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Hi all.  I ended up taking yesterday as a rest day - unintentionally.  My left foot was a little tender on the top yesterday after the long slow run i did with my sister and i woke up and that side was fine yesterday but i developed a super tender area on my right leg that's now pretty much my whole soleus area.  It better not be any achilles issues.

Any tips for my recovery or thoughts on what it might be?

Luckily it's a recovery week and i do have a rest day scheduled so i can move any missed workouts to Friday - which looks like just a bike with short T run will need to move.  Tonight, i'll swim since yesterday's was cancelled.

Though, I did pick up compression socks yesterday and a giant tub of Ironman Perform.  I am hoping the socks will help with recovery from weekend efforts. 

i finally found a Tri talk thread that i think is relevant.

How much faster do you expect to go on race day??  than a training session??

Never tried it to that degree.  Biggest training day has been long bike, 90 miles I believe and a brick run of about 7 miles.  Which I guess for me would be about the same as your example absent the swim. 

Fred, i think i read about this on the Iron Distance forum and was there some rest in between each leg?

I think the 'big day' would be an excellent way to test nutrition over longer distances as well as pacing efforts.  One of the toughest things to do is the swim to bike brike and it's hard to estimate how the fatigue on the swim will impact the start of the bike. 

I probably won't do that mostly because of logisitics.  I am however looking for a HIM race as a tune-up.  A few options.  any thoughts on how far out from IM that should be?  I am looking at two options on the weekend of June 24th and one July 8th. 

Sorry!  I’ve been quietly training and still owe the group a bio.  I got missed on the list made TSimone.  At first I thought I got fired from the group.
 
I weighed in yesterday at 173 lbs.  Training is back to normal as can be.  Still lots of work stress.
 
 
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Wow...never heard of "the big day" before.  Sounds brutal.  I think WTC needs to come out with the TQIM 105.45 (Three Quarter IM)...LOL.

Actually though...I kind of like the idea of a 1.8 mile swim, 84 mile bike, 20 mile run.  If they ever came out with it...or a local race became available like this...I would definately consider doing it...probably more so than the full distance.

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Swim - I'm a bit slower in open water than the pool, plus I hold back a little since it's my weakest area and I don't want to blow up.
Bike - Sprint distance, definitely faster.  HIM, about the same as I tried to keep the training internsity close to race day intensity for the distance.
Run - much faster (when I'm not walking)  This is where I'm strongest and will typically run about :45-1:00min/km during a Sprint distance.

Bummer...but I can see how most people wouldn't appeal to it.

AWESOME NEWS JAMES!!!!

There is a race in Nova Scotia that might appeal to you.  Full swim, full bike, but you can do a half run.  I know the area well, it is an awesome place for a course (use to live there)

Great news James!

Re: the big workout day: I think it's more of a confidence booster than an actually physically beneficial workout. Though, we know that long course racing is a very mental endeavor... so, if you need it mentally, do it. If you don't, you can probably make better use of a workout that is going to be that costly on the recovery end.

Re: speeds in training vs workouts: I'm usually in the same ballpark on the swim (my swim pace is ~1:35/100m in practice. My logs reflect 2:00/100m simply because that's my rest intervals included in my total swim time). Biking - faster in a sprint, but not really in any other distance. Running - much faster on race day. I'm very driven by my adrenaline in that event. I'm interested to see how my training changes - my best friend here who is also a triathlete trains significantly faster than me, but races slower.

I feel like I'm finally set up with a group to train with (Tucson Tri Girls) that have many members faster than me. I've been wanting this for a while - and I can finally fit group workouts into my schedule! And with that, I'm off to track practice.

Always great to find a group to train with, especially when they're slightly faster than you.

Speaking of which, I'm off for a group ride...which basically turns into a race.

Boy I guess they will let just anybody into this group....

Seriously James, really glad to find out you are in - and I am way out of the loop, I did not know you were going through such a scare with your daughter. Really great news - and I am sure you are beyond relieved. My wife's family has some history of pancreatic cancer - it is nasty stuff indeed. I look forward to catching up to see how your training is coming along.