student_res/straigh... |
2010-06-21 11:47 AM in reply to: #2934080 |
Pro 6767 the Alabama part of Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Are you GAY?? runningwoof - 2010-06-21 11:44 AM I am a little lost. This thread started out being soooo much fun! And I don't see anything in this post particularly offensive. After having fixed my car once, I wanted to call my dad and tell him how butch I was. Am I any less butch for watching HGTV, no...but in jest, comments like this don't offend me. We all make generalizations and jokes about stereotypes...most gay standup comics make jokes about it all the time. I watched a Pride standup comedy special, and one of the comics joked about how when he walks into a gay bar, they call the police because he looks like a skin head football player and are afraid he is a basher. When I worked in High Tech, some of the gay guys were getting hate mail from someone on my team. All of the known gay employees of the department were called into a conference room, I made a joke that that head of the department must need his hair done, his house decorated and his yard landscaped...we all thought it was funny. I don't see where what he said implied that being gay made him less of a man or less of anything? There have been several threads on this site on what constitutes loosing your "man-card", and rarely have I seen people get upset about how doing something less masculine (like going to a clay aiken concert) makes you less of a man. Maybe I am dumb (so not the stereotypical gay male), but I just read into it as a joke from someone that was open minded. (I think there are some faults to that open mindedness that came out in later posts, but in reference to the post that started this discussion). Even if the alleged meaning that taking a bubble bath makes you less of a man, I don't believe there was intent. But again, maybe I read it wrong. I am not always the brightest tool in the shed.... Now, can we return this thread into a fun loving celebration of being GAY! Isn't it better to have the biggest tool in the shed? I mean, as long as the shed is big enough to accomodate the tools... |
2010-06-21 11:56 AM in reply to: #2923310 |
Elite 3519 San Jose, CA | Subject: RE: Are you GAY?? are you offering to show me your tool? |
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2010-06-21 12:01 PM in reply to: #2934339 |
Member 48 Aurora, CO | Subject: RE: Are you GAY?? gearboy - 2010-06-21 10:47 AM runningwoof - 2010-06-21 11:44 AM I am a little lost. This thread started out being soooo much fun! And I don't see anything in this post particularly offensive. After having fixed my car once, I wanted to call my dad and tell him how butch I was. Am I any less butch for watching HGTV, no...but in jest, comments like this don't offend me. We all make generalizations and jokes about stereotypes...most gay standup comics make jokes about it all the time. I watched a Pride standup comedy special, and one of the comics joked about how when he walks into a gay bar, they call the police because he looks like a skin head football player and are afraid he is a basher. When I worked in High Tech, some of the gay guys were getting hate mail from someone on my team. All of the known gay employees of the department were called into a conference room, I made a joke that that head of the department must need his hair done, his house decorated and his yard landscaped...we all thought it was funny. I don't see where what he said implied that being gay made him less of a man or less of anything? There have been several threads on this site on what constitutes loosing your "man-card", and rarely have I seen people get upset about how doing something less masculine (like going to a clay aiken concert) makes you less of a man. Maybe I am dumb (so not the stereotypical gay male), but I just read into it as a joke from someone that was open minded. (I think there are some faults to that open mindedness that came out in later posts, but in reference to the post that started this discussion). Even if the alleged meaning that taking a bubble bath makes you less of a man, I don't believe there was intent. But again, maybe I read it wrong. I am not always the brightest tool in the shed.... Now, can we return this thread into a fun loving celebration of being GAY! Isn't it better to have the biggest tool in the shed? I mean, as long as the shed is big enough to accomodate the tools... Hey, I was always told that it is not the size that counts.....Yeah right. |
2010-06-21 12:43 PM in reply to: #2932054 |
Champion 34263 Chicago | Subject: RE: Are you GAY?? ADollar79 - 2010-06-19 7:01 PM AtlRadTech - 2010-06-19 4:36 PM or you could continue to perpetuate the stereotype that men are incapable of apologizing when they are wrong. White men are never wrong. Just ask one. Half-Asian men, on the other hand ... |
2010-06-21 12:51 PM in reply to: #2934542 |
Champion 18680 Lost in the Luminiferous Aether | Subject: RE: Are you GAY?? mr2tony - 2010-06-21 1:43 PM ADollar79 - 2010-06-19 7:01 PM White men are never wrong right. Just ask one. Half-Asian men, on the other hand ... AtlRadTech - 2010-06-19 4:36 PM or you could continue to perpetuate the stereotype that men are incapable of apologizing when they are wrong. Fixed that for you ....... |
2010-06-21 2:29 PM in reply to: #2930995 |
Master 1699 Malvern, PA | Subject: RE: Are you GAY?? TriRSquared - 2010-06-18 5:42 PM This is now up to 6 pages and the OP has yet to join back in. Just an observation. good question... where is LittleKat? |
2010-06-24 8:13 AM in reply to: #2923310 |
Extreme Veteran 353 New York | Subject: RE: Are you GAY?? Ok, checking in, I just heard about this thread from folks on the IMLP forum. Yep, I'm gay! I don't play softball (dyke stereotype), but my partner and I built our own house, I can tell you where everything is at Home Depot, and at times when I had short hair, I was often mistaken for a man--including when I was 9 months pregnant. I guess they thought it was a beer belly: "Excuse me, sir..." Now that I have long hair, thus look more girly, and spend a lot of my time with my 6-year-old son, I'm like an undercover gay person. Until other mommies on the playground ask, "What does your husband do?" |
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2010-06-24 9:24 AM in reply to: #2940788 |
Expert 1151 Las Vegas, NV | Subject: RE: Are you GAY?? KWin - 2010-06-24 8:13 AM Ok, checking in, I just heard about this thread from folks on the IMLP forum. Yep, I'm gay! I don't play softball (dyke stereotype), but my partner and I built our own house, I can tell you where everything is at Home Depot, and at times when I had short hair, I was often mistaken for a man--including when I was 9 months pregnant. I guess they thought it was a beer belly: "Excuse me, sir..." Now that I have long hair, thus look more girly, and spend a lot of my time with my 6-year-old son, I'm like an undercover gay person. Until other mommies on the playground ask, "What does your husband do?" LOL...some of those guys really DO look like they are pregnant. |
2010-06-24 9:52 AM in reply to: #2923533 |
Master 1681 Rural Ontario | Subject: RE: Are you GAY?? TriRSquared - 2010-06-15 3:46 PM Tri-ingToTurn40 - 2010-06-15 3:21 PM Sexual orientation is pretty far from binary. lol Considering there are only two sexes I'm not sure how it could not be binary. You are 0 and like 1s You are 0 and like 0s You are 1 and like 1s You are 1 and like 0s You are 1 and like 1s & 0s You are 0 and like 1s & 0s I guess technically the last two are trinary (no pun intended) This logical argument does not stand since you are mixing a definitive integer with a subjective concept of 'like'. i.e. You are 0 and I like 1 (a little - 25%), I like 0 (a lot - 75%) - now the variations become infinite. By the way - once when I was in Bangkok, I ended up with a '3', but I was really drunk at the time. |
2010-06-24 10:25 AM in reply to: #2940788 |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: Are you GAY?? KWin - 2010-06-24 10:13 PM Ok, checking in, I just heard about this thread from folks on the IMLP forum. Yep, I'm gay! I don't play softball (dyke stereotype), but my partner and I built our own house, I can tell you where everything is at Home Depot, and at times when I had short hair, I was often mistaken for a man--including when I was 9 months pregnant. I guess they thought it was a beer belly: "Excuse me, sir..." Now that I have long hair, thus look more girly, and spend a lot of my time with my 6-year-old son, I'm like an undercover gay person. Until other mommies on the playground ask, "What does your husband do?" People are crazy. You don't look like you have masculine features at all! (Strangely enough when I have short hair people mistake me for a guy--from the back--but I think it's the shoulders). And this is totally off topic, but I think you're swell and bring great things to BT. Thanks for being around. |
2010-06-25 10:48 PM in reply to: #2923310 |
Regular 283 | Subject: RE: Are you GAY?? This is awesome. As a straight guy, I am laughing my arse off. Lots of consistencies between the various relationships. The #1 lesson learned, don't let the spouse eat the wedding cake! |
2010-06-26 11:38 AM in reply to: #2940788 |
Subject: RE: Are you GAY?? KWin - 2010-06-24 9:13 AM I don't play softball (dyke stereotype) So THAT'S what the "she's in the pocket of big softball" comments are all about with the Supreme Court pick. Thank you. |
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2010-06-26 12:10 PM in reply to: #2923310 |
Elite 3519 San Jose, CA | Subject: RE: Are you GAY?? Since this weekend is Gay Pride for most, Happy Gay Pride Day. It has been 41 years since Stonewall! I was just a fetus (literally, I was born 5 months after the riots) when it happen, but it impacted my life all the same. |
2010-06-27 7:39 AM in reply to: #2934080 |
Champion 4835 Eat Cheese or Die | Subject: RE: Are you GAY?? runningwoof - 2010-06-21 10:44 AM There have been several threads on this site on what constitutes loosing your "man-card", and rarely have I seen people get upset about how doing something less masculine (like going to a clay aiken concert) makes you less of a man. Bad example, going to a Clay Aiken concert makes you less of a person. He's just a terrible musician. To answer the OP, I'm a straight guy who would not be with his wife had a gay friend not set us up. |
2010-06-27 7:41 AM in reply to: #2945472 |
Champion 4835 Eat Cheese or Die | Subject: RE: Are you GAY?? runningwoof - 2010-06-26 12:10 PM Since this weekend is Gay Pride for most, Happy Gay Pride Day. It has been 41 years since Stonewall! I was just a fetus (literally, I was born 5 months after the riots) when it happen, but it impacted my life all the same. Happy Gay Pride Day! BTW, I'd be happy to get hit on/checked out by a dude, I'll take a compliment from anyone. |
2010-06-28 11:30 AM in reply to: #2946167 |
Elite 3519 San Jose, CA | Subject: RE: Are you GAY?? graceful_dave - 2010-06-27 5:39 AM runningwoof - 2010-06-21 10:44 AM There have been several threads on this site on what constitutes loosing your "man-card", and rarely have I seen people get upset about how doing something less masculine (like going to a clay aiken concert) makes you less of a man. Bad example, going to a Clay Aiken concert makes you less of a person. He's just a terrible musician. To answer the OP, I'm a straight guy who would not be with his wife had a gay friend not set us up. I was referring to a specific thread where that was brought up...I believe it was last year...or maybe the year before. But it had to do with a man giving up his man card to go with his wife / girlfriend to a Clay Aiken concert. I am too lazy to search the archives to find it. |
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