Behind the seat water bottle cage (Page 2)

Interesting, thanks David.  Never had one eject?  I like the Minoura cuz I could slide my butt back in bumpy sections and keep the bottles in.  But that might work better......

Also looks like I could put the tool bag right on top of the holder.

bryancd - 2008-01-08 1:20 PM I sit up as to avoid a potential crash, it's a bit unstable staying down on the bars and reaching backward at the same time. I also would not worry about it in the least, it will make no difference in your time if you sit up on the bull horns to drink, don't let fancy articles tell you different.

I usually stay aero but this is great advice from someone who crushed Kona so I would listen to him

I like the photo's you posted is that something you made yourself or/and if you bought it from where?

Reach back BETWEEN my legs to get the bottles? That's kind of silly sounding, and if you really saw where the bottles were relative to my body, it would be pretty obvious how to reach them. Get on your bike in the aero position and then try to scratch the back of your thigh.  How do you get there? I reach back and under my leg from the outside. There's no body twisting at all (because the top of the bottle is close enough), so the bike stays very stable while reaching (the instability comes when you have to keep the bike steady while trying to use the arm that's still on the bars to push your body sideways in order to twist around to reach the bottle).

The position of the bottles is behind the thighs, so they're already in "dirty" air. But what I'm saying is that the difference between the drag of the bottles in this position vs. the "correct" position according to John Cobb will be less that the difference made sitting up to reach the bottle that's in that correct position (even if you only do it twice).

It's pretty much the same bottle position that Sindballe used at Kona, but with the bottles turned around to point forward (and much easier to get at).

Exactly.

In fact, for my next events my plan was to not even carry more than one bottle.  With water stops every 10 miles I have plenty of opportunities to drink.

I would currently carry 3.  1 on the downtube and 2 behind.  And I'd sit up to move them around and drink.  No one has ever accused me of being slow on the bike .....

 seriously the end of the world isn't scheduled until after the fall elections if I'm interupting the media correctly.  Actually I'm more interested in the not losing the bottle part of his set up ,, I still have some work to do before i can be in a good aero position  for a whole race anyway.

I always find the bottle launching comments interesting because I ride on pretty rough roads (don't visit Nova Scotia for our roads ) and have only a Aquarack on my tribike (with the plastic cages) and have never lost a bottle either training or racing.

Shane