Fred D Mentor Group - Part II (Page 77)

Decent...I think that's the understatement of the day.  You and James should both crush it at Quassy next year. 

uh, yeah.  I hate to hear what you think is good as opposed to 'decent'

heh.

What do you mean decent Savageman split?  A 3:02 is fantastic bike split at Savageman! It was like 17th OA.  You are too modest. 

I have been thinking lately about my plan for next year.  I feel like I did not get the most out of myself this year and really think I need some structure and periodization.

The first thing that came to mind was Endurance Nation and I have been looking at their website and articles the past couple days.  I know thier philosophy gets a lot of hate on ST but it really seems to fit me very well.  High intensity with manageable training hours and focus on ROI.  I really cannot get to the pool more than 3x week so it works anyway with their swim approach.

Also - I really think I burn myself up over the winter and by August I am fried mentally from all of the early morning workouts and staying on schedule.  Their OutSeason plans makes alot of sense keeping it primarily within 6-8 hours and I could certainly add some more swim time on top of that to stay a bit sharper there.

Anybody have thoughts, good or bad?  Has anybody had experience with their plans?

I have done a few on TrainerRoad...some of the hardest workouts I have done on a bike ....be scared LOL.

My opinion.  It is a good protocol for most AGers.

My reasoning.  Well, I've done what a lot of people have...read the Bible, Going Long, Be Iron Fit, Listened to a bunch of ENs podcasts, reviewed all of the QT2 stuff I could find.  Even had a coach last year...former pro multiple Kona person...yada yada.  She is good and subscribes to a lot of Sergio Borges stuff (that is her coach...you can google).  I didn't execute her plan very well but she did teach me a lot.

Basically the function is:

Work = Volume + Intensity

With some other factors considered like recovery abilities, body composition and predisposition to being injured, along with the big one for many...kids, work, life as an adult and not having tons of time year round to train....It is a good plan for someone like me.

I 100% agree with their biking strategy.  I don't like to spend tons of time on the trainer like QT2 would have it...I'd rather just pound out the work and get off the bike.  The run is a bit more tricky but if you know your body and aren't injury prone I think it is good...although I think frequency and a little less intensity and higher volume may be better for many...

That's kind of my 2 cents in a nutshell.  I know people who have followed it and compared plans and trained a couple different way the past couple years.  I'm planning on doing a similar protocol this out-season myself.  Really just looking to have the FTP goosed up 8-10% if I can manage it and getting the VDOT up a couple notches over what it was last year. 

I played around with one of their free trial off-season 8 week plans. I bet I still have the full pdfs of schedules somewhere. Shoot me an e-mail at ratherbeswimmin at gmail.com and I can send it to you.

Thanks guys.  Good input.  The other thing is that it is somewhat reasonable $$ cost for a full season plan and will give me some structure.  I actually prefer a high volume low(er) intensity run protocol but maybe it can be good to change things up I think for awhile and see how I feel.

Tom:  I found that ST thread.  Thanks.  Classic ST with 2 pages of crap coupled with about 5 good posts!

Hey everyone, I'm still alive, just catching up on this thread.  You guys made me curious: which would cost more for me to fly to: Quassy or Honu.  It turns out, at least right now, Honu is about $150 cheaper, and direct

But I actually know people in the northeast, so I don't know.  I'll see how I'm feeling this winter before I decide.  Logistically the nearest half I could do is Lake Stevens but I hate the course.  I might sign up for Rev 3 Portland again.  It's a good course to test your mettle on the bike and I had to miss it this year.  So there's some redemption in my mind.

Muskosa is on my someday list, but off the radar next year since I'm signed up for Lake Tahoe in September.

Okay...after 2.5 years of using WKO+, I'm looking to do some playing around with GC and the aerolap (per Marc's good advice ).

I browsed through RChung's slideshow on how to calculate cda using the aerolab, but I have a few questions regarding testing protocol.  I know the idea is to do several laps of a course, not touch your brakes, and hold your position the whole time.  I also understand it's okay to vary speed and effort.

So how do you guys test.  I'm trying to think of an area where I can do loops, but to be safe, I will almost always have to hit the brakes at a couple of points.  Is that "okay" so long as I hit the brakes at the same point and with the same pressure?  What about out and backs.  I assume you need to make a U turn at some point.  Do you need to be overly concerned about how you make these turns?  Will coasting through the turns screw up the test more than braking?

I have no idea why I didn't check this out earlier...looks like fun stuff.

Velodrome when nobody's using it.  I guess I'm lucky I have one a mile from where I live

Alright folks, the boy is going to be crushing dreams this weekend at his last triathlon of the season in 6&under.  25m/.3mile/100yd.  Looking to come out of the pool a good 5 seconds up and hold on from there.   

On the Veags hotel booking..... There's tons of options in Henderson, I showed up Saturday night without a reservation and got a nice Hampton Inn king suite (short story, boooked the wrong Hampton, realized it when I got there, had to cancel and rebook)

As for qualifying, funny story.  My friends went to the welcome dinner and were sitting at a table with a couple, they all thought the guy was doing it, since the girl did not fit the profile of the typical WC athlete (I wasn't there so didn't see her).  Turns out he was her sherpa, she was doing it, having qualified in at a European race.  My female friend, who wanted to qualify, was a little curious, so we did a little investigative work back at the hotel based on the race and her state.  Turns out she qualified with a time of 7:58.   She was last.  Not in her AG, but the the entire race.

So maybe Europe is an option for us slower people?? 

Writing this post made me go check the worlds results.  Won't post details but it's not pretty.....

Where would you be flying from?  I know that Hawaiian Airlines often has promotional specials for one way flights to the west coast for around $200.  You just have to be quick because they sell out fast. 

Honu may kill you on the hotel costs.  Depending on where you want to stay, you could be spending $250-400 a night.  There of course cheaper options...but I'm guessing if you're going to fly all the way over to Hawaii, you don't want to stay in a Holiday Inn type hotel.

HEY...NO WITCH HUNTS!!!  LOL! 

Ok...honest question but does your son even bother to put on shoes?

Flying from Seattle -- it's usually not too bad to anywhere in Hawaii.

Lodging, I was looking at condo rentals in Waikoloa.  They seem to be pretty close proximity and much cheaper than Mauna Lani.  But this is really just in the "hm, what-if" stage for me.

Good luck Goosedog Jr.!  Go get'm tiger! 

Sorry Rusty, just seeing this.   So far I love the car, it's the first car I've ever had with all th bells and whistles.   As for bike, well I haven't even put the back seats down yet, LOL.  It came with a tow package so I will *probably* use that for the near future.  The interior is unfortunately not black, so I need to be careful with grease smudges inside.  I would look at a roof option but I have the vista roof, and not sure what kind of rack I can put there as there is no factory rack. 

I believe my bike will fit inside, I should probably test that out....   I drove the Explorer, way too big for me.  We don't have kids so no need for the third row, etc.

Tell him he'll go much faster without the underwear on his head.  Go little goose!