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2012-09-13 9:17 AM
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acumenjay - 2012-09-13 9:23 AM  ...I live in CT so a lot of people do the Rev 3 > IMLP combo.  It's kind of the standard I notice.  I for one will not do that again.  I never bounced back like I expected to and sort of couldn't get sharp again after Rev3.  Maybe too close for me personally, but that is a different discussion.

Jay, a good discussion nonetheless. If the group were to do a HIM in late April/very early may I would jump on. June is too late for me due to IMLP. In my own experience anyway, using a HIM as 'prep' for an IM proved to be counterproductive.



2012-09-13 9:20 AM
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Fred D - 2012-09-13 8:05 AMOk on the FD, I will call them today and get things set up.
Hey Fred, I think I expressed my thoughts before on a compact crank. I have one on my Scott CR1, you know the black and yellow bike. It came with the bike and my option was always to change it to a standard crank later. I never did and did not regret it. A couple things from my perspective about the compact crank. My RPM's were a lot higher several years back compared to now so I didn't notice the swapping of bikes from road to TT as much as I do now. As you know I primarily train on the road bike. The other thing is I would spin out going down large hills, large grades, etc.... This really didnt matter on solo ride. Group rides where different because most of the people I would ride with used standard cranks. These things I do not consider negative it's just the way they are. With your cycling strength and experience you will be fine.
2012-09-13 9:38 AM
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Fred D - 2012-09-13 6:36 AMMorning. My youngest turns 7 today, so definitely a great day for our family. I have a question for the group? If I switch from a standard to a compact crank do I have to do something to the front derailer or the cable tension? Is it something I would need my LBS to do. Fwiw I am comfortable Channing the crank pretty easily.
Yes for a compact crank you'll need to lower the front derailleur. There should be 1-2mm clearance from the outside guide to the top of the big chain ring.Happy Birthday Kate!

yup, an easy DIY. A penny between the derailleur and the big chairing will do it. You might be able to take a link or two out of your chain as well. So long as you don't over torque the bolt on the FD (you do have a small click-type torque wrench, right?) you cannot really mess anything up that your LBS couldn't then show you how to do correctly. That is pretty much how I have learned over the years, but now YouTube keeps that from happening. Mostly.

2012-09-13 9:51 AM
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Elaine and Marshall - it sounds like you guys may be both suffering from some typical late-season endurance training break-downs. Not sure what kind of access you have in your area, but this is a link to the group I work with in Atlanta. They are like wizards for the kind of difficulties you both describe. If you can find a group in your area that offers a similar holistic mechanical/structural/soft tissues "systems" approach to diagnosis, treatment, and maintenance you would be amazed at how quickly they can get you back on your feet.
2012-09-13 9:56 AM
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Thanks.  The chiro I've gone to is the local sports injury guru, a triathlete, and has been the official IM "doctor" more than a few times.  He's definitely the go-to guy here.  For whatever reason, it just hasn't worked out.  I'm going to start looking for some similar groups in the area.  I'm pretty sure there are some good ones out there, just not as universally recommended as the guy I've seen.

 

2012-09-13 10:01 AM
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BTW all my mantra;Embrace the bad days, it will make the good days so much sweeter.I hope it doesn't change to: Savageman it will chew you up and spit you out if you overcook the bike. Which I guess it still a true statement!!!My Savageman taper is going well. I am staying busy at work which is keeping my mind off of the slow training. Yesterday's ride was my last 30 miler. That may have seemed strong but was on the Felt and fairly flat. Legs, body and mind all feel great so execution of the race is what it will be all about.


2012-09-13 10:11 AM
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Chris - been meaning to ask: how are you liking your new car?!? I am an admitted ford guy - FIL is a senior exec and between the deal we get on new cars and the points I score with the inlaws it is hard not to be. I FINALLY got my car ( old-style Escape) back from the body shop, and I was reminded how much I like it as a hauler. For the last 6 weeks I have been driving an MKX (Lincoln version of the Edge) and really liked it in every way except for the interior load capacity when it came to hauling bikes: there was not enough vertical space in the rear cabin to put bike in upright/perpendicular. In the Escape I can put 4 bikes inside (with the front wheels off) because there is enough headroom to stand them up - in the MKX I had to lean them over so I could only get two in and it made it a little bit of a PITA to get other stuff in and out around the bikes. I have a new explorer on order, but I actually think it will have a similar problem as most of the SUVs have gone to a "cab high" design. How are you dealing with this in the Edge? Are you an outside hauler? If so, on the roof or on the back? I do on occasion carry 4 bikes on the top of the escape when I need to if we have too much stuff on the inside, so not averse to that, but I really like being able to stick at least a couple of bikes in the back easily without having to load/unload everything else that is in the car to do so.
2012-09-13 10:17 AM
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Hi all, hope everyone is doing well. Hope you do not mind my return, i just needed some time away.

I cannot ever remember the last time i posted here.

So lets see..... i did a crit on my birthday in late August, have not ran or swam since my July sprint Tri.

Did a Cyclocross race in Mass couple weeks ago, took 14th from the last row in a field of 54

Went to Martha's Vineyard this past weekend on a little vacation and the Vineyard Warrior Olympic with a BT friend Jeff Sklarz,  I made the turn onto the sprint bike course because i was not paying attention, and ended up DNF'ing. I was pretty pissed at my self, as i had done the course before, but sucked up my mangina, waited for Jeff to finish the proper bike course and went and ran an easy 10k with him. I was on pace to easily break the hour 40k tt mark, so i was pretty annoyed with myself.

Did a cross race last night, and finished 7th out of about 60, my best finish ever.  Felt good, but the bike is handling like crap, i need to fix some stuff and get different tires on it.

 

Ryan, awesome job bro!!!  That is fantastic!!!

Fred, congrats on the new bike, get another crank.

I use compacts on everything, i changed the rings to 52/36 on my race bikes, as i spin out a 50/11 in crits.

110lbs in rear tires, 100 in front, i weigh over 200lbs, all you skinny guys should not be over 100lbs

Don't use power, other than trainer road, if i am gonna ride the trainer i wanna do it properly.  When i am racing, i just pedal hard, lol.

Byron, very sorry about your crash and loss of a friend, i hate hearing stuff like that.

I have 2 new CX rigs enroute, chinese carbon frames, better geometry for me than my current ride.

 

i will read back some more and reply again.  Hope you all don't mind me re-joining.

 

2012-09-13 10:18 AM
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Goosedog - 2012-09-13 10:56 AM

Thanks.  The chiro I've gone to is the local sports injury guru, a triathlete, and has been the official IM "doctor" more than a few times.  He's definitely the go-to guy here.  For whatever reason, it just hasn't worked out.  I'm going to start looking for some similar groups in the area.  I'm pretty sure there are some good ones out there, just not as universally recommended as the guy I've seen.

 

Best of luck in getting it figured out - i didn't chime in yesterday but I had a really good experience with what I guess is non-traditional practitioners.  A friend referred me to a small clinic with just two physiotherapists (focusing on sports injuries) but both had combo certifications. The one I saw was a massage therapist and pt.  So, she did an analysis watching me walk and looking at my posture, etc.  So, she would use some massage technique to address my issues (ITBS but i had some misalignment and tightness in my back) and then give me exercises and stretches.   

Not sure if you might have any similar options but i thought that the combo approach was excellent ... sometimes the slightly different approach can work.

2012-09-13 10:35 AM
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blbriley - 2012-09-13 5:28 AM

Hey group,

Sorry I've been missing in action for the past three weeks.  I was in a bad accident on the tri bike and ended up in the ER with lots of facial damage and road rash.  Nothing broken thankfully, and the bike came out relatively uninjured.  I missed my Oly race in Pacific Grove and am not cleared to workout yet, although I've snuck in a couple TrainerRoad workouts.

But to add to my depression, this morning, a good friend and one of our OWS'ers and Ironman triathletes (9:48 at IMAZ) was killed while cycling  Young doctor and father of two.  My heart is broken.

Be safe out there my friends.  Life is way too short.

All the best,

Byron

Such painful news, and my best thoughts attend you and especially your friend's loved ones.

Please take good care of yourself in mind and body while healing from all these things.

2012-09-13 11:37 AM
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Byron, condolences on your buddy.  That's awful and scary.  Heal up soon.

 

x2.  Very sorry.  Heal up.

And again.   So sad about your friend.  I think we can all relate



2012-09-13 2:16 PM
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Fred - 1.  Honu is on June 1st...just sayin.  But I guess that doesn't fall into east coast.  Heck, it's not even on the east coast of the island.

2.  FD adjustment should be pretty easy.  When I had to replace my FD, my mechanic showed me how to dial it in.  Pretty simple and I'm sure one of those park tool videos would been more than enough info.  It's also something you can't totally screw up, so if you have problems, just take it to the LBS.  I'm guessing you only have a choice between 53/39 and 50/34 for the S-Works crank?  I think 52/36 would be a great option for you.

Neil - I think I've done a 2.5 hour long ride pretty much every week for the last 2 years except on weekends when I'm racing.  I tend to bump it up to 3+ hours for about 12-16 weeks before a HIM, peaking at around 4 hours.  That being said...I still value my shorter, high intensity weekday rides more than my long rides.  IMO...the short hard stuff is where you really build bike fitness. 

2012-09-13 4:06 PM
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Sorry to hear about your friend Byron.
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2012-09-13 7:15 PM
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I know some people in this group signed up for Leadman next year.  I had an idea it was tough, but never really looked into it.  With the Bend races going on this weekend, I took a peak at their website and read about last years race in Vegas.  Looks like it got a lot more popular with a bunch of ST'ers doing it this year.  I'm very curious to see how it goes.  Sounds like there will be carnage.  I might have to put this on my not so near future bucket list.



2012-09-13 7:27 PM
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Received the email from the Tri Officials - penalty was for drafting.  Out of almost 1000 people only 5 penalties were handed out, which seems to say I must have done something pretty obvious to get dinged.

I sent back a final email to see if there was any mistake because my bib was 173 and bib 175 also received a penalty.

I know it's not a big deal, but I'm a bit gutted.  Wish it was for outside assistance.

2012-09-13 7:56 PM
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tri808 - 2012-09-13 5:15 PM

I know some people in this group signed up for Leadman next year.  I had an idea it was tough, but never really looked into it.  With the Bend races going on this weekend, I took a peak at their website and read about last years race in Vegas.  Looks like it got a lot more popular with a bunch of ST'ers doing it this year.  I'm very curious to see how it goes.  Sounds like there will be carnage.  I might have to put this on my not so near future bucket list.

Don't know about Bend, but they've ruined (IMO) Leadman southwest, as it's moving to Tempe, i.e. IMAZ lite.  No thanks.   It was going to be in April which is a great time to race in Lake Mead (although the winds this year were reported to be epic)

2012-09-13 8:02 PM
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Neil...this is directly from the Muskoka Athlete Guide.  http://ironmanmuskoka.com/files/2011/08/2012_Muskoka-70.3-AG-FINAL-8.24.pdf

2012 OAT Competitive Rules apply except as indicated in the Athlete Guide. You may view the rules at

http://www.triathlonontario.com/

Procedure for awarding penalties

The official will:

1. Show the athlete a yellow card

2. Inform the athlete that they have been awarded a time penalty and that they must report to the penalty box in the transition area prior to proceeding on the run.

3. Inform the athlete that failure to serve a penalty will result in disqualification.

4. Ensure the athlete acknowledges the penalty.

5. Complete a penalty record and provide it to the Head Official at their earliest convenience. Successive infractions will result in an additional time penalty. Athletes receiving a third penalty will be disqualified. Each violation will result in a 4 min penalty to be served in the penalty box. Athletes serving penalties must sign in and out of the penalty box. Penalty Box will be located just outside transition before you start the run. Failure to do so will be viewed as a penalty not served. If a penalty is assessed on the run, an official will show a yellow card to the contestant and inform them of the time penalty. The penalty will be added to their finish time. In the event that an athlete is disqualified for a serious infraction, an official will show a RED card and inform the athlete of the DQ.

So your situation is interesting to say the least.  To me, it sounds like there was some type of mix up since nothing in #1-5 happened.

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tri808 - 2012-09-13 9:02 PM

Neil...this is directly from the Muskoka Athlete Guide.  http://ironmanmuskoka.com/files/2011/08/2012_Muskoka-70.3-AG-FINAL-8.24.pdf

2012 OAT Competitive Rules apply except as indicated in the Athlete Guide. You may view the rules at

http://www.triathlonontario.com/

Procedure for awarding penalties

The official will:

1. Show the athlete a yellow card

2. Inform the athlete that they have been awarded a time penalty and that they must report to the penalty box in the transition area prior to proceeding on the run.

3. Inform the athlete that failure to serve a penalty will result in disqualification.

4. Ensure the athlete acknowledges the penalty.

5. Complete a penalty record and provide it to the Head Official at their earliest convenience. Successive infractions will result in an additional time penalty. Athletes receiving a third penalty will be disqualified. Each violation will result in a 4 min penalty to be served in the penalty box. Athletes serving penalties must sign in and out of the penalty box. Penalty Box will be located just outside transition before you start the run. Failure to do so will be viewed as a penalty not served. If a penalty is assessed on the run, an official will show a yellow card to the contestant and inform them of the time penalty. The penalty will be added to their finish time. In the event that an athlete is disqualified for a serious infraction, an official will show a RED card and inform the athlete of the DQ.

So your situation is interesting to say the least.  To me, it sounds like there was some type of mix up since nothing in #1-5 happened.

Thanks Jason - I've sent a further email back to them with this excerpt.

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Fred D - 2012-09-13 9:08 PM
GoFaster - 2012-09-13 8:27 PM

 

I know it's not a big deal, but I'm a bit gutted.  Wish it was for outside assistance.

As they say, don't sweat the small stuff. On your death bed, I doubt you will be happy that you stressed about this. You might however be happy that you were doing tri's.

Who knows, and death beds are hopefully a long way off lol.

You are 100% correct, unfortunately, it's always the small stuff that I obsess over.  But I know where you're coming from.

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Does anybody know how many Vegas slots are available at Mont-Tremblant 70.3 2013?
 
I can’t seems to find it on the web site.   Thanks.
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tasr - 2012-09-14 7:17 AM Does anybody know how many Vegas slots are available at Mont-Tremblant 70.3 2013?
 
I can’t seems to find it on the web site.   Thanks.

The FAQ says there were 30 for 2012.  I would imagine it would remain the same.

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