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2011-09-27 9:26 PM

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now that you've all picked yourselves up off the floor from laughing at me I have a question. 

I get that kickstands aren't a standard thing on road/race bikes.  WHY?  is it stricly a weight reduction thing or what.  I ask only because I find it a giganitic PITA to precariously prop my bike in the shop at my house--I'm constantly worried about it falling over and getting damaged especailly given the limited space I have and the residual stuff lying around from my wire's hobbies and  my longtime hobby of auto restoration.

anybody want to explain it to me.



2011-09-27 9:30 PM
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race bikes dont have kick stands for the same reason that sports cars dont come in automatics. They just dont
2011-09-27 9:30 PM
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2011-09-27 9:41 PM
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The kickstand goes next to the spoke protector and the reflectors.  In the trash.  You might as well have a bell on that thing!
2011-09-27 9:52 PM
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For a serious answer I think it's simply that on a "race bike" there's no need for anything that doesn't help you go faster in a race.  A kickstand only helps you when your not on your bike so therefore there's no reason for it in a race.

So, weight, drag, etc... are all reasons, but summed up as the others have stated it's just not needed.

2011-09-27 9:55 PM
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Bro - there is no reason. Put one on your bike, it'll be cool!! Then get the outside of the bike rack in T1 and just leave it there with the stand down.  You'd be da man in my book! Break the mold!

Edited by Left Brain 2011-09-27 9:58 PM


2011-09-27 10:37 PM
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This is another thread best answered on:

slowtwitch.com

 
2011-09-27 10:48 PM
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bwaaaaahahahahahahaaaa

They'll blow a gasket.Cool

2011-09-27 11:30 PM
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Left Brain - 2011-09-27 10:48 PM

bwaaaaahahahahahahaaaa

They'll blow a gasket.Cool

Hahahahaahahaha! That'd be worth signing up for.
2011-09-28 12:20 AM
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I saw a couple with matching Trek Madones with kickstands near the rear derailleur;  I tried to get a stealth picture but didn't have the heart to do it.
2011-09-28 5:21 AM
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http://www.topeak.com/products/StorageAndDisplay/FlashStandSlim
For the enthusiast who wants to stand or display their prized road bike without a conventional kickstand.


2011-09-28 6:20 AM
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Just do what I do, take it off when you go to race. Around the house I leave it for convenience when I ride to work or somewhere else that doesn't have a bike rack, but come race day it's laying on the floor of my truck with the reflectors and bell.
2011-09-28 7:58 AM
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falconsprint63 - 2011-09-27 10:26 PM

now that you've all picked yourselves up off the floor from laughing at me I have a question. 

I get that kickstands aren't a standard thing on road/race bikes.  WHY?  is it stricly a weight reduction thing or what.  I ask only because I find it a giganitic PITA to precariously prop my bike in the shop at my house--I'm constantly worried about it falling over and getting damaged especailly given the limited space I have and the residual stuff lying around from my wire's hobbies and  my longtime hobby of auto restoration.

anybody want to explain it to me.

Why not hang your bike (tires up) from the ceiling of your shop? Take the bike out of the clutter. 2 rubber coated utility hooks would probably cost about $2 and you just need to screw them into ceiling studs.
2011-09-28 11:13 AM
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I don't remember where I read this or if its true but I was under the impression that hanging the bike from the wheels can damage your wheels. The weight of the bike hanging on the wheels could misshape them I think. I know they sell a hanger that lifts the bike from the seat and the handle bars I have one but never put it up. I lean mine against a wall or keep it on the trainer (with the resistance backed away from the wheel to prevent flat spots)

2011-09-28 12:08 PM
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jeeper9281 - 2011-09-28 12:13 PM

 

I don't remember where I read this or if its true but I was under the impression that hanging the bike from the wheels can damage your wheels. The weight of the bike hanging on the wheels could misshape them I think. I know they sell a hanger that lifts the bike from the seat and the handle bars I have one but never put it up. I lean mine against a wall or keep it on the trainer (with the resistance backed away from the wheel to prevent flat spots)

I don't worry about it personally.  Of course I dont have expensive race wheels either, and I value the space.  So the weight of the bike is pulling on the wheels...If the bike is leaning against a wall, most of the weight is on the wheels anyway, though dispersed some by the tires.  I cant imagine the difference would be substantial to wheels that hold the bike weight plus a rider, when riding.  Disclaimer - I don't know much and don't assume responsibility for wobbly wheels :-)

2011-09-28 12:15 PM
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jeeper9281 - 2011-09-28 9:13 AM

 

I don't remember where I read this or if its true but I was under the impression that hanging the bike from the wheels can damage your wheels. The weight of the bike hanging on the wheels could misshape them I think. I know they sell a hanger that lifts the bike from the seat and the handle bars I have one but never put it up. I lean mine against a wall or keep it on the trainer (with the resistance backed away from the wheel to prevent flat spots)

My bike weighs 18 lbs, I weigh 177 lbs.  My logic, if it can handle my 88 1/2 lbs per wheel, it can handle 9 lbs per wheel.  I don't worry about hanging my bike.



2011-09-28 12:26 PM
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I actually totally agree with you. I don't see why a kickstand couldn't be designed to fold flat (integrated, really) with the frame when not in use.  A thin piece of aluminum can't possible weigh that much.

Stopping somewhere and leaning my bike usually works, and we have a myriad of stands at home, but I think it's ridiculous when you go to a bike event and everyone's bike is laying down all over the place.  More often than not, they are laying on their derailleurs, too.   I think it's dumb. 

Go ahead, make fun of me.

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2011-09-28 2:22 PM
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My daughter is the geekiest nerd on earth and twice as smart as me.  So, when she told me she wanted a bike, I was quite excited since she had shown no prior athletic interests.  I took her to my local bike shop and she picked out a moderately priced Trek and insisted that the owner add a kickstand.  He offered several reasons for not adding one and she said:  "I don't care about all that, I want a kickstand."  He added it.

2011-09-28 3:27 PM
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I ride an ancient Schwinn LeTour (1984) that I found on Craigslist because I couldn't bring myself to drop $$$$ on a bike when I have 3 kids to put through college on one income.  I'll go to a group workout and it kills me to see all these fancy bikes laying in the grass or leaned up carefully against a car while people get ready and I just drop my kickstand and set it wherever I want. 

I just want to say, "You spent what on that bike and they couldn't even throw in a kickstand?"

2011-09-28 3:33 PM
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I'm rockin' a 30-year old Schwinn World, with kickstand.

Yes, I have used it it T1......makes it easy to find.

I figure its a 30 lb. bike, a 2 oz. kickstand isn't gonna make any difference.

2011-09-28 3:53 PM
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This thread made my day!! Thank you everyone.  Now, where can I get a good basket to put on my bike?



2011-09-28 4:43 PM
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dmauter - 2011-09-28 2:53 PM

This thread made my day!! Thank you everyone.  Now, where can I get a good basket to put on my bike?



perfect, no need for a transition area at all. Put everything in your basket.
2011-09-28 4:50 PM
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medamullet - 2011-09-28 5:43 PM
dmauter - 2011-09-28 2:53 PM

This thread made my day!! Thank you everyone.  Now, where can I get a good basket to put on my bike?

perfect, no need for a transition area at all. Put everything in your basket.

Bonus points if that basket is also a bucket:



Edited by TriMyBest 2011-09-28 4:51 PM
2011-09-28 5:12 PM
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medamullet - 2011-09-28 3:43 PM
dmauter - 2011-09-28 2:53 PM

This thread made my day!! Thank you everyone.  Now, where can I get a good basket to put on my bike?

perfect, no need for a transition area at all. Put everything in your basket.

I like it.....

2011-09-28 7:06 PM
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There actually is a "racing" (or at least, performance oriented...) kickstand made by Rhode Gear called the "Flickstand".

It mounts on round tube bikes, mostly touring bikes, and holds the front wheel parallel to the down tube. It doesn't hold the bike up, but it makes it easier to lean the bike against a wall, especially if the bike has loaded panniers or touring bags on it.

Very early racing bikes at the turn of the century did feature kickstands of some sort, but they went away as the quest for simpler, lighter designs evolved.

Leaning your bike is something you kind of learn over the years by emulating others. Once you learn how to lean a bike so it likely won't fall over by angling the wheel into the wall you lean it against, and eyeball about the right angle to lean it, you don't miss the kickstand.

That said, a great American product is (was?) the Greenfield alloy, cut to length kickstand. I remember the story of a retailer in the Chicago area who sold so many Greenfield kickstands every year he could by a new car with the revenue.

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