Manatees - 2019 Edition - Practice Maximum Enthusiasm - CLOSED (Page 62)

What is the cost point people are thinking about for the T-shirts. I looked but couldn't find where we had finalized that.

Has anyone made shirts and have a good site?

Has anyone started this project?

I can but I need the above answered.

Robin, talk to Adam about IM 70.3 Virginia if you don't want to do Chattanooga.  I guess Gulf Coast could be an option for you as well. It was a rough swim this year but I don't think that's typical.

I'm not sure that we have discussed price. Custom Ink seems to be a decent place to order if we do something online. I think that Lisa said that she has used them before. They have a low minimum order and a free design tool so that's good. I have played with the site and made some designs but then we got bogged down in "what are the manatee colors" and stopped making progress. I wasn't so into the "black and blue" so it may be my fault.

$30 is fine with me. If we are going to wear the shirt for the photo but not run in them, any kind of shirt is fine with me.

This is as far as I got.

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I am impressed at your fortitude! Well done!

One more follow-up comment. While it's probably neither here nor there but Jordan Rapp was hired by Zwift partially do develop some tri-related stuff.  A few months back on Slowtwitch, he said, "Working on triathlon plans. Certainly that's a very obvious goal and definitely a part of why I was hired. "

Of course being good at triathlon is not the same as helping others be good at triathlon. I just thought that it was interesting.

Great Floridian is in my neck of the woods and uses the roads i use when i want hill training. I've not done the race, but know a lot about it b/c of its proximity to me and from those who have raced it. It is way different than Gulf Coast, eg, CG swim is ocean and can be really rough. GF is a lake swim and unless wind is crazy will be a smooth swim; CG bike is flat, GF is hilly. Don't let the Florida thing fool you, Clermont has hills. Not mountains, but shortish steep hills. Out of towners are usually surprised by them. Run : both are flat ( i believe), though in years past GF was on the multi-use trail and there is some elevation on it, so not completely flat!

So you have 2 pretty different races to choose from! In addition, don't expect the crowds and hoopla at GF as you get from an IM branded race. The race entry is small and you will not have crowds cheering you on.  So, if that makes a difference to you, consider that.

To add to the factors to consider - Sufferfest has free training plans with a subscription. It has it for various stand alone bike stuff as well as triathlon plans. For example,  I will soon start a bike plan that will work on strengthening the weakness identified in my 4DP test.  They also just launched a customized training plan program that is -as I understand it, someplace b/w a can plan and 1 on 1 coaching and really inexpensive. 

So, lots of things for you to consider! have fun with that 

I understand. The trainer is a tool that I use if the weather is bad or the workout is short enough that "it's not worth it" to ride in traffic for 20 minutes before I can start my workout. Intervals are often better done on the trainer anyway.

I honestly think that all three programs are quite good and any of them could work for you. It's kind of a good-better-best choice with the differences being up to the individual's preferences and/or technology setup. 

Smart versus non-smart trainers: I know that Adam uses Zwift on a non-smart trainer and I think that Jim uses The Sufferfest on a non-smart trainer. I listen to the TrainerRoad podcast and I know that they have discussed using TR on a non-smart trainer so there is that.

Mac/Windows/iOS/Android: This is the next consideration -- what kind of device do you plan to use to run this program and how much horsepower does the program require? My sense is that Zwift requires the most horsepower from your machine and graphics card.

System Requirements:

• Trainer Road: Mac, Windows, iOS, Android
• The Sufferfest: Mac, Windows, iOS
• Zwift: Mac, Windows, iOS, AppleTV

I am a little familiar with Clermont. I have been there and done some biking. Yep, hills. I can train for those here, though. I have a friend who lives there so that is a plus. The IM hoo hah would be great, but not necessary for me. I would HATE the swim they had at GC this year.  I had intended to do the race near here, now called Oconeeman. But like its predecessor, is not a great race for a variety of reasons. I just need to be done with any big training and racing well before May. I had also looked into HIIT races. I did one near you once. I was not impressed with the new race director so that is off the list.

Clearly you need to to the Chattanooga 70.3! We can make it a Manatee thing ;-)

Ack! Sorry the job hunt is dragging on.

Regarding the trainer stuff, I'm thinking that The Sufferfest and Trainer Road would probably be the best fit for you. Both have training plans. Trainer Road is closet to what you are doing now, just mount your phone to your handlebars and go. Provide your own entertainment. They have bike and tri plans. I think that Randee and Lisa both use TR. 

The Sufferefest has bike and tri programs with yoga/strength to complement those. If you want to check it out, The Sufferfest has a one week trial (automatically cancels after one week so you don't even have to worry about autopay).

Good points, all! If your coach is giving you structured workouts, Zwift and Trainer Road both support that -- they have tools for you to add them to their software. If you are looking to do workouts in one of the programs own plans, all three offer that.