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2008-07-28 10:12 AM

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This weeks topic is Long Course Triathlon. From 70.3 to 140.6. There are a lot of you who will be doing long course over the next week, to few months. From Steelhead, to Louisville, to South Carolina and beyond. Use this thread to discuss whatever topic you want, as it pertains to Long Course.

Some Ideas:
1. Race day tips.
2. Long course nutrition.
3. Surviving in the heat.
4. Mental Strength, as well as moments of weakness you have overcome.
5. Why you prefer LC over short, or vice versa.

Like I said earlier, anything goes here. Discuss it all.. (long course)

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2008-07-28 10:41 AM
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Great topic RT!  I don't have too much to add, but will be interested to read what others have to say.
(This is all based on the HIM distance since I haven't done longer)
Some Ideas:
1. Race day tips.
2. Long course nutrition.
    Practice in training!  And start early in the season so that if you have trouble dialing in what works, you'll have time to nail down you nutrition plan in plenty of time for your race.  Also, talk to people about what works for them.  There are so many nutrition products out there.  Even if you are happy with what you use, there might be something that you like/works/tastes better- I know that first hand! 
    I also tend to zone out on long rides and just let my mind wander.  If you do this too, make sure you keep track of time somewhat on  race day.  I have to pay closer attention so that I make sure to follow my nutrition plan instead of waiting till I'm hungry/thirsty to eat or drink.
3. Surviving in the heat.
    Try to stay hydrated on a daily basis.  I'm personally horrible at this.  But I've tried to drink more water everyday at work so that I'm not starting long training days already dehydrated. 
    Start runs/rides EARLY!  Yuck, I know but it's so much better.  All races usually start before 8am, so starting to train then makes sense.  Also, ty to choose routes that have shade if possible and keep hydrating throughout.  Ride with plenty of water/run with a Fuel Belt/bottle/ choose routes where you can refill at a gas station
4. Mental Strength, as well as moments of weakness you have overcome.
    This is a tough one for everyone at some point I think.  We all have days that we don't feel like our training has been perfect, we're distracted by 'the rest' of our lives, we're tired, etc.  What helps for me is just simple positive reinforcement when negative thought creep in.  There are so many people that won't ever toe the start line simply b/c they don't think they can do it.  Just that fast that we're all out here training and racing is huge accomplishment as it is.  Remind yourself that you've survived all of the hard training days and race day is just a reward for that.  Also, don't ever let yourself think that you're the 'slowest person on the ride/ run/in the race'.  We all started this sport with different backgrounds.  We've all felt like the slowest in the group at one point...
5. Why you prefer LC over short, or vice versa.
    I think LC gives me more of a sense of accomplishment after a race.  It's also a great way to force good time management skills.  LC also allows a little time for mistakes in a race.  In a sprint, if you go out too slow on the bike, it's much harder to make up that time.
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This is a great topic - I'm especially interested in experiences with 70.3 - nutrition and fueling.  I would love to read about what others do to give me a starting point of ideas to try. 
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My goal is an IM in the next three years for my 40th (-ish).  I've completed three sprints with a fourth comming up in September.  I'd like to do at least one Olympic (Chatanooga) next year with two sprints.  The following season, I'd like to complete a half IM.  Then hit the IM in year three.

I have a ton of questions.  What do you do in the off-season?  How much training time?  How do you balance family and work with training?  How much training do you need (weekly time wise) to hit an IM?

2008-07-29 9:12 AM
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abbagej - 2008-07-28 7:39 PM

My goal is an IM in the next three years for my 40th (-ish).  I've completed three sprints with a fourth comming up in September.  I'd like to do at least one Olympic (Chatanooga) next year with two sprints.  The following season, I'd like to complete a half IM.  Then hit the IM in year three.

I have a ton of questions.  What do you do in the off-season?  How much training time?  How do you balance family and work with training?  How much training do you need (weekly time wise) to hit an IM?




As you wrote it above, I see IM as year 4, including this year.

How you laid it out:

4 sprints this year. (year 1)
oly + sprints next year (year 2)
Half IM the following year (year 3)
IM the year after that. (year 4)

Here's my suggestion:
4 sprints this year. (year 1)
1 sprint, 2 or more Olympics next year, and end your season with a HIM. (year 2
Half IM in the beginning of the season, IM at the end.  (year 3)

I took a similar path, and it worked quite well.

IM training requires that you maintain a base, pretty much year round. That doesn't mean hard core specific workouts, but it does mean that you should be able to run 8 to 10 mile long runs, 40 mile bikes, and 2000 yard swims, any given week before the real build begins. You could get by with less, but I wouldn't advise it. Once you get into your serious build months, your are talking anywhere from 10 to 20 hours of working out per week, of which about half, will take place on the weekend.  I peaked at about 17-18 hours for IM Wisconsin.  I have 2 kids and a wife training for her first IM. Absolute proof that it can be balanced effectively even in the most difficult of situations. We have no family in the area, and therefor, no easy way to have someone watch the girls. Anyway, getting it done is up to you. Training for an IM requires some level of selfishness on your part. Anything less can compromise your race. I'm currently watching someone sabatoge his own effort on a weekly basis by making excuse after excuse as to why training can't be completed.
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Great topic!!!

Any advice on how to dial in proper nutrition? Or, is it trial and error?

I know that there are tons of combo's to get the calories in, but do some people use only liquid calories (e.g. carbo-pro, poweraid, etc...)?


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Wow ...Courtney pretty much nailed it when it comes to what I would say.

1. Race dayt tips.
2. Long course nutrition.

Nothing has a more determinant factor on your long course race than nutrition (which I lump hydration in with).  Courtney stated the two key elements: start training with nutrition early so that you can dial it in and try different things. 

Two other tidbits:
A) the rule of thumb of 1-1.5 cal per pound of body weight has seen some success with my training buddies (eat too much and it will slow down the absorption rate and potentially cause some GI issue); and,
B) be sure to drink just plain water ... no product, just plain water.  I previously got caught up in trying to squeeze in too many calories through additional product and felt myself drag down in the second half of the bike.  This lead to some dehydration issues as the product would slow the rate I was able to absorb water.  Dehydration has a sapping affect on your ability to maintain pace.  Add plain water and, viola, more power.

Lastly, you can take in more nutrition (thankfully) during a long course race as the intensity is lower than an Oly and especially a sprint. 

3. Surviving in the heat.

See hydration above ... and be sure to wear a hat to help disapate heat from your head.

4. Mental Strength, as well as moments of weakness you have overcome.

This is why logging your workouts in key; come the day before a race you can look back at the hours and miles spent over the months to get you to the starting line.  I did this the day before Ironman Florida and slept like a baby that night.

5. Why you prefer LC over short, or vice versa.

Short course races just plain hurt too much; heart rate redlining for 2:xx hurts more than 5:xx on a HIM long course. 

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Good topic and nothing to add since my first IM is still 2 months away. 

 

I agree with CM, Ron (esp the IM in year 3; I'm in year 2 and will do an IM this year) and Brian.

 

Question for Brian,

On the 1-1.5 cal/lb, is it the same formula for bike and run?   

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There have been some fantastic responses so far, I am going to "shoot from the hip" so if I cover something that someone else has already said then forgive me.

 

1. Race Day Tips-First and foremost tip is leave nothing to chance on race day. For IM events you will have to drop off your T1 and T2 bags the previous day prior so that will be one less thing to think about. Make sure you have a tinted and clear set of goggles, last year at IMLOU I only had my tinted goggles thinking that we would be swimming east and into the rising sun. What I didn't take into account was the cloud cover that covered the sun and made spotting the buoys nearly impossible. Make sure you get your bike tuned up a few days prior to the race and then go for a short ride to make sure everything is working correctly, this is especially the case when you are using race wheels that you don't normally train on.  Last thing is don't get caught up in the hype, when you boil it all down its swim/bike/run just like you have done before. The distances are just longer and there are more people racing.

2. Long Course Nutrition-This will make you or break you, plain and simple. A well trained athlete can store enough muscle glycogen for 1.5-2hrs of fuel (and by well trained I mean someone who has been consistantly working out over a period of years), since even the Pro's are not finishing until around the 4 hour mark this makes refueling a must. There are a million different theories and protocols on fueling and how to figure your calorie consumption rate etc. The main thing is find a starting point and work from there to identify your personal nutritional needs. If you start at 300 cal/hr and feel bloated or sick then you are probably taking in too much. Back off and see what happens. Likewise if you are lethargic and have no energy then up the calories and see what happens. This is where a good Sports Nutritionist and detailed logs come in handy. I believe it was Brian that said stick to water, I second this wholeheartedly. Gatorade and other sports drinks are a GI problem waiting to happen since they all are made with High Fructose Corn Syrup and derive most of their caloric content from sugar. If you can find a way to get your calories through gels or a product like Carbo Pro and then use an electrolyte suppliment in additon, there isn't any reason to use anything but water for hydration.

3. Surviving the Heat-Well if you have seen my logs the past couple of days you know how I feel about the heat.  The most important thing is to hydrate!! The second most important thing is to slow down, your body cannot thermoregulate as well in the extreme heat which leads to your core temperature rising. The best thing you can do for the heat is to train in it and let your body acclimate as much as possible prior to a hot race. Also make sure to dump ice and cold water on your head as much as possible during the race.

4. Mental Strength-This is what seperates the wheat from the chaff as far as long course racing goes. In every race without fail you will have a point where you want to say "To hell with it" and slow down on the bike or walk the run (if this happens on the swim you could be in for a long day), this is where your training and intrinsic desire to excel have to kick in. If you know your race is going to be in hot, humid conditions then train in hot, humid conditions and remove that from the equation. As a mental toughness exercise I sometimes get to the end of a run and then go run another 1/2 mile just to push a little bit more. This can pay off in a race when you know you just have that last mile or less to go and you really want to stop, or if you are trying to beat a time goal and you have to pick it up to make that time. You also have to know your reasons BEFORE you ever toe the line on race day. Why are you out here? Is it to qualify for something? To accomplish something you didn't think was possible? Because you lost a bar bet? You have to know the answer to those questions before race day because 80 miles into the bike is a bad time to be questioning yourself.

5. I prefer the HIM distance to the others (although the Olympic distance is growing on me) because at the end of the day I feel like I accomplished something without wrecking my body. You can also be fairly competative at the HIM distance on 10-12 hours a week of training, which is good if you want to stay married.

 

My final adivce is if you are a new athlete, don't think you have to jump into Ironman with both feet right from the get go. Those races aren't going anywhere anytime soon. You are much better off taking a few seasons and building up a solid base and then tackling the Iron distance. For HIM the learning curve is a bit shorter, IMO if you can do an Olympic then you can do a HIM.

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Atl runner:

Thanks for the great advice.  I'd been playing with the idea of one more tri this summer (I think I'll do Emerald Point in Oct).  I'm already running and swimming the "base" distance weekly that you suggested.  I just really need to be bike focused to build up beyond my standard 20 mile ride.  I'm working on it.  I'm definitely ready to try a OLY (thinking chattanooga-heard it was newbe friendly).  Is there a last summer half IM that I can shoot for next year in GA?  Any recommendations for half IMs?

I TOTALLY agree with you on the balance part.  My hubby and I also play tennis three times a week (which is GREAT cross training).  Somehow it all works out.  It can just be a little stressful at times!  It may be somewhat selfish to train/excercise as much as we do, but I think I'm a better, happier parent because I do!

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abbagej - 2008-07-29 2:55 PM

Atl runner:

Thanks for the great advice.  I'd been playing with the idea of one more tri this summer (I think I'll do Emerald Point in Oct).  I'm already running and swimming the "base" distance weekly that you suggested.  I just really need to be bike focused to build up beyond my standard 20 mile ride.  I'm working on it.  I'm definitely ready to try a OLY (thinking chattanooga-heard it was newbe friendly).  Is there a last summer half IM that I can shoot for next year in GA?  Any recommendations for half IMs?

I TOTALLY agree with you on the balance part.  My hubby and I also play tennis three times a week (which is GREAT cross training).  Somehow it all works out.  It can just be a little stressful at times!  It may be somewhat selfish to train/excercise as much as we do, but I think I'm a better, happier parent because I do!



You will love the Emerald Pointe Sprint on October 5th. Fun course, and it is fast. 400m Swim, 12 mile bike, 5K run. Go and destroy the course!!

Late HIM's in the area, Augusta 70.3, Beach to Battleship HIM (SC), Beast of the East HIM, etc...


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Rocket Man - 2008-07-29 1:38 PM

There have been some fantastic responses so far, I am going to "shoot from the hip" so if I cover something that someone else has already said then forgive me.

 

1. Race Day Tips-First and foremost tip is leave nothing to chance on race day. For IM events you will have to drop off your T1 and T2 bags the previous day prior so that will be one less thing to think about. Make sure you have a tinted and clear set of goggles, last year at IMLOU I only had my tinted goggles thinking that we would be swimming east and into the rising sun. What I didn't take into account was the cloud cover that covered the sun and made spotting the buoys nearly impossible. Make sure you get your bike tuned up a few days prior to the race and then go for a short ride to make sure everything is working correctly, this is especially the case when you are using race wheels that you don't normally train on.  Last thing is don't get caught up in the hype, when you boil it all down its swim/bike/run just like you have done before. The distances are just longer and there are more people racing.

2. Long Course Nutrition-This will make you or break you, plain and simple. A well trained athlete can store enough muscle glycogen for 1.5-2hrs of fuel (and by well trained I mean someone who has been consistantly working out over a period of years), since even the Pro's are not finishing until around the 4 hour mark this makes refueling a must. There are a million different theories and protocols on fueling and how to figure your calorie consumption rate etc. The main thing is find a starting point and work from there to identify your personal nutritional needs. If you start at 300 cal/hr and feel bloated or sick then you are probably taking in too much. Back off and see what happens. Likewise if you are lethargic and have no energy then up the calories and see what happens. This is where a good Sports Nutritionist and detailed logs come in handy. I believe it was Brian that said stick to water, I second this wholeheartedly. Gatorade and other sports drinks are a GI problem waiting to happen since they all are made with High Fructose Corn Syrup and derive most of their caloric content from sugar. If you can find a way to get your calories through gels or a product like Carbo Pro and then use an electrolyte suppliment in additon, there isn't any reason to use anything but water for hydration.

3. Surviving the Heat-Well if you have seen my logs the past couple of days you know how I feel about the heat.  The most important thing is to hydrate!! The second most important thing is to slow down, your body cannot thermoregulate as well in the extreme heat which leads to your core temperature rising. The best thing you can do for the heat is to train in it and let your body acclimate as much as possible prior to a hot race. Also make sure to dump ice and cold water on your head as much as possible during the race.

4. Mental Strength-This is what seperates the wheat from the chaff as far as long course racing goes. In every race without fail you will have a point where you want to say "To hell with it" and slow down on the bike or walk the run (if this happens on the swim you could be in for a long day), this is where your training and intrinsic desire to excel have to kick in. If you know your race is going to be in hot, humid conditions then train in hot, humid conditions and remove that from the equation. As a mental toughness exercise I sometimes get to the end of a run and then go run another 1/2 mile just to push a little bit more. This can pay off in a race when you know you just have that last mile or less to go and you really want to stop, or if you are trying to beat a time goal and you have to pick it up to make that time. You also have to know your reasons BEFORE you ever toe the line on race day. Why are you out here? Is it to qualify for something? To accomplish something you didn't think was possible? Because you lost a bar bet? You have to know the answer to those questions before race day because 80 miles into the bike is a bad time to be questioning yourself.

5. I prefer the HIM distance to the others (although the Olympic distance is growing on me) because at the end of the day I feel like I accomplished something without wrecking my body. You can also be fairly competative at the HIM distance on 10-12 hours a week of training, which is good if you want to stay married.

 

My final adivce is if you are a new athlete, don't think you have to jump into Ironman with both feet right from the get go. Those races aren't going anywhere anytime soon. You are much better off taking a few seasons and building up a solid base and then tackling the Iron distance. For HIM the learning curve is a bit shorter, IMO if you can do an Olympic then you can do a HIM.



Great post!!
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Brett:

You nailed it ... one thing I would provide a caveat to is adding Carbo Pro to clear water and counting it as 'just plain water'. 

For me CarboPro affected the hydrating absorption rate at IMFL and some other (hot) times.   It might have something to do with the osmology affect of product in the stomach?

Each person is different.

One additional note: I am consistently more thirsty and need more plain water after a salt water swim than a fresh water one.

 

Rocket Man - 2008-07-29 1:38 PM

There have been some fantastic responses so far, I am going to "shoot from the hip" so if I cover something that someone else has already said then forgive me.

 

1. Race Day Tips-First and foremost tip is leave nothing to chance on race day. For IM events you will have to drop off your T1 and T2 bags the previous day prior so that will be one less thing to think about. Make sure you have a tinted and clear set of goggles, last year at IMLOU I only had my tinted goggles thinking that we would be swimming east and into the rising sun. What I didn't take into account was the cloud cover that covered the sun and made spotting the buoys nearly impossible. Make sure you get your bike tuned up a few days prior to the race and then go for a short ride to make sure everything is working correctly, this is especially the case when you are using race wheels that you don't normally train on.  Last thing is don't get caught up in the hype, when you boil it all down its swim/bike/run just like you have done before. The distances are just longer and there are more people racing.

2. Long Course Nutrition-This will make you or break you, plain and simple. A well trained athlete can store enough muscle glycogen for 1.5-2hrs of fuel (and by well trained I mean someone who has been consistantly working out over a period of years), since even the Pro's are not finishing until around the 4 hour mark this makes refueling a must. There are a million different theories and protocols on fueling and how to figure your calorie consumption rate etc. The main thing is find a starting point and work from there to identify your personal nutritional needs. If you start at 300 cal/hr and feel bloated or sick then you are probably taking in too much. Back off and see what happens. Likewise if you are lethargic and have no energy then up the calories and see what happens. This is where a good Sports Nutritionist and detailed logs come in handy. I believe it was Brian that said stick to water, I second this wholeheartedly. Gatorade and other sports drinks are a GI problem waiting to happen since they all are made with High Fructose Corn Syrup and derive most of their caloric content from sugar. If you can find a way to get your calories through gels or a product like Carbo Pro and then use an electrolyte suppliment in additon, there isn't any reason to use anything but water for hydration.

3. Surviving the Heat-Well if you have seen my logs the past couple of days you know how I feel about the heat.  The most important thing is to hydrate!! The second most important thing is to slow down, your body cannot thermoregulate as well in the extreme heat which leads to your core temperature rising. The best thing you can do for the heat is to train in it and let your body acclimate as much as possible prior to a hot race. Also make sure to dump ice and cold water on your head as much as possible during the race.

4. Mental Strength-This is what seperates the wheat from the chaff as far as long course racing goes. In every race without fail you will have a point where you want to say "To hell with it" and slow down on the bike or walk the run (if this happens on the swim you could be in for a long day), this is where your training and intrinsic desire to excel have to kick in. If you know your race is going to be in hot, humid conditions then train in hot, humid conditions and remove that from the equation. As a mental toughness exercise I sometimes get to the end of a run and then go run another 1/2 mile just to push a little bit more. This can pay off in a race when you know you just have that last mile or less to go and you really want to stop, or if you are trying to beat a time goal and you have to pick it up to make that time. You also have to know your reasons BEFORE you ever toe the line on race day. Why are you out here? Is it to qualify for something? To accomplish something you didn't think was possible? Because you lost a bar bet? You have to know the answer to those questions before race day because 80 miles into the bike is a bad time to be questioning yourself.

5. I prefer the HIM distance to the others (although the Olympic distance is growing on me) because at the end of the day I feel like I accomplished something without wrecking my body. You can also be fairly competative at the HIM distance on 10-12 hours a week of training, which is good if you want to stay married.

 

My final adivce is if you are a new athlete, don't think you have to jump into Ironman with both feet right from the get go. Those races aren't going anywhere anytime soon. You are much better off taking a few seasons and building up a solid base and then tackling the Iron distance. For HIM the learning curve is a bit shorter, IMO if you can do an Olympic then you can do a HIM.

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abbagej - 2008-07-29 2:55 PM

Any recommendations for half IMs?



I am doing the South Carolina Half this year at the end of September as my first half.

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kevint - 2008-07-29 3:53 PM
abbagej - 2008-07-29 2:55 PM

Any recommendations for half IMs?

 

I am doing the South Carolina Half this year at the end of September as my first half.

Great race BTW!
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I know I'm a nerd...but I've started to lay out my 2009 race calendar.

Here's what I've got planned so far. 

2009 Race Schedule
  1. 1/10  Disney Half  run 13.1

http://disneyworldsports.disney.go.com/dwws/en_US/marathon/listing?name=MarathonEventListingPage

  1. 3/29  ING Marathon  run 26.2

http://www.inggeorgiamarathon.com/site3.aspx

  1. 4/25 Beach Blast Duathlon (Mexico Beach, FL) run 3.1, bike 24.9, Run 6.2 (While on VACATION)

http://www.thebeachblast.com/index2.html

  1. 5/3  Roswell Mayor’s Ride- Century  bike 100

http://www.roswellgov.com/index.php/m/articles/id/370

  1. 6/28  Iron Girl Sprint Triathlon - 1/3 swim, 18 bike, 5k

http://www.irongirl.com/site3.aspx

  1. 7/12  Chattanooga Waterfront Olympic Triathlon Tri -1.5 swim, 42 bike, 10k run

http://www.bmwofchattanoogawaterfronttriathlon.com/index.cfm

  1. 9/27  Augusta Half Iron man -1.2 swim, 56bike, 13.1 run

http://www.ironmanaugusta.com/

 

Is this enough of a build up for the half?  Any recommendations for bike rides (I don't race on the bike) or swims (are there races out there?)?  Should I try to do another OLY in August?  Any recommendations (gotta to be close by...)?



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abbagej - 2008-07-30 10:25 AM

I know I'm a nerd...but I've started to lay out my 2009 race calendar.


That's not nerdy.  I already have my 09 schedule set and am currently planning out my 2010 schedule.   

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jonathan22 - 2008-07-30 1:52 PM
abbagej - 2008-07-30 10:25 AM

I know I'm a nerd...but I've started to lay out my 2009 race calendar.

That's not nerdy. I already have my 09 schedule set and am currently planning out my 2010 schedule.


He's not kidding!

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jonathan22 - 2008-07-30 1:52 PM
abbagej - 2008-07-30 10:25 AM

I know I'm a nerd...but I've started to lay out my 2009 race calendar.


That's not nerdy.  I already have my 09 schedule set and am currently planning out my 2010 schedule.   

Don't sell yourself short.  That's nerdy.   Do you have it on a spreadsheet that you toy around with at night? 



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No.  But my training plan is on a spread sheet with drop down menus!


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After seizing up on a half century ride yesterday, I don't know how I'll ever get through a HIM, let alone an IM.   What's the longest training ride you should do before a HIM?
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This is my second year of Tris and I am racing in the Beach To Battleship (IM).  I finished the SC HIM last year under 6 Hours, and that gave me the confidence to pursue the IM this year.  I think like many other sports Tris are 75 % mental and 25% physical.  We will see in November.

 My tip:  I quit drinking beer the final 2 months of my training for the SC HIM last year.  I brought with me one beer to the race in a cooler (REWARD IF I FINISHED).   TIP:  BRING A DAMN BOTTLE OPENER or DOMESTIC BEER!

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abbagej - 2008-08-03 9:50 AM After seizing up on a half century ride yesterday, I don't know how I'll ever get through a HIM, let alone an IM.   What's the longest training ride you should do before a HIM?

Your race schedule looks great for a late 70.3. Very similar to my schedule last year. You will do great by the end of next season, just put the work in and you will be rewarded.

I did 2 century rides last season before my 1st half. I think long rides of 60-70 are sufficient, but most importantly make sure you are doing a few 4-6 hour workouts to practice what nutrition works for you. Your marathoning will help with that too.



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Thanks for all the great advice.  You'all rock!
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