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2012-03-01 12:54 PM

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http://ironman.com/events/ironman/worldchampionship/lottery/dont-miss-your-chance-to-win-a-coveted-entry-in-the-2012-ironman-world-championship#axzz1nafhzcPh

 

Missed the deadline?  You know, the same deadline that's been in place forever and everyone should have known about?  Don't worry, WTC feels they didn't make enough money off our dreams and hopes yet so they extended it.

Complete BS there.  For full disclosure I entered the lottery, on time.  What a slap in the face of all of us who had our s*#t together and got around to doing it in time.  Did they really expect there not to be a backlash about this?  Or is this further evidence that they don't care and are just trying to squeeze all of us addicts of every dollar possible?



2012-03-01 1:08 PM
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eh, it says a miscommunication, so maybe one of there affiliates misreported to some audience or something along those lines
2012-03-01 2:54 PM
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Glad you finally figured that out. 

Yet all their races sell out in minutes. They are a corporation, they could give a rats patootie about you and your race, all they care about is the shareholder profits they get from all the people that "have" to do an IM branded race, because 70.3 or 140.6 is not good enough if you cant get the tattoo.

they can keep em, i will never do one of their races.

2012-03-01 2:57 PM
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Climbinggonzo - 2012-03-01 7:54 AM

 Did they really expect there not to be a backlash about this? 

I didn't expect a backlash...but I guess I was wrong.

2012-03-01 3:03 PM
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Climbinggonzo - 2012-03-01 7:54 AM

 Did they really expect there not to be a backlash about this? 

I didn't expect a backlash...but I guess I was wrong.

You ought to see their FB post about this, currently over 50 comments from alot of pissed off people! 

2012-03-01 3:14 PM
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And all that the backlash is doing is giving the extension publicity so that people (like me) who didn't know it was extended now know and could sign up today.

If they had just kept their mouths shut and didn't spout off all those lazy people would never have known.

Thanks for posting this and giving me the heads up to go sign up today!



2012-03-01 3:21 PM
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jldicarlo - 2012-03-01 4:14 PM

And all that the backlash is doing is giving the extension publicity so that people (like me) who didn't know it was extended now know and could sign up today.

If they had just kept their mouths shut and didn't spout off all those lazy people would never have known.

Thanks for posting this and giving me the heads up to go sign up today!

That's cold.

 

 

2012-03-01 5:21 PM
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jldicarlo - 2012-03-01 1:14 PM

And all that the backlash is doing is giving the extension publicity so that people (like me) who didn't know it was extended now know and could sign up today.

If they had just kept their mouths shut and didn't spout off all those lazy people would never have known.

Thanks for posting this and giving me the heads up to go sign up today!

 

Agreed...  Initially I decided not to register for it because I am doing my first 70.3 in June, but honestly I'm offended by the OP so now I figure I might as well register.  Hell if I get a slot, I've got an extra 4 months to ramp up to the distance and I will be over training on the bike for the 70.3 due to a few other events so why not.  With a 12-14 hour bike ride planned in July, I just need to sort out the swim and run and I should be prepared, even if it is a 15-16 hour finish.  I've always thought completing the IM was about giving everyone a opportunity to demonstrate they can compete if they put their mind to it...  Not just those who registered by a certain date.

 

2012-03-01 5:22 PM
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PeteDin206 - 2012-03-01 5:21 PM
jldicarlo - 2012-03-01 1:14 PM

And all that the backlash is doing is giving the extension publicity so that people (like me) who didn't know it was extended now know and could sign up today.

If they had just kept their mouths shut and didn't spout off all those lazy people would never have known.

Thanks for posting this and giving me the heads up to go sign up today!

 

Agreed...  Initially I decided not to register for it because I am doing my first 70.3 in June, but honestly I'm offended by the OP so now I figure I might as well register.  Hell if I get a slot, I've got an extra 4 months to ramp up to the distance and I will be over training on the bike for the 70.3 due to a few other events so why not.  With a 12-14 hour bike ride planned in July, I just need to sort out the swim and run and I should be prepared, even if it is a 15-16 hour finish.  I've always thought completing the IM was about giving everyone a opportunity to demonstrate they can compete if they put their mind to it...  Not just those who registered by a certain date.

 

 

Yes, but in the time allowed...

Note, I am all for the lottery, and the ONLY way I would ever get to Kona and if this extension gives people more time to register to accomplish their dreams, then so be it.  Just not like WTC to extend a cutoff is all I'm saying..



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PeteDin206 - 2012-03-01 5:21 PM
jldicarlo - 2012-03-01 1:14 PM

And all that the backlash is doing is giving the extension publicity so that people (like me) who didn't know it was extended now know and could sign up today.

If they had just kept their mouths shut and didn't spout off all those lazy people would never have known.

Thanks for posting this and giving me the heads up to go sign up today!

 

Agreed...  Initially I decided not to register for it because I am doing my first 70.3 in June, but honestly I'm offended by the OP so now I figure I might as well register.  Hell if I get a slot, I've got an extra 4 months to ramp up to the distance and I will be over training on the bike for the 70.3 due to a few other events so why not.  With a 12-14 hour bike ride planned in July, I just need to sort out the swim and run and I should be prepared, even if it is a 15-16 hour finish.  I've always thought completing the IM was about giving everyone a opportunity to demonstrate they can compete if they put their mind to it...  Not just those who registered by a certain date.

 

Really?  Wow.

2012-03-01 5:40 PM
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Climbinggonzo - 2012-03-01 10:03 AM
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Climbinggonzo - 2012-03-01 7:54 AM

 Did they really expect there not to be a backlash about this? 

I didn't expect a backlash...but I guess I was wrong.

You ought to see their FB post about this, currently over 50 comments from alot of pissed off people! 

Meh...people whine about lots of things.  If I were the WTC...I would say it's par for the course.

 



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Climbinggonzo - 2012-03-01 3:38 PM
PeteDin206 - 2012-03-01 5:21 PM
jldicarlo - 2012-03-01 1:14 PM

And all that the backlash is doing is giving the extension publicity so that people (like me) who didn't know it was extended now know and could sign up today.

If they had just kept their mouths shut and didn't spout off all those lazy people would never have known.

Thanks for posting this and giving me the heads up to go sign up today!

 

Agreed...  Initially I decided not to register for it because I am doing my first 70.3 in June, but honestly I'm offended by the OP so now I figure I might as well register.  Hell if I get a slot, I've got an extra 4 months to ramp up to the distance and I will be over training on the bike for the 70.3 due to a few other events so why not.  With a 12-14 hour bike ride planned in July, I just need to sort out the swim and run and I should be prepared, even if it is a 15-16 hour finish.  I've always thought completing the IM was about giving everyone a opportunity to demonstrate they can compete if they put their mind to it...  Not just those who registered by a certain date.

 

Really?  Wow.

I wonder if it's because you put the words "lazy people" in your initial post. Wink

2012-03-01 6:08 PM
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I wouldn't say I've been missing it, Bob.
2012-03-01 6:09 PM
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If I get selected and can't finish in 17:00, I'm going to ask WTC to extend my deadline to finish the race.
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kloofyroland - 2012-03-01 4:04 PM
Climbinggonzo - 2012-03-01 3:38 PM
PeteDin206 - 2012-03-01 5:21 PM
jldicarlo - 2012-03-01 1:14 PM

And all that the backlash is doing is giving the extension publicity so that people (like me) who didn't know it was extended now know and could sign up today.

If they had just kept their mouths shut and didn't spout off all those lazy people would never have known.

Thanks for posting this and giving me the heads up to go sign up today!

 

Agreed...  Initially I decided not to register for it because I am doing my first 70.3 in June, but honestly I'm offended by the OP so now I figure I might as well register.  Hell if I get a slot, I've got an extra 4 months to ramp up to the distance and I will be over training on the bike for the 70.3 due to a few other events so why not.  With a 12-14 hour bike ride planned in July, I just need to sort out the swim and run and I should be prepared, even if it is a 15-16 hour finish.  I've always thought completing the IM was about giving everyone a opportunity to demonstrate they can compete if they put their mind to it...  Not just those who registered by a certain date.

 

Really?  Wow.

I wonder if it's because you put the words "lazy people" in your initial post. Wink

Ding ding ding... We have a winner Pat! Tell them what they've won. And it wasn't the OP who said that, but he sure seemed to suggest it.

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2012-03-02 12:11 AM
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Goosedog - 2012-03-01 3:21 PM
jldicarlo - 2012-03-01 4:14 PM

And all that the backlash is doing is giving the extension publicity so that people (like me) who didn't know it was extended now know and could sign up today.

If they had just kept their mouths shut and didn't spout off all those lazy people would never have known.

Thanks for posting this and giving me the heads up to go sign up today!

That's cold.

 

 

But true.  I signed up today thanks to this post!



2012-03-02 12:23 AM
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Climbinggonzo - 2012-03-01 3:03 PM
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Climbinggonzo - 2012-03-01 7:54 AM

 Did they really expect there not to be a backlash about this? 

I didn't expect a backlash...but I guess I was wrong.

You ought to see their FB post about this, currently over 50 comments from alot of pissed off people! 

 

Oh god.....50 people...and they're pissed off? 

This is scary. Laughing

2012-03-02 7:29 AM
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Any idea how many enter the lotto and how many get selected? How many total participants are there?

I’m new, so don’t worry I won’t enter! I actually get out of the pool, or off my bike completely whipped thinking how in f%*#  could I ever finish an Ironman?!

Seems like a “Bucket List” race. In my other life there a few similar events, the Baja 1000, 24 hours of Daytona, Le Mans that bring out people just for the finisher pin, snap shot for their office or impressive cocktail party stories.  The difference in auto racing is you have enough money for an endurance race, you can hire a couple fast guys to run the race, then drive across the finish line for the photo’s.  

I guess if you finish in Kona it likely has little to do with your bank account and everything to do with dedication and perseverance. I'm starting to understand...

2012-03-02 9:18 AM
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My sugestion would be to not enter next year in protest and help the odds for the thousands of others more than happy to pay $40 to have a shot.
2012-03-02 9:42 AM
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Rudedog55 - 2012-03-01 3:54 PM

Glad you finally figured that out. 

Yet all their races sell out in minutes. They are a corporation, they could give a rats patootie about you and your race, all they care about is the shareholder profits they get from all the people that "have" to do an IM branded race, because 70.3 or 140.6 is not good enough if you cant get the tattoo.

they can keep em, i will never do one of their races.



I can never figure out why people have so much vitriole towards WTC. They are a for profit corporation. They have a great product that is in demand. They would be foolish not to capitalize on it. Do people think that other large race companies don't plan on making a profit? We are lucky they aren't charging $1000/race because I think they could probably get it given the demand. (WTC, if you are reading this, please ignore that prior sentence)

I think they do care about the racers and their races. Why? Because if they don't care and put out a good product then they will eventually lose market share to those that care more. That is good business too. Meeting the racer's needs helps them achieve their goals.

I guess I should be happy there are so many people who will, "never do one of their races" because that gives me a better chance to get in and have a fabulous race experience. To each their own.
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Thanks for posting.  I can't believe I missed this.  I mean, I come in work 15 minutes late, go through back door so my boss doesn't see me, space out for about an hour, I probably only do about 15 minutes of real solid work in a day, the rest of the time I post on BT and play Tetris.

I just hope my lazy a$$ gets in.

Happy Friday everyone Cool



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Rudedog55 - 2012-03-01 3:54 PM

Glad you finally figured that out. 

Yet all their races sell out in minutes. They are a corporation, they could give a rats patootie about you and your race, all they care about is the shareholder profits they get from all the people that "have" to do an IM branded race, because 70.3 or 140.6 is not good enough if you cant get the tattoo.

they can keep em, i will never do one of their races.

I can never figure out why people have so much vitriole towards WTC. They are a for profit corporation. They have a great product that is in demand. They would be foolish not to capitalize on it. Do people think that other large race companies don't plan on making a profit? We are lucky they aren't charging $1000/race because I think they could probably get it given the demand. (WTC, if you are reading this, please ignore that prior sentence) I think they do care about the racers and their races. Why? Because if they don't care and put out a good product then they will eventually lose market share to those that care more. That is good business too. Meeting the racer's needs helps them achieve their goals. I guess I should be happy there are so many people who will, "never do one of their races" because that gives me a better chance to get in and have a fabulous race experience. To each their own.

 

Very simple, A lot of race organizations have a great product, WTC is predatory, they target local races and try to directly compete to monopolize the market, so they can overcharge for a race and reap the profits for the shareholder.  While it may be good practice to have a profitable company, and i do not begrudge them for wanting to make a profit, as i do understand it is a business, I chose to not support them. I chose to support the smaller local RD's and races, as i can have as great a race experience as you.

I merely voice my opinion, and we all know about opinions, they are like butt holes everyone has one and they all stink.

so you are welcome, enjoy the spot and race, and great job at the WC last year.

 

 

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Rudedog55 - 2012-03-01 3:54 PM

Glad you finally figured that out. 

Yet all their races sell out in minutes. They are a corporation, they could give a rats patootie about you and your race, all they care about is the shareholder profits they get from all the people that "have" to do an IM branded race, because 70.3 or 140.6 is not good enough if you cant get the tattoo.

they can keep em, i will never do one of their races.

I can never figure out why people have so much vitriole towards WTC. They are a for profit corporation. They have a great product that is in demand. They would be foolish not to capitalize on it. Do people think that other large race companies don't plan on making a profit? We are lucky they aren't charging $1000/race because I think they could probably get it given the demand. (WTC, if you are reading this, please ignore that prior sentence) I think they do care about the racers and their races. Why? Because if they don't care and put out a good product then they will eventually lose market share to those that care more. That is good business too. Meeting the racer's needs helps them achieve their goals. I guess I should be happy there are so many people who will, "never do one of their races" because that gives me a better chance to get in and have a fabulous race experience. To each their own.

Couldn't agree with you more.  Considering most of their races completely sell out in minutes, they could obviously jack their entry fees WAAAAAY up and still sell out, perhaps it would just take months instead of minutes.  I for one am glad they charge what they charge, I can still manage to barely afford it. And I couldn't be happier that I spent double the price after seeing and feeling the electricity in the atmosphere the entire week I was in Tempe.  I don't know what other full distance races feel like, but just can't imagine they draw the 10's of thousands of spectators that Arizona drew.  It just raised the adrenaline that much more. 

Its not like we're talking about a commodity required for life, like food or water, it's an optional expense.  For profit companies can charge whatever the market will bear.  Especially with something that's as much of a luxury as Ironman.  Like you said, I hope they ignore these posts!

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Rudedog55 - 2012-03-02 11:19 AM

wannabefaster - 2012-03-02 10:42 AM
Rudedog55 - 2012-03-01 3:54 PM

Glad you finally figured that out. 

Yet all their races sell out in minutes. They are a corporation, they could give a rats patootie about you and your race, all they care about is the shareholder profits they get from all the people that "have" to do an IM branded race, because 70.3 or 140.6 is not good enough if you cant get the tattoo.

they can keep em, i will never do one of their races.

I can never figure out why people have so much vitriole towards WTC. They are a for profit corporation. They have a great product that is in demand. They would be foolish not to capitalize on it. Do people think that other large race companies don't plan on making a profit? We are lucky they aren't charging $1000/race because I think they could probably get it given the demand. (WTC, if you are reading this, please ignore that prior sentence) I think they do care about the racers and their races. Why? Because if they don't care and put out a good product then they will eventually lose market share to those that care more. That is good business too. Meeting the racer's needs helps them achieve their goals. I guess I should be happy there are so many people who will, "never do one of their races" because that gives me a better chance to get in and have a fabulous race experience. To each their own.

 

Very simple, A lot of race organizations have a great product, WTC is predatory, they target local races and try to directly compete to monopolize the market, so they can overcharge for a race and reap the profits for the shareholder.  While it may be good practice to have a profitable company, and i do not begrudge them for wanting to make a profit, as i do understand it is a business, I chose to not support them. I chose to support the smaller local RD's and races, as i can have as great a race experience as you.

I merely voice my opinion, and we all know about opinions, they are like butt holes everyone has one and they all stink.

so you are welcome, enjoy the spot and race, and great job at the WC last year.

 

 



Well written.

Thanks. My race last year is certainly a high point in my competitive life and perhaps shades my opinions a bit.
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I entered hoping not to win but to earn more entries for future lotteries so it is in my favor this year.
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