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 2018-01-13 7:18 AM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master  6834      Englewood, Florida |  Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition OPENOriginally posted by jmkizer Racing Manatees!!! January 13-14 Have fun in Key West Robin. Enjoy the race too. Get better everyone, this is way too long. |
| 2018-01-13 8:53 AM in reply to: cdban66 |
| 108 Jacksonville, Florida | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition OPEN Originally posted by cdban66 Are you recovering from an injury? Saw you mentioned in another post that you've been trying different running shoes so was wondering what you're trying to overcome.Originally posted by kbhanson3 Originally posted by glfprncs I just want to throw out there how much I love recovery weeks. Long run is only 13 miles & no speed work. My legs are grateful. I dream of the day when I'm able to push my runs to 13 miles, much less have it be "only 13 miles!"  Dude, I just want to be able to run again. |
| 2018-01-13 11:15 AM in reply to: jmkizer |
Expert 2811 | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition OPEN Originally posted by jmkizer Racing Manatees!!! January 13-14 Good Luck Racers! |
| 2018-01-13 11:15 AM in reply to: 0 |
Expert 2811 | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition OPEN Originally posted by jmkizer Racing Manatees!!! January 13-14 Good Luck Racers! Forget it. I'm just really excited for the racing Manatees this weekend! Edited by JBacarella 2018-01-13 11:17 AM |
| 2018-01-13 11:15 AM in reply to: 0 |
Expert 2811 | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition OPEN |
| 2018-01-13 11:16 AM in reply to: JBacarella |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition OPEN |
| 2018-01-13 12:59 PM in reply to: kbhanson3 |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition OPEN Originally posted by kbhanson3 Originally posted by cdban66 Are you recovering from an injury? Saw you mentioned in another post that you've been trying different running shoes so was wondering what you're trying to overcome. Originally posted by kbhanson3 Originally posted by glfprncs I just want to throw out there how much I love recovery weeks. Long run is only 13 miles & no speed work. My legs are grateful. I dream of the day when I'm able to push my runs to 13 miles, much less have it be "only 13 miles!" Dude, I just want to be able to run again. Last year was kind of a crud fest from a running standpoint. PF for a while that I tried to work through with the help of Dr Internet. Finally gave up on that and got a cortisone shot. The most painful yet wonderful thing I could have done. After a couple of months prepping for the mtb race that took place this past weekend, I am back to a running focus (of sorts). I will keep on riding a couple of times a week, but mostly looking at running for the foreseeable future. So, now I have added inserts to my running shoes in an attempt at staving off the PF. Finally back to consistent-ish walking this week in an effort to figure out the shoe/insert combo that works best. I ran a complete mile today in under 10 minutes, which is a great sign at this point. All in all, I hope it is coming together and I can keep slowly adding miles as the days and weeks move forward. |
| 2018-01-13 1:59 PM in reply to: cdban66 |
Member 836 North Augusta, South Carolina | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition OPEN Running shoe rotation. Your thoughts? Do you wait until your current pair is about done and then get a new pair? Or do you have 2 (or more) of the same brand/model that you keep in rotation until they hit a certain mileage? Or do you have 2 (or more) of different brands and/or models that you keep in rotation and wear different shoes for different workouts? I've always been of the wear a pair until they hit a certain mileage (usually around 300 miles) and then integrate a new pair into the mix for a few weeks and then retire the old pair. My current pair has around 250 miles (and with the increased mileage I'm doing now, they are taking a toll on my ankles and feet during longer runs (17+ miles), and I have a new pair that have 3 miles, but I'm thinking of getting another pair so that I won't always have a pair on their way to retirement when the new pair comes into play. However, I've been reading a lot on wearing different brands or models of shoes, but that are similar in stack/offset/etc. just to get your stabilizer muscles to work in different ways on occasion. Then I've read where some people have long, slow distance shoes (with much more cusion) and then have different make/model shoes they wear for track workouts and tempo runs. Would love your thoughts. |
| 2018-01-13 2:05 PM in reply to: cdban66 |
| 108 Jacksonville, Florida | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition OPEN Originally posted by cdban66 Glad to hear you're back on track! Hope 2018 treats you better.Originally posted by kbhanson3 Originally posted by cdban66 Are you recovering from an injury? Saw you mentioned in another post that you've been trying different running shoes so was wondering what you're trying to overcome. Originally posted by kbhanson3 Originally posted by glfprncs I just want to throw out there how much I love recovery weeks. Long run is only 13 miles & no speed work. My legs are grateful. I dream of the day when I'm able to push my runs to 13 miles, much less have it be "only 13 miles!" Dude, I just want to be able to run again. Last year was kind of a crud fest from a running standpoint. PF for a while that I tried to work through with the help of Dr Internet. Finally gave up on that and got a cortisone shot. The most painful yet wonderful thing I could have done. After a couple of months prepping for the mtb race that took place this past weekend, I am back to a running focus (of sorts). I will keep on riding a couple of times a week, but mostly looking at running for the foreseeable future. So, now I have added inserts to my running shoes in an attempt at staving off the PF. Finally back to consistent-ish walking this week in an effort to figure out the shoe/insert combo that works best. I ran a complete mile today in under 10 minutes, which is a great sign at this point. All in all, I hope it is coming together and I can keep slowly adding miles as the days and weeks move forward. |
| 2018-01-13 2:22 PM in reply to: glfprncs |
Veteran 1900 Southampton, Ontario | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition OPEN Originally posted by glfprncs Running shoe rotation. Your thoughts? Do you wait until your current pair is about done and then get a new pair? Or do you have 2 (or more) of the same brand/model that you keep in rotation until they hit a certain mileage? Or do you have 2 (or more) of different brands and/or models that you keep in rotation and wear different shoes for different workouts? I've always been of the wear a pair until they hit a certain mileage (usually around 300 miles) and then integrate a new pair into the mix for a few weeks and then retire the old pair. My current pair has around 250 miles (and with the increased mileage I'm doing now, they are taking a toll on my ankles and feet during longer runs (17+ miles), and I have a new pair that have 3 miles, but I'm thinking of getting another pair so that I won't always have a pair on their way to retirement when the new pair comes into play. However, I've been reading a lot on wearing different brands or models of shoes, but that are similar in stack/offset/etc. just to get your stabilizer muscles to work in different ways on occasion. Then I've read where some people have long, slow distance shoes (with much more cusion) and then have different make/model shoes they wear for track workouts and tempo runs. Would love your thoughts. I will usually have a few pairs on the go when I am actually running; trail shoes, "barefoot" style shoes typically for shorter runs and a more conventional pair of road shoes. I rotate them depending on where I am running and replace when they hit around 500km, some go longer some go shorter it depends on how they feel. Some people are super sensitive to shoes and will buy multiple pairs of the same shoe and rotate between a few pairs - I guess its personal preference and finding what works best for you. |
| 2018-01-13 5:07 PM in reply to: DaveL |
Veteran 2441 Western Australia | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition OPEN Originally posted by DaveL Lately I have had 2 pairs of the same shoe (different colours if possible). Mine have been working on the one pair half done and one pair newish kind of rotation. Which means that when one pair is done the second pair is about half done so the timing works out. Heading into Dopey I had one pair about 100k from being finished which I used for the 5k and the half and one pair about half done which I used for the 10k and marathon. It worked really well. Originally posted by glfprncs Running shoe rotation. Your thoughts? Do you wait until your current pair is about done and then get a new pair? Or do you have 2 (or more) of the same brand/model that you keep in rotation until they hit a certain mileage? Or do you have 2 (or more) of different brands and/or models that you keep in rotation and wear different shoes for different workouts? I've always been of the wear a pair until they hit a certain mileage (usually around 300 miles) and then integrate a new pair into the mix for a few weeks and then retire the old pair. My current pair has around 250 miles (and with the increased mileage I'm doing now, they are taking a toll on my ankles and feet during longer runs (17+ miles), and I have a new pair that have 3 miles, but I'm thinking of getting another pair so that I won't always have a pair on their way to retirement when the new pair comes into play. However, I've been reading a lot on wearing different brands or models of shoes, but that are similar in stack/offset/etc. just to get your stabilizer muscles to work in different ways on occasion. Then I've read where some people have long, slow distance shoes (with much more cusion) and then have different make/model shoes they wear for track workouts and tempo runs. Would love your thoughts. I will usually have a few pairs on the go when I am actually running; trail shoes, "barefoot" style shoes typically for shorter runs and a more conventional pair of road shoes. I rotate them depending on where I am running and replace when they hit around 500km, some go longer some go shorter it depends on how they feel. Some people are super sensitive to shoes and will buy multiple pairs of the same shoe and rotate between a few pairs - I guess its personal preference and finding what works best for you. However saying all of that I have just got a pair of trail shoes (not worn yet) so I think that rotation might change as I do more trail running this year, maybe I will end up with 2 pairs of trail shoes and one of road shoes or maybe just one pair of each, we will see. |
| 2018-01-13 5:12 PM in reply to: 0 |
Veteran 2441 Western Australia | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition OPEN Originally posted by jmkizer I hope that you have a great run Robin, and vacation, and cruise and that your hand surgery goes well and you recover quickly. Racing Manatees!!! January 13-14 Get better everyone else, the sick list is way too long (but understandable given your weather). Edited by StaceyK 2018-01-13 5:13 PM |
| 2018-01-13 6:08 PM in reply to: glfprncs |
Expert 2811 | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition OPEN Originally posted by glfprncs Running shoe rotation. Your thoughts? Do you wait until your current pair is about done and then get a new pair? Or do you have 2 (or more) of the same brand/model that you keep in rotation until they hit a certain mileage? Or do you have 2 (or more) of different brands and/or models that you keep in rotation and wear different shoes for different workouts? I've always been of the wear a pair until they hit a certain mileage (usually around 300 miles) and then integrate a new pair into the mix for a few weeks and then retire the old pair. My current pair has around 250 miles (and with the increased mileage I'm doing now, they are taking a toll on my ankles and feet during longer runs (17+ miles), and I have a new pair that have 3 miles, but I'm thinking of getting another pair so that I won't always have a pair on their way to retirement when the new pair comes into play. However, I've been reading a lot on wearing different brands or models of shoes, but that are similar in stack/offset/etc. just to get your stabilizer muscles to work in different ways on occasion. Then I've read where some people have long, slow distance shoes (with much more cusion) and then have different make/model shoes they wear for track workouts and tempo runs. Would love your thoughts. I track mileage, but I run one pair until my knees hurt, then switch to a new pair. I usually get 450-600 miles from Zoot running shoes. I've gotten 400 out of Nike. UA shoes and New Balance are Junk (my opinion), I've never had either last more than 100 miles. I had a pair of UA shoes literally fall to pieces. |
| 2018-01-13 6:22 PM in reply to: glfprncs |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition OPEN Originally posted by glfprncs Running shoe rotation. Your thoughts? Do you wait until your current pair is about done and then get a new pair? Or do you have 2 (or more) of the same brand/model that you keep in rotation until they hit a certain mileage? Or do you have 2 (or more) of different brands and/or models that you keep in rotation and wear different shoes for different workouts? I've always been of the wear a pair until they hit a certain mileage (usually around 300 miles) and then integrate a new pair into the mix for a few weeks and then retire the old pair. My current pair has around 250 miles (and with the increased mileage I'm doing now, they are taking a toll on my ankles and feet during longer runs (17+ miles), and I have a new pair that have 3 miles, but I'm thinking of getting another pair so that I won't always have a pair on their way to retirement when the new pair comes into play. However, I've been reading a lot on wearing different brands or models of shoes, but that are similar in stack/offset/etc. just to get your stabilizer muscles to work in different ways on occasion. Then I've read where some people have long, slow distance shoes (with much more cusion) and then have different make/model shoes they wear for track workouts and tempo runs. Would love your thoughts. I don’t know that my way will be any help as I really have no particular way! I have done the rotate shows with 1 pair for shorter runs, the other longer. The shorter run shoe usually has a slightly lower drop and is A different brand . And I have done the 1 shoe for everything, no rotatation even with the same type of shoe. I don’t pay any attention to my miles on the shoe, just usually either one day notice they are worn too much or start getting aches I shouldn’t have. I don’t necessarily recommend this way, especially since I suspect it is the cause of my recent -thankfully short lived, case of plantar fasciitis! I think my favorite way is the different shoe for the distances, but I have to be careful as I am prone to Achilles issues, so have to work into the lower drop. |
| 2018-01-13 6:25 PM in reply to: glfprncs |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition OPEN Originally posted by glfprncs Running shoe rotation. Your thoughts? Do you wait until your current pair is about done and then get a new pair? Or do you have 2 (or more) of the same brand/model that you keep in rotation until they hit a certain mileage? Or do you have 2 (or more) of different brands and/or models that you keep in rotation and wear different shoes for different workouts? I've always been of the wear a pair until they hit a certain mileage (usually around 300 miles) and then integrate a new pair into the mix for a few weeks and then retire the old pair. My current pair has around 250 miles (and with the increased mileage I'm doing now, they are taking a toll on my ankles and feet during longer runs (17+ miles), and I have a new pair that have 3 miles, but I'm thinking of getting another pair so that I won't always have a pair on their way to retirement when the new pair comes into play. However, I've been reading a lot on wearing different brands or models of shoes, but that are similar in stack/offset/etc. just to get your stabilizer muscles to work in different ways on occasion. Then I've read where some people have long, slow distance shoes (with much more cusion) and then have different make/model shoes they wear for track workouts and tempo runs. Would love your thoughts. When I am running more often, I try to keep 2 pairs in a rotation. And a trail pair. So I generally have 3 pairs at any time. I try to rotate shoes just to let a pair air out while the other pair is in use. Probably not necessary, given the 23+ hours between runs. But I usually have a pair that is older and a pair that is newer, about 150 - 200 miles between pairs. I get about 350 out of a pair if lucky. |
| 2018-01-13 6:47 PM in reply to: cdban66 |
Expert 1694 Illinois | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition OPEN Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by kbhanson3 Originally posted by cdban66 Are you recovering from an injury? Saw you mentioned in another post that you've been trying different running shoes so was wondering what you're trying to overcome. Originally posted by kbhanson3 Originally posted by glfprncs I just want to throw out there how much I love recovery weeks. Long run is only 13 miles & no speed work. My legs are grateful. I dream of the day when I'm able to push my runs to 13 miles, much less have it be "only 13 miles!" Dude, I just want to be able to run again. Last year was kind of a crud fest from a running standpoint. PF for a while that I tried to work through with the help of Dr Internet. Finally gave up on that and got a cortisone shot. The most painful yet wonderful thing I could have done. After a couple of months prepping for the mtb race that took place this past weekend, I am back to a running focus (of sorts). I will keep on riding a couple of times a week, but mostly looking at running for the foreseeable future. So, now I have added inserts to my running shoes in an attempt at staving off the PF. Finally back to consistent-ish walking this week in an effort to figure out the shoe/insert combo that works best. I ran a complete mile today in under 10 minutes, which is a great sign at this point. All in all, I hope it is coming together and I can keep slowly adding miles as the days and weeks move forward. Oh those cortisone shots are painful.  That's awesome that you were able to run a complete mile! |
| 2018-01-13 6:52 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
Expert 1694 Illinois | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition OPEN Originally posted by jmkizer Racing Manatees!!! January 13-14 Good luck tomorrow, Robin! This is a pretty long list for so early in the year. I'm doing some PT for my shoulder (AC sprain as a result of a mtb icy fall) and hope to be recovered in a few weeks. Hope everyone heals up quickly. |
| 2018-01-14 8:01 AM in reply to: 0 |
Member 836 North Augusta, South Carolina | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition Now CLOSED Since I have two recovery days IN A ROW, I have lots of time to ask questions about a variety of things. I'm adding Garmin Vector 3 power meter pedals to my Felt bike as well as a Garmin Edge bike computer. My dilemma is that I also ride with an aerobottle between my bars, so finding a place to mount the Edge has me a bit mystified. Any ideas? And sorry that the picture is sideways! It's not that way on my phone. Edited by glfprncs 2018-01-14 8:02 AM (Frieda cockpit.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Frieda cockpit.jpg (1121KB - 3 downloads) |
| 2018-01-14 8:08 AM in reply to: glfprncs |
Member 836 North Augusta, South Carolina | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition Now CLOSED Hoping this pic is in the right direction. (frieda cockpit 2.jpg) Attachments ---------------- frieda cockpit 2.jpg (103KB - 3 downloads) |
| 2018-01-14 9:37 AM in reply to: glfprncs |
| 108 Jacksonville, Florida | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition Now CLOSED Originally posted by glfprncs Which Edge model? There's a significant size variation among the models.Since I have two recovery days IN A ROW, I have lots of time to ask questions about a variety of things. I'm adding Garmin Vector 3 power meter pedals to my Felt bike as well as a Garmin Edge bike computer. My dilemma is that I also ride with an aerobottle between my bars, so finding a place to mount the Edge has me a bit mystified. Any ideas? And sorry that the picture is sideways! It's not that way on my phone. |
| 2018-01-14 10:26 AM in reply to: #5232372 |
Member 836 North Augusta, South Carolina | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition Now CLOSED Edge 520. |
| 2018-01-14 11:46 AM in reply to: kbhanson3 |
Member 836 North Augusta, South Carolina | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition Now CLOSED Originally posted by kbhanson3 Originally posted by glfprncs Which Edge model? There's a significant size variation among the models. Since I have two recovery days IN A ROW, I have lots of time to ask questions about a variety of things. I'm adding Garmin Vector 3 power meter pedals to my Felt bike as well as a Garmin Edge bike computer. My dilemma is that I also ride with an aerobottle between my bars, so finding a place to mount the Edge has me a bit mystified. Any ideas? And sorry that the picture is sideways! It's not that way on my phone. I think what I may have to do is forego the aero bottle for a regular bottle. Slide my water bottle mount backwards so that the bottle sits over my stem, and then put the bike computer foreward of that between the aerobars. I could theoretically put the bike computer behind the aerobottle over the stem, but looking at it, particularly while in aero would be impossible which sort of defeats the purpose. |
| 2018-01-14 2:48 PM in reply to: glfprncs |
Member 285 Cypress, Texas | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition Now CLOSED |
| 2018-01-14 5:46 PM in reply to: glfprncs |
Master 8249 Eugene, Oregon Bronze member | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition Now CLOSED I think there is a mount where the Garmin actually goes ON the aerobottle?! Have seen it at the bike store here. |
| 2018-01-14 6:41 PM in reply to: Hot Runner |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition Now CLOSED Originally posted by Hot Runner I think there is a mount where the Garmin actually goes ON the aerobottle?! Have seen it at the bike store here. https://www.xlab-usa.com/aero-computer-mount.html might do the trick. |
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