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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by juniperjen Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by jmkizer I'm sorry I can't offer any advice on those. I've always liked having a coach. And the one I use now is SUPER reasonable ($) but he only does 2 weeks at a time (I know you like longer schedules). I like the shorter range workouts because seeing too much stresses me out (the opposite of you) LOL Maybe finding a coach/group that matches your current goals (more gravel focused less tri focused) and stage in your career would be a good place to look. Online groups are so hard - people come and go and like you said the dynamics change. Originally posted by melbo55 Originally posted by jmkizer I’m having my semi-annual "do I want to stay with Endurance Nation" talk with myself. I guess if I do this every so often the answer is probably no. The training plans are OK but I don’t feel like I’m getting a lot of guidance. When I ask questions about masters athletes the response was something like "it's important to do strength training twice a week." When I ask about recovery/adaption weeks, the response was, maybe take a day off every 10 days. I also feel like I’m not "epic” enough or else I don’t have a big enough ego to garner mush support/attention. You know, the typical, "I probably shouldn't have done xyz but I did, aren't I awesome?!" When this happens, I think to myself, this is a training site/group with actual plans. Why are you celebrating someone who did not follow the plans? Anyway, last time I had the conversation with myself, it was like, hang in there, you like the OutSeason plan. Do that one and then... This is where I need some help from the Manatees: What do we think of 80/20 Endurance? They have both cycling and running plans so that is good. I’m not sure what I think of their power zones, though. Also they don’t do sweet spot at all I think think that’s been beneficial. Of course that doesn't mean that another type of plan wouldn't work well for me. And did I mention that they have both cycling and running... I also like the fact that you can use a plan more than once. What about FasCat? They only do cycling plans but their zones make sense and the plans look familiar so it would be an easy transition. Both 80/20 and FasCat seem to have good support for their plans. What else am I missing? What are you looking for most? Just a reliable, sensible training plan to work on your own with no coaching/feedback? Do you want a coach/group to give feedback? And do you want feedback on just the occasional workout or some guidance on most or all? You mentioned forums and asking other members questions, so I get the impression you'd prefer some sort of human interaction. Is a dedicated coach a consideration, as someone to work on with you and give workouts/recommendations based on where you are and where you want to achieve? Sensible plan. I have found that I like having a longer range plan on the calendar. It's a lot easier to plan other aspects of my life and that reduces stress. Week-to-week plans are more responsive and I get that but it can be stressful for me in other ways. I'm sure that whatever way I go, I will have some initial questions as I adjust and there is always the "what plan should I load next" question. When I first joined Endurance Nation, there was a lot of interaction and that has not been the case recently. I'm sure that part if it is me and my drift away from triathlon but I do think that the group dynamic has changed as well My humble recommendation would be to go with whichever plan ticks the most boxes of both acceptable workout plans and the interaction which seems to be valuable, too. Probably I wasn't much help, LOL! ![]() Thanks for chiming in. The discussion is helping me continue to work through the options. I'm open to other suggestions as well. (edit, fixed formatting woes) Thanks for the feedback. I know that you have been with your coach for a while so you must really like him. I would still be with Maija if she hadn't stopped coaching :-/ I still miss her. Right now, having a longer view of my training really helps. Kevin likes to say things like "if the long range forecast can be believed, let's go to the mountains." I can then look at the calendar and see, 4-hour ride, yes, can do that, etc. It helps with negotiations. I get that with a coach you could just say, we might be out of town that weekend but I also don't want to "cry wolf" too many times. I've also received some feedback from Anne, who gives a thumbs up to the FasCat plan, and Jen who likes the look of the 80/20 plans. Mostly, that the 80/20 plans are basically free right now it appears so it's low financial risk to give it a try. Also a good PSA for anyone else who is interested (and i think these plans are available on Garmin) Wow, interesting that they are free. That's a deal that's hard to beat, but wonder if they are struggling to get subscribers. Whatever the reason, it seems like a no-brainer to see if you like them. Unless things changed from my time with them, yes to the Garmin thing. ETA: NM, I see it is a 30 day check us out special, that makes way more sense than what I first thought Edited by amd723 2022-02-23 8:26 AM |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by jmkizer Thanks for the feedback. I know that you have been with your coach for a while so you must really like him. I would still be with Maija if she hadn't stopped coaching :-/ I still miss her. Right now, having a longer view of my training really helps. Kevin likes to say things like "if the long range forecast can be believed, let's go to the mountains." I can then look at the calendar and see, 4-hour ride, yes, can do that, etc. It helps with negotiations. I get that with a coach you could just say, we might be out of town that weekend but I also don't want to "cry wolf" too many times. I've also received some feedback from Anne, who gives a thumbs up to the FasCat plan, and Jen who likes the look of the 80/20 plans. I'm actually back with the coach I used in 2014. The coach I used from 2015-2020 and I have parted ways. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by jmkizer I'm actually back with the coach I used in 2014. The coach I used from 2015-2020 and I have parted ways. Thanks for the feedback. I know that you have been with your coach for a while so you must really like him. I would still be with Maija if she hadn't stopped coaching :-/ I still miss her. Right now, having a longer view of my training really helps. Kevin likes to say things like "if the long range forecast can be believed, let's go to the mountains." I can then look at the calendar and see, 4-hour ride, yes, can do that, etc. It helps with negotiations. I get that with a coach you could just say, we might be out of town that weekend but I also don't want to "cry wolf" too many times. I've also received some feedback from Anne, who gives a thumbs up to the FasCat plan, and Jen who likes the look of the 80/20 plans. Mike Plumb? I've heard good things about him. |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by jmkizer I'm actually back with the coach I used in 2014. The coach I used from 2015-2020 and I have parted ways. Thanks for the feedback. I know that you have been with your coach for a while so you must really like him. I would still be with Maija if she hadn't stopped coaching :-/ I still miss her. Right now, having a longer view of my training really helps. Kevin likes to say things like "if the long range forecast can be believed, let's go to the mountains." I can then look at the calendar and see, 4-hour ride, yes, can do that, etc. It helps with negotiations. I get that with a coach you could just say, we might be out of town that weekend but I also don't want to "cry wolf" too many times. I've also received some feedback from Anne, who gives a thumbs up to the FasCat plan, and Jen who likes the look of the 80/20 plans. Mike Plumb? I've heard good things about him. that's the guy! |
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![]() | ![]() Originally posted by alaskatri Headed to Kona!!!! No, not for IM. Haha. Headed there this weekend for a much needed vacation. Our first time to Hawaii. Hoping to find some IM merchandise or at least check out the local tri/bike shops. I'm also secretly hoping my wife loves the place and maybe we can make Lavaman an annual event. Several from AK head to that race every year. We also have a couple rounds of golf scheduled, night snorkeling with manta rays, deep sea fishing, and coffee farm tour, before heading over to the volcanoes. Hoping to avoid gout, but plan on eating a ton of poke while there as well. That sounds like excellent plans during your much needed vacation/change of scenery/change of pace. Enjoy! Live it up! Eat all the poke but avoid The Gout! ![]() Edited by melbo55 2022-02-24 9:40 AM |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by alaskatri Headed to Kona!!!! No, not for IM. Haha. Headed there this weekend for a much needed vacation. Our first time to Hawaii. Hoping to find some IM merchandise or at least check out the local tri/bike shops. I'm also secretly hoping my wife loves the place and maybe we can make Lavaman an annual event. Several from AK head to that race every year. We also have a couple rounds of golf scheduled, night snorkeling with manta rays, deep sea fishing, and coffee farm tour, before heading over to the volcanoes. Hoping to avoid gout, but plan on eating a ton of poke while there as well. The only place I've seen Ironman merch is at Sunset Trader's on Ali'i Drive. Google OWS in Kona to see if the local tri clubs still do a swim on the swim course on Saturday mornings. Drive up the Ironman bike course to Hawi and stop at Kohala Coffee Mill for ice cream and baked goods. While up that way, hike the Pololu Trail. This is probably my favorite place on earth. After the hike, stop at Kohala Coffee Mill again, haha! I love the Big Island! |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by fortissimo Originally posted by alaskatri Headed to Kona!!!! No, not for IM. Haha. Headed there this weekend for a much needed vacation. Our first time to Hawaii. Hoping to find some IM merchandise or at least check out the local tri/bike shops. I'm also secretly hoping my wife loves the place and maybe we can make Lavaman an annual event. Several from AK head to that race every year. We also have a couple rounds of golf scheduled, night snorkeling with manta rays, deep sea fishing, and coffee farm tour, before heading over to the volcanoes. Hoping to avoid gout, but plan on eating a ton of poke while there as well. The only place I've seen Ironman merch is at Sunset Trader's on Ali'i Drive. Google OWS in Kona to see if the local tri clubs still do a swim on the swim course on Saturday mornings. Drive up the Ironman bike course to Hawi and stop at Kohala Coffee Mill for ice cream and baked goods. While up that way, hike the Pololu Trail. This is probably my favorite place on earth. After the hike, stop at Kohala Coffee Mill again, haha! I love the Big Island! We won't be in Kona on a Saturday, but I did see that some groups go out other days too. We get into Kona Saturday night, and then leave for the Hilo side of things next Friday. Very excited to get there. Thanks for the tips. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Racing Manatees!!! |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by jmkizer Racing Manatees!!! Tour de Sufferlandria started this week. I did stage 1 today. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by JBacarella Originally posted by jmkizer Tour de Sufferlandria started this week. I did stage 1 today. Racing Manatees!!! Nice! |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by amd723 Go you. Originally posted by JBacarella Originally posted by jmkizer Tour de Sufferlandria started this week. I did stage 1 today. Racing Manatees!!! Nice! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by ceilidh Originally posted by amd723 Go you. Originally posted by JBacarella Originally posted by jmkizer Tour de Sufferlandria started this week. I did stage 1 today. Racing Manatees!!! Nice! x100 How is it this year? If nothing else, the timing should be wonderful for you -- a nice bump in bike fitness before Texas and yet far enough away that you won't be toast from it. How nice of them! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Just saw that for March Garmin has a badge challenge where if you get 400k steps you can get a free Starbucks beverage! In the US and Canada. Signed up for that one. :D
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by juniperjen Just saw that for March Garmin has a badge challenge where if you get 400k steps you can get a free Starbucks beverage! In the US and Canada. Signed up for that one. :D Oh! I need to check that out! Found it! |
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![]() | ![]() Originally posted by jmkizer Racing Manatees!!! I'm quite late replying to this but I had the last regular season game for my hockey league on Saturday. Sadly after the epic drive to northern NJ (3 hours and some change one way) we lost with 7.5 seconds left. Ugh! Oh well. Then of course another epic drive home. Late. Two very close calls but thankfully no contact. People drive like unthinking maniacs. Playoffs are March 19, 20. |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by juniperjen Just saw that for March Garmin has a badge challenge where if you get 400k steps you can get a free Starbucks beverage! In the US and Canada. Signed up for that one. :D Oh! I need to check that out! Found it! google says that's roughly 140 miles....... I have ZERO chance LOL |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by jmkizer google says that's roughly 140 miles....... I have ZERO chance LOL Originally posted by juniperjen Just saw that for March Garmin has a badge challenge where if you get 400k steps you can get a free Starbucks beverage! In the US and Canada. Signed up for that one. :D Oh! I need to check that out! Found it! 13,000 steps a day, right? |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by melbo55 Really glad you had no contact! That is a loooong way to go for a game!Originally posted by jmkizer Racing Manatees!!! I'm quite late replying to this but I had the last regular season game for my hockey league on Saturday. Sadly after the epic drive to northern NJ (3 hours and some change one way) we lost with 7.5 seconds left. Ugh! Oh well. Then of course another epic drive home. Late. Two very close calls but thankfully no contact. People drive like unthinking maniacs. Playoffs are March 19, 20. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Me either. Especially considering my average step count since surgery is about 6000.Originally posted by jmkizer google says that's roughly 140 miles....... I have ZERO chance LOLOriginally posted by juniperjen Just saw that for March Garmin has a badge challenge where if you get 400k steps you can get a free Starbucks beverage! In the US and Canada. Signed up for that one. :D Oh! I need to check that out! Found it! |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I signed up for two "remote" tris. One sprint, one olympic. Just to see if I can still race at all. Okay, not really race, but participate before the cutoff. ![]() |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by jmkizer google says that's roughly 140 miles....... I have ZERO chance LOL Originally posted by juniperjen Just saw that for March Garmin has a badge challenge where if you get 400k steps you can get a free Starbucks beverage! In the US and Canada. Signed up for that one. :D Oh! I need to check that out! Found it! 13,000 steps a day, right? Yep, a little under 13,000 steps. I was going to boycott Starbucks because they raised the price on my Trenta black iced tea to $4.69. But, if I can get the 13,000 steps a day I'll at least get a free tea! And can I say, they are watering down the iced tea so much it has no taste? |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by fortissimo Originally posted by jmkizer Yep, a little under 13,000 steps. I was going to boycott Starbucks because they raised the price on my Trenta black iced tea to $4.69. But, if I can get the 13,000 steps a day I'll at least get a free tea! And can I say, they are watering down the iced tea so much it has no taste? Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by jmkizer google says that's roughly 140 miles....... I have ZERO chance LOL Originally posted by juniperjen Just saw that for March Garmin has a badge challenge where if you get 400k steps you can get a free Starbucks beverage! In the US and Canada. Signed up for that one. :D Oh! I need to check that out! Found it! 13,000 steps a day, right? Take that, Starbucks! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Yanti in the news! Iron Man competitor Arsiyanti Ardie says swimming in Busselton is vital to her health recovery For any newer Manatees, Yanti is our matriarch. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by jmkizer Yanti in the news! Iron Man competitor Arsiyanti Ardie says swimming in Busselton is vital to her health recovery For any newer Manatees, Yanti is our matriarch. Very cool! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by ceilidh I signed up for two "remote" tris. One sprint, one olympic. Just to see if I can still race at all. Okay, not really race, but participate before the cutoff. ![]() This is a great idea! Dooo Eeeetttt!!!!! |
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