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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by fortissimo Originally posted by rrrunner Hands, prayers for you and your community Yes. I second this! thanks, it is truly horrible. I've been searching for the words to express how I feel - and I just can't I'm so overwhelmed. I am speechless ![]() |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Sounds like a tough weekend of racing in Boulder! To echo everyone's comments, I hope everyone's feeling nothing more than a little stiff and maybe a little hungover ![]() ![]() |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by marysia83 Originally posted by jmkizer ^^I thought the same thing. Originally posted by rrrunner So here's the latest on the coaching conundrum... I talked to Justin, the ultra guy. He was quite honest that he doesn't know the first thing about writing a bike plan and told me to go with the Ironman guy and that a 50 mile plan is similar to a marathon plan with longer long runs. Well yeah but... So I text Scott, the Ironman guy, and he apologized for not having gotten the info to me (it's been two weeks) and said he'd have it within 48 hours. I responded that I am still contemplating writing my own plan and that I would understand if he didn't want to spend the time putting together a proposal since I might decide not to hire him at this time. He said it's no problem and that he hopes to get to it tonight. So there we are. Well, at least Justin was honest with you. If you decide to go down that path at later time, he seems receptive so that is good. Michi is a no go? Uhhh hmm. I obviously missed the background info on this but it definitely sounds like a big fat no on both. I don't see why you can't write your own. Hmm BT is going a little wonky with quoting Mind is wanting to say something as well, but can't remember enough of the background in either to really be sure. Like timing of the events, or notable things about the courses (from a training perspective). Don't know if anything has changed or updated with this. Mind keeps coming back to it. If you want a coach, I do lean towards one with ultra experience. I'm also really wondering about needing a coach that much for the bike. It's possible that part is being overthought though a refresh on the background could help there. A metric century is a ways, but it's not really a crazy distance. Just having a bike set up to fit you well and the experience of going long with anything can do a lot. I know I ride a lot, but Adrienne managed to do over 200 miles in a single ride before. If I looked at the right course, it seemed like there was a lot of downhill in the last 10-12 miles or so too. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by TXTriRook Sounds like a tough weekend of racing in Boulder! To echo everyone's comments, I hope everyone's feeling nothing more than a little stiff and maybe a little hungover ![]() ![]() I don't have a rear hydration bottle but I have a similar uneasiness trying to grab things out of my tri top rear pockets. For me, it is a lack of flexibility. No way would I be able to use a rear hydration system. I use the standard frame mounted cages. If I was to try something different it would probably be an aerobar mounted system. I personally do not care much for the rear mounted system because of the high number of bottles I have seen dropped in races and some of the resulting crashes from people hitting them. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by marysia83 Originally posted by DaveL This past weekend I volunteered on the Ride to Conquer Cancer as a Bike Tech. The ride itself is 2 days, 200km total and 4253 participants raised $17.3M for cancer research. The Saturday was quite hot and also windy which added to the challenge for many of the riders. Sunday was a little cooler but still sunny clear skys. My bike tech partner and I rode the course while fixing at least a dozen flat tires, booted a few shredded tires, fixed a number of dropped and chain sucked chains and offered encouragement to dozens of riders. This is so great! Both: raising funds for the research, and your volunteer work ![]() ![]() How did your swim go? Did you experience much contact? |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by TXTriRook Sounds like a tough weekend of racing in Boulder! To echo everyone's comments, I hope everyone's feeling nothing more than a little stiff and maybe a little hungover ![]() ![]() You just need more practice getting that bottle. Swap a few times a ride just to get that muscle memory. I'm riding up with 3mar sometime Saturday, not sure when we'll get there yet. Maybe we should plan to meet for dinner after picking up packets. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by marysia83 Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by fortissimo Originally posted by rrrunner Hands, prayers for you and your community Yes. I second this! thanks, it is truly horrible. I've been searching for the words to express how I feel - and I just can't I'm so overwhelmed. I am speechless ![]() Thoughts and prayers |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by Jet Black Originally posted by TXTriRook Sounds like a tough weekend of racing in Boulder! To echo everyone's comments, I hope everyone's feeling nothing more than a little stiff and maybe a little hungover You just need more practice getting that bottle. Swap a few times a ride just to get that muscle memory. I'm riding up with 3mar sometime Saturday, not sure when we'll get there yet. Maybe we should plan to meet for dinner after picking up packets. ![]() ![]() I use a BTA setup and only race short course, so while I can't answer the exact question I would say that I think it is beneficial to spend some time every now and then working on what I call "ancillary bike/race skills". Things like mounts/dismounts, drinking, eating, emergency stopping, etc. These things may not be tantamount to a good race, but if one of them goes wrong, it can go very wrong, very fast. Kind of like how you are trying to get the nutrition part figured out. Just keep working on it. In the end, you may end up with a completely different solution, and that isn't bad either. You have to use whatever works best for you. |
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![]() | ![]() Originally posted by marysia83 Originally posted by mtnbikerchk I am speechless Originally posted by amd723 I've been searching for the words to express how I feel - and I just can't I'm so overwhelmed. Originally posted by fortissimo Originally posted by rrrunner Hands, prayers for you and your community Yes. I second this! thanks, it is truly horrible. ![]() I know it's really easy to dwell on what happened, especially from the LGBT perspective, as a set-back. But the response I have seen is the exact opposite. One person's terrible actions don't really reflect how far we have come. But we still have a long way to go. The important and really beautiful thing is that we are not helpless. We simply need to go out of our way to love one another, unconditionally. |
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![]() | ![]() I had an excellent marathon on Sunday! I am really excited to write about it and will as soon as I can. The short of it, I ran a 3:08-something and an 8th place finish on the women's side. It was a PR by a couple minutes as well. |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by Jet Black Originally posted by TXTriRook Sounds like a tough weekend of racing in Boulder! To echo everyone's comments, I hope everyone's feeling nothing more than a little stiff and maybe a little hungover You just need more practice getting that bottle. Swap a few times a ride just to get that muscle memory. I'm riding up with 3mar sometime Saturday, not sure when we'll get there yet. Maybe we should plan to meet for dinner after picking up packets. ![]() ![]() I use a BTA setup and only race short course, so while I can't answer the exact question I would say that I think it is beneficial to spend some time every now and then working on what I call "ancillary bike/race skills". Things like mounts/dismounts, drinking, eating, emergency stopping, etc. These things may not be tantamount to a good race, but if one of them goes wrong, it can go very wrong, very fast. Kind of like how you are trying to get the nutrition part figured out. Just keep working on it. In the end, you may end up with a completely different solution, and that isn't bad either. You have to use whatever works best for you. Yeah, probably some more practice with it. Doing it extra times even though you don't have to. Or more reps when you do need to. I eventually went to BTA and frame mount for HIM. Could switch at an aid station if I needed more than 2. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by Jet Black Originally posted by TXTriRook Sounds like a tough weekend of racing in Boulder! To echo everyone's comments, I hope everyone's feeling nothing more than a little stiff and maybe a little hungover You just need more practice getting that bottle. Swap a few times a ride just to get that muscle memory. I'm riding up with 3mar sometime Saturday, not sure when we'll get there yet. Maybe we should plan to meet for dinner after picking up packets. ![]() ![]() I use a BTA setup and only race short course, so while I can't answer the exact question I would say that I think it is beneficial to spend some time every now and then working on what I call "ancillary bike/race skills". Things like mounts/dismounts, drinking, eating, emergency stopping, etc. Â These things may not be tantamount to a good race, but if one of them goes wrong, it can go very wrong, very fast. Kind of like how you are trying to get the nutrition part figured out. Just keep working on it. In the end, you may end up with a completely different solution, and that isn't bad either. You have to use whatever works best for you. Yeah, probably some more practice with it. Doing it extra times even though you don't have to. Or more reps when you do need to. I eventually went to BTA and frame mount for HIM. Could switch at an aid station if I needed more than 2. I now just primarily use BTA. I have a bottle behind the seat but it's only contingency. Just too easy to chunk your empty and grab a new one at an aid station. No round bottles on the frame ever. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by marysia83 Originally posted by mtnbikerchk I am speechless Originally posted by amd723 I've been searching for the words to express how I feel - and I just can't I'm so overwhelmed. Originally posted by fortissimo Originally posted by rrrunner Hands, prayers for you and your community Yes. I second this! thanks, it is truly horrible. ![]() I know it's really easy to dwell on what happened, especially from the LGBT perspective, as a set-back. But the response I have seen is the exact opposite. One person's terrible actions don't really reflect how far we have come. But we still have a long way to go. The important and really beautiful thing is that we are not helpless. We simply need to go out of our way to love one another, unconditionally. I saw a small piece on the response of the entire Orlando area. Things like blood donations and such. It is true that in times of tragedy there is courage, hope, kindness and love. It may take a bit to see it, but it is there. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by marysia83 Originally posted by mtnbikerchk I am speechless Originally posted by amd723 I've been searching for the words to express how I feel - and I just can't I'm so overwhelmed. Originally posted by fortissimo Originally posted by rrrunner Hands, prayers for you and your community Yes. I second this! thanks, it is truly horrible. ![]() I know it's really easy to dwell on what happened, especially from the LGBT perspective, as a set-back. But the response I have seen is the exact opposite. One person's terrible actions don't really reflect how far we have come. But we still have a long way to go. The important and really beautiful thing is that we are not helpless. We simply need to go out of our way to love one another, unconditionally. I saw a small piece on the response of the entire Orlando area. Things like blood donations and such. It is true that in times of tragedy there is courage, hope, kindness and love. It may take a bit to see it, but it is there. Yes, it is nice to see that the vast majority of people have responded with kindness and love. One of the things that troubles me is that this sort of thing is almsot becoming routine. In fact, the news interviewed a woman standing in one of the long lines for blood donation and asked her why she came out; she said something to the effect that when she first heard the report it was "only" 20 people killed and that didn't seem like a "big" deal, but when the number reached 50, that was a big deal and she wanted to help. If 20 people being massacred is not a big deal anymore, we are really screwed up! |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by Asalzwed I had an excellent marathon on Sunday! I am really excited to write about it and will as soon as I can. The short of it, I ran a 3:08-something and an 8th place finish on the women's side. It was a PR by a couple minutes as well. HUGE Congrats!!!! Can't wait to read about it ![]() As for the Orlando... I do hope that things will eventually change. It's super sad it has to take so many lives until something happens :/ |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by popsracer Originally posted by marysia83 Originally posted by DaveL This past weekend I volunteered on the Ride to Conquer Cancer as a Bike Tech. The ride itself is 2 days, 200km total and 4253 participants raised $17.3M for cancer research. The Saturday was quite hot and also windy which added to the challenge for many of the riders. Sunday was a little cooler but still sunny clear skys. My bike tech partner and I rode the course while fixing at least a dozen flat tires, booted a few shredded tires, fixed a number of dropped and chain sucked chains and offered encouragement to dozens of riders. This is so great! Both: raising funds for the research, and your volunteer work ![]() ![]() How did your swim go? Did you experience much contact? Thanks for checking - I will have the report soon. The race was a blast!!! Two most important points: 1) I loved the swim part! 2) I enjoyed the swim more than running! The whole contact/crowd thing was actually a lots of fun ![]() My sighting was excellent - to my surprise, because I only tried maybe twice in the pool and I failed miserably. It came so natural, as if I was born with this. I really, really enjoyed it. It was unbelievable. I also had an approach of: slow, relaxing pace, just take it easy. And I can imagine it helped. I did not set any time goals for swim leg, thus, it was a great surprise for me to see I made it in 16:28 (my swim time in pool was 18:30 and I thought it would be closer to 20 minutes in open water. I swam this distance in 24 minutes in breaststroke last year). I thought I missed one of the lanes, it was such a shocker ![]() Anyways, THANK YOU for your support! It was an awesome experience and a lesson for me that I should not worry about such silly things. I should focus on enjoying the race ![]() |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by Jet Black Originally posted by TXTriRook Sounds like a tough weekend of racing in Boulder! To echo everyone's comments, I hope everyone's feeling nothing more than a little stiff and maybe a little hungover ![]() ![]() You just need more practice getting that bottle. Swap a few times a ride just to get that muscle memory. I'm riding up with 3mar sometime Saturday, not sure when we'll get there yet. Maybe we should plan to meet for dinner after picking up packets. Dinner sounds good. You ever been to Lubbock / done this race? It'll be my first time. I'm with the rest of you that I should be able to master it with practice but unfortunately most of my bike training is on my road bike on Zwift. I do have an aero mounted bottle and 1 on the frame as well so I'm thinking with 1 refill on the bike I should be able to get enough fluids in. |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by Asalzwed I had an excellent marathon on Sunday! I am really excited to write about it and will as soon as I can. The short of it, I ran a 3:08-something and an 8th place finish on the women's side. It was a PR by a couple minutes as well. Looking like a great day all around there! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by marysia83 Originally posted by jmkizer ^^I thought the same thing. Originally posted by rrrunner So here's the latest on the coaching conundrum... I talked to Justin, the ultra guy. He was quite honest that he doesn't know the first thing about writing a bike plan and told me to go with the Ironman guy and that a 50 mile plan is similar to a marathon plan with longer long runs. Well yeah but... So I text Scott, the Ironman guy, and he apologized for not having gotten the info to me (it's been two weeks) and said he'd have it within 48 hours. I responded that I am still contemplating writing my own plan and that I would understand if he didn't want to spend the time putting together a proposal since I might decide not to hire him at this time. He said it's no problem and that he hopes to get to it tonight. So there we are. Well, at least Justin was honest with you. If you decide to go down that path at later time, he seems receptive so that is good. Michi is a no go? Uhhh hmm. I obviously missed the background info on this but it definitely sounds like a big fat no on both. I don't see why you can't write your own. Hmm BT is going a little wonky with quoting Mind is wanting to say something as well, but can't remember enough of the background in either to really be sure. Like timing of the events, or notable things about the courses (from a training perspective). Don't know if anything has changed or updated with this. Mind keeps coming back to it. If you want a coach, I do lean towards one with ultra experience. I'm also really wondering about needing a coach that much for the bike. It's possible that part is being overthought though a refresh on the background could help there. A metric century is a ways, but it's not really a crazy distance. Just having a bike set up to fit you well and the experience of going long with anything can do a lot. I know I ride a lot, but Adrienne managed to do over 200 miles in a single ride before. If I looked at the right course, it seemed like there was a lot of downhill in the last 10-12 miles or so too. For me, at least, run endurance makes it easier to get bike fitness. I hope that makes sense. I mean, if you can run x hours, it seems easier to build up the time in the saddle. That being said, if you were to focus on the ultra, you'd still need a few days a week on the bike. Maybe shorter during the week and a longer day on the weekend. I don't think that you'll have a hard time finding hills to work. It looks like your 100k has one big climb from 33-50 so if you could ride a 2-4% grade for that long... Also, I think there is a rest stop during the climb portion so you have a built in break. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I’m behind here after a busy weekend and all morning meeting (blarg!). Edited to fix formatting. Edited by jmkizer 2016-06-13 2:25 PM |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Speaking of hydration and electorlytes -- Do any of you use Base Salt? Thoughts? |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by DaveL This past weekend I volunteered on the Ride to Conquer Cancer as a Bike Tech. The ride itself is 2 days, 200km total and 4253 participants raised $17.3M for cancer research. The Saturday was quite hot and also windy which added to the challenge for many of the riders. Sunday was a little cooler but still sunny clear skys. My bike tech partner and I rode the course while fixing at least a dozen flat tires, booted a few shredded tires, fixed a number of dropped and chain sucked chains and offered encouragement to dozens of riders. X2 that is really awesome of you. It was crazy hot on Saturday and i was wondering if it was ever a tail wind for you out there. Even Sunday was quite windy. My director at work was out doing it. He's done it several times but this year was particular because his wife just returned to work after treatment for breast cancer. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by Asalzwed I had an excellent marathon on Sunday! I am really excited to write about it and will as soon as I can. The short of it, I ran a 3:08-something and an 8th place finish on the women's side. It was a PR by a couple minutes as well. WOW! Awesome work out there :D |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by marysia83 Originally posted by mtnbikerchk I am speechless Originally posted by amd723 I've been searching for the words to express how I feel - and I just can't I'm so overwhelmed. Originally posted by fortissimo Originally posted by rrrunner Hands, prayers for you and your community Yes. I second this! thanks, it is truly horrible. ![]() I know it's really easy to dwell on what happened, especially from the LGBT perspective, as a set-back. But the response I have seen is the exact opposite. One person's terrible actions don't really reflect how far we have come. But we still have a long way to go. The important and really beautiful thing is that we are not helpless. We simply need to go out of our way to love one another, unconditionally. I got a call from a VM from a friend whose grandson is gay. She said that she was just speaking to him and his mom (who has been crying for hours out of fear for her son--in general because he is gay and could be a target, not because he was involved). She felt the need to call and tell us how sorry she was. I totally appreciate the sentiment, but this is not about LGBTQ in my opinion. This is about one person's hate and lack of understanding. Chris' instagram said it well. "Reach out with interest...find common ground" Hurting another does nothing to further your life, health or wealth. We all have prejudices and judgments. But when you recognize them, turn them around to understanding and love. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Way to go Dave on your volunteering for the Ride. It is on my bucket list to do one day. Congrats Robyn on a great race despite all the mishaps. Hope all is well today. Sorry to hear Yanti and Kingsley DNF'd but sounds like some tough conditions there as well! |
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