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2012-07-26 11:30 AM

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Boycott or continue going?




2012-07-26 11:36 AM
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I won't eat there anymore, but I don't think of it as boycotting in the strict sense of the word. I have no desire to coerce them to change their stance.
2012-07-26 11:39 AM
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Where is the "I don't care" option?
2012-07-26 11:40 AM
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lisac957 - 2012-07-26 12:39 PM Where is the "I don't care" option?

x2 - Sell chicken and be on your way. 

2012-07-26 11:44 AM
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I never ate there to begin with, and I'm surely not going to start now.  I think if people want to boycott them, it should be because fast food is garbage.  Does their stance on being pro-descrimination make a difference?  For some people I guess it might.  Their position was one of the worst kept secrets, as they've been making political contributions to people that support their position for years.  I think they did it for the press.  People that will go there to show support were already eating there, people that won't eat there likely weren't doing it much anyhow. 

Either way, I've always thought their food looked gross, and their add campaign with poorly spelled words I find dumb enough to keep me out already.

2012-07-26 11:45 AM
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Vegetarian.


2012-07-26 11:46 AM
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If they would build one in "Sin City", I would have to make that decisioin.  But probably for the same reasons/person, they will never do that.

I go...  and it's not because I agree with the president of the company AT ALL but I don't see any reason NOT to go unless it just makes you personally feel better by not going there.  I have plenty I could say to make my point.  But not going to do it.  It would stretch on for ever.



Edited by Kido 2012-07-26 11:47 AM
2012-07-26 11:49 AM
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those sammiches are HEAVENLY
2012-07-26 11:49 AM
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mehaner - 2012-07-26 9:49 AM those sammiches are HEAVENLY
yup
2012-07-26 12:07 PM
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2012-07-26 12:09 PM
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I never got it. I've ate there maybe a hand full of times. Meh.


2012-07-26 12:11 PM
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Can somebody link a news story that cites Chick Fil A's corporate opinion?  All I can find are an individual's opinion, which, like buttholes, we've all got.
2012-07-26 12:15 PM
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roch1009 - 2012-07-26 1:11 PM Can somebody link a news story that cites Chick Fil A's corporate opinion?  All I can find are an individual's opinion, which, like buttholes, we've all got.

well, that individual is the president of the corporation.

2012-07-26 12:23 PM
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mehaner - 2012-07-26 1:15 PM

roch1009 - 2012-07-26 1:11 PM Can somebody link a news story that cites Chick Fil A's corporate opinion?  All I can find are an individual's opinion, which, like buttholes, we've all got.

well, that individual is the president of the corporation.

Well I'm sure company presidents off all kinds have opinions (or, gasp, behaviors) that I wouldn't agree with.  But if their businesses play fair, then I see no reason to punish the latter.

Oh, and n=1 and all, but by judging by the employees of the local Chick-fil-A, I don't believe the company is doing any discriminating.

 

Probably a better subject to consider boycotting (and timely, too) - Boy Scouts of America . . . .

http://www.mercurynews.com/opinion/ci_21163665/esther-j-cepeda-boy-scouts-are-only-buying

2012-07-26 12:24 PM
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I don’t think I’ve ever eaten at one, and I don’t think they have them here. Regardless, I wouldn’t go there now, because of their stance.

I actually respect their willingness to hold so steadfastly to their beliefs, but I’ll vote with my wallet with these one. Plenty of other fish, so to speak, in the fast-food sea.

I would add that I think they’ve done about as poor a job as possible in trying to get this message out in a way that reflects well on the company. I realize that it’s controversial but, between the signs claiming that they got rid of the Muppets toys because they were defective when everyone knows that Henson dropped them, to the bogus Facebook account, has been an embarrassment.

I also think, from an HR POV, there must be employment litigation attorneys around the country, licking their chops in anticipation of the discrimination lawsuits that will surely follow their ham-handed public handling of this issue. Gay marriage may not be protected everywhere, but homosexuality certainly is. And even though they don’t expressly say that they oppose homosexuality, it won’t be a big leap for an employee to claim, fairly or not, that they’re being discriminated against because of their sexual orientation.
2012-07-26 12:27 PM
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wgraves7582 - 2012-07-26 1:07 PM

I doubt a Christian backed company would have a different stance on marriage and they are not the only one in the world that feels this way - I can assure you of that!

I've thought about this, and wondered how many companies I "support" whose politics I don't agree with, but the fact is I don't know... but I do know what Chik-Fil-A believes.



2012-07-26 12:28 PM
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roch1009 - 2012-07-26 1:23 PM
mehaner - 2012-07-26 1:15 PM

roch1009 - 2012-07-26 1:11 PM Can somebody link a news story that cites Chick Fil A's corporate opinion?  All I can find are an individual's opinion, which, like buttholes, we've all got.

well, that individual is the president of the corporation.

Well I'm sure company presidents off all kinds have opinions (or, gasp, behaviors) that I wouldn't agree with.  But if their businesses play fair, then I see no reason to punish the latter.

Oh, and n=1 and all, but by judging by the employees of the local Chick-fil-A, I don't believe the company is doing any discriminating.

 

Probably a better subject to consider boycotting (and timely, too) - Boy Scouts of America . . . .

http://www.mercurynews.com/opinion/ci_21163665/esther-j-cepeda-boy-scouts-are-only-buying

How about financial donations to anti gay groups?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/17/dan-cathy-chick-fil-a-president-anti-gay_n_1680984.html

2012-07-26 12:28 PM
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I won't go out of my way to eat there, and I won't go out of my way to not eat there. If I wind up going, so be it. I don't care.

I don't know, maybe I don't get it. I don't see how boycotting the restaurant because their opinion differs will help. Ok, so they go out of business - so be it. They've done well enough already that I'm sure they can sit pretty on the pile of cash they already have.

Maybe I'm dark aged, maybe I'm simple minded, I don't know. But because they have a different opinion that mine, I should boycott them? If I don't believe we should drive trucks because their bad for the environment, does that mean I need to boycott all truck dealers?

It's the president of Chick-fil-a's opinion. I would have more issue with it if he were discriminating and refusing to serve those that don't believe his beliefs, but he didn't/isn't. Without that, it's just him stating his beliefs and what HE thinks. I'd have a hard time believing there's a checkmark on the "Franchise Owner Documents" that ask if you believe in same sex marriage or not and whether that had any judgement on you opening a store.

Either way, it's something that the Chick-fil-a president did, it's hit the media, and now we get to have a field day with it for the next week or two until everyone has their demonstrations and boycotts and what not. It'll pass...

2012-07-26 12:32 PM
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roch1009 - 2012-07-26 12:23 PM
mehaner - 2012-07-26 1:15 PM

roch1009 - 2012-07-26 1:11 PM Can somebody link a news story that cites Chick Fil A's corporate opinion?  All I can find are an individual's opinion, which, like buttholes, we've all got.

well, that individual is the president of the corporation.

Well I'm sure company presidents off all kinds have opinions (or, gasp, behaviors) that I wouldn't agree with.  But if their businesses play fair, then I see no reason to punish the latter.

Oh, and n=1 and all, but by judging by the employees of the local Chick-fil-A, I don't believe the company is doing any discriminating.

 

Probably a better subject to consider boycotting (and timely, too) - Boy Scouts of America . . . .

http://www.mercurynews.com/opinion/ci_21163665/esther-j-cepeda-boy-scouts-are-only-buying

Just to update you some more, Chick-fil-A has also contributed $2 million + to Pro-Marriage groups (like Marriage & Family Foundation )

2012-07-26 12:32 PM
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Just finished a yummy chickin sammich.  I don't agree with the CEO's personal views, but they make a good sandwich. If I boycott every company whose manager has different opinions than me, I'll run out of places to go.

 

2012-07-26 12:35 PM
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LostSheep - 2012-07-26 1:28 PM

I won't go out of my way to eat there, and I won't go out of my way to not eat there. If I wind up going, so be it. I don't care.

I don't know, maybe I don't get it. I don't see how boycotting the restaurant because their opinion differs will help. Ok, so they go out of business - so be it. They've done well enough already that I'm sure they can sit pretty on the pile of cash they already have.

Maybe I'm dark aged, maybe I'm simple minded, I don't know. But because they have a different opinion that mine, I should boycott them? If I don't believe we should drive trucks because their bad for the environment, does that mean I need to boycott all truck dealers?

It's the president of Chick-fil-a's opinion. I would have more issue with it if he were discriminating and refusing to serve those that don't believe his beliefs, but he didn't/isn't. Without that, it's just him stating his beliefs and what HE thinks. I'd have a hard time believing there's a checkmark on the "Franchise Owner Documents" that ask if you believe in same sex marriage or not and whether that had any judgement on you opening a store.

Either way, it's something that the Chick-fil-a president did, it's hit the media, and now we get to have a field day with it for the next week or two until everyone has their demonstrations and boycotts and what not. It'll pass...

I clicked "boycott" but that's probably too strong of a word.  I will probably reduce my CFA considerably (not that I ate it a lot anyway), but would not eliminate it completely (it's one of the only places near my work, and is also the closest fast food to my home).

What bothers me more than some dude's opinion is the monetary donations.  Everyone is entitled to an opinion.  But I, for one, start to feel uncomfortable knowing my money is being donated to causes I don't support.  I recognize many corporate entities are making donations / bribes to causes and politicians I don't support, but the information can be hard to obtain.  To me, if they so strongly support a cause, why not put that cause on the front page of their website?



2012-07-26 12:36 PM
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I guess I'm not sure if it's "their" stance or "his" stance (yes, I know he's the pres).  I'm betting MOST of the store franchise owners and employees don't agree with it.

If you "boycotted" each and every company where someone IN that company (even the pres) had a belief/opinion different than yours you feel strongly about, most likely, you would have many places to go.  I would also bet there are a lot of owners/presidents you would disagree with, they just happen to not put it out in public.

Other than personal "warm and fuzzies", not sure what the gain is.  You are not going to change his mind.  The company/franchises are selling to everyone without discrimination, I haven't seen anything that as a company they are against it.

AGAIN, I'm 180 degrees from the president's thoughts, but I don't see the point in a "boycot" except for personal good feelings.

2012-07-26 12:46 PM
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Kido - 2012-07-26 1:36 PM

AGAIN, I'm 180 degrees from the president's thoughts, but I don't see the point in a "boycot" except for personal good feelings.

It's about money for me. If they are going to give money to anti gay organizations, then I am not going to give them my money.



Edited by mrbbrad 2012-07-26 12:46 PM
2012-07-26 12:46 PM
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crowny2 - 2012-07-26 1:32 PM
roch1009 - 2012-07-26 12:23 PM
mehaner - 2012-07-26 1:15 PM

roch1009 - 2012-07-26 1:11 PM Can somebody link a news story that cites Chick Fil A's corporate opinion?  All I can find are an individual's opinion, which, like buttholes, we've all got.

well, that individual is the president of the corporation.

Well I'm sure company presidents off all kinds have opinions (or, gasp, behaviors) that I wouldn't agree with.  But if their businesses play fair, then I see no reason to punish the latter.

Oh, and n=1 and all, but by judging by the employees of the local Chick-fil-A, I don't believe the company is doing any discriminating.

 

Probably a better subject to consider boycotting (and timely, too) - Boy Scouts of America . . . .

http://www.mercurynews.com/opinion/ci_21163665/esther-j-cepeda-boy-scouts-are-only-buying

Just to update you some more, Chick-fil-A has also contributed $2 million + to Pro-Marriage groups (like Marriage & Family Foundation )

Well technically (is it so hard to link an article or two), they gave the money to the Cathy's foundation, which donated to the "pro-marriage" groups.

http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/chick-fil-a-has-spent-5-million-trying-to-stop-gay-marriage/discrimination/2012/07/02/42684

But that blurs the distinction I was making between corporate and individual.

So, that seals it - I'm headed to the hardware store to pick up some torches and pitchforks, then round up some villagers, and we'll go pay them a visit.

2012-07-26 12:49 PM
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mehaner - 2012-07-26 11:49 AM those sammiches are HEAVENLY

Yes very Heavenly.

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