I'm calling the election: Romney will win (Page 8)

seats to high

At this point, I think the seat is missing all together and the post is too high.

At this point, I think the seat is missing all together and the post is too high.

At this point, I think the seat is missing all together and the post is too high.

I'd smack you if I wasn't laughing. Well played sir.

Romney was a flawed candidate.  I just hoped that the American public would realize neither was perfect but that we need to assert some personal responsibility back into this country and get off the current path.

I did vote Lib but I want there to be stagnation in government if Obama was reelected.  Can you imagine a Democratic House, Senate and a second term Presidency?  Shivers down my spine.

This was my first year voting 3rd party so I still use "we" in terms of the Republicans. Old habits.

As for gracious losing... Obama won fair and square.  I'm not crying foul on that.  The American people voted him in.  I'm just disappointed in my fellow Americas right now.

I really hope that once some of the disappointment and anger passes, Republicans can take a moment for a little introspection, and then consider 3 things:

1.  Recognize that the "lack of intelligence and personal reponsibility" comment is just wrong.  I didn't vote for Obama, but most of my friends did.  They all have advanced degrees, are highly successful and many are rich.  There is no doubt a segment of the population that just wants a handout, but give the rest the benefit of the doubt that they honestly made a decision as to what they thought would best serve the country.

2.  The fact that Romney was nominated really says something about the Republican party.  If the Romney that was Mass. governor ran for president, I think he would have won.  But the guy who was Mass. governor couldn't win the Republican nomination.  That is a systemic Republican party problem.  The party is held hostage to the more extreme elements of the party (the Democratic Party is too BTW).  When the party forces candidates to be one person to get the nomination and another in the general election, a huge part of the electorate won't believe anything the candidate says.  Keep in mind that it wasn't just Romney that lost.  Republicans should have been able to take back the Senate, but they didn't.  In the last 2 election cycles, the Republicans have nominated some very extreme candidates, and some that, frankly, border on clinically crazy (I am thinking specifically about the 2010 Republican candidates for Governor and Senator in Colorado who were just bonkers, but there have been many others).

3.  There is a huge segment of the population that is like me - fiscally conservative and socially accepting.  I voted for Johnson, but a large part of that segment voted for Obama.  This group can be convinced to vote Republican.  It won't as long as the Republican party focus on abortion and gay marriage.  It also won't as long as the Republican party focuses on lower taxes rather than fiscal responsibility.  The idea that you can cut taxes rates, which will increase growth enough to raise tax revenue isn't believable, and has been proven wrong.  Work to balance the budget first, then cut spending and taxes together.  Those Republicans that are fiscally conservative and socially accepting should work to take the party back.  A big part of the foundation of the Republican Party was in civil rights, both in the 1860s and the 1960s.  I am fed up with both political parties.  If you can't take back the Republican Party, come join me in supporting a third party.

Well I was wrong.  I underestimated the lack of intelligence and personal responsibility in this country.  Congrats, you guys deserve the President you got.  Too bad the rest of us have to live with him too.

At least we kept the house.  Maybe they can keep him from doing any more damage.

I really hope that once some of the disappointment and anger passes, Republicans can take a moment for a little introspection, and then consider 3 things:

1.  Recognize that the "lack of intelligence and personal reponsibility" comment is just wrong.  I didn't vote for Obama, but most of my friends did.  They all have advanced degrees, are highly successful and many are rich.  There is no doubt a segment of the population that just wants a handout, but give the rest the benefit of the doubt that they honestly made a decision as to what they thought would best serve the country.

2.  The fact that Romney was nominated really says something about the Republican party.  If the Romney that was Mass. governor ran for president, I think he would have won.  But the guy who was Mass. governor couldn't win the Republican nomination.  That is a systemic Republican party problem.  The party is held hostage to the more extreme elements of the party (the Democratic Party is too BTW).  When the party forces candidates to be one person to get the nomination and another in the general election, a huge part of the electorate won't believe anything the candidate says.  Keep in mind that it wasn't just Romney that lost.  Republicans should have been able to take back the Senate, but they didn't.  In the last 2 election cycles, the Republicans have nominated some very extreme candidates, and some that, frankly, border on clinically crazy (I am thinking specifically about the 2010 Republican candidates for Governor and Senator in Colorado who were just bonkers, but there have been many others).

3.  There is a huge segment of the population that is like me - fiscally conservative and socially accepting.  I voted for Johnson, but a large part of that segment voted for Obama.  This group can be convinced to vote Republican.  It won't as long as the Republican party focus on abortion and gay marriage.  It also won't as long as the Republican party focuses on lower taxes rather than fiscal responsibility.  The idea that you can cut taxes rates, which will increase growth enough to raise tax revenue isn't believable, and has been proven wrong.  Work to balance the budget first, then cut spending and taxes together.  Those Republicans that are fiscally conservative and socially accepting should work to take the party back.  A big part of the foundation of the Republican Party was in civil rights, both in the 1860s and the 1960s.  I am fed up with both political parties.  If you can't take back the Republican Party, come join me in supporting a third party.

I'll preface so everyone knows, I think we were screwed regardless of who won.

Agreed 100%!

Do you think it could have been because Romney didn't present any real plan? It's the day after the election and I still don't know what Romney's plan is. Obama didn't either, but he was the incumbent, which has been shown to be a huge benefit. The country has been turned around from when he took office. Maybe not to the degree everyone would like, but there is a definite change in direction for the economy, from free fall to plodding along.

That would have happened either way, it is called the business cycle as you know.

I really hope that once some of the disappointment and anger passes, Republicans can take a moment for a little introspection, and then consider 3 things:

1.  Recognize that the "lack of intelligence and personal reponsibility" comment is just wrong.  I didn't vote for Obama, but most of my friends did.  They all have advanced degrees, are highly successful and many are rich.  There is no doubt a segment of the population that just wants a handout, but give the rest the benefit of the doubt that they honestly made a decision as to what they thought would best serve the country.

2.  The fact that Romney was nominated really says something about the Republican party.  If the Romney that was Mass. governor ran for president, I think he would have won.  But the guy who was Mass. governor couldn't win the Republican nomination.  That is a systemic Republican party problem.  The party is held hostage to the more extreme elements of the party (the Democratic Party is too BTW).  When the party forces candidates to be one person to get the nomination and another in the general election, a huge part of the electorate won't believe anything the candidate says.  Keep in mind that it wasn't just Romney that lost.  Republicans should have been able to take back the Senate, but they didn't.  In the last 2 election cycles, the Republicans have nominated some very extreme candidates, and some that, frankly, border on clinically crazy (I am thinking specifically about the 2010 Republican candidates for Governor and Senator in Colorado who were just bonkers, but there have been many others).

3.  There is a huge segment of the population that is like me - fiscally conservative and socially accepting.  I voted for Johnson, but a large part of that segment voted for Obama.  This group can be convinced to vote Republican.  It won't as long as the Republican party focus on abortion and gay marriage.  It also won't as long as the Republican party focuses on lower taxes rather than fiscal responsibility.  The idea that you can cut taxes rates, which will increase growth enough to raise tax revenue isn't believable, and has been proven wrong.  Work to balance the budget first, then cut spending and taxes together.  Those Republicans that are fiscally conservative and socially accepting should work to take the party back.  A big part of the foundation of the Republican Party was in civil rights, both in the 1860s and the 1960s.  I am fed up with both political parties.  If you can't take back the Republican Party, come join me in supporting a third party.

I'll preface so everyone knows, I think we were screwed regardless of who won.

Do you think it could have been because Romney didn't present any real plan? It's the day after the election and I still don't know what Romney's plan is. Obama didn't either, but he was the incumbent, which has been shown to be a huge benefit. The country has been turned around from when he took office. Maybe not to the degree everyone would like, but there is a definite change in direction for the economy, from free fall to plodding along.

I was watching ABC waiting for the acceptance speech. The talking heads were babbling and Stephenopholous(?) actually said..."Obama now has to tell us what his plan is to get the economy turned around because he hasn't actually told us what it is yet".... 

Wow, just WOW. Apparently not having a plan after 4 years is not a problem.

That's because there is no plan for our situation. The plan is to keep on the same path until we can't. Then it will be too late and we'll be seeing 30% cuts in spending along with huge tax hikes, etc.

^^ This!  There never was a plan.

Well I was wrong.  I underestimated the lack of intelligence and personal responsibility in this country.  Congrats, you guys deserve the President you got.  Too bad the rest of us have to live with him too.

At least we kept the house.  Maybe they can keep him from doing any more damage.

I'll preface so everyone knows, I think we were screwed regardless of who won.

evidently the markets think we're screwed as well.  Dow is down almost 300, S&P down 31, Nasdaq down 72.  while we have enjoyed good retunrs in 2012...me thinks that the markets could finsh up the year lower than they started.  No matter what Ben pulls from his bag of tricks. 

Maybe intelligence did win.  Maybe common sense won.   Maybe personal responsibility to help others did win.  Maybe equality issues won. 

Maybe you are to biased in your views to see the bigger picture and need something to blame.  But stay classy! 

There's no faith that the cliff will be avoided or any kind of real deal struck IMO.

Maybe intelligence did win.  Maybe common sense won.   Maybe personal responsibility to help others did win.  Maybe equality issues won. 

Maybe you are to biased in your views to see the bigger picture and need something to blame.  But stay classy!