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2014-11-10 10:27 AM in reply to: GoFaster |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by GoFaster Originally posted by axteraa Got some video from my swims on the weekend. Lane 6 (closest to the camera) for the 200 free, Lane 5 for the other two. If anyone follows the swim threads on ST, JasoninHalifax is in the lane beside me for the 200 free. My turnover seems to be quite a bit slower than the others. 50 free - https://www.youtube.com/ You really are a triathlete - you go to a running race with an Ironman visor and a swim meet with no cap! Just doing my bit to maintain the stereotypes. |
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2014-11-10 10:42 AM in reply to: GoFaster |
Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by GoFaster Originally posted by ligersandtions Originally posted by axteraa Masters meet this afternoon. SCM 200 free - 2:20.69 200 free was good, 50 free ( 2 hours later) - not so good, 100 breast (15 mins after 50 free) was pretty good. Those are some FAST times, Arend! Congrats! I did a 200 off the blocks last week and was about 27 seconds slower than you....it's crazy to me how fast you are when I can put it into perspective like that! Only 27sec? Nicole you're a fair bit faster than me then. I just don't understand these times when compared to my own swimming. I would have actually guessed a little closer, but that's probably the longer race focus. Less experience at swim race intensity. Off the blocks and being in a swim meet matters. I've surprised myself there on the short ones. |
2014-11-10 10:46 AM in reply to: axteraa |
Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by axteraa Originally posted by GoFaster Originally posted by axteraa Got some video from my swims on the weekend. Lane 6 (closest to the camera) for the 200 free, Lane 5 for the other two. If anyone follows the swim threads on ST, JasoninHalifax is in the lane beside me for the 200 free. My turnover seems to be quite a bit slower than the others. 50 free - https://www.youtube.com/ You really are a triathlete - you go to a running race with an Ironman visor and a swim meet with no cap! Just doing my bit to maintain the stereotypes. One of our backstroke guys went without a cap at the last meet. Last time he went with one, but had some trouble with water coming over his face. We figured it was due to the cap as he normally goes without in training. The hair keeps it out normally. 59 and a full head of hair, so he kind of likes it. He's obsessed with backstroke though, opting to do the entire 400 free as backstroke. He usually has a 3:1 pattern of free to backstroke in the mile as well. Think he went 1:1 in the LCM meet, totally befuddling out backstroke sprinter when he looked over the splits. |
2014-11-10 12:23 PM in reply to: brigby1 |
Veteran 1677 Houston, Texas | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by GoFaster Originally posted by ligersandtions Originally posted by axteraa Masters meet this afternoon. SCM 200 free - 2:20.69 200 free was good, 50 free ( 2 hours later) - not so good, 100 breast (15 mins after 50 free) was pretty good. Those are some FAST times, Arend! Congrats! I did a 200 off the blocks last week and was about 27 seconds slower than you....it's crazy to me how fast you are when I can put it into perspective like that! Only 27sec? Nicole you're a fair bit faster than me then. I just don't understand these times when compared to my own swimming. I would have actually guessed a little closer, but that's probably the longer race focus. Less experience at swim race intensity. Off the blocks and being in a swim meet matters. I've surprised myself there on the short ones. I'm pretty sure I had a few more seconds in me, but I had a few things working against me. First, I suck at block starts! I only manage to keep my goggles on about 50% of the time....and also tend to go too deep. All of this will get better with practice, of course. Second, I was so excited that I kept my goggles on my face that I basically sprinted 25m and ended up limping in the last 50m or so. Better pacing would have resulted in a better time. Live and learn Also, I agree with you, Ben -- there's something about a race that gives you a little extra. My (stretch) goal is to be able to qualify for USMS Nationals in the 100m and 200m free distances. |
2014-11-10 1:00 PM in reply to: ligersandtions |
Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by ligersandtions Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by GoFaster Originally posted by ligersandtions Originally posted by axteraa Masters meet this afternoon. SCM 200 free - 2:20.69 200 free was good, 50 free ( 2 hours later) - not so good, 100 breast (15 mins after 50 free) was pretty good. Those are some FAST times, Arend! Congrats! I did a 200 off the blocks last week and was about 27 seconds slower than you....it's crazy to me how fast you are when I can put it into perspective like that! Only 27sec? Nicole you're a fair bit faster than me then. I just don't understand these times when compared to my own swimming. I would have actually guessed a little closer, but that's probably the longer race focus. Less experience at swim race intensity. Off the blocks and being in a swim meet matters. I've surprised myself there on the short ones. I'm pretty sure I had a few more seconds in me, but I had a few things working against me. First, I suck at block starts! I only manage to keep my goggles on about 50% of the time....and also tend to go too deep. All of this will get better with practice, of course. Second, I was so excited that I kept my goggles on my face that I basically sprinted 25m and ended up limping in the last 50m or so. Better pacing would have resulted in a better time. Live and learn Also, I agree with you, Ben -- there's something about a race that gives you a little extra. My (stretch) goal is to be able to qualify for USMS Nationals in the 100m and 200m free distances. That would be a nice goal with short course being down in Texas (San Antonio) for the spring. I don't think the qualifying times are out of reach, but would depend on how much time you'd want to dedicate to swimming. Wish I knew better, but don't think it would have to be swim team crazy volumes. I've done the 100 you need (almost from the wall too) and should have been able to do the 200. And unfortunately for me, while I did get something extra for the races, everyone else seemed to get more! I'm going with me being able to call it up more often in practice. It didn't take too long to figure out the dive angle. A few dives after a few separate practices and things were good. I was actually scraping the bottom (literally) the first couple times. The goggles was going a couple notches tighter on the band and also ducking my head much farther than I had ever thought to. Essentially going in blind once off the blocks. I may have actually saved a little much early on with the pacing, getting used to the hurt of the really short events. |
2014-11-10 2:42 PM in reply to: marcag |
Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by marcag Originally posted by ChrisM I try to find the positive about every race, this one both my friend and I said at the end "never again, that was awful." But here even 24 hours later, the nostalgia is setting in a little bit, and I am remembering the pain less and less and the experience a bit more. And 48hours later he registers for another :-) Congratulations for slugging it out ! Hehe. Nice going Chris! It can be hard to know for sure about some events when going through the difficulties you did. |
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2014-11-10 3:27 PM in reply to: brigby1 |
Veteran 1677 Houston, Texas | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Unfortunately USMS Nationals are the same weekend as Galveston 70.3 and I had already registered for the 70.3. So I'd be doing swim meets just for fun and to see if I could do it. I'm also currently on a run focus, so not willing to swim more than 3x a week. Maybe I'll do a swim focus some year, but run is my weakness and bike is my favorite, so you know how that goes! |
2014-11-10 5:49 PM in reply to: ligersandtions |
Extreme Veteran 5722 | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Prediction for Bahrain in future versions they will make it longer than current format (maybe IM) they will at least double the money ($1M) they will align with ITU to make it a real world championship they will screw up Kona in the process |
2014-11-10 5:53 PM in reply to: marcag |
Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by marcag Prediction for Bahrain in future versions they will make it longer than current format (maybe IM) they will at least double the money ($1M) they will align with ITU to make it a real world championship they will screw up Kona in the process Interesting thoughts. What would you think of a triple Oly vs IM for it? Considering the ITU alignment with that thought. |
2014-11-10 5:55 PM in reply to: ligersandtions |
Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by ligersandtions Unfortunately USMS Nationals are the same weekend as Galveston 70.3 and I had already registered for the 70.3. So I'd be doing swim meets just for fun and to see if I could do it. I'm also currently on a run focus, so not willing to swim more than 3x a week. Maybe I'll do a swim focus some year, but run is my weakness and bike is my favorite, so you know how that goes! Ah! That would make it difficult! |
2014-11-10 6:10 PM in reply to: brigby1 |
Extreme Veteran 5722 | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by marcag Prediction for Bahrain in future versions they will make it longer than current format (maybe IM) they will at least double the money ($1M) they will align with ITU to make it a real world championship they will screw up Kona in the process Interesting thoughts. What would you think of a triple Oly vs IM for it? Considering the ITU alignment with that thought. Could be. The contenders can swim, so I don't see why not. Getting ITU WC status would add credibility. This is going to be fun. Rumor is the Brownlees are in for Bahrain this year. Gomez out. |
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2014-11-12 7:53 AM in reply to: marcag |
Veteran 1677 Houston, Texas | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! In the spirit of complaining about winter....I don't know how you guys with real winters do it. I actually bailed on my run last night because it was dark, cold (50F), windy, and drizzling. It's not bailing if you're just switching "off" days, right? |
2014-11-12 7:59 AM in reply to: 0 |
Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by ligersandtions In the spirit of complaining about winter....I don't know how you guys with real winters do it. I actually bailed on my run last night because it was dark, cold (50F), windy, and drizzling. It's not bailing if you're just switching "off" days, right? Yes, that's the rationalization to use. ~38F, overcast, had just finished raining and a 16 mph NW wind I was running into for the way home. This is still shorts weather. ETA: When there is rain involved it is quite a bit harder to deal with as the amount of heat the water draws away is rather substantial. Cold & rain is much worse until temps drop down much lower with drier or even with some snow out. The risk of hypothermia is much greater with the way water can draw heat so quickly. Edited by brigby1 2014-11-12 8:01 AM |
2014-11-12 8:46 AM in reply to: ligersandtions |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by ligersandtions In the spirit of complaining about winter....I don't know how you guys with real winters do it. I actually bailed on my run last night because it was dark, cold (50F), windy, and drizzling. It's not bailing if you're just switching "off" days, right? I'm struggling with the sympathy. Sounds like our weather for the last 2 weeks. |
2014-11-12 9:20 AM in reply to: axteraa |
Elite 3779 Ontario | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by axteraa Originally posted by ligersandtions In the spirit of complaining about winter....I don't know how you guys with real winters do it. I actually bailed on my run last night because it was dark, cold (50F), windy, and drizzling. It's not bailing if you're just switching "off" days, right? I'm struggling with the sympathy. Sounds like our weather for the last 2 weeks. I got a good chuckle out of 50F + winter in the same sentence... |
2014-11-12 12:29 PM in reply to: 0 |
Master 1793 Essex Jct, VT | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by ligersandtions In the spirit of complaining about winter....I don't know how you guys with real winters do it. I actually bailed on my run last night because it was dark, cold (50F), windy, and drizzling. It's not bailing if you're just switching "off" days, right? That looks to be my limit for outside rides and I live in Vermont. I know I need better winter riding gear. I just don't like feeling cold. Since I have dropped to roughly 11% bf, I have become even less tolerant. Oh, and what's an "off" day? Edited by rsmoylan 2014-11-12 12:30 PM |
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2014-11-12 12:30 PM in reply to: GoFaster |
Veteran 1677 Houston, Texas | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by GoFaster Originally posted by axteraa Originally posted by ligersandtions In the spirit of complaining about winter....I don't know how you guys with real winters do it. I actually bailed on my run last night because it was dark, cold (50F), windy, and drizzling. It's not bailing if you're just switching "off" days, right? I'm struggling with the sympathy. Sounds like our weather for the last 2 weeks. I got a good chuckle out of 50F + winter in the same sentence... If it makes you feel any better, it was 46F and I swam in an outdoor pool this morning....Friday morning is slated to be in the upper 30's and I'll be swimming in the outdoor pool again. We spent the whole summer (from May through September) never seeing below 78F....if you ask me to pick between running in 95F versus 45F, I'm inclined to pick the 95F even though I know I'd be faster at 45F! Also, there's a LOT to be said about it being drizzly, windy, and dark....that would feel cold to me at 75F, but I'd be fine to run at 45F if it were sunny. Whole lotta screwed up mental-ness going on in my brain :P |
2014-11-12 12:41 PM in reply to: GoFaster |
Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by GoFaster Originally posted by axteraa Originally posted by ligersandtions In the spirit of complaining about winter....I don't know how you guys with real winters do it. I actually bailed on my run last night because it was dark, cold (50F), windy, and drizzling. It's not bailing if you're just switching "off" days, right? I'm struggling with the sympathy. Sounds like our weather for the last 2 weeks. I got a good chuckle out of 50F + winter in the same sentence... This past Sunday we had a cold front roll through. Completely overcast all day and temps got down into mid 60's! Of course it then warmed up to around 75. :\ |
2014-11-12 1:13 PM in reply to: ligersandtions |
Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by ligersandtions Originally posted by GoFaster Originally posted by axteraa Originally posted by ligersandtions In the spirit of complaining about winter....I don't know how you guys with real winters do it. I actually bailed on my run last night because it was dark, cold (50F), windy, and drizzling. It's not bailing if you're just switching "off" days, right? I'm struggling with the sympathy. Sounds like our weather for the last 2 weeks. I got a good chuckle out of 50F + winter in the same sentence... If it makes you feel any better, it was 46F and I swam in an outdoor pool this morning....Friday morning is slated to be in the upper 30's and I'll be swimming in the outdoor pool again. We spent the whole summer (from May through September) never seeing below 78F....if you ask me to pick between running in 95F versus 45F, I'm inclined to pick the 95F even though I know I'd be faster at 45F! Also, there's a LOT to be said about it being drizzly, windy, and dark....that would feel cold to me at 75F, but I'd be fine to run at 45F if it were sunny. Whole lotta screwed up mental-ness going on in my brain :P What was the water temp? |
2014-11-12 3:32 PM in reply to: brigby1 |
Veteran 1677 Houston, Texas | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Too hot for really hard efforts, but pretty comfortable for being in the water in cold ambient temperatures. In contrast, on Monday, the water temp was nearly 90F. I almost quit during the warm-up....I proceeded to miss all of my intervals and could only tolerate a low volume swim. Thankfully it seemed to be back under control today. |
2014-11-12 3:35 PM in reply to: ligersandtions |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! 90 degrees is disgusting! Our pool is usually 80-82 and it's too warm at times. I've never trained in an outdoor pool when it's that cool outside, must make for a mad dash to get dried off when you get out! |
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2014-11-12 3:38 PM in reply to: axteraa |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! I have a interesting (and scary) bike workout on tap for tomorrow. I predict suffering, starting out way too hard and dying badly. 10:00 easy |
2014-11-12 5:46 PM in reply to: axteraa |
Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by axteraa I have a interesting (and scary) bike workout on tap for tomorrow. I predict suffering, starting out way too hard and dying badly. 10:00 easy C'mon...add it all up and it's only like 6.5 minutes of hard riding and 36 minutes of easy riding. |
2014-11-12 5:59 PM in reply to: Jason N |
Master 1793 Essex Jct, VT | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by Jason N Originally posted by axteraa I have a interesting (and scary) bike workout on tap for tomorrow. I predict suffering, starting out way too hard and dying badly. 10:00 easy C'mon...add it all up and it's only like 6.5 minutes of hard riding and 36 minutes of easy riding. The time will be up before your brain registers that you are suffering. Sounds like a good hard ride. Good luck with it. |
2014-11-12 8:01 PM in reply to: axteraa |
Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by axteraa I have a interesting (and scary) bike workout on tap for tomorrow. I predict suffering, starting out way too hard and dying badly. 10:00 easy Hasn't your coach ever heard of the off season? sheesh! |
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