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2015-06-16 6:59 AM
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Home from vacation and back to the grind.  We had an awesome 5 days after Alcatraz riding around Sonoma and Napa checking out the vineyards and other sights.  It's crazy to me how much the temperature varies in that area.  San Francisco's weather was similar to what we get here, an hour away in Sonoma was stinking hot!  I think 102 degrees is hot by anyone's standards is it not? I'm not just being a wussy Canadian.  

I'm also somewhat embarrassed to admit that while planning some riding routes, I discovered that I can load a route onto my Garmin 500 and use that to get around.  I've only had the computer for 3 or 4 years...  It's just a breadcrumb trail, not an actual map but it more than served the purpose.  I'm pretty sure I would have gotten lost multiple times without it. 

I'm going to switch from riding the road bike to primarily the tri bike now to prepare for summer races.  The last few months are the first time that I've spent a significant and consistent amount of time on the road bike and I'm interested to see how my power numbers compare.  Anyone have any experience comparing the two and what sort of difference do you see?



2015-06-16 7:14 AM
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 The last few months are the first time that I've spent a significant and consistent amount of time on the road bike and I'm interested to see how my power numbers compare.  Anyone have any experience comparing the two and what sort of difference do you see?




I used to see 10watts difference. It was simple I would ride the computrainer sitting up for say 5min at 160w and at the end of the 5min, my HR would be say 120. I would then go in aero and at the end of 5min at 160 I would be at 123. I would ride 5min at 170 sitting up, my HR would be 123, ride 5min aero, 126....I could this in either sequence, and i got pretty consistent results.

I was very consistently getting 3bpm more in aero and ever 10 watts was 3bpm. So I made the conclusion that I had 10 watts difference between the two. Note : you had to eliminate the "noise' from the immediate change in position.

With time I improved my position in aero and I think it's a bit of that and a bit of "more time" in aero, but I am almost the same in both. I think, the shorter cranks and opening up my hip angle have helped a bit. Seat slightly up may have helped as well.
2015-06-16 7:50 AM
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Originally posted by marcag
Originally posted by TankBoy Don't let the outcomes from a single race (that again you jumped in to on a whim and without preparation) occlude your long-term agenda.

That there is gold. We have a tendency to judge ourselves by individual race results. On top of that we race1,2,3 times a year and with all the factors associated with a race, probably never show our full potential. Nicole is a few watts less today than she was a year ago. But guess what ? Those watts aren't gone forever, to the contrary they will come back and probably relatively easily. Nicole tested on the run a few months ago. She has great VO2max and solid endurance. That isn't going anywhere negative at her age. There is only upside Her swim has always been solid. So she has the making of a great athlete if those ingredients can be brought out in sync. And confidence is a big part of it. I would be more worried if I had never shows signs of potential. Nicole has shown many. We reach a point where physiological improvements are harder and harder to come by. And obstacles are harder and harder to identify. But if you knock down a single obstacle you can make nice jumps in improvements. I have tried a few things with the legs, strength is probably the next thing to try. I will only get depressed when I feel I've tried everything without success

Don't get me wrong -- I'm actually not disappointed with this race.  As I mentioned, it went pretty much as expected.  What I am disappointed with is this plateau / stagnant (backwards) progress / mental funk that I'm in right now.  It's difficult to watch friends of mine (who work equally hard) continue to get better, while I don't.  

This race might well have been a really good thing for me....might just have been the kick in the pants that I needed to make some changes.  

 

On an unrelated note -- I mentioned a couple weeks ago that my PM went funky on me.  It happened after a rainy ride, where I then sprayed the bike off, cleaned and lubed the chain and derailleurs.  The PM was acting weird for a few days and then "fixed" itself.  After this race, my bike looked like I'd taken it off road, so I once again sprayed it down and cleaned/lubed the chain and derailleurs -- and it's all jacked up again!  I'm hoping that a few more rides will allow it to "fix" itself again before this weekend's TT.  I will be sending it back to Quarq next week.  Not sure what the deal is with this, but it's consistent...

2015-06-16 8:13 AM
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On an unrelated note -- I mentioned a couple weeks ago that my PM went funky on me.  It happened after a rainy ride, where I then sprayed the bike off, cleaned and lubed the chain and derailleurs.  The PM was acting weird for a few days and then "fixed" itself.  After this race, my bike looked like I'd taken it off road, so I once again sprayed it down and cleaned/lubed the chain and derailleurs -- and it's all jacked up again!  I'm hoping that a few more rides will allow it to "fix" itself again before this weekend's TT.  I will be sending it back to Quarq next week.  Not sure what the deal is with this, but it's consistent...




hmmmmmmmm. There is a whole thread about this on ST. Several people have reported it.
2015-06-16 8:29 AM
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Originally posted by marcag
Originally posted by ligersandtions On an unrelated note -- I mentioned a couple weeks ago that my PM went funky on me.  It happened after a rainy ride, where I then sprayed the bike off, cleaned and lubed the chain and derailleurs.  The PM was acting weird for a few days and then "fixed" itself.  After this race, my bike looked like I'd taken it off road, so I once again sprayed it down and cleaned/lubed the chain and derailleurs -- and it's all jacked up again!  I'm hoping that a few more rides will allow it to "fix" itself again before this weekend's TT.  I will be sending it back to Quarq next week.  Not sure what the deal is with this, but it's consistent...
hmmmmmmmm. There is a whole thread about this on ST. Several people have reported it.

Almost a year ago something similar was happening with mine. Although it would drop out as opposed to give odd numbers, though it was always triggered by getting fairly wet. A seal somewhere was getting worn. They offered me the Riken upgrade deal from before, so I took that. The original unit was a Cinco Saturn. Think that was their second generation model?

2015-06-16 8:33 AM
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Originally posted by ligersandtions
On an unrelated note -- I mentioned a couple weeks ago that my PM went funky on me.  It happened after a rainy ride, where I then sprayed the bike off, cleaned and lubed the chain and derailleurs.  The PM was acting weird for a few days and then "fixed" itself.  After this race, my bike looked like I'd taken it off road, so I once again sprayed it down and cleaned/lubed the chain and derailleurs -- and it's all jacked up again!  I'm hoping that a few more rides will allow it to "fix" itself again before this weekend's TT.  I will be sending it back to Quarq next week.  Not sure what the deal is with this, but it's consistent...




hmmmmmmmm. There is a whole thread about this on ST. Several people have reported it.


Found it

http://forum.slowtwitch.com/gforum.cgi?post=5550909;


2015-06-16 8:36 AM
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Home from vacation and back to the grind.  We had an awesome 5 days after Alcatraz riding around Sonoma and Napa checking out the vineyards and other sights.  It's crazy to me how much the temperature varies in that area.  San Francisco's weather was similar to what we get here, an hour away in Sonoma was stinking hot!  I think 102 degrees is hot by anyone's standards is it not? I'm not just being a wussy Canadian.  

I'm also somewhat embarrassed to admit that while planning some riding routes, I discovered that I can load a route onto my Garmin 500 and use that to get around.  I've only had the computer for 3 or 4 years...  It's just a breadcrumb trail, not an actual map but it more than served the purpose.  I'm pretty sure I would have gotten lost multiple times without it. 

I'm going to switch from riding the road bike to primarily the tri bike now to prepare for summer races.  The last few months are the first time that I've spent a significant and consistent amount of time on the road bike and I'm interested to see how my power numbers compare.  Anyone have any experience comparing the two and what sort of difference do you see?

I went through this about a year ago. But I had several things going on at once, so may not be as much help. Like the new PM mentioned in Nicole's response. Also started using a different trainer which gave a different feel. I'm guessing you are set up on your road bike better than I was, which should help you out. I just kind of made things work as I was only using the road setup temporarily.

The biggest things for me were being stretched out more (though more appropriately), which might be less for you as my road bike is a bit high stack and short length for me. Then also getting used to being that far over again. Stomach getting used to being so horizontal again. First race was kind of a mess as I'd hardly ridden the new bike yet, but the second one two weeks later went much better.

2015-06-16 9:10 AM
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Interested to see what feedback people have on Lionel's blog post.

http://lsanderstri.com/2015/06/08/post-texas-paradigm-shift/

2015-06-16 10:12 AM
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Interested to see what feedback people have on Lionel's blog post.

http://lsanderstri.com/2015/06/08/post-texas-paradigm-shift/




I had read it and agree with a lot of it.

I am a believer that when you start getting into the 3% of greater loss of body weight there is an impact on your performance. I am also a believer that if you drink too much or screw yourself up on the electrolytes you can hurt performance more than if you under drink.

Some people have a really good mechanism to keep it in check. I don't. I could go forever without drinking and get myself in trouble. I rely on sweat out/ liquid in ratio and I use and electrolye to liquid ratio. My body sucks and telling me when to drink or when to take calories.


2015-06-16 11:52 AM
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Interesting -- mine seems to be a little different, though, as riding in the rain hasn't caused issues on the ride itself.  It's always the next ride (or few rides).  I'll be writing to Quarq today to update them with what I'm seeing, especially now that it's happened twice in a few weeks and others have had the same issue.

Hopefully it'll work itself out by Saturday, though!  And then I'll try to get it off the bike myself (may need to buy the correct size allen key) or take it to the bike shop if I need to.  The bike could probably use a tune up anyways

2015-06-16 1:35 PM
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Originally posted by axteraa

Home from vacation and back to the grind.  We had an awesome 5 days after Alcatraz riding around Sonoma and Napa checking out the vineyards and other sights.  It's crazy to me how much the temperature varies in that area.  San Francisco's weather was similar to what we get here, an hour away in Sonoma was stinking hot!  I think 102 degrees is hot by anyone's standards is it not? I'm not just being a wussy Canadian.  

I'm also somewhat embarrassed to admit that while planning some riding routes, I discovered that I can load a route onto my Garmin 500 and use that to get around.  I've only had the computer for 3 or 4 years...  It's just a breadcrumb trail, not an actual map but it more than served the purpose.  I'm pretty sure I would have gotten lost multiple times without it. 

I'm going to switch from riding the road bike to primarily the tri bike now to prepare for summer races.  The last few months are the first time that I've spent a significant and consistent amount of time on the road bike and I'm interested to see how my power numbers compare.  Anyone have any experience comparing the two and what sort of difference do you see?

Glad you guys enjoyed the rest of your vacation!



2015-06-16 1:41 PM
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4:59:46 - sneaked in under 5hrs, just...

Mixed feelings on this one, and I'll post more tomorrow, but struggled on the bike, and didn't have it for the run.

Sub 5 is always nice.   Well done

2015-06-16 1:44 PM
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Originally posted by spudone

Normally I'm not a big fan, but for your situation Rusty, you might try an elliptical trainer for a bit until you're more healed.  It removes the impact and gives you a smoother motion.  I'm assuming you can't do aqua-anything until you're less scraped up.

Hey Mark - thanks, that is a good idea. A few years when I was nursing a knee injury (d*mn, I am fragile!) I did spend A LOT of time aqua jogging with great results, and a little bit of time on the elliptical. With the elliptical I had varying results - in order to get a reasonable workout it seemed to cause undue stress in other areas, I think mostly since my body was so unfamiliar with it and I ramped it up to quickly. But yeah, you are right - I am supposed to stay out of the water (ESPECIALLY lake water) until this wrist is more fully healed - too big a risk of infection with all the skin loss, supposedly, and I am good about following doctor's orders. 

So, I think I might just sneak off to the gym a little later this week and see how a little elliptical goes - thanks for the suggestion!

Rusty, sorry to hear about the crash and injuries.  I've used elliptical on a few occasions, but IMO it takes REAL dedication to get a decent run-like workout on that thing.   It's weird, I don't mind the trainer at all, but can't stand doing a spin class or elliptical... go figure.   If all you need to do is keep the wrist out, you cold always wrap it and do aqua jogging with hands out of the water, not THAT would be a workout

2015-06-16 1:55 PM
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Rumor around the interwebs is that Chris was giving it a go at qualifying for US Nationals this weekend. How did it go Chris?

Thanks for asking Rusty.  I realized I've never actually raced with a goal of qualifying for something else, and it added an extra layer of stress that I did not (but should have) anticipated.  I actually checked the participant list against last year's results to see who was racing, who wasn't, who may have aged up, etc.  It's all rather silly, really, but I cannot imagine the stress of trying to qualify for Kona or Austria.   Last year was good as it sorta fell into my lap.

But I did want to return to MKE, if nothing else to spend more time with Rusty and J 

But alas, 'twas not to be.  I would have had to come in 5th with the number of folks in my AG.  I knew going in that 1-3 were taken by guys that absent injury or mechanical (not wished on anyone) would beat me.  Had a decent swim (7th), good-ish bike (5th) but the race was killed by a helmet wardrobe malfunction in T1, and lower fitness and few extra pounds costing me on the run.   But I would have had to find 4 minutes to meet my goal, which just is not happening in a race this short.

I went last year thinking "never know when I'll qualify again," and glad I did. Silver lining is I saved $1000

2015-06-16 2:00 PM
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Originally posted by TankBoy

Originally posted by spudone

Normally I'm not a big fan, but for your situation Rusty, you might try an elliptical trainer for a bit until you're more healed.  It removes the impact and gives you a smoother motion.  I'm assuming you can't do aqua-anything until you're less scraped up.

Hey Mark - thanks, that is a good idea. A few years when I was nursing a knee injury (d*mn, I am fragile!) I did spend A LOT of time aqua jogging with great results, and a little bit of time on the elliptical. With the elliptical I had varying results - in order to get a reasonable workout it seemed to cause undue stress in other areas, I think mostly since my body was so unfamiliar with it and I ramped it up to quickly. But yeah, you are right - I am supposed to stay out of the water (ESPECIALLY lake water) until this wrist is more fully healed - too big a risk of infection with all the skin loss, supposedly, and I am good about following doctor's orders. 

So, I think I might just sneak off to the gym a little later this week and see how a little elliptical goes - thanks for the suggestion!

Rusty, sorry to hear about the crash and injuries.  I've used elliptical on a few occasions, but IMO it takes REAL dedication to get a decent run-like workout on that thing.   It's weird, I don't mind the trainer at all, but can't stand doing a spin class or elliptical... go figure.   If all you need to do is keep the wrist out, you cold always wrap it and do aqua jogging with hands out of the water, not THAT would be a workout

Uh yeah, pics or it didn't happen.

I'm sure people won't think twice from this strange behavior though, knowing you are a triathlete

2015-06-16 2:03 PM
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Originally posted by TankBoy

Rumor around the interwebs is that Chris was giving it a go at qualifying for US Nationals this weekend. How did it go Chris?

Thanks for asking Rusty.  I realized I've never actually raced with a goal of qualifying for something else, and it added an extra layer of stress that I did not (but should have) anticipated.  I actually checked the participant list against last year's results to see who was racing, who wasn't, who may have aged up, etc.  It's all rather silly, really, but I cannot imagine the stress of trying to qualify for Kona or Austria.   Last year was good as it sorta fell into my lap.

But I did want to return to MKE, if nothing else to spend more time with Rusty and J 

But alas, 'twas not to be.  I would have had to come in 5th with the number of folks in my AG.  I knew going in that 1-3 were taken by guys that absent injury or mechanical (not wished on anyone) would beat me.  Had a decent swim (7th), good-ish bike (5th) but the race was killed by a helmet wardrobe malfunction in T1, and lower fitness and few extra pounds costing me on the run.   But I would have had to find 4 minutes to meet my goal, which just is not happening in a race this short.

I went last year thinking "never know when I'll qualify again," and glad I did. Silver lining is I saved $1000

I imagine that would be really challenging and you could end up down a rabbit hole stressing about the variables you can't control (the other people that show up)

Anything I have ever attempted to qualify for was a specific time, which I really appreciate.

Congrats on the 1,000 prize money



2015-06-16 2:05 PM
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Originally posted by ChrisM

Originally posted by TankBoy

Originally posted by spudone

Normally I'm not a big fan, but for your situation Rusty, you might try an elliptical trainer for a bit until you're more healed.  It removes the impact and gives you a smoother motion.  I'm assuming you can't do aqua-anything until you're less scraped up.

Hey Mark - thanks, that is a good idea. A few years when I was nursing a knee injury (d*mn, I am fragile!) I did spend A LOT of time aqua jogging with great results, and a little bit of time on the elliptical. With the elliptical I had varying results - in order to get a reasonable workout it seemed to cause undue stress in other areas, I think mostly since my body was so unfamiliar with it and I ramped it up to quickly. But yeah, you are right - I am supposed to stay out of the water (ESPECIALLY lake water) until this wrist is more fully healed - too big a risk of infection with all the skin loss, supposedly, and I am good about following doctor's orders. 

So, I think I might just sneak off to the gym a little later this week and see how a little elliptical goes - thanks for the suggestion!

Rusty, sorry to hear about the crash and injuries.  I've used elliptical on a few occasions, but IMO it takes REAL dedication to get a decent run-like workout on that thing.   It's weird, I don't mind the trainer at all, but can't stand doing a spin class or elliptical... go figure.   If all you need to do is keep the wrist out, you cold always wrap it and do aqua jogging with hands out of the water, not THAT would be a workout

Uh yeah, pics or it didn't happen.

I'm sure people won't think twice from this strange behavior though, knowing you are a triathlete

We used to have to do this in water polo practice, but they made us hold deck chairs out of the water.   Better than being the goalie though, they had to hold full sparkletts bottles over their heads while treading water as the water drained over their head.   Goalies are weird

2015-06-16 2:07 PM
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Originally posted by Asalzwed

Originally posted by ChrisM

Originally posted by TankBoy

Rumor around the interwebs is that Chris was giving it a go at qualifying for US Nationals this weekend. How did it go Chris?

Thanks for asking Rusty.  I realized I've never actually raced with a goal of qualifying for something else, and it added an extra layer of stress that I did not (but should have) anticipated.  I actually checked the participant list against last year's results to see who was racing, who wasn't, who may have aged up, etc.  It's all rather silly, really, but I cannot imagine the stress of trying to qualify for Kona or Austria.   Last year was good as it sorta fell into my lap.

But I did want to return to MKE, if nothing else to spend more time with Rusty and J 

But alas, 'twas not to be.  I would have had to come in 5th with the number of folks in my AG.  I knew going in that 1-3 were taken by guys that absent injury or mechanical (not wished on anyone) would beat me.  Had a decent swim (7th), good-ish bike (5th) but the race was killed by a helmet wardrobe malfunction in T1, and lower fitness and few extra pounds costing me on the run.   But I would have had to find 4 minutes to meet my goal, which just is not happening in a race this short.

I went last year thinking "never know when I'll qualify again," and glad I did. Silver lining is I saved $1000

I imagine that would be really challenging and you could end up down a rabbit hole stressing about the variables you can't control (the other people that show up)

Anything I have ever attempted to qualify for was a specific time, which I really appreciate.

Congrats on the 1,000 prize money

Right?   I immediately used it to book plane tickets to Kona for a volcano/dive trip

2015-06-16 3:00 PM
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Race Report is up, lesson learned, don't just pull your cr@p off the shelf from last year and expect it to work!  (oh, and eat less and get faster....)

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Interested to see what feedback people have on Lionel's blog post.

http://lsanderstri.com/2015/06/08/post-texas-paradigm-shift/

I had read it and agree with a lot of it. I am a believer that when you start getting into the 3% of greater loss of body weight there is an impact on your performance. I am also a believer that if you drink too much or screw yourself up on the electrolytes you can hurt performance more than if you under drink. Some people have a really good mechanism to keep it in check. I don't. I could go forever without drinking and get myself in trouble. I rely on sweat out/ liquid in ratio and I use and electrolye to liquid ratio. My body sucks and telling me when to drink or when to take calories.

Thanks for sharing that - interesting stuff, and I always like that he is willing to share his insight - good PR and Karma, if nothing else.

Since Marc noted % weight loss while running and training as a calibration of fluid loss, I thought I would add a link to a podcast in which Martin Yelling interviews Dr Mark Hetherington on marathon talk.com. This was forwarded to me by coach a number of years ago when I first turned my attention to Ironman and was trying to figure out my sweat rate and calorie burn. Hetherington is a researcher at the University of Leeds (where he directs their environmental chamber and acclimatization research), is an accomplished ultra runner, and has worked with many elite/professional athletes to prepare them for Athens and Beijing Olympics, Comrades, Ironman, Badwater, Western States, etc. The interview is spread over 3 different podcasts, #s 70, 71, and 72. To save you some time, you can hear each segment at 48:30, 50:20 and 05:50 respectively. The three part interview covers a range of topics related to heat training and fluid intake.

The second segment (#71) is the most pertinent to the fluid loss discussion, he lays out a case that only 1/2 (roughly) of weight lost during a workout or race is due to fluid loss, or at least fluid that is used by the body for nutritional processing and cooling and therefore needs to be (or even can be) replaced during a race. He actually does lay out his case for why he believes electrolyte intake may be more important for MOP/BOP/Recreational athletes relative to FOP, but (according to him anyway) it really has more to do with the fact that BMOP/BOP athletes take in way too many fluids during a race to begin with, which aligns with the theories expressed by Noakes, Greenfield, etc. This is one of those areas of the sport where recognizing that what is going on with a pro 8ish hour IM racer might be very different than a 12~14 hour age grouper - they are simply competing in two completely different kinds of events.

In the third segment (#72), he expresses his belief that it is difficult to take in too much sodium, but it is possible to take in too little while training and racing, and by inference recommends to err on the side of too much. He also states that his research shows that an isotonic solution of fluids is more rapidly taken up by the body than water alone, but goes on to state that the development of an isotonic solution is relatively difficult to achieve, particularly under race conditions.

 



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2015-06-16 3:12 PM
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Originally posted by Asalzwed

Originally posted by ChrisM

Originally posted by TankBoy

Originally posted by spudone

Normally I'm not a big fan, but for your situation Rusty, you might try an elliptical trainer for a bit until you're more healed.  It removes the impact and gives you a smoother motion.  I'm assuming you can't do aqua-anything until you're less scraped up.

Hey Mark - thanks, that is a good idea. A few years when I was nursing a knee injury (d*mn, I am fragile!) I did spend A LOT of time aqua jogging with great results, and a little bit of time on the elliptical. With the elliptical I had varying results - in order to get a reasonable workout it seemed to cause undue stress in other areas, I think mostly since my body was so unfamiliar with it and I ramped it up to quickly. But yeah, you are right - I am supposed to stay out of the water (ESPECIALLY lake water) until this wrist is more fully healed - too big a risk of infection with all the skin loss, supposedly, and I am good about following doctor's orders. 

So, I think I might just sneak off to the gym a little later this week and see how a little elliptical goes - thanks for the suggestion!

Rusty, sorry to hear about the crash and injuries.  I've used elliptical on a few occasions, but IMO it takes REAL dedication to get a decent run-like workout on that thing.   It's weird, I don't mind the trainer at all, but can't stand doing a spin class or elliptical... go figure.   If all you need to do is keep the wrist out, you cold always wrap it and do aqua jogging with hands out of the water, not THAT would be a workout

Uh yeah, pics or it didn't happen.

I'm sure people won't think twice from this strange behavior though, knowing you are a triathlete

This shouldn't be anything out the ordinary as his running form allegedly involves such overhead motion!



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Originally posted by ligersandtions

Interesting -- mine seems to be a little different, though, as riding in the rain hasn't caused issues on the ride itself.  It's always the next ride (or few rides).  I'll be writing to Quarq today to update them with what I'm seeing, especially now that it's happened twice in a few weeks and others have had the same issue.

Hopefully it'll work itself out by Saturday, though!  And then I'll try to get it off the bike myself (may need to buy the correct size allen key) or take it to the bike shop if I need to.  The bike could probably use a tune up anyways

Mine began to do that also after wet, rainy days and even cold, humid days last year. Like yours it was not during the ride itself, it always seemed to be the ride after. What seemed to solve the issue for me was to take the chainrings off, clean them and the bolts thoroughly, and then put it back together and ret-orque it to spec. Not that if you have one of the older 975's you don't want to do that as you have to then manually recalibrate it (which is not hard to do, you just have to have a fairly heavy laboratory-grade weight and the qalvin app to do so. You can also reset the brain of the quarq by shorting out the battery terminals - quarq customer service has told me any number of times this is good practice every time you change the battery.

2015-06-16 3:32 PM
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Normally I'm not a big fan, but for your situation Rusty, you might try an elliptical trainer for a bit until you're more healed.  It removes the impact and gives you a smoother motion.  I'm assuming you can't do aqua-anything until you're less scraped up.

Hey Mark - thanks, that is a good idea. A few years when I was nursing a knee injury (d*mn, I am fragile!) I did spend A LOT of time aqua jogging with great results, and a little bit of time on the elliptical. With the elliptical I had varying results - in order to get a reasonable workout it seemed to cause undue stress in other areas, I think mostly since my body was so unfamiliar with it and I ramped it up to quickly. But yeah, you are right - I am supposed to stay out of the water (ESPECIALLY lake water) until this wrist is more fully healed - too big a risk of infection with all the skin loss, supposedly, and I am good about following doctor's orders. 

So, I think I might just sneak off to the gym a little later this week and see how a little elliptical goes - thanks for the suggestion!

Rusty, sorry to hear about the crash and injuries.  I've used elliptical on a few occasions, but IMO it takes REAL dedication to get a decent run-like workout on that thing.   It's weird, I don't mind the trainer at all, but can't stand doing a spin class or elliptical... go figure.   If all you need to do is keep the wrist out, you cold always wrap it and do aqua jogging with hands out of the water, not THAT would be a workout

Uh yeah, pics or it didn't happen.

I'm sure people won't think twice from this strange behavior though, knowing you are a triathlete

This shouldn't be anything out the ordinary as his running form allegedly involves such overhead motion!

Ha-Ha - you all are HYSTERICAL! Kick a guy while he is down, why dontcha??

it is interesting - now that I am down to bandaids everywhere the wrist is finally starting to heal up fairly rapidly - it is almost like once the body got everything taken care of it finally decided to turn its attention there. After meeting with the Doc yesterday the hip inflammation was finally reduced enough to do some better diagnostic testing, and it appears that it is NOT a labral tear but instead an angry Adductor Magnus (looks like Marc and I are in the same boat!) right where it attaches to my pelvis. It is all good until my femur moves behind or lateral to my pelvis with any force, so running is still out, elliptical is out, and probably even swimming without a pull buoy for a while yet. I think I am just a couple of days away from being able to water proof it well enough to swim - it is difficult as it is a fairly large wound that spreads across the bend in my wrist, wrist joint, and uo the back of my hand.

I have officially pulled out of the AG race I had on the schedule in a week-and-a-half and have put together a relay team. Only trouble is the guys I will be racing with want to go for the course record (1:56:31). We should have the swim and the run in the bag, trouble is I would have to cover 42k on the bike just south of 56:40. Once my teammates figure that out they may kick me off the team - heh.

2015-06-16 3:36 PM
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Rumor around the interwebs is that Chris was giving it a go at qualifying for US Nationals this weekend. How did it go Chris?

Thanks for asking Rusty.  I realized I've never actually raced with a goal of qualifying for something else, and it added an extra layer of stress that I did not (but should have) anticipated.  I actually checked the participant list against last year's results to see who was racing, who wasn't, who may have aged up, etc.  It's all rather silly, really, but I cannot imagine the stress of trying to qualify for Kona or Austria.   Last year was good as it sorta fell into my lap.

But I did want to return to MKE, if nothing else to spend more time with Rusty and J 

But alas, 'twas not to be.  I would have had to come in 5th with the number of folks in my AG.  I knew going in that 1-3 were taken by guys that absent injury or mechanical (not wished on anyone) would beat me.  Had a decent swim (7th), good-ish bike (5th) but the race was killed by a helmet wardrobe malfunction in T1, and lower fitness and few extra pounds costing me on the run.   But I would have had to find 4 minutes to meet my goal, which just is not happening in a race this short.

I went last year thinking "never know when I'll qualify again," and glad I did. Silver lining is I saved $1000

I imagine that would be really challenging and you could end up down a rabbit hole stressing about the variables you can't control (the other people that show up)

Anything I have ever attempted to qualify for was a specific time, which I really appreciate.

Congrats on the 1,000 prize money

Right?   I immediately used it to book plane tickets to Kona for a volcano/dive trip

Ah, heck - was hoping you would be there again - but Salty is spot-on: nice use of the prize money!

2015-06-16 3:37 PM
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Interested to see what feedback people have on Lionel's blog post.

http://lsanderstri.com/2015/06/08/post-texas-paradigm-shift/

I had read it and agree with a lot of it. I am a believer that when you start getting into the 3% of greater loss of body weight there is an impact on your performance. I am also a believer that if you drink too much or screw yourself up on the electrolytes you can hurt performance more than if you under drink. Some people have a really good mechanism to keep it in check. I don't. I could go forever without drinking and get myself in trouble. I rely on sweat out/ liquid in ratio and I use and electrolye to liquid ratio. My body sucks and telling me when to drink or when to take calories.

Yeah I think I'm fortunate that my body does keep things in check.  But it's also a matter of listening to what your body is telling you.  When I raced Coeur d'Alene a few years ago with my little brother, I ended the race with a loss of 1lb from 155.  I think he lost 8 or 9 from 170.  But his comment to me was "yeah I knew I  should've been taking more fluids".  He has always been really good at pushing through when he's having difficulty.  That quality makes for great short course racing but it ends up slowing you down in an IM.

He still finished with a 13:21 in his first ironman - he's very athletically gifted

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