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2012-07-27 3:33 PM in reply to: #4334508 |
Sensei Sin City | Subject: RE: Chick-Fil- jgaither - 2012-07-27 1:24 PM runningwoof - 2012-07-27 3:19 PM Concordia University Irvine...would have graduated in 92...but I quit school to go into the Navy. I wasn't out yet, I thought being in the Navy might make me straight...um...I didn't count on being surrounded by 1000s of gorgeous in shape men in uniform and all showering together...yeah...really didn't cure me! why am I hearing the village people? dibs on cop or construction worker. I never quite "got" the indian... |
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2012-07-27 3:35 PM in reply to: #4334494 |
Champion 18680 Lost in the Luminiferous Aether | Subject: RE: Chick-Fil- verga - 2012-07-27 4:16 PM trinnas - 2012-07-27 1:04 PM verga - 2012-07-27 12:55 PM trinnas - 2012-07-27 11:53 AM Goosedog - 2012-07-27 11:46 AM trinnas - 2012-07-27 11:34 AM Apples and oranges one is voicing an opinion the other is acting in a discriminatory fashion. This is old news (and I appreciate that the source is biased) but WinShape does, apparently, refuse to allow LBGT couples at their marriage camps. I don't know if this story has been debunked or not, but, if true, that is acting in a discriminatory fashion. Personally, I don't have a problem with a private marriage camp being open only to man/woman couples, but it is discriminatory. If true. http://news.change.org/stories/yes-chick-fil-a-says-we-explicitly-do-not-like-same-sex-couples
Now that is a much murkier issue as you are now getting into freedom of religion areas. The Catholic church is allowed to discriminate against women by not making them priests yet there is no outcry over that. Jesus appointed men to the position of apostles, the priests are the succesors of those twleve. Women served in otehr capacities. Look up the New Testament and you will see Lydia and Priscilla. So their discrimination is based on religion. what is your point?
The point is that it is NOT discrimination. Jesus set the requirements / criteria for the job and the Church is following through. Various jobs have requirements for those positions, if you don't meet the requirements you can't have the job. That is not discrimination. Ie Radio men on Naval vessels were at one time required to know Morse Code. If you didn't know code you couldn't do the job. Most job requirements cannot be based on gender unless they are religious which gets granted the exception along with the military. That does not mean it is not discrimination. |
2012-07-27 3:38 PM in reply to: #4334499 |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Chick-Fil- runningwoof - 2012-07-27 3:19 PM Kido - 2012-07-27 1:15 PM runningwoof - 2012-07-27 1:06 PM tuwood - 2012-07-27 12:33 PM runningwoof - 2012-07-27 11:51 AM I respect the fact that you have a certain belief structure, I do not respect the actions of of trying to keep me from my belief. If, your religion says that two men or two women can not marry each other. Great! I won't get married in your church...but do not push legislation that prevents me from getting married in my church, or by the city. (I also think it funny that most people ignore the fact that in Leviticus, we aren't suppose to eat pork, and several Chick Fil A meals come with sausage...Just a side note. I actually agree with you on the pushing legislation and such. I'm pretty libertarian on the subject as a whole. I am a christian and I do have beliefs on the subject, but those are my beliefs and I don't impose, or attempt to impose them on anyone else. Also, just a quick note on the Leviticus reference. The bible has three categories of laws in the old testament. BTW, I'm not trying to push these beliefs on you or anyone else. i'm just merely providing why most christian's believe what they believe. It's not hypocrisy to eat pork or get a tattoo and not support homosexuality.
I have heard this before. I went to a Lutheran College and was very active in my church...but who split these up...where in the bible is it stated this way? There are also many different interpretations of what each of the passages meant. I am not a christian anymore...don't think I ever really believed in it...but I remember thinking at the time when I was at how easy it is to use a translation of a translation to match almost any belief...again, just my .02. I have heard many historians paint a very different picture of what many of the verses used to condemn homosexuality really meant. I am not saying I believe those theories either...just stating that the bible isn't as cut and dry as a lot of people like to think it is. Valpo? Class of 91-ish! Concordia University Irvine...would have graduated in 92...but I quit school to go into the Navy. I wasn't out yet, I thought being in the Navy might make me straight...um...I didn't count on being surrounded by 1000s of gorgeous in shape men in uniform and all showering together...yeah...really didn't cure me! lol, that's awesome. I was in from 91-97 stationed in San Diego. I joined the Navy to have sex with women all over the world. Then I went and got married at 18 and screwed that plan all up. Wasn't this thread about chicken or something a little while ago? |
2012-07-27 3:40 PM in reply to: #4334538 |
Champion 17756 SoCal | Subject: RE: Chick-Fil- tuwood - 2012-07-27 1:38 PM Wasn't this thread about chicken or something a little while ago? What are male chickens called? |
2012-07-27 3:41 PM in reply to: #4334543 |
Champion 7347 SRQ, FL | Subject: RE: Chick-Fil- Big Appa - 2012-07-27 4:40 PM tuwood - 2012-07-27 1:38 PM Wasn't this thread about chicken or something a little while ago? What are male chickens called? Roosters.... pervert.... |
2012-07-27 3:45 PM in reply to: #4334523 |
Elite 3519 San Jose, CA | Subject: RE: Chick-Fil- Kido - 2012-07-27 1:33 PM jgaither - 2012-07-27 1:24 PM runningwoof - 2012-07-27 3:19 PM Concordia University Irvine...would have graduated in 92...but I quit school to go into the Navy. I wasn't out yet, I thought being in the Navy might make me straight...um...I didn't count on being surrounded by 1000s of gorgeous in shape men in uniform and all showering together...yeah...really didn't cure me! why am I hearing the village people? dibs on cop or construction worker. I never quite "got" the indian... If I loose enough weight, I already have the leather for the Leather man outfit...wait, was that TMI...ok...I guess we should get off this tangent! |
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2012-07-27 3:47 PM in reply to: #4334465 |
Pro 6767 the Alabama part of Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Chick-Fil- tuwood - 2012-07-27 4:00 PM . ... I don't make them up, I just go by what I've been taught. I've only been a christian for 6 years so I'm very young in the faith. I know there are some Christian faiths who have different interpretations of the laws, but I would say that most mainstream bible teaching churches believe what I posted. Obviously that's a whole other argument and thread possibly, but I just wanted to point out why christians follow some old testament laws and not others. I'm not sure what you mean about boiling the kid. As part of the Civil law the Israelites were not supposed to cook a young goat in it's mother's milk (NIV translation) because it was superstitious thing at the time. taken from Forerunner Bible Commentary on Deuteronomy 14:21 That's kind of an interesting spin. I was taught in Hebrew School that boiling a kid in mother's milk (remember, we were a desert-dwelling people, with little water) was one way of preparing the meat. And that it was horribly cruel to not only take away the kid from the mother, but then to cook it in it's own mother's milk. Which is why I call it a "d*ck move". And that is part of the basis for not having any meat with dairy still - you do not want to even accidentally eat the offspring with the milk of it's mother. One interesting outcome of the keeping dietary laws alive during the diaspora is that it helped to keep judaism alive by basically forcing us to stay together to maintain the sanctity of the diet. Of course, I don't think there's anything in any of the bible about Chic-Fil-A....
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2012-07-27 3:47 PM in reply to: #4334547 |
Champion 17756 SoCal | Subject: RE: Chick-Fil- TriRSquared - 2012-07-27 1:41 PM Big Appa - 2012-07-27 4:40 PM tuwood - 2012-07-27 1:38 PM Wasn't this thread about chicken or something a little while ago? What are male chickens called? Roosters.... pervert.... South Carolina’s mascot is called the fighting what? |
2012-07-27 3:51 PM in reply to: #4334557 |
Sensei Sin City | Subject: RE: Chick-Fil- runningwoof - 2012-07-27 1:45 PM Kido - 2012-07-27 1:33 PM jgaither - 2012-07-27 1:24 PM runningwoof - 2012-07-27 3:19 PM Concordia University Irvine...would have graduated in 92...but I quit school to go into the Navy. I wasn't out yet, I thought being in the Navy might make me straight...um...I didn't count on being surrounded by 1000s of gorgeous in shape men in uniform and all showering together...yeah...really didn't cure me! why am I hearing the village people? dibs on cop or construction worker. I never quite "got" the indian... If I loose enough weight, I already have the leather for the Leather man outfit...wait, was that TMI...ok...I guess we should get off this tangent! That puts you a year or so younger than me. Let me know if you come to Vegas. I might have some people you might like to meet. Mostly dancers, if you are cool wit dat. |
2012-07-27 3:52 PM in reply to: #4334569 |
Sensei Sin City | Subject: RE: Chick-Fil- Big Appa - 2012-07-27 1:47 PM TriRSquared - 2012-07-27 1:41 PM Big Appa - 2012-07-27 4:40 PM tuwood - 2012-07-27 1:38 PM Wasn't this thread about chicken or something a little while ago? What are male chickens called? Roosters.... pervert.... South Carolina’s mascot is called the fighting what? what are ya? Ignant?
(remind me where that came from...) |
2012-07-27 3:52 PM in reply to: #4334585 |
Champion 17756 SoCal | Subject: RE: Chick-Fil- Kido - 2012-07-27 1:51 PM runningwoof - 2012-07-27 1:45 PM Kido - 2012-07-27 1:33 PM jgaither - 2012-07-27 1:24 PM runningwoof - 2012-07-27 3:19 PM Concordia University Irvine...would have graduated in 92...but I quit school to go into the Navy. I wasn't out yet, I thought being in the Navy might make me straight...um...I didn't count on being surrounded by 1000s of gorgeous in shape men in uniform and all showering together...yeah...really didn't cure me! why am I hearing the village people? dibs on cop or construction worker. I never quite "got" the indian... If I loose enough weight, I already have the leather for the Leather man outfit...wait, was that TMI...ok...I guess we should get off this tangent! That puts you a year or so younger than me. Let me know if you come to Vegas. I might have some people you might like to meet. Mostly dancers, if you are cool wit dat. He is already married. DB |
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2012-07-27 4:06 PM in reply to: #4334585 |
Elite 3519 San Jose, CA | Subject: RE: Chick-Fil- Kido - 2012-07-27 1:51 PM runningwoof - 2012-07-27 1:45 PM Kido - 2012-07-27 1:33 PM jgaither - 2012-07-27 1:24 PM runningwoof - 2012-07-27 3:19 PM Concordia University Irvine...would have graduated in 92...but I quit school to go into the Navy. I wasn't out yet, I thought being in the Navy might make me straight...um...I didn't count on being surrounded by 1000s of gorgeous in shape men in uniform and all showering together...yeah...really didn't cure me! why am I hearing the village people? dibs on cop or construction worker. I never quite "got" the indian... If I loose enough weight, I already have the leather for the Leather man outfit...wait, was that TMI...ok...I guess we should get off this tangent! That puts you a year or so younger than me. Let me know if you come to Vegas. I might have some people you might like to meet. Mostly dancers, if you are cool wit dat.
I am totally cool wit dat...but my husband is the jealous kind...so I doubt he would go for it...but you never know...
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2012-07-27 4:11 PM in reply to: #4334569 |
Master 2083 Houston, TX | Subject: RE: Chick-Fil- Big Appa - 2012-07-27 3:47 PM TriRSquared - 2012-07-27 1:41 PM Big Appa - 2012-07-27 4:40 PM tuwood - 2012-07-27 1:38 PM Wasn't this thread about chicken or something a little while ago? What are male chickens called? Roosters.... pervert.... South Carolina’s mascot is called the fighting what? can't remember but the should play Oregon State sometime. |
2012-07-27 4:20 PM in reply to: #4334655 |
Pro 4313 McKinney, TX | Subject: RE: Chick-Fil- jgaither - 2012-07-27 4:11 PM Big Appa - 2012-07-27 3:47 PM TriRSquared - 2012-07-27 1:41 PM Big Appa - 2012-07-27 4:40 PM tuwood - 2012-07-27 1:38 PM Wasn't this thread about chicken or something a little while ago? What are male chickens called? Roosters.... pervert.... South Carolina’s mascot is called the fighting what? can't remember but the should play Oregon State sometime. Round robin tourney with Wichita State? |
2012-07-27 4:28 PM in reply to: #4334671 |
Alpharetta, Georgia | Subject: RE: Chick-Fil- bradleyd3 - 2012-07-27 4:20 PM jgaither - 2012-07-27 4:11 PM Round robin tourney with Wichita State? Big Appa - 2012-07-27 3:47 PM TriRSquared - 2012-07-27 1:41 PM Big Appa - 2012-07-27 4:40 PM tuwood - 2012-07-27 1:38 PM Wasn't this thread about chicken or something a little while ago? What are male chickens called? Roosters.... pervert.... South Carolina’s mascot is called the fighting what? can't remember but the should play Oregon State sometime. ZING! I'm a Wichita State Shocker! |
2012-07-27 4:31 PM in reply to: #4334702 |
Master 2083 Houston, TX | Subject: RE: Chick-Fil- lisac957 - 2012-07-27 4:28 PM bradleyd3 - 2012-07-27 4:20 PM jgaither - 2012-07-27 4:11 PM Round robin tourney with Wichita State? Big Appa - 2012-07-27 3:47 PM TriRSquared - 2012-07-27 1:41 PM Big Appa - 2012-07-27 4:40 PM tuwood - 2012-07-27 1:38 PM Wasn't this thread about chicken or something a little while ago? What are male chickens called? Roosters.... pervert.... South Carolina’s mascot is called the fighting what? can't remember but the should play Oregon State sometime. ZING! I'm a Wichita State Shocker! that says so much. |
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2012-07-27 4:36 PM in reply to: #4331762 |
Elite 3519 San Jose, CA | Subject: RE: Chick-Fil- looks like I killed this thread!!!! mission accomplished...
One last thing, I am not sure how many people here go through life constantly being told you are wrong or bad...for us LGBT folks, it still happens everyday. Idiots on TV telling us, we are the reason a gunman killed people in an Aurora movie theatre, telling us, we are the cause for everything wrong in the world...there is only soooo much a person can take. Sometimes one thing strikes a nerve, and a single person becomes a community, and that community becomes a voice that needs to be heard. Whether or not we actually put a dent in Chick Fil A's profits isn't necessarily the point...we have used our voice which has caused a conversation here on BT...and maybe there is only 1 person that walks away with a changed mind...maybe not even a changed mind about a boycott, but just a better understanding of what my community goes through on a daily basis...maybe it is no one, maybe nothing changes, But without honest debates like this, we would get no where and the tide is turning to social tolerance, if not acceptance. I never thought I would stand up in city hall and say I do! now I have. I won't go back! If I have to become and activist to keep my marriage I will! I hope any straight couple would vow the same if for any reason their marriage was threatened.
We are not evil, and our only agenda is to live our lives openly and freely! Ok...I have said all I can on the subject |
2012-07-27 5:04 PM in reply to: #4334712 |
Champion 17756 SoCal | Subject: RE: Chick-Fil- jgaither - 2012-07-27 2:31 PM USC has South Carilina covered lisac957 - 2012-07-27 4:28 PM bradleyd3 - 2012-07-27 4:20 PM jgaither - 2012-07-27 4:11 PM Round robin tourney with Wichita State? Big Appa - 2012-07-27 3:47 PM TriRSquared - 2012-07-27 1:41 PM Big Appa - 2012-07-27 4:40 PM tuwood - 2012-07-27 1:38 PM Wasn't this thread about chicken or something a little while ago? What are male chickens called? Roosters.... pervert.... South Carolina’s mascot is called the fighting what? can't remember but the should play Oregon State sometime. ZING! I'm a Wichita State Shocker! that says so much. |
2012-07-27 5:05 PM in reply to: #4334780 |
Master 2083 Houston, TX | Subject: RE: Chick-Fil- Big Appa - 2012-07-27 5:04 PM jgaither - 2012-07-27 2:31 PM USC has South Carilina covered lisac957 - 2012-07-27 4:28 PM bradleyd3 - 2012-07-27 4:20 PM jgaither - 2012-07-27 4:11 PM Round robin tourney with Wichita State? Big Appa - 2012-07-27 3:47 PM TriRSquared - 2012-07-27 1:41 PM Big Appa - 2012-07-27 4:40 PM tuwood - 2012-07-27 1:38 PM Wasn't this thread about chicken or something a little while ago? What are male chickens called? Roosters.... pervert.... South Carolina’s mascot is called the fighting what? can't remember but the should play Oregon State sometime. ZING! I'm a Wichita State Shocker! that says so much. They help keep Oklahoma under control too. |
2012-07-27 5:19 PM in reply to: #4334728 |
Champion 34263 Chicago | Subject: RE: Chick-Fil- runningwoof - 2012-07-27 4:36 PM looks like I killed this thread!!!! mission accomplished...
One last thing, I am not sure how many people here go through life constantly being told you are wrong or bad...for us LGBT folks, it still happens everyday. Idiots on TV telling us, we are the reason a gunman killed people in an Aurora movie theatre, telling us, we are the cause for everything wrong in the world...there is only soooo much a person can take. Sometimes one thing strikes a nerve, and a single person becomes a community, and that community becomes a voice that needs to be heard. Whether or not we actually put a dent in Chick Fil A's profits isn't necessarily the point...we have used our voice which has caused a conversation here on BT...and maybe there is only 1 person that walks away with a changed mind...maybe not even a changed mind about a boycott, but just a better understanding of what my community goes through on a daily basis...maybe it is no one, maybe nothing changes, But without honest debates like this, we would get no where and the tide is turning to social tolerance, if not acceptance. I never thought I would stand up in city hall and say I do! now I have. I won't go back! If I have to become and activist to keep my marriage I will! I hope any straight couple would vow the same if for any reason their marriage was threatened.
We are not evil, and our only agenda is to live our lives openly and freely! Ok...I have said all I can on the subject Well, that, and to get into the pants of every straight homophobic guy in the world, according to every straight homophobic guy in the world. My straight friends: ``He better not hit on me.'' Me: ``I dont think you have much to worry about.'' |
2012-07-27 5:35 PM in reply to: #4334798 |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Chick-Fil- mr2tony - 2012-07-27 5:19 PM runningwoof - 2012-07-27 4:36 PM Well, that, and to get into the pants of every straight homophobic guy in the world, according to every straight homophobic guy in the world. My straight friends: ``He better not hit on me.'' Me: ``I dont think you have much to worry about.'' looks like I killed this thread!!!! mission accomplished...
One last thing, I am not sure how many people here go through life constantly being told you are wrong or bad...for us LGBT folks, it still happens everyday. Idiots on TV telling us, we are the reason a gunman killed people in an Aurora movie theatre, telling us, we are the cause for everything wrong in the world...there is only soooo much a person can take. Sometimes one thing strikes a nerve, and a single person becomes a community, and that community becomes a voice that needs to be heard. Whether or not we actually put a dent in Chick Fil A's profits isn't necessarily the point...we have used our voice which has caused a conversation here on BT...and maybe there is only 1 person that walks away with a changed mind...maybe not even a changed mind about a boycott, but just a better understanding of what my community goes through on a daily basis...maybe it is no one, maybe nothing changes, But without honest debates like this, we would get no where and the tide is turning to social tolerance, if not acceptance. I never thought I would stand up in city hall and say I do! now I have. I won't go back! If I have to become and activist to keep my marriage I will! I hope any straight couple would vow the same if for any reason their marriage was threatened.
We are not evil, and our only agenda is to live our lives openly and freely! Ok...I have said all I can on the subject At this point in my life I'm flattered if ANYONE hits on me. male or female. lol |
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2012-07-27 7:22 PM in reply to: #4331762 |
Member 119 Colorado Springs, Maryland | Subject: RE: Chick-Fil- The VP of public relations dropped dead today...karma? |
2012-07-27 7:33 PM in reply to: #4334529 |
Master 1440 | Subject: RE: Chick-Fil- trinnas - 2012-07-27 4:35 PM verga - 2012-07-27 4:16 PM trinnas - 2012-07-27 1:04 PM verga - 2012-07-27 12:55 PM trinnas - 2012-07-27 11:53 AM Goosedog - 2012-07-27 11:46 AM trinnas - 2012-07-27 11:34 AM Apples and oranges one is voicing an opinion the other is acting in a discriminatory fashion. This is old news (and I appreciate that the source is biased) but WinShape does, apparently, refuse to allow LBGT couples at their marriage camps. I don't know if this story has been debunked or not, but, if true, that is acting in a discriminatory fashion. Personally, I don't have a problem with a private marriage camp being open only to man/woman couples, but it is discriminatory. If true. http://news.change.org/stories/yes-chick-fil-a-says-we-explicitly-do-not-like-same-sex-couples
Now that is a much murkier issue as you are now getting into freedom of religion areas. The Catholic church is allowed to discriminate against women by not making them priests yet there is no outcry over that. Jesus appointed men to the position of apostles, the priests are the succesors of those twleve. Women served in otehr capacities. Look up the New Testament and you will see Lydia and Priscilla. So their discrimination is based on religion. what is your point?
The point is that it is NOT discrimination. Jesus set the requirements / criteria for the job and the Church is following through. Various jobs have requirements for those positions, if you don't meet the requirements you can't have the job. That is not discrimination. Ie Radio men on Naval vessels were at one time required to know Morse Code. If you didn't know code you couldn't do the job. Most job requirements cannot be based on gender unless they are religious which gets granted the exception along with the military. That does not mean it is not discrimination. Sigh, The job of surrogate mother requires a uterous, men are "lacking" that. It is not discrimination.
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2012-07-27 7:47 PM in reply to: #4334922 |
Master 2701 Salisbury, North Carolina | Subject: RE: Chick-Fil- Walkingtowin - 2012-07-27 8:22 PM The VP of public relations dropped dead today...karma? Did you not think that might be the slightest bit insensitive ? Edited by tri42 2012-07-27 8:04 PM |
2012-07-27 8:19 PM in reply to: #4334958 |
Master 2701 Salisbury, North Carolina | Subject: RE: Chick-Fil- After going through and reading the entire thread, I say Kudos to everyone for keeping it civil. One issue I have though is I would think most people would check their facts before posting that a donation directly/indirectly led to lives being forfeited. ESPECIALLY when this was even questioned if it was true by the poster. Maybe there was a follow-up/correction I missed. I hope so. |
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