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All of the before and after pics are super inspiring!!

Kirsten-I can totally see the before and after in your face and arms especially. 

These pictures have me thinking and I want to pick your amazing manatee brains.  I have trouble with goal setting.  I don't know how to do it.  I don't know that I have ever done any goal, really, because I am severely afraid of failure.  I would like to set some goals. Yes, I said that out loud.  Where do I start and how do I start?  

I seem to want lofty things but then when I don't see progress or if I am not consistent, I go far backwards.   I am one of those all or nothing people.  Training plans, if I miss a day, well then I miss a bunch more and then I look into new training plans.  Diets, if I blow a day, well then I blow the week until the next start date.  I need a brain reset. 

How did you all set and meet your goals?  What keeps you on track?  How do you get it set in your brain that this is what you want and go for it?

I know my questions are weird and I seem to have a disconnect somewhere.  I know my manatees will get me.

Will you all help me set some goals?

I do hope that you appropriately (or not-so-appropriately  Wink) stalk my log to keep me on track.

We have established that I do this already, right? Wink

  I have a long way to go. 

  I was thinking of making a time goal.  If you know me, this is huger than me completing endurance events.  I am the energizer bunny (and my 1st event ever in 2006 was a marathon) and know that I will complete.  I have never had consistency and sometimes I wonder how much I would improve if I actually trained consistently.  I think I would have to start smaller at this point, if I am going for a time goal and not just to finish. 

Is it stupid to train for only a 9 mile race and then fly 2000 miles to do it?  

You have two goals there. The first (and in my opinion) the most important is to see what happens when you train consistently. The second is to train for and do that 9 miler. I don't think race distances have anything to do with their validity. If you think that you might want to talk to Usain Bolt


2013-01-15 11:39 PM
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I have a cunning plan!!!!  See below - i figure just work backwards from 8 hours on the bike, including outdoor time, hopefully get those long rides outside!  It's possible.  As someone said to me - your swim, you don't have far to go to get to 3.8km, the run you were prepared to walk anyway....

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1 0.75    17-Mar
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10.5 1.5 7 hours 03-Mar
10.5 1.5 6 hours 24-Feb
10.5 1.5 5 hours 17-Feb
10.5 1.5 4 hours 10-Feb
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2013-01-15 11:42 PM
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TriAya - 2013-01-15 7:38 AM
Muskrat37 - 2013-01-15 11:14 PM

At what point does BT become an addiction that I need to seek help for?

Too late.


I am seriously considering trying to make coaching a "career", with the strength of my coaching being in swimming.  Before I got my current job, I built websites from my living room.  If I coach, I can continue to do that, and can make ends meet, but there is the issue of medical benefits.  Of course I can also build my own coaching website.  

The other obstacle is getting certified.  I know I have a lot to learn.  Yanti, (and anyone else who has coaching experience) I am curious as to your thoughts on this program I found online.  It seems like a great starting point with a lot of material for just under $500.  Of course, eventually I would want to get a USAT Certification, but I could never go higher than level 1 as I don't have the Bachelors degree needed for Level 2

http://triathloncoachcertification.com/

Ignoring all the marketing on the ITCA website and just looking at what the program covers I am tempted to do this.  What say you Manatees?  

What is it you're hoping to gain from certification?

The basic knowledge to begin.  How to do a history, how to structure / tailor workouts to individual athletes based on individual starting points and goals.  This course seemed to be very thorough and a great starting point. Long term - I would think it helps from a marketing standpoint, like bullet points on a resume.  I have built small business websites for almost 3 years now, and have owned 2 companies of my own.  I'm always thinking about marketing.  

Mainly because it isn't necessary (at this stage). From what I recall of a discussion on Slowtwitch, the reviews were fairly positive and ITCA gives you a background in anatomy/physiology/kinesiology that USAT 1 doesn't.

On the other hand, it's all stuff very easily learnt on your own.

I'm one that needs the structure of a course.  I would find it overwhelming to go try to find the materials that are covered in this course.  Not to mention - purchasing all these books would have some expense involved (probably approaching the cost of the course)

 

Also, my random personal recommendation is to really think about whether you want to be a triathlon coach or a swimming coach and exactly what kind of coaching you want to do ... and get out there and find everyone you can who's doing any kind of coaching and chew their ear off. Oh wait, that would also be me

One of the best ways to become an outstanding triathlete is to train, inasmuch as possible, as one, and with the single-sport athletes. Being an outstanding coach is something of an art (and really depends on how one categorizes 'outstanding') but you'd best serve yourself as an athlete and whoever your clients are/will be by aiming to be as well-informed in each of the disciplines as a single-sport coach would be. (And then of course, in triathlon as a whole, as a sport both in training and race execution).

More random thoughts--don't wait for 'certification.' (It's a good idea, and how you do it is a good topic for discussion, but for now ... ) get clients. If you can't get paying ones, volunteer your services. Coach a school running club or assistant-coach a swimming/swim lessons program. Learn everything you can about bicycles. Offer to tune people's bikes.

This is all great advice - and I really appreciate it and will be following it.  Especially the chewing YOUR ear off part.  I have considered the swimming coach vs triathlon coach.  I would like to focus on the triathlon side of things.

I love the advice about training with single sport athletes as much as possible...Will be looking into that more around here.  

Thanks again for the advice.  

2013-01-16 12:01 AM
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cdban66 - 2013-01-15 7:50 AM

Chad, the only coaching advice I have comes from left field. I don't use one, nor do I intend to, as those are not my goals. But I have played a variety of sports and I have figured out a couple of coaching aspects:

  • The best athlete is NOT the best coach. Coaching is an art form unto itself.
  • The best coach tailors to the needs of the athlete. Think John Fox changing the Broncos last year to take advantage of Tebow, then changing again to take advantage of Manning. Be open to different things.
  • What works for one may not work for another. You seem motivated by showing people they are wrong about you. I am motivated internally/personally. As a coach, you need to be able to push both buttons to help the athlete grow.
  • Learn as much about psychology as you do physiology. The mind is where many athletes are seperated from others.
  • Every job has many of the same things about it, make sure you love the bad parts of the job (pay, benefits, hours, whatever) as you do the good parts. Your own outlook determines many things.

The last part is simple. I wish you only the best and success!!!! Job choices are like triathlon, it may be a long go, but in the end it will be worth it. Preparation is key.

Thank you for all the great advice.  These tips are all things that I thoroughly believe in and your examples are great.  

I learned the lesson about the best athlete not being the best coach through the practice of Taekwondo for 3 1/2 years. (a little know fact about me)   - At first, as a white belt, it seemed weird to see some of the black belts that couldn't do the flying double back twisting spinning tornado knock your head off kick .....then as I progressed through the ranks that I could not do a flying double back blah, blah kick - but I could instruct a kid how to do it.....the light bulb turned on.  

Just to clarify - I'm not only motivated by proving doubters wrong...it's one facet of my motivation.  I am primarily motivated to do what I do by my desire to live a long and healthy life and to set a good example for my son.  The doubters are just an extra bit of motivation, but the reality is, I could care less what anyone thinks.  (except my new mantee pod mates.. )  

I have always enjoyed training / teaching of any type.  I love training new employees - and have always enjoyed sharing my knowledge.  I love triathlons, and just being healthy in general.  I would love to help someone along their journey as well.  

I will keep you all posted.  My primary concern with that course was that it was a bunch of garbage.  It seems like a great place to get started - so I'm going to do it!  Dang it - now I have a new website to build.  Where am I going to fit that in? 

2013-01-16 12:03 AM
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jogo - 2013-01-15 7:35 PM
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All of the before and after pics are super inspiring!!

Kirsten-I can totally see the before and after in your face and arms especially. 

These pictures have me thinking and I want to pick your amazing manatee brains.  I have trouble with goal setting.  I don't know how to do it.  I don't know that I have ever done any goal, really, because I am severely afraid of failure.  I would like to set some goals. Yes, I said that out loud.  Where do I start and how do I start?  

I seem to want lofty things but then when I don't see progress or if I am not consistent, I go far backwards.   I am one of those all or nothing people.  Training plans, if I miss a day, well then I miss a bunch more and then I look into new training plans.  Diets, if I blow a day, well then I blow the week until the next start date.  I need a brain reset. 

How did you all set and meet your goals?  What keeps you on track?  How do you get it set in your brain that this is what you want and go for it?

I know my questions are weird and I seem to have a disconnect somewhere.  I know my manatees will get me.

Will you all help me set some goals?

I do hope that you appropriately (or not-so-appropriately  Wink) stalk my log to keep me on track.

We have established that I do this already, right? Wink

Yes, you already stalk and I don't thank you enough.  It really does keep me going even if I don't always reply. 

 

 

Is it stupid to train for only a 9 mile race and then fly 2000 miles to do it?  

Stupid - Hell NO!  

It is AWESOME!

I for one am a little bit jealous.    

2013-01-16 12:07 AM
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Last post from me - then I'm off to bed.  

Ran 8.6 miles in 1:07 today... picked up the pace a bit - the legs felt incredible, and the cardio is great right now. 



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Welp, night two of the bike class. Patched and re-mounted like 6 flats including one on a very tiny 12" wheel with a bright pink rim. Then we dove into overhauling a couple front hubs. The class is super hands on (quite literally, my hands were black with grease and) I couldn't ask for more.
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Asalzwed - 2013-01-15 9:41 PM Welp, night two of the bike class. Patched and re-mounted like 6 flats including one on a very tiny 12" wheel with a bright pink rim. Then we dove into overhauling a couple front hubs. The class is super hands on (quite literally, my hands were black with grease and) I couldn't ask for more.

I love classes like that. The best way to learn is by doing in my opinion.

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After a rough day at work I am tired and near exhausted. I had trouble falling asleep last night so getting my pre-work run in this morning did not happen, I was hoping for a snow day. I kind of felt it at work and had wished I had gotten my butt up to do it. I did actually come home, checked my snail mail and then hoped on the trainer.

I think I may set a goal of 30 in 30 with my shortest run being 2 miles on Sundays. I know it is going to jump my miles up by what is in my logs, but I do not always log my Army PT. I estimate my normal run being about 3.5 miles at an easy pace for this first month. After a week I might lengthen a midweek run to add some more mileage. My long run would be on Friday being around 6-7 miles. What thoughts do the Manatees have? I have learned by now to stop or slow down if the body screams or complains. I am still paying for stupidity in my youth from  running cross country.

I do not have a set training plan yet. I only have one known race but a couple I hope to do. My Masters Swim is back in session so I will be rejoining them 2-3 times a week (M, W, Sa). The other nights would be rides on the trainer until mid-March. My runs would be in the morning before work. Friday may be swapped around for a ride in the morning and run at night due to it being my "long" run day.

Thoughts? Comments? Suggestions?

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jogo - 2013-01-16 11:35 AM
cdban66 - 2013-01-15 12:06 PM
jogo - 2013-01-15 7:51 AM

All of the before and after pics are super inspiring!!

Kirsten-I can totally see the before and after in your face and arms especially. 

These pictures have me thinking and I want to pick your amazing manatee brains.  I have trouble with goal setting.  I don't know how to do it.  I don't know that I have ever done any goal, really, because I am severely afraid of failure.  I would like to set some goals. Yes, I said that out loud.  Where do I start and how do I start?  

I seem to want lofty things but then when I don't see progress or if I am not consistent, I go far backwards.   I am one of those all or nothing people.  Training plans, if I miss a day, well then I miss a bunch more and then I look into new training plans.  Diets, if I blow a day, well then I blow the week until the next start date.  I need a brain reset. 

How did you all set and meet your goals?  What keeps you on track?  How do you get it set in your brain that this is what you want and go for it?

I know my questions are weird and I seem to have a disconnect somewhere.  I know my manatees will get me.

Will you all help me set some goals?

I do hope that you appropriately (or not-so-appropriately  Wink) stalk my log to keep me on track.

We have established that I do this already, right? Wink

Yes, you already stalk and I don't thank you enough.  It really does keep me going even if I don't always reply. 

 

So I was psychoanalyzing as I tried to put goals down on paper.  My problem is that I have no goals.  I don't have a passion to want to lose weight, eventhough I like being thinner and am more confident. I haven't had anyone tell me I was ugly or fat, and I am usually pretty happy and healthy, so losing weight will have to be a bonus effect, not a goal.  I don't care enough to stick to a diet.  I like to socialize and drink too much to deprive.  I can make healthy choices but I don't have a desire to consciously restrict my calories.  Been there (started dieting at 11 years old and am finally comfortable in my skin so my weight doesn't ruin my day until I start comparing myself to other people), done that many times over and over again.  I have been 48lbs lighter than I am now.  I looked like a skeleton and I wasn't happy.   

I looked at my marathon plan and I have no goals.  I just can't make another goal to finish.  I've done that 6 times. It is not a challenge.  I can't make a goal of finishing Big Sur in the time limit.  I did that in 2012 and that was the scariest, most fulfilling goal I have ever accomplished and I am still flying high from that.  I can't do Big Sur with less fitness than last year and have a bad experience. I am too afraid of that.  I don't want a bad memory and I have such incredible memories right now.  i just can't ruin them.  I am not sure I have it in me to get to that same level of fitness in 14 weeks.  I have a long way to go. 

There are other races at Big Sur  (and here is where I need advice) so I was thinking of "racing" the 9 mile.  I've never done a 9 mile race so it is an automatic PR but I've also only "raced" one 5k in my life.  I was thinking of making a time goal.  If you know me, this is huger than me completing endurance events.  I am the energizer bunny (and my 1st event ever in 2006 was a marathon) and know that I will complete.  I have never had consistency and sometimes I wonder how much I would improve if I actually trained consistently.  I think I would have to start smaller at this point, if I am going for a time goal and not just to finish. 

Is it stupid to train for only a 9 mile race and then fly 2000 miles to do it?  

I don't drink but I have been told many times that the best way to come up with goals is when you are a bit tipsy because the part of your brain that says "you can't do that" stops talking.
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OMG what a swim I used to fear going round the wreck of the Cerberus especially as its choppy out there. Tonight we went round twice once with the waves once against. First time I drafted off Lism so easy. No luck on the second round. Add to that the warm up of around 900m that's a 3km swim and if Johnny had said go again I would have. Sigh so happy with the swim



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Muskrat37 - 2013-01-16 1:01 AM
cdban66 - 2013-01-15 7:50 AM

Chad, the only coaching advice I have comes from left field. I don't use one, nor do I intend to, as those are not my goals. But I have played a variety of sports and I have figured out a couple of coaching aspects:

  • The best athlete is NOT the best coach. Coaching is an art form unto itself.
  • The best coach tailors to the needs of the athlete. Think John Fox changing the Broncos last year to take advantage of Tebow, then changing again to take advantage of Manning. Be open to different things.
  • What works for one may not work for another. You seem motivated by showing people they are wrong about you. I am motivated internally/personally. As a coach, you need to be able to push both buttons to help the athlete grow.
  • Learn as much about psychology as you do physiology. The mind is where many athletes are seperated from others.
  • Every job has many of the same things about it, make sure you love the bad parts of the job (pay, benefits, hours, whatever) as you do the good parts. Your own outlook determines many things.

The last part is simple. I wish you only the best and success!!!! Job choices are like triathlon, it may be a long go, but in the end it will be worth it. Preparation is key.

Thank you for all the great advice.  These tips are all things that I thoroughly believe in and your examples are great.  

I learned the lesson about the best athlete not being the best coach through the practice of Taekwondo for 3 1/2 years. (a little know fact about me)   - At first, as a white belt, it seemed weird to see some of the black belts that couldn't do the flying double back twisting spinning tornado knock your head off kick .....then as I progressed through the ranks that I could not do a flying double back blah, blah kick - but I could instruct a kid how to do it.....the light bulb turned on.  

Just to clarify - I'm not only motivated by proving doubters wrong...it's one facet of my motivation.  I am primarily motivated to do what I do by my desire to live a long and healthy life and to set a good example for my son.  The doubters are just an extra bit of motivation, but the reality is, I could care less what anyone thinks.  (except my new mantee pod mates.. )  

I have always enjoyed training / teaching of any type.  I love training new employees - and have always enjoyed sharing my knowledge.  I love triathlons, and just being healthy in general.  I would love to help someone along their journey as well.  

I will keep you all posted.  My primary concern with that course was that it was a bunch of garbage.  It seems like a great place to get started - so I'm going to do it!  Dang it - now I have a new website to build.  Where am I going to fit that in? 

It looks like you are going into this with your eyes wide open. That is very smart. Take the steps you need to build a foundation, work your tail off and it will all come together over time. Congratulations!!!

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amd723 - 2013-01-15 1:07 PM So I'm feeling pretty motivated right now. Rev3 Florida came out with an Olympic distance to go with the half it offered last year. Because there was only the half last year, I could not convince anybody to participate with me, so I was by myself last year. Well, today, the first day of registration, I've already gotten 2 of my brothers to say they will do the Olympic! I'm working on recruiting others. I will do the half again, so I will be alone in that race, but that's ok.Of course, the race isn't until November, so my motivation has plenty of time to wane

Too bad no one who lives nearby (say in Englewood) would do it with you.

I think he may be considering the oly

He is. Considering. maybe.

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ponderingfox - 2013-01-16 9:01 AM

IN OTHER NEWS:

I swam 3100 yards tonight at the Master's Swim.  Furthest for me yet.  All the slackers with me in the slow lane kept asking me to lead.  It's like getting chased by a pack of dogs.  I guess that's one way to get motivation.  At times when I was struggling I would think, "If I was in the middle of 1500m, I really couldn't stop right now."  That helped.

BAHAHAHA! Oh that's gold, but oh so true. Good thinking there and congratulations on the training PR!

I meant to ask but maybe I didn't, or it was a bit you didn't read, but what parts of your diet still aren't vegan? Curious.

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jbwills - 2013-01-15 11:20 PM

After a rough day at work I am tired and near exhausted. I had trouble falling asleep last night so getting my pre-work run in this morning did not happen, I was hoping for a snow day. I kind of felt it at work and had wished I had gotten my butt up to do it. I did actually come home, checked my snail mail and then hoped on the trainer.

I think I may set a goal of 30 in 30 with my shortest run being 2 miles on Sundays. I know it is going to jump my miles up by what is in my logs, but I do not always log my Army PT. I estimate my normal run being about 3.5 miles at an easy pace for this first month. After a week I might lengthen a midweek run to add some more mileage. My long run would be on Friday being around 6-7 miles. What thoughts do the Manatees have? I have learned by now to stop or slow down if the body screams or complains. I am still paying for stupidity in my youth from  running cross country.

I do not have a set training plan yet. I only have one known race but a couple I hope to do. My Masters Swim is back in session so I will be rejoining them 2-3 times a week (M, W, Sa). The other nights would be rides on the trainer until mid-March. My runs would be in the morning before work. Friday may be swapped around for a ride in the morning and run at night due to it being my "long" run day.

Thoughts? Comments? Suggestions?

Heh.  I hope on the trainer too.  Hope that it will be over soon!!!

I'm going to let the experienced peeps answer on your plan.

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Asalzwed - 2013-01-15 10:41 PM Welp, night two of the bike class. Patched and re-mounted like 6 flats including one on a very tiny 12" wheel with a bright pink rim. Then we dove into overhauling a couple front hubs. The class is super hands on (quite literally, my hands were black with grease and) I couldn't ask for more.

Very cool.  This is something that I would like to do, learn how to care for my own bike.  Have to look into this.



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jobaxas - 2013-01-16 2:34 AM OMG what a swim I used to fear going round the wreck of the Cerberus especially as its choppy out there. Tonight we went round twice once with the waves once against. First time I drafted off Lism so easy. No luck on the second round. Add to that the warm up of around 900m that's a 3km swim and if Johnny had said go again I would have. Sigh so happy with the swim

Very cool and congrats.   I am jealous of your swim locations.    



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jbwills - 2013-01-15 11:20 PM

After a rough day at work I am tired and near exhausted. I had trouble falling asleep last night so getting my pre-work run in this morning did not happen, I was hoping for a snow day. I kind of felt it at work and had wished I had gotten my butt up to do it. I did actually come home, checked my snail mail and then hoped on the trainer.

I think I may set a goal of 30 in 30 with my shortest run being 2 miles on Sundays. I know it is going to jump my miles up by what is in my logs, but I do not always log my Army PT. I estimate my normal run being about 3.5 miles at an easy pace for this first month. After a week I might lengthen a midweek run to add some more mileage. My long run would be on Friday being around 6-7 miles. What thoughts do the Manatees have? I have learned by now to stop or slow down if the body screams or complains. I am still paying for stupidity in my youth from  running cross country.

I do not have a set training plan yet. I only have one known race but a couple I hope to do. My Masters Swim is back in session so I will be rejoining them 2-3 times a week (M, W, Sa). The other nights would be rides on the trainer until mid-March. My runs would be in the morning before work. Friday may be swapped around for a ride in the morning and run at night due to it being my "long" run day.

Thoughts? Comments? Suggestions?

I love it.  I think streaking is a great way to build consistency in running.  When I did my streak - there were days the streak got me out there, no matter what.  I am contemplating another streak myself...maybe we can go streaking together.  LOL



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cdban66 - 2013-01-16 6:07 AM
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Chad, the only coaching advice I have comes from left field. I don't use one, nor do I intend to, as those are not my goals. But I have played a variety of sports and I have figured out a couple of coaching aspects:

  • The best athlete is NOT the best coach. Coaching is an art form unto itself.
  • The best coach tailors to the needs of the athlete. Think John Fox changing the Broncos last year to take advantage of Tebow, then changing again to take advantage of Manning. Be open to different things.
  • What works for one may not work for another. You seem motivated by showing people they are wrong about you. I am motivated internally/personally. As a coach, you need to be able to push both buttons to help the athlete grow.
  • Learn as much about psychology as you do physiology. The mind is where many athletes are seperated from others.
  • Every job has many of the same things about it, make sure you love the bad parts of the job (pay, benefits, hours, whatever) as you do the good parts. Your own outlook determines many things.

The last part is simple. I wish you only the best and success!!!! Job choices are like triathlon, it may be a long go, but in the end it will be worth it. Preparation is key.

Thank you for all the great advice.  These tips are all things that I thoroughly believe in and your examples are great.  

I learned the lesson about the best athlete not being the best coach through the practice of Taekwondo for 3 1/2 years. (a little know fact about me)   - At first, as a white belt, it seemed weird to see some of the black belts that couldn't do the flying double back twisting spinning tornado knock your head off kick .....then as I progressed through the ranks that I could not do a flying double back blah, blah kick - but I could instruct a kid how to do it.....the light bulb turned on.  

Just to clarify - I'm not only motivated by proving doubters wrong...it's one facet of my motivation.  I am primarily motivated to do what I do by my desire to live a long and healthy life and to set a good example for my son.  The doubters are just an extra bit of motivation, but the reality is, I could care less what anyone thinks.  (except my new mantee pod mates.. )  

I have always enjoyed training / teaching of any type.  I love training new employees - and have always enjoyed sharing my knowledge.  I love triathlons, and just being healthy in general.  I would love to help someone along their journey as well.  

I will keep you all posted.  My primary concern with that course was that it was a bunch of garbage.  It seems like a great place to get started - so I'm going to do it!  Dang it - now I have a new website to build.  Where am I going to fit that in? 

It looks like you are going into this with your eyes wide open. That is very smart. Take the steps you need to build a foundation, work your tail off and it will all come together over time. Congratulations!!!

Wait - this requires hard work?  Maybe I should reconsider!  Just kidding... I love a good challenge, and I desperately need a career change.  

Thanks for the tips...I will most likely be asking the Manatee's lots of questions over time.  

Now to go find $500 somewhere...

2013-01-16 11:42 AM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatees Mentor Group - VERY CLOSED!!! Sorry!
Muskrat37 - 2013-01-16 9:17 AM
jbwills - 2013-01-15 11:20 PM

After a rough day at work I am tired and near exhausted. I had trouble falling asleep last night so getting my pre-work run in this morning did not happen, I was hoping for a snow day. I kind of felt it at work and had wished I had gotten my butt up to do it. I did actually come home, checked my snail mail and then hoped on the trainer.

I think I may set a goal of 30 in 30 with my shortest run being 2 miles on Sundays. I know it is going to jump my miles up by what is in my logs, but I do not always log my Army PT. I estimate my normal run being about 3.5 miles at an easy pace for this first month. After a week I might lengthen a midweek run to add some more mileage. My long run would be on Friday being around 6-7 miles. What thoughts do the Manatees have? I have learned by now to stop or slow down if the body screams or complains. I am still paying for stupidity in my youth from  running cross country.

I do not have a set training plan yet. I only have one known race but a couple I hope to do. My Masters Swim is back in session so I will be rejoining them 2-3 times a week (M, W, Sa). The other nights would be rides on the trainer until mid-March. My runs would be in the morning before work. Friday may be swapped around for a ride in the morning and run at night due to it being my "long" run day.

Thoughts? Comments? Suggestions?

I love it.  I think streaking is a great way to build consistency in running.  When I did my streak - there were days the streak got me out there, no matter what.  I am contemplating another streak myself...maybe we can go streaking together.  LOL

I have nothing to add but a hearty chuckle. Hehehe
2013-01-16 1:09 PM
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I'm planning a "long" swim tonight. For me that's 45-hour of slow and rather pathetic paddling. :/ I talk myself out of swimming so easily because I'm not "good" at it. I know, I know...totally counterproductive! So I need to ask for some help staying focused and not taking the easy way by swapping out swim for bike/run. Thanks in advance, pod.


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Rain, rain go away!!
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Artemis - 2013-01-16 11:32 AM Rain, rain go away!!

Did it?    Or do you need some help with the chant/song? Sometimes one person isn't enough.

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Artemis - 2013-01-16 11:32 AM Rain, rain go away!!

Did it?    Or do you need some help with the chant/song? Sometimes one person isn't enough.

I'll join the chorus!!

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4agoodlife - 2013-01-16 11:09 AM I'm planning a "long" swim tonight. For me that's 45-hour of slow and rather pathetic paddling. :/ I talk myself out of swimming so easily because I'm not "good" at it. I know, I know...totally counterproductive! So I need to ask for some help staying focused and not taking the easy way by swapping out swim for bike/run. Thanks in advance, pod.

If you cancel your swim in favor of a bike/run - I'm going to pop a hole in your bike tire and steal 1 of your running shoes.  

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