Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois (Page 61)

What a pretty place and WOW, great job  opportunity.

Has  anyone been following the trail runner Dave Mackey's story? Geeze. 

TL;DR Version to save you some google-time

2004: Ultra Runner of the Year USATF

2005: Ultra Runner of the Year USATF

2007: R2R2R FKT

2011: North America Ultra Runner of the Year, 

2015: Took a (horrific) fall on bear peak, mangling his leg 

He underwent something like 7 surgeries shortly after the accident and they were able to save his leg.

He's since had several more surgeries and rehab. Surgeries and rehab. But made the decision to amputate (which took place yesterday)

I can't imagine making that decision! 

OK, all this privacy/stalking talk moved me to lock down my BT blog to only people I want (mainly manatees).  If anyone can't see my blog who wants to, please let me know and I'll add you, but I think I got all active/semi-active manatees that communicate.

I try to keep mine open to those in the group, but tend to limit things to about that. Had some issue before with 1 or 2 people in trying to add them. Think they had already set theirs and somehow I couldn't friend them. Seemed a bit odd.

I did hear back from Strava. Seems like any club/challenge/leaderboard we join will have our public workouts in the activity section. Request to Follow does limit some of the data shown, but not nearly as much as thought. There are public and private clubs, so asked for clarification on that. Sure hope the private is members only as one would think. No one except you can see a private workout regardless of what club/challenge/leaderboard is joined. Likewise for the privacy zone, no one but you should be able to see within it.

Ah!  I hadn't really thought about the challenges.  I may stop joining those.

Originally posted by StaceyK

Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by StaceyK So how does one train to get better at burning fat?

I don't know that one should train specifically to get better at burning fat, but rather to train appropriately in general and then for the race in mind, and let something like this come to where it does as a result of that training. Could work into one of those logical fallacies, getting in one's own way again. Remember that just getting into better shape can raise up everything.

Oh so just training in the first place would help then

Some people are trying to science around that, but not quite there yet.

Originally posted by cdban66 Ben - I think at one time I couldn't see your logs here, not sure at the moment. I had figured you are a fairly private person so it wasn't a concern for me. I can see you kicking my butt on Strava anyway The entire discussion filters across all social media, so...

Well, I'm not doing nearly as much now as I have in the past. You should be able to see as you've been with the group longer than I have. Did turn it off to everyone a couple times with other stuff going on and only dropped a few people who haven't been on in forever and likely weren't big posters in the first place. I don't really blog things like others tend to, sticking to more basic (& efficient   workout details. But by all means, questions about anything I've done are welcome as it's still not always obvious what I'm doing. I did have someone ask a ways back why every ride looked the same, as they all showed up at 2-2.5 hrs a number of days a week, but then pointed out the TSS listed there explaining how it was related to stress or intensity. Even without much familiarity it's rather apparent that a number like 150-160 is much more than 100 or so. The runs have something similar now. All look the same with pace and BT might not pick up the manual intervals (vs the automatic mile ones). Overall it looks like another day of 9+ min miles, but some detail to that is 3 short (30-60") harder efforts up some steep hills and then half a mile up a more gradual one. Strava Adjusted (GAP) pace puts the short ones near 6'/mile and the longer one ~6:45. Actual pace was notably slower due to the steep grade in sections, but the run now appears quite a bit different than a steady low 9' pace! In Daniels speak it would be an abbreviated R-Pace & T-Pace set.

Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by cdban66 Ben - I think at one time I couldn't see your logs here, not sure at the moment. I had figured you are a fairly private person so it wasn't a concern for me. I can see you kicking my butt on Strava anyway The entire discussion filters across all social media, so...

Well, I'm not doing nearly as much now as I have in the past. You should be able to see as you've been with the group longer than I have. Did turn it off to everyone a couple times with other stuff going on and only dropped a few people who haven't been on in forever and likely weren't big posters in the first place. I don't really blog things like others tend to, sticking to more basic (& efficient   workout details. But by all means, questions about anything I've done are welcome as it's still not always obvious what I'm doing. I did have someone ask a ways back why every ride looked the same, as they all showed up at 2-2.5 hrs a number of days a week, but then pointed out the TSS listed there explaining how it was related to stress or intensity. Even without much familiarity it's rather apparent that a number like 150-160 is much more than 100 or so. The runs have something similar now. All look the same with pace and BT might not pick up the manual intervals (vs the automatic mile ones). Overall it looks like another day of 9+ min miles, but some detail to that is 3 short (30-60") harder efforts up some steep hills and then half a mile up a more gradual one. Strava Adjusted (GAP) pace puts the short ones near 6'/mile and the longer one ~6:45. Actual pace was notably slower due to the steep grade in sections, but the run now appears quite a bit different than a steady low 9' pace! In Daniels speak it would be an abbreviated R-Pace & T-Pace set.

The whole privacy conversation has been interesting to me. I find that my motivations for using any of these apps is more social in many regards than training improvement or tracking related. I think that aspect is a tangible part of the growth and use for many. We are able to "connect" with "our people" if you will. I think the psychology is not lost on the site designers and owners. The privacy part is merely an afterthought to the ownership.

Make no mistake, in the end it boils down to $$$. How did Google or Facebook get so big? They figured out that knowledge has value. They figured out that your past internet use can be used to drive your future purchases. Value.  While we may struggle with the privacy/stalker/safety issue, they continue to present running shoe sales and bike parts and swim gear to triathletes, all the while presenting high heeled shoes and dresses to TW. 

I guess my point is that only when safety and security becomes a boiling point for a large portion of society will we have the builders, designers and visionaries working on it as well. Until then, do the best you can, be aware, and be prepared. Heck, this discussion has been going on since the first phone book was published.

Yeah, I let them know that this was concerning how easy it is to misunderstand. I mean, we have people in research, documentation, and law here, but still didn't know all this. And that fears are not unfounded as criminal action has happened to direct friends (not vague friend of friend) and even against members of the group here. So mun fun potential, but people do get hurt.

Talk to me about resting heart rate.

First thing in the morning?

The lowest number or the first number? 

I have an $8 pulse oximeter that I can put on my finger to get my pulse.  I used to keep it by my bed and check it every morning.  I did this for over six months and then realized that this data was not useful to me so I stopped.  Now I'm working with someone who would like me to track this.

Anyway, when I first put it on this morning before getting out of bed, it said 55 and then dropped to 54.  I laid there a bit more and looked again and it said 51 but then jump back up and kept flipping between 54 and 55.  So should I put in 51 or 55 or 55? 

Interesting. The only thing I have ever read about taking your RHR is to take it before you get out of bed before any physical activity. I thought the difference b/w the 55 and 51 might be you waking up to an alarm and then relaxing afterwards, but if  after hitting the low at 51 it then goes back to 54 or 55, I'd think that is your range. Which one? I'd just pick one 

Is that oximeter showing live values or giving back a single reading, like a thermometer might? I'd probably go with the lowest that appeared with some regularity, so still a bit vague and dependent on the answer.

Talk to me about resting heart rate.

First thing in the morning?

The lowest number or the first number? 

I have an $8 pulse oximeter that I can put on my finger to get my pulse.  I used to keep it by my bed and check it every morning.  I did this for over six months and then realized that this data was not useful to me so I stopped.  Now I'm working with someone who would like me to track this.

Anyway, when I first put it on this morning before getting out of bed, it said 55 and then dropped to 54.  I laid there a bit more and looked again and it said 51 but then jump back up and kept flipping between 54 and 55.  So should I put in 51 or 55 or 55? 

Were you laying down when you took any of the readings?  I wonder if sitting quietly at your desk at work, say, would give a different number than laying still in bed. As for what number to use, maybe take an average of those 3 numbers?  I think I'd be more inclined to use a number like they get in the doctor's office, like after you are sitting quietly for about 10 minutes or so over a laying in bed prone number.  Just my thought.  Perhaps ask the person you are getting the numbers for when/how he prefers you take the reading.

Talk to me about resting heart rate.

First thing in the morning?

The lowest number or the first number? 

I have an $8 pulse oximeter that I can put on my finger to get my pulse.  I used to keep it by my bed and check it every morning.  I did this for over six months and then realized that this data was not useful to me so I stopped.  Now I'm working with someone who would like me to track this.

Anyway, when I first put it on this morning before getting out of bed, it said 55 and then dropped to 54.  I laid there a bit more and looked again and it said 51 but then jump back up and kept flipping between 54 and 55.  So should I put in 51 or 55 or 55?