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Darren, that is about the cutest picture ever!  Hope you have a hippobirthday too.

Salty, yet again just running where/when you're told, this time on a treadmill for 3 hours?  That sounds pretty dang boring.  Hope they have some good movies for you to watch or something else to keep you entertained!!

Erin, your camping trip looks fabulous.  In the true spirit of travel, there were definitely some adventures.  Good for you for finding ways to adapt and have fun with the kids, even though it didn't exactly go as planned.  Now for the vacation recovery phase....

As for me, I did my own little 5k yesterday.  I challenged myself to stay under 10 mpm running around a park with some hillier areas.  I did a little walking (mostly for the sake of safety when crossing streets), but kept it to a 9:50 average for 3.2 miles!!  Fastest ever at that distance!!  Unfortunately last night and today I'm having weird issues with my leg.  My foot is cold and my leg and foot ache like they were asleep and are "waking up."  It's a little worrisome so I made a dr. appointment for tomorrow.  Hoping there's nothing neurological or circulatory going on.  I'm supposed to do my long swim (1,150 yds.) tonight.  I'm not sure if I should do the full workout without my pull buoy (I've been trying to do this more), pull some, pull all, or just not do it.  Any thoughts?

I think I have and I didn't really notice any difference although at least one person on the relay claimed her lack of performance was altitude induced!

Mary, congrats on the 5k!  Way to step up and challenge yourself.  I'm sorry to hear that you are having some symptoms today.  Hopefully it's just a "thing" and nothing to be terribly concerned about.  Still, having your legs fall asleep is very disconcerting and I'm glad that you made an appointment.  Regarding the swimming, I'd probably go ahead and do it but with a more pulling rather than less.  It took some doing but I've finally been convinced that swimming after running is a good thing.

Take care!

I think that dealing with the humidity may cancel out the effects of 3500 feet in more arid conditions.  That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Congratulations on the running milestone!!

As far as your swim goes, I'm probably not the best person to get advice from either from a swim expertise perspective or from a should i work out when injured perspective, but...  if my leg wasn't bothering me when it was time to swim, I'd go for it and then try swimming without the buoy.  But again, I tend to do stupid things 

I wouldn't be either. I'm at 600-800 ft and going to 3500 isn't really an issue. What I've read and experienced is that this happens more at 5,000+. Might notice a little something for a race like this, but it's also a longer one so it won't be pushing the upper end of your aerobic system so much. More like a little increase in breathing rate that you may or may not notice going on.

Also finding this hilariously adorable quality to someone thinking that Illinois has "real" hills.

A running buddy of mine just came back to Florida after a month long vacation in Colorado.  He thought he'd kick azz and take names coming back to flat land after all that altitude.  He was wrong.  The humidity kicked his azz and he has had to cut the first 2 post-Colorado runs short.  Humidity is no joke!!

ETA:  the heat doesn't help either!

I'll take my 6000ft of climb over the humidity any day.  Heat (well our heat anyway, 80ish) I can manage mostly.  Humidity--I wilt.

Hippobirthday, indeed!  (awesome pic)

Salty - does the coolness ever end?  Can't wait to hear about that one.

Erin - that looks like a truly fantastic trip with the family!

Mary - great running!  I would also be concerned about neuro symptoms in your foot/leg, so I'm glad to hear that you have a doctor's appt.  I'd play the swim by ear.  Some easy motion might actually make it feel better, depending on cause, but I would be sure to STOP a couple times during the workout and check in with my foot/leg.  Easy to push through, especially if you're "almost done," but that can be a bad idea if it exacerbates the root cause.  I also think a pull-buoy might or might not help - if there is something in your upper leg (i.e., thigh) that is aggravated and causing a nerve impingement or the like, holding that buoy between your legs might not be better than an easy kick.

All in, just pay extra attention to it until you get it checked out.  At least that's what I'd do, but I've been on the DL a couple times this year, so…   

GL!

Matt

Happy birthday Darren!

I describe it as breathing peanut butter!

It's funny how we are all used to different things.  I am so used to humidity that i dont even think about it.  

I "glow" like crazy even here in CO so I hate running in humidity.  I can do it but I end up drenched and more red-faced than usual.  Not a pretty sight!!  I did notice that when I was in OH and DE I could breathe a lot easier, except when I was running faster than my usual pace while trying to talk with Tom!

Thanks for the advice, Matt and others.  The symptoms have been pretty constant since last night.  In some ways it's similar to the referred pain I got after my hip surgeries (and it's in the same leg), so I initially blamed it on overdoing it this weekend.  Except it's not going away or feeling better with Tylenol or using a foam roller, which usually alleviates the hip pain.  I'll try doing some regular freestyle and stop to check how it feels, as well as trying the pull buoy.  I'm so scared that I've hurt myself again and I *really* don't want to go back to the awful place I was in at the beginning of the year, especially after all the work I've done to get this far.

My 2 cents: I'd try swimming without the pull buoy first, keeping your kick light and easy, and not pushing off the walls too hard.  If it does hurt, try the buoy.  I often find the gentle kicking often helps work things out combined with the cool water (at least the pool I'm at is cooler).  But above all else, if it hurts too much or continues to feel too weird with or without the buoy, I'd call it a night.  No sense making things worse.

Big congrats on your new land speed record!!

Love the new avie

Thanks!

How was the swim?  Doctor's visit?

I hope it's calming down and nothing lasting.

Matt

Mary, what Matt said.  Please keep us up-to-date.  We're thinking of you!

Thanks, Janyne and Matt.  Doctor says she thinks it's nothing to worry about but to come back if it gets worse.  I swam full 1,150 yds. last night, despite finding every excuse in the book not to.  I only did 4 laps of full freestyle because my hip started bugging me; pulled the rest of the time and just focused on stroke/breathing technique .  The symptoms are no better or worse today so I'm going to continue with my planned workouts with a little less intensity.  I'm also going to use my roller a bunch and leave out the stairs for the rest of the week (I've been doing 13 flights 1-2x/day at work).  This was supposed to be my recovery week; guess I'll be doing a little more recovery than planned!!

Mary, just make sure you keep an eye on it and don't let the "nothing to worry about" mean that you can go nuts. Be smart about it (which it sounds like you are doing, but I thought I'd reiterate that).

Thanks for the reminder, Chris.  I won't go nuts - I already am and it has nothing to do with training!!  

I do tend to err on the side of caution when it comes to dealing with potential injury/pain.  I might beat myself up for "being lazy" but I won't go out and kill myself just to get in the times/distances.  I have a 45 min. run tomorrow and am going with a friend who's slower than me.  We're going on a flat course instead of the more hilly trail that I had planned (and could usually do), and will probably walk some as well as running.  I'm supposed to ride tonight for 55 min. and I'll probably just spin on the trainer instead of going out on the road.  If either of those feels like too much, I'll definitely stop.  I'm dialing things back and trying to listen to my body instead of the negative self-talk - just one more part of the sport I'm working to learn.

Had a great race last night.  From the mass start, my swim put me up in the front pack, and then I spent the bike ride getting passed.  My goal was to do the ride aerobically, and then have a good run.  I averaged 19.5 mph on a 24 mi ride, and then averaged 7:14/mi on the run.  I got faster every mile, and had a good finish that put the last half mile or so in the high 5:xx range (I was trying to chase a guy down, and got within a couple seconds).  Finished 29/118 OA, and 6/14 AG (swim was 17th OA).

I ran in a lab with a bunch of sensors yesterday. It was super cool. THere were maybe 50 sensors on my feet/legs/hips and I could see the data being projected onto the screen in front of me. Kind of like how you see athletes wearing sensors translated  into wireframe for video games.