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No, you have picky eater company in me! To begin with, I just don't really have a sweet tooth. Never have. Most of the time, anything sweeter than fruit or dark chocolate (75% plus cocoa) just tastes disgusting and nauseating to me. Then there's the consistency of gu--I'm a world-class gagger, and race-day adrenaline, high effort level, and heat make things worse. I'm self-sufficient for nutrition in all my races because--really--I can only get down three types of gu in a race situation--PowerBar Tangerine, Hammer Apple Cinnamon, and Gu GingerAde. Everything else has come back up. (You definitely don't want to be drafting ME on the bike!) I pretty much rely on a big bar of dark chocolate eaten in small increments on the bike, with a couple of backup gus, and then go to PowerBar gu on the run. That and the Hammer gus seem to have a thinner consistency that goes down better. (Not sure why the thicker GingerAde goes down--maybe the ginger counteracts nausea?) I can also do bananas on the bike, but they're not nearly as portable or easy to get down while staying aero.

It will be interesting to figure out nutrition for full IM. That is A LOT of chocolate. When I do long bike tours in Asia, I eat a lot of these sticky rice things wrapped in banana leaves. Since it's IM Malaysia, wondering if I could somehow score some and eat it on the bike. But that would be hard to practice when training in the US, and a bit random for comfort!


2018-06-05 7:45 AM
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Originally posted by glfprncs Happy Sunday afternoon Manatees! I have a bike tech. question, so if that is your forte, please chime in. Also, please note: I am ridiculously clueless with regards to anything technical. I only know what I wrote below because I can google. If I used incorrect terminology, please correct me so I don't make the same mistake again. I ride a 2010 Felt B16. It has Shimano 105 components (10 speed) including an FSA chainring, 175mm, with 53/39T setup. The rear derailleur is a short cage, and the spec sheet online says the rear cassette is 11-25T. I find too often that I wish I had another gear when climbing. On yesterday's ride, I found myself grinding it out at low RPM and 250+ watts on too many climbs. I stopped at my LBS on my way home to drop my bike off for her annual 'tune' but also asked them about different options for gearing. They claim I have an 11-23T rear cassette and that my only option would be to upgrade it to either an 11-25T or a 12-25T and that the bike wouldn't allow for an 27T cassette without changing the derailleur. In reading online, the Shimano 105 short cage derailleur has either 29 or 33 teeth (I can't fine a definitive answer on which) and that if I subtract the difference in teeth from my front crankset and the difference in my rear cassette, as long as that number is less than 29 OR 33, I should be able to make the switch. I'd like an 11-27T or 12-27T if possible. That should be doable, right, even if the short cage derailleur only has space for 29? Also, I RARELY ride my hardest gear. If I went from the 11 teeth sprocket to the 12 to make sure I have enough room on the derailleur, would I potentially regret it?

I did some calculations based on what I found from ABI. A 12-27 would be fine, and 27 is as big as you can go. I don't think a 11 vs 12 tooth rear is going to affect you, since you rarely use the highest gear ratio, and probably don't "spin out" on it. An 11-27 won't work with your FSA chainring, although if you wanted to get nuts I guess you could start shrinking the chainrings up front. I'm guessing that is not in your wishlist though. A Shimano 105 12-27 cassette is available from REI for about $50.

 Please note that I consulted the Internet on some of this, so use at your own risk




Chris,

Thank you SO much for this!! I printed it and am taking it to my LBS this afternoon.
2018-06-05 7:48 AM
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A teammate posted this, thought that I'd share:




The Clif Bloks in Ginger Ale are amAzing!!!! I first encountered them last year at Augusta 70.3 and then started using them this winter while training for my marathon. I'm still using them on the run, and I agree about wanting to eat them as a snack. I've walked past the box of them sitting on top of my refrigerator more than once and wanted to grab one just to eat.
2018-06-05 10:10 AM
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Originally posted by Hot Runner No, you have picky eater company in me! To begin with, I just don't really have a sweet tooth. Never have. Most of the time, anything sweeter than fruit or dark chocolate (75% plus cocoa) just tastes disgusting and nauseating to me. Then there's the consistency of gu--I'm a world-class gagger, and race-day adrenaline, high effort level, and heat make things worse. I'm self-sufficient for nutrition in all my races because--really--I can only get down three types of gu in a race situation--PowerBar Tangerine, Hammer Apple Cinnamon, and Gu GingerAde. Everything else has come back up. (You definitely don't want to be drafting ME on the bike!) I pretty much rely on a big bar of dark chocolate eaten in small increments on the bike, with a couple of backup gus, and then go to PowerBar gu on the run. That and the Hammer gus seem to have a thinner consistency that goes down better. (Not sure why the thicker GingerAde goes down--maybe the ginger counteracts nausea?) I can also do bananas on the bike, but they're not nearly as portable or easy to get down while staying aero. It will be interesting to figure out nutrition for full IM. That is A LOT of chocolate. When I do long bike tours in Asia, I eat a lot of these sticky rice things wrapped in banana leaves. Since it's IM Malaysia, wondering if I could somehow score some and eat it on the bike. But that would be hard to practice when training in the US, and a bit random for comfort!

Does the chocolate melt?
OK sticky rice things sound awesome. I've heard of pro riders eating something like that. Could you make your own version?

I've had luck with Infinit Nutrition custom blends for the bike (so easy, just sip a concentrated blend + water every 15 minutes and I don't get hungry for HOURS), but even then I need something to "chew" on in the last 20 miles or so. Sports Beans and PayDay candy bars have been good to me but only on the bike.

2018-06-05 10:27 AM
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Originally posted by lisac957

Originally posted by Hot Runner No, you have picky eater company in me! To begin with, I just don't really have a sweet tooth. Never have. Most of the time, anything sweeter than fruit or dark chocolate (75% plus cocoa) just tastes disgusting and nauseating to me. Then there's the consistency of gu--I'm a world-class gagger, and race-day adrenaline, high effort level, and heat make things worse. I'm self-sufficient for nutrition in all my races because--really--I can only get down three types of gu in a race situation--PowerBar Tangerine, Hammer Apple Cinnamon, and Gu GingerAde. Everything else has come back up. (You definitely don't want to be drafting ME on the bike!) I pretty much rely on a big bar of dark chocolate eaten in small increments on the bike, with a couple of backup gus, and then go to PowerBar gu on the run. That and the Hammer gus seem to have a thinner consistency that goes down better. (Not sure why the thicker GingerAde goes down--maybe the ginger counteracts nausea?) I can also do bananas on the bike, but they're not nearly as portable or easy to get down while staying aero. It will be interesting to figure out nutrition for full IM. That is A LOT of chocolate. When I do long bike tours in Asia, I eat a lot of these sticky rice things wrapped in banana leaves. Since it's IM Malaysia, wondering if I could somehow score some and eat it on the bike. But that would be hard to practice when training in the US, and a bit random for comfort!

Does the chocolate melt?
OK sticky rice things sound awesome. I've heard of pro riders eating something like that. Could you make your own version?

I've had luck with Infinit Nutrition custom blends for the bike (so easy, just sip a concentrated blend + water every 15 minutes and I don't get hungry for HOURS), but even then I need something to "chew" on in the last 20 miles or so. Sports Beans and PayDay candy bars have been good to me but only on the bike.




I just ordered Infinit's Go Far after hearing nothing but positive reviews on it. I'm racing a 70.3 in 2 months so I'm hoping to get a few trial runs with it before committing to it on race day. I also grabbed a few Clif Shot gels and blocks hoping that I won't have issues using whatever's provided on course. I've previously used EFS drink mix and Scratch Labs but I'm not sure those give me the carbs I'm going to need for a longer race. From what I've read it seems the general rule of thumb is about 50g of carbs and 800mg of soduim per hour. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
2018-06-05 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by Hot Runner

No, you have picky eater company in me! To begin with, I just don't really have a sweet tooth. Never have. Most of the time, anything sweeter than fruit or dark chocolate (75% plus cocoa) just tastes disgusting and nauseating to me. Then there's the consistency of gu--I'm a world-class gagger, and race-day adrenaline, high effort level, and heat make things worse. I'm self-sufficient for nutrition in all my races because--really--I can only get down three types of gu in a race situation--PowerBar Tangerine, Hammer Apple Cinnamon, and Gu GingerAde. Everything else has come back up. (You definitely don't want to be drafting ME on the bike!) I pretty much rely on a big bar of dark chocolate eaten in small increments on the bike, with a couple of backup gus, and then go to PowerBar gu on the run. That and the Hammer gus seem to have a thinner consistency that goes down better. (Not sure why the thicker GingerAde goes down--maybe the ginger counteracts nausea?) I can also do bananas on the bike, but they're not nearly as portable or easy to get down while staying aero.

It will be interesting to figure out nutrition for full IM. That is A LOT of chocolate. When I do long bike tours in Asia, I eat a lot of these sticky rice things wrapped in banana leaves. Since it's IM Malaysia, wondering if I could somehow score some and eat it on the bike. But that would be hard to practice when training in the US, and a bit random for comfort!


I have a few tri friends who make and use some of the items found in "The Feed Zone Portables" cook book. I've tried them and they're quite tasty. A few favorites are: Blueberry & Chocolate Coconut Rice Cakes, the "Date & Almond Rice Balls," "Cherry Chocolate Sticky Bites," "Bitter Chocolate and Sea Salt Sticky Bites." Might be worth a try.


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Originally posted by Hot Runner No, you have picky eater company in me! To begin with, I just don't really have a sweet tooth. Never have. Most of the time, anything sweeter than fruit or dark chocolate (75% plus cocoa) just tastes disgusting and nauseating to me. Then there's the consistency of gu--I'm a world-class gagger, and race-day adrenaline, high effort level, and heat make things worse. I'm self-sufficient for nutrition in all my races because--really--I can only get down three types of gu in a race situation--PowerBar Tangerine, Hammer Apple Cinnamon, and Gu GingerAde. Everything else has come back up. (You definitely don't want to be drafting ME on the bike!) I pretty much rely on a big bar of dark chocolate eaten in small increments on the bike, with a couple of backup gus, and then go to PowerBar gu on the run. That and the Hammer gus seem to have a thinner consistency that goes down better. (Not sure why the thicker GingerAde goes down--maybe the ginger counteracts nausea?) I can also do bananas on the bike, but they're not nearly as portable or easy to get down while staying aero. It will be interesting to figure out nutrition for full IM. That is A LOT of chocolate. When I do long bike tours in Asia, I eat a lot of these sticky rice things wrapped in banana leaves. Since it's IM Malaysia, wondering if I could somehow score some and eat it on the bike. But that would be hard to practice when training in the US, and a bit random for comfort!
I have a few tri friends who make and use some of the items found in "The Feed Zone Portables" cook book. I've tried them and they're quite tasty. A few favorites are: Blueberry & Chocolate Coconut Rice Cakes, the "Date & Almond Rice Balls," "Cherry Chocolate Sticky Bites," "Bitter Chocolate and Sea Salt Sticky Bites." Might be worth a try.

Recipes:

https://feedzonecookbook.com/2013/07/30/the-best-portable-snacks-for-ultrarunners/

Bad links in that one. This one seems to work:

https://www.velopress.com/the-best-aid-station-foods-for-ultramarathoners/



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Originally posted by cdban66

Originally posted by glfprncs Happy Sunday afternoon Manatees! I have a bike tech. question, so if that is your forte, please chime in. Also, please note: I am ridiculously clueless with regards to anything technical. I only know what I wrote below because I can google. If I used incorrect terminology, please correct me so I don't make the same mistake again. I ride a 2010 Felt B16. It has Shimano 105 components (10 speed) including an FSA chainring, 175mm, with 53/39T setup. The rear derailleur is a short cage, and the spec sheet online says the rear cassette is 11-25T. I find too often that I wish I had another gear when climbing. On yesterday's ride, I found myself grinding it out at low RPM and 250+ watts on too many climbs. I stopped at my LBS on my way home to drop my bike off for her annual 'tune' but also asked them about different options for gearing. They claim I have an 11-23T rear cassette and that my only option would be to upgrade it to either an 11-25T or a 12-25T and that the bike wouldn't allow for an 27T cassette without changing the derailleur. In reading online, the Shimano 105 short cage derailleur has either 29 or 33 teeth (I can't fine a definitive answer on which) and that if I subtract the difference in teeth from my front crankset and the difference in my rear cassette, as long as that number is less than 29 OR 33, I should be able to make the switch. I'd like an 11-27T or 12-27T if possible. That should be doable, right, even if the short cage derailleur only has space for 29? Also, I RARELY ride my hardest gear. If I went from the 11 teeth sprocket to the 12 to make sure I have enough room on the derailleur, would I potentially regret it?

I did some calculations based on what I found from ABI. A 12-27 would be fine, and 27 is as big as you can go. I don't think a 11 vs 12 tooth rear is going to affect you, since you rarely use the highest gear ratio, and probably don't "spin out" on it. An 11-27 won't work with your FSA chainring, although if you wanted to get nuts I guess you could start shrinking the chainrings up front. I'm guessing that is not in your wishlist though. A Shimano 105 12-27 cassette is available from REI for about $50.

 Please note that I consulted the Internet on some of this, so use at your own risk

Chris, Thank you SO much for this!! I printed it and am taking it to my LBS this afternoon.

I hope it helped.

2018-06-06 9:55 AM
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Originally posted by glfprncs
Originally posted by Hot Runner No, you have picky eater company in me! To begin with, I just don't really have a sweet tooth. Never have. Most of the time, anything sweeter than fruit or dark chocolate (75% plus cocoa) just tastes disgusting and nauseating to me. Then there's the consistency of gu--I'm a world-class gagger, and race-day adrenaline, high effort level, and heat make things worse. I'm self-sufficient for nutrition in all my races because--really--I can only get down three types of gu in a race situation--PowerBar Tangerine, Hammer Apple Cinnamon, and Gu GingerAde. Everything else has come back up. (You definitely don't want to be drafting ME on the bike!) I pretty much rely on a big bar of dark chocolate eaten in small increments on the bike, with a couple of backup gus, and then go to PowerBar gu on the run. That and the Hammer gus seem to have a thinner consistency that goes down better. (Not sure why the thicker GingerAde goes down--maybe the ginger counteracts nausea?) I can also do bananas on the bike, but they're not nearly as portable or easy to get down while staying aero. It will be interesting to figure out nutrition for full IM. That is A LOT of chocolate. When I do long bike tours in Asia, I eat a lot of these sticky rice things wrapped in banana leaves. Since it's IM Malaysia, wondering if I could somehow score some and eat it on the bike. But that would be hard to practice when training in the US, and a bit random for comfort!
I have a few tri friends who make and use some of the items found in "The Feed Zone Portables" cook book. I've tried them and they're quite tasty. A few favorites are: Blueberry & Chocolate Coconut Rice Cakes, the "Date & Almond Rice Balls," "Cherry Chocolate Sticky Bites," "Bitter Chocolate and Sea Salt Sticky Bites." Might be worth a try.

Recipes:

https://feedzonecookbook.com/2013/07/30/the-best-portable-snacks-for-ultrarunners/

Bad links in that one. This one seems to work:

https://www.velopress.com/the-best-aid-station-foods-for-ultramarathoners/




I've used it all, tried it all, eat it all!!

For long bike rides (and both ims) used Infinit. Interesting at my Oly this weekend I'm not sure the Infinit sat well so we'll play with that. But the ease of just remembering to get down a bottle an hour for a hot race is key for me once you nail down your calories and electrolytes.

The feed zone portables are awesome, yes but melting, carrying and unwrapping on the bike are problems for me - guess I'm not that coordinated. I may use more of that this year. LOVE PBJ rice cakes!

FYI the Infinit GO FAR has protein and the Speed formula does not. The theory is that protein will trick you into thinking you're not hungry. However on the run it can back fire if you're body is trying to digest too much protein and upsets your stomach. Just a heads up. I've played with both and typically did GO FAR on the bike but saved a last bottle of SPEED to get ready to run.
2018-06-06 11:14 AM
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Originally posted by mtnbikerchk
Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by glfprncs
Originally posted by Hot Runner No, you have picky eater company in me! To begin with, I just don't really have a sweet tooth. Never have. Most of the time, anything sweeter than fruit or dark chocolate (75% plus cocoa) just tastes disgusting and nauseating to me. Then there's the consistency of gu--I'm a world-class gagger, and race-day adrenaline, high effort level, and heat make things worse. I'm self-sufficient for nutrition in all my races because--really--I can only get down three types of gu in a race situation--PowerBar Tangerine, Hammer Apple Cinnamon, and Gu GingerAde. Everything else has come back up. (You definitely don't want to be drafting ME on the bike!) I pretty much rely on a big bar of dark chocolate eaten in small increments on the bike, with a couple of backup gus, and then go to PowerBar gu on the run. That and the Hammer gus seem to have a thinner consistency that goes down better. (Not sure why the thicker GingerAde goes down--maybe the ginger counteracts nausea?) I can also do bananas on the bike, but they're not nearly as portable or easy to get down while staying aero. It will be interesting to figure out nutrition for full IM. That is A LOT of chocolate. When I do long bike tours in Asia, I eat a lot of these sticky rice things wrapped in banana leaves. Since it's IM Malaysia, wondering if I could somehow score some and eat it on the bike. But that would be hard to practice when training in the US, and a bit random for comfort!
I have a few tri friends who make and use some of the items found in "The Feed Zone Portables" cook book. I've tried them and they're quite tasty. A few favorites are: Blueberry & Chocolate Coconut Rice Cakes, the "Date & Almond Rice Balls," "Cherry Chocolate Sticky Bites," "Bitter Chocolate and Sea Salt Sticky Bites." Might be worth a try.

Recipes:

https://feedzonecookbook.com/2013/07/30/the-best-portable-snacks-for-ultrarunners/

Bad links in that one. This one seems to work:

https://www.velopress.com/the-best-aid-station-foods-for-ultramarathoners/

I've used it all, tried it all, eat it all!! For long bike rides (and both ims) used Infinit. Interesting at my Oly this weekend I'm not sure the Infinit sat well so we'll play with that. But the ease of just remembering to get down a bottle an hour for a hot race is key for me once you nail down your calories and electrolytes. The feed zone portables are awesome, yes but melting, carrying and unwrapping on the bike are problems for me - guess I'm not that coordinated. I may use more of that this year. LOVE PBJ rice cakes! FYI the Infinit GO FAR has protein and the Speed formula does not. The theory is that protein will trick you into thinking you're not hungry. However on the run it can back fire if you're body is trying to digest too much protein and upsets your stomach. Just a heads up. I've played with both and typically did GO FAR on the bike but saved a last bottle of SPEED to get ready to run.

They don't hand these out on the course but potentially good news for the IM Choo Crew -- IRONMAN Renews Sponsorship Agreements With McKee Foods, Little Debbie And Sunbelt Bakery

If nothing else, the billboards are priceless!

2018-06-06 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by mtnbikerchk
Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by glfprncs
Originally posted by Hot Runner No, you have picky eater company in me! To begin with, I just don't really have a sweet tooth. Never have. Most of the time, anything sweeter than fruit or dark chocolate (75% plus cocoa) just tastes disgusting and nauseating to me. Then there's the consistency of gu--I'm a world-class gagger, and race-day adrenaline, high effort level, and heat make things worse. I'm self-sufficient for nutrition in all my races because--really--I can only get down three types of gu in a race situation--PowerBar Tangerine, Hammer Apple Cinnamon, and Gu GingerAde. Everything else has come back up. (You definitely don't want to be drafting ME on the bike!) I pretty much rely on a big bar of dark chocolate eaten in small increments on the bike, with a couple of backup gus, and then go to PowerBar gu on the run. That and the Hammer gus seem to have a thinner consistency that goes down better. (Not sure why the thicker GingerAde goes down--maybe the ginger counteracts nausea?) I can also do bananas on the bike, but they're not nearly as portable or easy to get down while staying aero. It will be interesting to figure out nutrition for full IM. That is A LOT of chocolate. When I do long bike tours in Asia, I eat a lot of these sticky rice things wrapped in banana leaves. Since it's IM Malaysia, wondering if I could somehow score some and eat it on the bike. But that would be hard to practice when training in the US, and a bit random for comfort!
I have a few tri friends who make and use some of the items found in "The Feed Zone Portables" cook book. I've tried them and they're quite tasty. A few favorites are: Blueberry & Chocolate Coconut Rice Cakes, the "Date & Almond Rice Balls," "Cherry Chocolate Sticky Bites," "Bitter Chocolate and Sea Salt Sticky Bites." Might be worth a try.

Recipes:

https://feedzonecookbook.com/2013/07/30/the-best-portable-snacks-for-ultrarunners/

Bad links in that one. This one seems to work:

https://www.velopress.com/the-best-aid-station-foods-for-ultramarathoners/

I've used it all, tried it all, eat it all!! For long bike rides (and both ims) used Infinit. Interesting at my Oly this weekend I'm not sure the Infinit sat well so we'll play with that. But the ease of just remembering to get down a bottle an hour for a hot race is key for me once you nail down your calories and electrolytes. The feed zone portables are awesome, yes but melting, carrying and unwrapping on the bike are problems for me - guess I'm not that coordinated. I may use more of that this year. LOVE PBJ rice cakes! FYI the Infinit GO FAR has protein and the Speed formula does not. The theory is that protein will trick you into thinking you're not hungry. However on the run it can back fire if you're body is trying to digest too much protein and upsets your stomach. Just a heads up. I've played with both and typically did GO FAR on the bike but saved a last bottle of SPEED to get ready to run.

They don't hand these out on the course but potentially good news for the IM Choo Crew -- IRONMAN Renews Sponsorship Agreements With McKee Foods, Little Debbie And Sunbelt Bakery

If nothing else, the billboards are priceless!

Little Debbie still holds a fond place in my heart. I think it stems mostly from the chatter in the FB group prior to the race, coupled with the fact that while driving to the race we saw so many Little Debbie trucks. I enjoy the comments I get when wearing my jacket, "Cool you did an Ironman! Wait! Little Debbie is the sponsor?!"



2018-06-06 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by mtnbikerchk
Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by glfprncs
Originally posted by Hot Runner No, you have picky eater company in me! To begin with, I just don't really have a sweet tooth. Never have. Most of the time, anything sweeter than fruit or dark chocolate (75% plus cocoa) just tastes disgusting and nauseating to me. Then there's the consistency of gu--I'm a world-class gagger, and race-day adrenaline, high effort level, and heat make things worse. I'm self-sufficient for nutrition in all my races because--really--I can only get down three types of gu in a race situation--PowerBar Tangerine, Hammer Apple Cinnamon, and Gu GingerAde. Everything else has come back up. (You definitely don't want to be drafting ME on the bike!) I pretty much rely on a big bar of dark chocolate eaten in small increments on the bike, with a couple of backup gus, and then go to PowerBar gu on the run. That and the Hammer gus seem to have a thinner consistency that goes down better. (Not sure why the thicker GingerAde goes down--maybe the ginger counteracts nausea?) I can also do bananas on the bike, but they're not nearly as portable or easy to get down while staying aero. It will be interesting to figure out nutrition for full IM. That is A LOT of chocolate. When I do long bike tours in Asia, I eat a lot of these sticky rice things wrapped in banana leaves. Since it's IM Malaysia, wondering if I could somehow score some and eat it on the bike. But that would be hard to practice when training in the US, and a bit random for comfort!
I have a few tri friends who make and use some of the items found in "The Feed Zone Portables" cook book. I've tried them and they're quite tasty. A few favorites are: Blueberry & Chocolate Coconut Rice Cakes, the "Date & Almond Rice Balls," "Cherry Chocolate Sticky Bites," "Bitter Chocolate and Sea Salt Sticky Bites." Might be worth a try.

Recipes:

https://feedzonecookbook.com/2013/07/30/the-best-portable-snacks-for-ultrarunners/

Bad links in that one. This one seems to work:

https://www.velopress.com/the-best-aid-station-foods-for-ultramarathoners/

I've used it all, tried it all, eat it all!! For long bike rides (and both ims) used Infinit. Interesting at my Oly this weekend I'm not sure the Infinit sat well so we'll play with that. But the ease of just remembering to get down a bottle an hour for a hot race is key for me once you nail down your calories and electrolytes. The feed zone portables are awesome, yes but melting, carrying and unwrapping on the bike are problems for me - guess I'm not that coordinated. I may use more of that this year. LOVE PBJ rice cakes! FYI the Infinit GO FAR has protein and the Speed formula does not. The theory is that protein will trick you into thinking you're not hungry. However on the run it can back fire if you're body is trying to digest too much protein and upsets your stomach. Just a heads up. I've played with both and typically did GO FAR on the bike but saved a last bottle of SPEED to get ready to run.

They don't hand these out on the course but potentially good news for the IM Choo Crew -- IRONMAN Renews Sponsorship Agreements With McKee Foods, Little Debbie And Sunbelt Bakery

If nothing else, the billboards are priceless!

Little Debbie still holds a fond place in my heart. I think it stems mostly from the chatter in the FB group prior to the race, coupled with the fact that while driving to the race we saw so many Little Debbie trucks. I enjoy the comments I get when wearing my jacket, "Cool you did an Ironman! Wait! Little Debbie is the sponsor?!"

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Originally posted by rrrunner

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Originally posted by mtnbikerchk
Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by glfprncs
Originally posted by Hot Runner No, you have picky eater company in me! To begin with, I just don't really have a sweet tooth. Never have. Most of the time, anything sweeter than fruit or dark chocolate (75% plus cocoa) just tastes disgusting and nauseating to me. Then there's the consistency of gu--I'm a world-class gagger, and race-day adrenaline, high effort level, and heat make things worse. I'm self-sufficient for nutrition in all my races because--really--I can only get down three types of gu in a race situation--PowerBar Tangerine, Hammer Apple Cinnamon, and Gu GingerAde. Everything else has come back up. (You definitely don't want to be drafting ME on the bike!) I pretty much rely on a big bar of dark chocolate eaten in small increments on the bike, with a couple of backup gus, and then go to PowerBar gu on the run. That and the Hammer gus seem to have a thinner consistency that goes down better. (Not sure why the thicker GingerAde goes down--maybe the ginger counteracts nausea?) I can also do bananas on the bike, but they're not nearly as portable or easy to get down while staying aero. It will be interesting to figure out nutrition for full IM. That is A LOT of chocolate. When I do long bike tours in Asia, I eat a lot of these sticky rice things wrapped in banana leaves. Since it's IM Malaysia, wondering if I could somehow score some and eat it on the bike. But that would be hard to practice when training in the US, and a bit random for comfort!
I have a few tri friends who make and use some of the items found in "The Feed Zone Portables" cook book. I've tried them and they're quite tasty. A few favorites are: Blueberry & Chocolate Coconut Rice Cakes, the "Date & Almond Rice Balls," "Cherry Chocolate Sticky Bites," "Bitter Chocolate and Sea Salt Sticky Bites." Might be worth a try.

Recipes:

https://feedzonecookbook.com/2013/07/30/the-best-portable-snacks-for-ultrarunners/

Bad links in that one. This one seems to work:

https://www.velopress.com/the-best-aid-station-foods-for-ultramarathoners/

I've used it all, tried it all, eat it all!! For long bike rides (and both ims) used Infinit. Interesting at my Oly this weekend I'm not sure the Infinit sat well so we'll play with that. But the ease of just remembering to get down a bottle an hour for a hot race is key for me once you nail down your calories and electrolytes. The feed zone portables are awesome, yes but melting, carrying and unwrapping on the bike are problems for me - guess I'm not that coordinated. I may use more of that this year. LOVE PBJ rice cakes! FYI the Infinit GO FAR has protein and the Speed formula does not. The theory is that protein will trick you into thinking you're not hungry. However on the run it can back fire if you're body is trying to digest too much protein and upsets your stomach. Just a heads up. I've played with both and typically did GO FAR on the bike but saved a last bottle of SPEED to get ready to run.

They don't hand these out on the course but potentially good news for the IM Choo Crew -- IRONMAN Renews Sponsorship Agreements With McKee Foods, Little Debbie And Sunbelt Bakery

If nothing else, the billboards are priceless!

Little Debbie still holds a fond place in my heart. I think it stems mostly from the chatter in the FB group prior to the race, coupled with the fact that while driving to the race we saw so many Little Debbie trucks. I enjoy the comments I get when wearing my jacket, "Cool you did an Ironman! Wait! Little Debbie is the sponsor?!"

Still a fond memory, I guess that's a good thing

2018-06-06 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by rrrunner

Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by mtnbikerchk
Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by glfprncs
Originally posted by Hot Runner No, you have picky eater company in me! To begin with, I just don't really have a sweet tooth. Never have. Most of the time, anything sweeter than fruit or dark chocolate (75% plus cocoa) just tastes disgusting and nauseating to me. Then there's the consistency of gu--I'm a world-class gagger, and race-day adrenaline, high effort level, and heat make things worse. I'm self-sufficient for nutrition in all my races because--really--I can only get down three types of gu in a race situation--PowerBar Tangerine, Hammer Apple Cinnamon, and Gu GingerAde. Everything else has come back up. (You definitely don't want to be drafting ME on the bike!) I pretty much rely on a big bar of dark chocolate eaten in small increments on the bike, with a couple of backup gus, and then go to PowerBar gu on the run. That and the Hammer gus seem to have a thinner consistency that goes down better. (Not sure why the thicker GingerAde goes down--maybe the ginger counteracts nausea?) I can also do bananas on the bike, but they're not nearly as portable or easy to get down while staying aero. It will be interesting to figure out nutrition for full IM. That is A LOT of chocolate. When I do long bike tours in Asia, I eat a lot of these sticky rice things wrapped in banana leaves. Since it's IM Malaysia, wondering if I could somehow score some and eat it on the bike. But that would be hard to practice when training in the US, and a bit random for comfort!
I have a few tri friends who make and use some of the items found in "The Feed Zone Portables" cook book. I've tried them and they're quite tasty. A few favorites are: Blueberry & Chocolate Coconut Rice Cakes, the "Date & Almond Rice Balls," "Cherry Chocolate Sticky Bites," "Bitter Chocolate and Sea Salt Sticky Bites." Might be worth a try.

Recipes:

https://feedzonecookbook.com/2013/07/30/the-best-portable-snacks-for-ultrarunners/

Bad links in that one. This one seems to work:

https://www.velopress.com/the-best-aid-station-foods-for-ultramarathoners/

I've used it all, tried it all, eat it all!! For long bike rides (and both ims) used Infinit. Interesting at my Oly this weekend I'm not sure the Infinit sat well so we'll play with that. But the ease of just remembering to get down a bottle an hour for a hot race is key for me once you nail down your calories and electrolytes. The feed zone portables are awesome, yes but melting, carrying and unwrapping on the bike are problems for me - guess I'm not that coordinated. I may use more of that this year. LOVE PBJ rice cakes! FYI the Infinit GO FAR has protein and the Speed formula does not. The theory is that protein will trick you into thinking you're not hungry. However on the run it can back fire if you're body is trying to digest too much protein and upsets your stomach. Just a heads up. I've played with both and typically did GO FAR on the bike but saved a last bottle of SPEED to get ready to run.

They don't hand these out on the course but potentially good news for the IM Choo Crew -- IRONMAN Renews Sponsorship Agreements With McKee Foods, Little Debbie And Sunbelt Bakery

If nothing else, the billboards are priceless!

Little Debbie still holds a fond place in my heart. I think it stems mostly from the chatter in the FB group prior to the race, coupled with the fact that while driving to the race we saw so many Little Debbie trucks. I enjoy the comments I get when wearing my jacket, "Cool you did an Ironman! Wait! Little Debbie is the sponsor?!"

Are those for real?!  Awesome!!

2018-06-06 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by melbo55

Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by rrrunner

Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by mtnbikerchk
Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by glfprncs
Originally posted by Hot Runner No, you have picky eater company in me! To begin with, I just don't really have a sweet tooth. Never have. Most of the time, anything sweeter than fruit or dark chocolate (75% plus cocoa) just tastes disgusting and nauseating to me. Then there's the consistency of gu--I'm a world-class gagger, and race-day adrenaline, high effort level, and heat make things worse. I'm self-sufficient for nutrition in all my races because--really--I can only get down three types of gu in a race situation--PowerBar Tangerine, Hammer Apple Cinnamon, and Gu GingerAde. Everything else has come back up. (You definitely don't want to be drafting ME on the bike!) I pretty much rely on a big bar of dark chocolate eaten in small increments on the bike, with a couple of backup gus, and then go to PowerBar gu on the run. That and the Hammer gus seem to have a thinner consistency that goes down better. (Not sure why the thicker GingerAde goes down--maybe the ginger counteracts nausea?) I can also do bananas on the bike, but they're not nearly as portable or easy to get down while staying aero. It will be interesting to figure out nutrition for full IM. That is A LOT of chocolate. When I do long bike tours in Asia, I eat a lot of these sticky rice things wrapped in banana leaves. Since it's IM Malaysia, wondering if I could somehow score some and eat it on the bike. But that would be hard to practice when training in the US, and a bit random for comfort!
I have a few tri friends who make and use some of the items found in "The Feed Zone Portables" cook book. I've tried them and they're quite tasty. A few favorites are: Blueberry & Chocolate Coconut Rice Cakes, the "Date & Almond Rice Balls," "Cherry Chocolate Sticky Bites," "Bitter Chocolate and Sea Salt Sticky Bites." Might be worth a try.

Recipes:

https://feedzonecookbook.com/2013/07/30/the-best-portable-snacks-for-ultrarunners/

Bad links in that one. This one seems to work:

https://www.velopress.com/the-best-aid-station-foods-for-ultramarathoners/

I've used it all, tried it all, eat it all!! For long bike rides (and both ims) used Infinit. Interesting at my Oly this weekend I'm not sure the Infinit sat well so we'll play with that. But the ease of just remembering to get down a bottle an hour for a hot race is key for me once you nail down your calories and electrolytes. The feed zone portables are awesome, yes but melting, carrying and unwrapping on the bike are problems for me - guess I'm not that coordinated. I may use more of that this year. LOVE PBJ rice cakes! FYI the Infinit GO FAR has protein and the Speed formula does not. The theory is that protein will trick you into thinking you're not hungry. However on the run it can back fire if you're body is trying to digest too much protein and upsets your stomach. Just a heads up. I've played with both and typically did GO FAR on the bike but saved a last bottle of SPEED to get ready to run.

They don't hand these out on the course but potentially good news for the IM Choo Crew -- IRONMAN Renews Sponsorship Agreements With McKee Foods, Little Debbie And Sunbelt Bakery

If nothing else, the billboards are priceless!

Little Debbie still holds a fond place in my heart. I think it stems mostly from the chatter in the FB group prior to the race, coupled with the fact that while driving to the race we saw so many Little Debbie trucks. I enjoy the comments I get when wearing my jacket, "Cool you did an Ironman! Wait! Little Debbie is the sponsor?!"

Are those for real?!  Awesome!!

YES! They were there in 2016. I think that TJ saw them last year so hopefully we'll get to see them this year. So.Much.Fun!

2018-06-06 12:35 PM
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In other news, I think that maybe some of you followed the now defunct Fat Cyclist blog? Well, Fatty is doing a podcast now. I sort of hesitated to listen to it because it's centered around the Leadville 100 MTB event but it's actually really good and a lot of the points that they are making in the first episode totally apply to any endurance-type event. For example

  • The night before. Do you have a checklist so that you can have everything ready to go on race morning?
  • What time are you going to get up? Allow time for your breakfast, last minute bike stuff, etc.
  • What are you going to have for breakfast?
  • What time are you getting to the start line?
  • Get the lay of the land beforehand. Know when the port-a-pots are.
  • What are you going to wear pre-race (if it's cold)?

They are also discussing training tips that seem to apply to more than mtb events.

Fatty is updating his blog with some podcast related stuff. See the blog for links to the podcast.



2018-06-06 12:43 PM
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Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by mtnbikerchk
Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by glfprncs
Originally posted by Hot Runner No, you have picky eater company in me! To begin with, I just don't really have a sweet tooth. Never have. Most of the time, anything sweeter than fruit or dark chocolate (75% plus cocoa) just tastes disgusting and nauseating to me. Then there's the consistency of gu--I'm a world-class gagger, and race-day adrenaline, high effort level, and heat make things worse. I'm self-sufficient for nutrition in all my races because--really--I can only get down three types of gu in a race situation--PowerBar Tangerine, Hammer Apple Cinnamon, and Gu GingerAde. Everything else has come back up. (You definitely don't want to be drafting ME on the bike!) I pretty much rely on a big bar of dark chocolate eaten in small increments on the bike, with a couple of backup gus, and then go to PowerBar gu on the run. That and the Hammer gus seem to have a thinner consistency that goes down better. (Not sure why the thicker GingerAde goes down--maybe the ginger counteracts nausea?) I can also do bananas on the bike, but they're not nearly as portable or easy to get down while staying aero. It will be interesting to figure out nutrition for full IM. That is A LOT of chocolate. When I do long bike tours in Asia, I eat a lot of these sticky rice things wrapped in banana leaves. Since it's IM Malaysia, wondering if I could somehow score some and eat it on the bike. But that would be hard to practice when training in the US, and a bit random for comfort!
I have a few tri friends who make and use some of the items found in "The Feed Zone Portables" cook book. I've tried them and they're quite tasty. A few favorites are: Blueberry & Chocolate Coconut Rice Cakes, the "Date & Almond Rice Balls," "Cherry Chocolate Sticky Bites," "Bitter Chocolate and Sea Salt Sticky Bites." Might be worth a try.

Recipes:

https://feedzonecookbook.com/2013/07/30/the-best-portable-snacks-for-ultrarunners/

Bad links in that one. This one seems to work:

https://www.velopress.com/the-best-aid-station-foods-for-ultramarathoners/

I've used it all, tried it all, eat it all!! For long bike rides (and both ims) used Infinit. Interesting at my Oly this weekend I'm not sure the Infinit sat well so we'll play with that. But the ease of just remembering to get down a bottle an hour for a hot race is key for me once you nail down your calories and electrolytes. The feed zone portables are awesome, yes but melting, carrying and unwrapping on the bike are problems for me - guess I'm not that coordinated. I may use more of that this year. LOVE PBJ rice cakes! FYI the Infinit GO FAR has protein and the Speed formula does not. The theory is that protein will trick you into thinking you're not hungry. However on the run it can back fire if you're body is trying to digest too much protein and upsets your stomach. Just a heads up. I've played with both and typically did GO FAR on the bike but saved a last bottle of SPEED to get ready to run.

They don't hand these out on the course but potentially good news for the IM Choo Crew -- IRONMAN Renews Sponsorship Agreements With McKee Foods, Little Debbie And Sunbelt Bakery

If nothing else, the billboards are priceless!




I don't know if I've said this before - but the fact that Little Debbie is the sponsor is what caught our attention in the first place when looking for an IM. See my cousin who does these with me is a registered dietitian. She cannot get over the irony and wants to wear the IM LITTLE DEBBIE gear! I laugh every time I think of it!
2018-06-06 12:47 PM
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Originally posted by mtnbikerchk
Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by mtnbikerchk
Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by glfprncs
Originally posted by Hot Runner No, you have picky eater company in me! To begin with, I just don't really have a sweet tooth. Never have. Most of the time, anything sweeter than fruit or dark chocolate (75% plus cocoa) just tastes disgusting and nauseating to me. Then there's the consistency of gu--I'm a world-class gagger, and race-day adrenaline, high effort level, and heat make things worse. I'm self-sufficient for nutrition in all my races because--really--I can only get down three types of gu in a race situation--PowerBar Tangerine, Hammer Apple Cinnamon, and Gu GingerAde. Everything else has come back up. (You definitely don't want to be drafting ME on the bike!) I pretty much rely on a big bar of dark chocolate eaten in small increments on the bike, with a couple of backup gus, and then go to PowerBar gu on the run. That and the Hammer gus seem to have a thinner consistency that goes down better. (Not sure why the thicker GingerAde goes down--maybe the ginger counteracts nausea?) I can also do bananas on the bike, but they're not nearly as portable or easy to get down while staying aero. It will be interesting to figure out nutrition for full IM. That is A LOT of chocolate. When I do long bike tours in Asia, I eat a lot of these sticky rice things wrapped in banana leaves. Since it's IM Malaysia, wondering if I could somehow score some and eat it on the bike. But that would be hard to practice when training in the US, and a bit random for comfort!
I have a few tri friends who make and use some of the items found in "The Feed Zone Portables" cook book. I've tried them and they're quite tasty. A few favorites are: Blueberry & Chocolate Coconut Rice Cakes, the "Date & Almond Rice Balls," "Cherry Chocolate Sticky Bites," "Bitter Chocolate and Sea Salt Sticky Bites." Might be worth a try.

Recipes:

https://feedzonecookbook.com/2013/07/30/the-best-portable-snacks-for-ultrarunners/

Bad links in that one. This one seems to work:

https://www.velopress.com/the-best-aid-station-foods-for-ultramarathoners/

I've used it all, tried it all, eat it all!! For long bike rides (and both ims) used Infinit. Interesting at my Oly this weekend I'm not sure the Infinit sat well so we'll play with that. But the ease of just remembering to get down a bottle an hour for a hot race is key for me once you nail down your calories and electrolytes. The feed zone portables are awesome, yes but melting, carrying and unwrapping on the bike are problems for me - guess I'm not that coordinated. I may use more of that this year. LOVE PBJ rice cakes! FYI the Infinit GO FAR has protein and the Speed formula does not. The theory is that protein will trick you into thinking you're not hungry. However on the run it can back fire if you're body is trying to digest too much protein and upsets your stomach. Just a heads up. I've played with both and typically did GO FAR on the bike but saved a last bottle of SPEED to get ready to run.

They don't hand these out on the course but potentially good news for the IM Choo Crew -- IRONMAN Renews Sponsorship Agreements With McKee Foods, Little Debbie And Sunbelt Bakery

If nothing else, the billboards are priceless!

I don't know if I've said this before - but the fact that Little Debbie is the sponsor is what caught our attention in the first place when looking for an IM. See my cousin who does these with me is a registered dietitian. She cannot get over the irony and wants to wear the IM LITTLE DEBBIE gear! I laugh every time I think of it!

I wore a Little Debbie temporary tattoo. I hope they have them available again!

2018-06-06 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by melbo55

Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by rrrunner

Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by mtnbikerchk
Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by glfprncs
Originally posted by Hot Runner No, you have picky eater company in me! To begin with, I just don't really have a sweet tooth. Never have. Most of the time, anything sweeter than fruit or dark chocolate (75% plus cocoa) just tastes disgusting and nauseating to me. Then there's the consistency of gu--I'm a world-class gagger, and race-day adrenaline, high effort level, and heat make things worse. I'm self-sufficient for nutrition in all my races because--really--I can only get down three types of gu in a race situation--PowerBar Tangerine, Hammer Apple Cinnamon, and Gu GingerAde. Everything else has come back up. (You definitely don't want to be drafting ME on the bike!) I pretty much rely on a big bar of dark chocolate eaten in small increments on the bike, with a couple of backup gus, and then go to PowerBar gu on the run. That and the Hammer gus seem to have a thinner consistency that goes down better. (Not sure why the thicker GingerAde goes down--maybe the ginger counteracts nausea?) I can also do bananas on the bike, but they're not nearly as portable or easy to get down while staying aero. It will be interesting to figure out nutrition for full IM. That is A LOT of chocolate. When I do long bike tours in Asia, I eat a lot of these sticky rice things wrapped in banana leaves. Since it's IM Malaysia, wondering if I could somehow score some and eat it on the bike. But that would be hard to practice when training in the US, and a bit random for comfort!
I have a few tri friends who make and use some of the items found in "The Feed Zone Portables" cook book. I've tried them and they're quite tasty. A few favorites are: Blueberry & Chocolate Coconut Rice Cakes, the "Date & Almond Rice Balls," "Cherry Chocolate Sticky Bites," "Bitter Chocolate and Sea Salt Sticky Bites." Might be worth a try.

Recipes:

https://feedzonecookbook.com/2013/07/30/the-best-portable-snacks-for-ultrarunners/

Bad links in that one. This one seems to work:

https://www.velopress.com/the-best-aid-station-foods-for-ultramarathoners/

I've used it all, tried it all, eat it all!! For long bike rides (and both ims) used Infinit. Interesting at my Oly this weekend I'm not sure the Infinit sat well so we'll play with that. But the ease of just remembering to get down a bottle an hour for a hot race is key for me once you nail down your calories and electrolytes. The feed zone portables are awesome, yes but melting, carrying and unwrapping on the bike are problems for me - guess I'm not that coordinated. I may use more of that this year. LOVE PBJ rice cakes! FYI the Infinit GO FAR has protein and the Speed formula does not. The theory is that protein will trick you into thinking you're not hungry. However on the run it can back fire if you're body is trying to digest too much protein and upsets your stomach. Just a heads up. I've played with both and typically did GO FAR on the bike but saved a last bottle of SPEED to get ready to run.

They don't hand these out on the course but potentially good news for the IM Choo Crew -- IRONMAN Renews Sponsorship Agreements With McKee Foods, Little Debbie And Sunbelt Bakery

If nothing else, the billboards are priceless!

Little Debbie still holds a fond place in my heart. I think it stems mostly from the chatter in the FB group prior to the race, coupled with the fact that while driving to the race we saw so many Little Debbie trucks. I enjoy the comments I get when wearing my jacket, "Cool you did an Ironman! Wait! Little Debbie is the sponsor?!"

Are those for real?!  Awesome!!

YES! They were there in 2016. I think that TJ saw them last year so hopefully we'll get to see them this year. So.Much.Fun!

I have the poster hanging up in my trainer room.

2018-06-06 1:05 PM
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Originally posted by jmkizer

In other news, I think that maybe some of you followed the now defunct Fat Cyclist blog? Well, Fatty is doing a podcast now. I sort of hesitated to listen to it because it's centered around the Leadville 100 MTB event but it's actually really good and a lot of the points that they are making in the first episode totally apply to any endurance-type event. For example

  • The night before. Do you have a checklist so that you can have everything ready to go on race morning? no, it lives in my head. but to be fair, for louisville i did have a checklist for all the gear bags, but they are  dropped off day before. 
  • What time are you going to get up? Allow time for your breakfast, last minute bike stuff, etc. yes
  • What are you going to have for breakfast? yes
  • What time are you getting to the start line?  more or less
  • Get the lay of the land beforehand. Know when the port-a-pots are.  general lay of land
  • What are you going to wear pre-race (if it's cold)? often decided at last second b/c i never think of cold!

They are also discussing training tips that seem to apply to more than mtb events.

Fatty is updating his blog with some podcast related stuff. See the blog for links to the podcast.

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Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by mtnbikerchk
Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by mtnbikerchk
Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by glfprncs
Originally posted by Hot Runner No, you have picky eater company in me! To begin with, I just don't really have a sweet tooth. Never have. Most of the time, anything sweeter than fruit or dark chocolate (75% plus cocoa) just tastes disgusting and nauseating to me. Then there's the consistency of gu--I'm a world-class gagger, and race-day adrenaline, high effort level, and heat make things worse. I'm self-sufficient for nutrition in all my races because--really--I can only get down three types of gu in a race situation--PowerBar Tangerine, Hammer Apple Cinnamon, and Gu GingerAde. Everything else has come back up. (You definitely don't want to be drafting ME on the bike!) I pretty much rely on a big bar of dark chocolate eaten in small increments on the bike, with a couple of backup gus, and then go to PowerBar gu on the run. That and the Hammer gus seem to have a thinner consistency that goes down better. (Not sure why the thicker GingerAde goes down--maybe the ginger counteracts nausea?) I can also do bananas on the bike, but they're not nearly as portable or easy to get down while staying aero. It will be interesting to figure out nutrition for full IM. That is A LOT of chocolate. When I do long bike tours in Asia, I eat a lot of these sticky rice things wrapped in banana leaves. Since it's IM Malaysia, wondering if I could somehow score some and eat it on the bike. But that would be hard to practice when training in the US, and a bit random for comfort!
I have a few tri friends who make and use some of the items found in "The Feed Zone Portables" cook book. I've tried them and they're quite tasty. A few favorites are: Blueberry & Chocolate Coconut Rice Cakes, the "Date & Almond Rice Balls," "Cherry Chocolate Sticky Bites," "Bitter Chocolate and Sea Salt Sticky Bites." Might be worth a try.

Recipes:

https://feedzonecookbook.com/2013/07/30/the-best-portable-snacks-for-ultrarunners/

Bad links in that one. This one seems to work:

https://www.velopress.com/the-best-aid-station-foods-for-ultramarathoners/

I've used it all, tried it all, eat it all!! For long bike rides (and both ims) used Infinit. Interesting at my Oly this weekend I'm not sure the Infinit sat well so we'll play with that. But the ease of just remembering to get down a bottle an hour for a hot race is key for me once you nail down your calories and electrolytes. The feed zone portables are awesome, yes but melting, carrying and unwrapping on the bike are problems for me - guess I'm not that coordinated. I may use more of that this year. LOVE PBJ rice cakes! FYI the Infinit GO FAR has protein and the Speed formula does not. The theory is that protein will trick you into thinking you're not hungry. However on the run it can back fire if you're body is trying to digest too much protein and upsets your stomach. Just a heads up. I've played with both and typically did GO FAR on the bike but saved a last bottle of SPEED to get ready to run.

They don't hand these out on the course but potentially good news for the IM Choo Crew -- IRONMAN Renews Sponsorship Agreements With McKee Foods, Little Debbie And Sunbelt Bakery

If nothing else, the billboards are priceless!

I don't know if I've said this before - but the fact that Little Debbie is the sponsor is what caught our attention in the first place when looking for an IM. See my cousin who does these with me is a registered dietitian. She cannot get over the irony and wants to wear the IM LITTLE DEBBIE gear! I laugh every time I think of it!

I wore a Little Debbie temporary tattoo. I hope they have them available again!




we can have some made!


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Last year I volunteered at the CHOO finish line, and LITTLE DEBBIE HERSELF was there to congratulate the pro winners. Like the actual person the company is named after. Kinda cool?

But on the super cheezy side, they have their company mascots also at the finish line and in every photo... so the zebra snack cake and moon pie (or whatever) characters are flanking your glorious finish line photo  Lord give me the serenity to not punch a moon pie in the face!!

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Last year I volunteered at the CHOO finish line, and LITTLE DEBBIE HERSELF was there to congratulate the pro winners. Like the actual person the company is named after. Kinda cool?

But on the super cheezy side, they have their company mascots also at the finish line and in every photo... so the zebra snack cake and moon pie (or whatever) characters are flanking your glorious finish line photo  Lord give me the serenity to not punch a moon pie in the face!!

I'm nearly positive the characters/mascots were long gone when I finished!

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Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by lisac957

Last year I volunteered at the CHOO finish line, and LITTLE DEBBIE HERSELF was there to congratulate the pro winners. Like the actual person the company is named after. Kinda cool?

But on the super cheezy side, they have their company mascots also at the finish line and in every photo... so the zebra snack cake and moon pie (or whatever) characters are flanking your glorious finish line photo  Lord give me the serenity to not punch a moon pie in the face!!

I'm nearly positive the characters/mascots were long gone when I finished!

Me too

2018-06-06 6:11 PM
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Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition Now CLOSED
Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by lisac957

Last year I volunteered at the CHOO finish line, and LITTLE DEBBIE HERSELF was there to congratulate the pro winners. Like the actual person the company is named after. Kinda cool?

But on the super cheezy side, they have their company mascots also at the finish line and in every photo... so the zebra snack cake and moon pie (or whatever) characters are flanking your glorious finish line photo  Lord give me the serenity to not punch a moon pie in the face!!

I'm nearly positive the characters/mascots were long gone when I finished!




Well that sucks. Should be like Disney and be there all day!!
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