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 2009-08-14 11:56 AM |
Resident Curmudgeon  25290    The Road Back Gold member |  Subject: Work on those transitions, folks.Had a friend just now point this out to me: In my race last weekend, I finished first in my AG. The guy behind me in my AG beat me on the swim and run, and on the three main disciplines would have beat me by 1:12. Just hope he doesn't catch on! Edited by the bear 2009-08-14 11:57 AM |
| 2009-08-14 12:03 PM in reply to: #2348744 |
Pro 6011 Camp Hill, Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Work on those transitions, folks. |
| 2009-08-14 12:17 PM in reply to: #2348744 |
Master 1289 Franklin, TN | Subject: RE: Work on those transitions, folks. That is fantastic Bear! I cringe when a guy in front of me beats me by 7 seconds, 10 seconds, 4 seconds. Arrrrrrrgh! It can come down to transition time for sure! Great job! |
| 2009-08-14 12:32 PM in reply to: #2348744 |
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| 2009-08-14 12:37 PM in reply to: #2348744 |
Champion 10471 Dallas, TX | Subject: RE: Work on those transitions, folks. Yes, my SLOW transitions played into me missing 3rd place in my AG by 4 SECONDS.  Reminds me, I need to work on those. |
| 2009-08-14 12:51 PM in reply to: #2348744 |
Elite 3088 Austin, TX Gold member | Subject: RE: Work on those transitions, folks. I've been on this bandwagon for years. Although it hasn't yet mattered for me in an AG spot (M35-39 and M40-44 have some fast dudes in them), I know that the first time I do manage to crack that podium, it's going to be due to outperforming my competitor in transitions. |
| 2009-08-14 12:53 PM in reply to: #2348744 |
Extreme Veteran 597 Fairfax | Subject: RE: Work on those transitions, folks. Ok bear, spill it, what's your secret? Swimming with your helmet on? |
| 2009-08-14 12:57 PM in reply to: #2348952 |
Extreme Veteran 887 Lake Placid, NY | Subject: RE: Work on those transitions, folks. strostertag - 2009-08-14 1:53 PM Ok bear, spill it, what's your secret? Swimming with your helmet on? Biking and running with his wetsuit on. |
| 2009-08-14 1:03 PM in reply to: #2348744 |
Champion 5376 PA | Subject: RE: Work on those transitions, folks. I told you that leaving your pants at home would speed things up. You removed all that "ajustment" time and got to focus on your shoes. |
| 2009-08-14 1:28 PM in reply to: #2348952 |
Resident Curmudgeon 25290 The Road Back Gold member | Subject: RE: Work on those transitions, folks. strostertag - 2009-08-14 12:53 PM Ok bear, spill it, what's your secret? Swimming with your helmet on? No secrets. Hard to hide secrets in transition anyway. The key is simply to simplify. T1 is put down the goggles and cap, strap on the helmet, unrack the bike and go. Shoes, hydration, fuel is preloaded on the bike, there if I need it. T2 is rack the bike, unstrap the helmet and put it on the bars, put on the running shoes, grab the race belt and hat (to be put on while I'm running) and go. Easy peasy. No dishpans or squirt bottles to wash the feet. No buckets to sit on. No socks to play with. No sunglasses for that matter (wind visor on my helmet). No clothing changes. No lipstick (Whizz!). No helium balloons to get in my way. I know some on here are anti-shoes-on-the-bike folks around who will argue that I'm just moving transition time to the bike as you have to struggle to get into your shoes. Well, I've practiced enough that there is no struggle, put my shoes on at 20mph rather than standing (or bucket sitting) in transition. Oh, and had this rsmall ace's 8th fastest bike split (out of 150), so I'm happy. |
| 2009-08-14 1:30 PM in reply to: #2348744 |
Expert 1170 Southern Pines, NC | Subject: RE: Work on those transitions, folks. Yeah, I really need to work on my transitions. It's just free time going to waste. Congrats to you though! |
| 2009-08-14 1:43 PM in reply to: #2348744 |
Veteran 318 Indianapolis | Subject: RE: Work on those transitions, folks. Congrats on your race!! I bought some Yankz laces the other day. I have a sprint coming up next month and will be working on my transitions to get lightning fast. Or at least that's the plan. |
| 2009-08-14 2:24 PM in reply to: #2348744 |
New user 159 | Subject: RE: Work on those transitions, folks. The real key to a fast transition is the one that ironically is rarely mentioned in the transition tips I see here and elsewhere... |
| 2009-08-14 2:27 PM in reply to: #2349262 |
Champion 7233 | Subject: RE: Work on those transitions, folks. totally agree, one of the first races i won this season happened like that. 2nd OA beat m on the swim, same bike time, and beat me on the run. i ended up 32 sec ahead of him through transition time only. |
| 2009-08-14 2:30 PM in reply to: #2348744 |
Expert 908 Niskayuna, New York | Subject: RE: Work on those transitions, folks. My transitions sound very similar to the bear, and have had similar experiences. I always move up a couple spots in overall, and won an AG by 2 seconds by posting super fast transition times. They definitely make a difference! |
| 2009-08-14 2:33 PM in reply to: #2349081 |
Science Nerd 28760 Redwood City, California | Subject: RE: Work on those transitions, folks. the bear - 2009-08-14 2:28 PM strostertag - 2009-08-14 12:53 PM Ok bear, spill it, what's your secret? Swimming with your helmet on? No secrets. Hard to hide secrets in transition anyway. The key is simply to simplify. T1 is put down the goggles and cap, strap on the helmet, unrack the bike and go. Shoes, hydration, fuel is preloaded on the bike, there if I need it. T2 is rack the bike, unstrap the helmet and put it on the bars, put on the running shoes, grab the race belt and hat (to be put on while I'm running) and go. Easy peasy. No dishpans or squirt bottles to wash the feet. No buckets to sit on. No socks to play with. No sunglasses for that matter (wind visor on my helmet). No clothing changes. No lipstick (Whizz!). No helium balloons to get in my way. I know some on here are anti-shoes-on-the-bike folks around who will argue that I'm just moving transition time to the bike as you have to struggle to get into your shoes. Well, I've practiced enough that there is no struggle, put my shoes on at 20mph rather than standing (or bucket sitting) in transition. Oh, and had this rsmall ace's 8th fastest bike split (out of 150), so I'm happy. I did the really simple transition area last week during my sprint. I had some of the fastest transition times for me and the fastest T1 in my division - I did put my bike shoes on in T1, but had them set up so all I had to do was step in and fasten the velcro. Had some problems in T2 (but was still in the top 50%), so I need to work on that a bit more. Edited by Artemis 2009-08-14 2:34 PM |
| 2009-08-14 2:51 PM in reply to: #2348744 |
Champion 5376 PA | Subject: RE: Work on those transitions, folks. Having never actually done a tri, I have to ask a dumb question. If your shoes are already on the bike, do you simply push the bike up to where you are allowed to mount then quickly slip into your shoes while they are on the bike? If so, I guess you just get moving, then reach down to velcro down the straps? |
| 2009-08-14 2:57 PM in reply to: #2349356 |
Extreme Veteran 597 Fairfax | Subject: RE: Work on those transitions, folks. Pector55 - 2009-08-14 2:51 PM Having never actually done a tri, I have to ask a dumb question. If your shoes are already on the bike, do you simply push the bike up to where you are allowed to mount then quickly slip into your shoes while they are on the bike? If so, I guess you just get moving, then reach down to velcro down the straps? BT actually has a good video on the front page for swim-to-bike transitions: http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/cms/article-detail.asp?articleid=1820 |
| 2009-08-14 2:58 PM in reply to: #2348744 |
Extreme Veteran 397 | Subject: RE: Work on those transitions, folks. i did a race a few months ago that had a 250 yard distance from the water to the transition, that counted on your swim time. i was slow on my swim but ran past a bunch of faster swimmers that walked, that and a fast transition to get me to my favorite,cycling, gave me third in my age group. so yeah fast transitions help alot. |
| 2009-08-14 2:59 PM in reply to: #2348880 |
Master 3127 Sunny Southern Cal | Subject: RE: Work on those transitions, folks. ChrisM - 2009-08-14 10:32 AM Excellent! Usually I just want to finish the transitions LOL |
| 2009-08-14 4:35 PM in reply to: #2349383 |
Champion 8540 the colony texas | Subject: RE: Work on those transitions, folks. what no buckets !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! did anyone mention to keep running while in transition, or at least a decent jog... many people walk,, also I roll up my race number/belt and have it just under the top of the tri shorts, .. that way I don't have to worry if my fingers are working that day... |
| 2009-08-14 4:39 PM in reply to: #2349622 |
Resident Curmudgeon 25290 The Road Back Gold member | Subject: RE: Work on those transitions, folks. Gaarryy - 2009-08-14 4:35 PM what no buckets !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! did anyone mention to keep running while in transition, or at least a decent jog... many people walk,, also I roll up my race number/belt and have it just under the top of the tri shorts, .. that way I don't have to worry if my fingers are working that day... Some of us don't have that kind of room inside our tri shorts.  |
| 2009-08-14 5:26 PM in reply to: #2348744 |
Lethbridge, Alberta Bronze member | Subject: RE: Work on those transitions, folks. I've been trying to ignore this angle so far. My excuse was always that I was nowhere near the podium anyway so a minute here or there wasn't that crucial. Well, I messed it up and landed on the podium at a small, local oly tri earlier this year. Now I suppose I either need some new excuses or it's time to pay attention to these threads. Starting with baby steps though, since I've tried to run sockless in my running shoes a few times, and that has always led to blisters and bandaids so far. Many of the tri's I've done have rules against leaving the shoes clipped on the bike too. But, I did get some Yankz laces thrown in as a free bonus once so I should dust those off and try them out. I never did bother with buckets or dishpans but I imagine I could still simplify, streamline, and practice the process a bit. Thanks for the reminder bear.  |
| 2009-08-14 8:58 PM in reply to: #2348744 |
| Master 2460 | Subject: RE: Work on those transitions, folks. Noob question here - is it considered bad form to "sprint' all the way thru the transition? |
| 2009-08-14 9:20 PM in reply to: #2349974 |
Veteran 215 Kalamazoo, MI | Subject: RE: Work on those transitions, folks. agarose2000 - 2009-08-14 9:58 PM Noob question here - is it considered bad form to "sprint' all the way thru the transition? Just my two cents, but the whole thing is a race. If you can sprint past a bunch of people in transition then more power to you. |
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