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2006-08-20 4:43 PM


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Subject: age related question
Hello,

I m 34 years old and just started doing Tri. I ve been road racing for 10 years or so. Since I ve been road racing I ve felt myself slow down as the years went by.

My question: Am I past my prime or do you all think I can get faster in all three sports?

Thanks

Gall


2006-08-20 4:49 PM
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I'm 48 and still haven't hit my prime.  (Keep thinking positive)
2006-08-20 4:50 PM
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This is from the 2005 Jefferson Texas Sprint tri
Adult Males Adult Females
Name Age Time Name Age Time
Overall Overall
Robert Hepler 43 1:12:41 Amy Simonetta 33 1:25:30
Adam Wick 33 1:16:20 Gina Vandiver 25 1:27:25
Mathew H. Davis 27 1:18:23 Sally Sonnier 42 1:32:33


Look at the ages this should answer your question.
2006-08-20 4:54 PM
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A 44y/o just one the tri I was in recently.

2006-08-20 5:05 PM
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I'm 31, been doing tris for ~5 years, and I get faster every year.

2006-08-20 5:07 PM
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I'm 45, runner for 30 years but didn't start marathons until 1998. I've run 10 total and my 2:51 PR was my last one 2 years ago....age is in the mind.


2006-08-20 5:20 PM
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I'm 42 and can't wait til i'm 45 cuz all the fast guys are in the 40-44 age group (except me)
2006-08-20 5:33 PM
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50-yo here, did a tri Saturday where I finished 12th overall. Four ahead of me were also over 50 (two over 55). Only two of the male finishers in the top twelve were under forty.

After the overall and masters winners are culled from the field, I was first in my age group. There were eleven age groups for men and I would have won seven of them, finished second in three. The only one I would have finished third in is the age group OLDER than mine.

You're more limited by your attitude than your age.

2006-08-20 5:38 PM
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BellinghamSpence - 2006-08-20 5:49 PM I'm 48 and still haven't hit my prime. (Keep thinking positive)

I'm also 48 and always improving. Check the race results of just about any tri or running race and you will see that 40-49 year old men is a pretty competitive age group with an awful lot of entrants and some very fast people (not me of course)

I'm 42 and can't wait til i'm 45 cuz all the fast guys are in the 40-44 age group (except me)

I really don't think 45-49 gets any easier. I think I'll be competetive once I get over 70, maybe

 

2006-08-20 6:16 PM
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Yeah, I'm not too excited about moving up to the 30-34 age group. Those women pretty much kick my butt every time. I'm going to be BOP if I don't get faster!
2006-08-20 9:17 PM
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Sure you have slowed down, it is natural and part of the aging process.  But you can recover a lot of that speed, you just have to work at it.  You had natural speed when you were younger, now you must work to keep the speed.

One of the articles I read someplace said we lose about 5% of our speed every 5 years.  But that speedwork, and training can over come that.

I figure in high school I ran 5:00 minute miles, 12:00 minutes for 2.  I can't come close to that right now, but IF I work at it, I can cut the time that it takes me to run.  Biking is the same way.  Now I don't have time to train to get down to 6 minute miles, or I don't yet.  Maybe as I drop the extra 40 pounds that I am carring since high school I can shed some of the extra time it takes me to run.  I know I will never get back to the 126-130 I was, but I figure 160-155 looks awful good right now.



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gall1972 - 2006-08-20 2:43 PM Hello, I m 34 years old and just started doing Tri. I ve been road racing for 10 years or so. Since I ve been road racing I ve felt myself slow down as the years went by. My question: Am I past my prime or do you all think I can get faster in all three sports? Thanks Gall

I heard that 40 is the new 30.  So that makes you about 24, with plenty of time/distance/speed left in the body. 

2006-08-21 4:59 AM
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Everyone seems to be saying the same thing...age does matter but you can overcome some/most/all of the aging by correct training. I also came from a RR background, I am now 47 and consider myself to be competitive within my AG (poduims ect for AG). I study results fairly often to see who is racing well ect. I would say in my area that of the top 10 fastest guys, (sorry ladies don't really study your results that is), 7 of the top 10 are 40 or over(I am not one of them yet) with only one of those remaining 3 under 20. By the way you will find that you are going to have to change a lot of little things about your cycling training, set-up in the switch from RR to Tri (it is a TT everytime).

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2006-08-21 10:22 AM
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Well, one of the things that I keep reading/hearing about tri is that strength will only take you so far, and so fast. FORM is what matters the most because proper form will carry you through. This is an ENDURANCE sport, not a short burst of strength. Every time I improve my form, I get faster, not stronger.
With age comes wisdom. There is so much truth to the saying "youth is wasted on the young."
2006-08-21 1:25 PM
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I am 34 also and just started training a few months ago.  Right now I seem to get faster all the time but that's just because I haven't done much for the past 14 years.  I know I am past my prime for being an Elite or Pro but since this is an endurance sport all you have to do is outlast the competiton.  You'll see as you get older your odds improve at podiums during races. 

With proper training you should continue to improve for many more years. The cross training should help you improve some as well.  You might find a boost in your RR performance.

My goal is to play the game as long as I can and hope I outlive the competition!

2006-08-21 1:50 PM
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gall1972 - 2006-08-20 4:43 PM

Hello,

I m 34 years old and just started doing Tri. I ve been road racing for 10 years or so. Since I ve been road racing I ve felt myself slow down as the years went by.

My question: Am I past my prime or do you all think I can get faster in all three sports?

Thanks

Gall


34? Sell your bike and buy a walker while you can still move

If you've been a competitive cyclist, you'll probably notice that it gets harder and harder to ride "as fast as I used to..." If you haven't swam much, you have lots of room to get faster (but you'll probably never be as fast as you COULD HAVE BEEN 10 years ago) Same thing with running.

Having said this, endurance sports are less focused on "how fast" but rather on "how long" and age doesn't have much influence on whether you can run for 3 hours or not.


2006-08-21 2:09 PM
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Mile High Marc - 2006-08-21 2:25 PM

I am 34 also and just started training a few months ago.  Right now I seem to get faster all the time but that's just because I haven't done much for the past 14 years.  I know I am past my prime for being an Elite or Pro but since this is an endurance sport all you have to do is outlast the competiton.  You'll see as you get older your odds improve at podiums during races. 

With proper training you should continue to improve for many more years. The cross training should help you improve some as well.  You might find a boost in your RR performance.

My goal is to play the game as long as I can and hope I outlive the competition!

In M50 and M55 around here you have to go under 1:10 in sprint tri's to have a chance for the podium - something my fireplug body is just never going to do no matter how much I train.  If I can crack the top ten in M50, then I'm usually having a good day.  I've got about a dozen local guys that I've  got to outlive to get on the podium - probably not very good odds on that happening. 

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2006-08-21 3:08 PM
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The top male triatlete in my state is 41.
2006-08-21 3:11 PM
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I'll give you the answer that you are looking for ........

Yes, if you were an elite level athlete (the top 1%er), then you would be past your peak. The peak for endurance athletes seems to be in their early 30's, and then it's all downhill. Armstrong at 34 was the oldest winner of the Tour as an example.

Reality?? Hell no you aren't past your prime. Even road racing for 10 years you can still improve with proper training and time in the saddle. The biggest problem as you get older is that once you get the speed you have to work that much harder to maintain it.

I'm 35, road raced for years and then took a 5 year hiatus. And also a 13 year hiatus from running. I am nowhere near my old cycling form, but my running is the best it has ever been at longer distances. I still have not beaten my all time 5k PR that I set when I was 20, but I'm not far from doing that right now. And I could never fathom running more than 10 miles when I was younger while now I'm doing that 2 or 3 times a week.

The two most competitive age groups in triathlons are the 35-39 and the 40-44 fields, so that should let you know where the speed is.
2006-08-21 3:14 PM
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If you're concerned about all out speed, which can be effected by aging, try progressing to a full IM.
2006-08-21 4:27 PM
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You're screwed. Hopelessly slow and past your prime. In fact, you should be put down and processed into glue.

Oh, wait, you're my age . . .

You're fine. Your best years are ahead of you. Go get 'em, tiger!



2006-08-21 4:35 PM
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My friends and I call them the treacherous old broads. Age, experience, and endurance beat youth almost every time! Things won't start slowing down for me until I reach 54-59... and even then...  
2006-08-21 4:38 PM
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the bear - 2006-08-20 5:33 PM

50-yo here, did a tri Saturday where I finished 12th overall. Four ahead of me were also over 50 (two over 55). Only two of the male finishers in the top twelve were under forty.

After the overall and masters winners are culled from the field, I was first in my age group. There were eleven age groups for men and I would have won seven of them, finished second in three. The only one I would have finished third in is the age group OLDER than mine.

You're more limited by your attitude than your age.

 Woah... obviously there are some seriously fast 50+ y.o. men in Louisianna!  (What are y'all running from?)  No, in all seriousness - great job, Bear!!!

2006-08-21 7:56 PM
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nope, look at Karen Smyers, she went 4:34:36 at the Timberman 1/2, she is 45 years young.
2006-08-21 8:22 PM
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Cross training can make a difference.  Also, since your new to tri you should only impove in 2 out of the 3 sports.  Good luck!
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