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2016-01-06 9:51 AM
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Originally posted by Richardsdrr Matt, the Sufferland tour details are on their site already....

I've always wanted to try the Tour of Sufferlandria... but I'm askurred!  

You can hear this coming a mile off........DO EEEEEETTTTTT!!!!!!!!!@

It sucks, but my spring fitness has been insane after recovering from it.



2016-01-06 10:08 AM
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OK, TinyPic is working correctly today.  Here are my bestest little buddies, Dobie and Coco.

I noticed the Dirty Bike is absent from the bike gallery, I'll need to find a pic of it.



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Originally posted by Richardsdrr Matt, the Sufferland tour details are on their site already....

I've always wanted to try the Tour of Sufferlandria... but I'm askurred!  

Ditto

2016-01-06 10:17 AM
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OK, TinyPic is working correctly today.  Here are my bestest little buddies, Dobie and Coco.

I noticed the Dirty Bike is absent from the bike gallery, I'll need to find a pic of it.

Awwwwwww!  Look at those faces!  

2016-01-06 10:25 AM
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OK, TinyPic is working correctly today.  Here are my bestest little buddies, Dobie and Coco.

I noticed the Dirty Bike is absent from the bike gallery, I'll need to find a pic of it.

Cuties!

2016-01-06 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by JBacarella
Originally posted by tomsimper I had read that core strength helps stopping injury and as I am more wobbly than solid I presumed it would help. I have the time to fit it in as been doing some but wanted to make sure I was doing the right type of exercise instead of just wasting my time thinking as was on the right track. I have no medical issues at present other than a sore calf muscling but that's my own fault for not warming up properly when I went running the other day.
Core training will help you in all three disciplines and it will help prevent you from becoming fatigued. It will give you better run posture and make you faster. This is just if you have time to work one area. If you have the time to work in 3, 30 minute overall strength training days it will be helpful. This is especially important to those of us who are pushing 50 to fight muscle atrophy that come s with age.

I'm a stickler for details. I'm probably going into too much detail and really doesn't matter for (or to!) most people, but that's just to say it's not you ... it really is me and my OCD about always finding devils to go with their tails ... uh ... in the details.

I'm actually a proponent of strength training for everybody, including most triathletes. The benefits are many and you really have to put so little in ... even 10min 2x/week is good. Core training (some types demonstrably more, some less demonstrably less, that's why Tom's asking) will help in all three disciplines, although in different ways for each. They can indeed help delay some muscular fatigue, but not more so than strength training within the disciplines (eg., hard swim intervals, or hills). Some types of core and strength may help you hold good swim technique for longer, swimming being where body position is really important.

But not everyone *needs* to do it.

What prevents (training-related) injury is proper training. Training related injuries nearly always result from too much and/or too hard too quickly.

So let's bring this back to Tom, who's pushing 40 and just quit smoking. Smoking interferes with bone density and that effect is going to last awhile, so he should definitely do some weight-bearing (body weight is fine) work. Running will help with that too, but running has to be built up through frequency and not quickly. Age alone suggests it's a good time for him to start incorporating strength training.

Squats, Bulgarian squats with good technique (nothing explosive, no jumping--in swimming that's what pushing off the wall and good streamlining is for! it's like doing a safe jumping squat against resistance and streamlining is great for core). Planks are great for core; so are the yoga/Pilates triangle and reverse triangle (which have a weight-bearing component). The yoga routines in the BT videos are great.

I'm a huge fan of swim cords for core and strength (and they do translate very well to actual swimming). Ask me more if you like!

And now, ask me when the last time I did core or strength was ... and I'm female, fat, pushing 40, and have arthritis to the tune where it sometimes interferes with daily activities, not to mention training!

Sigh. Can't fix stupid ...

 




Thank you all for the responses and I will start doing them properly now as after some research on what you guys have said, my ideas of were slight outdated. It is slightly depressing to read I am pushing 40 as in my own head I am still 21 just a little slower and fatter!


2016-01-06 10:58 AM
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Originally posted by tomsimper

Originally posted by IndoIronYanti

Originally posted by JBacarella
Originally posted by tomsimper I had read that core strength helps stopping injury and as I am more wobbly than solid I presumed it would help. I have the time to fit it in as been doing some but wanted to make sure I was doing the right type of exercise instead of just wasting my time thinking as was on the right track. I have no medical issues at present other than a sore calf muscling but that's my own fault for not warming up properly when I went running the other day.
Core training will help you in all three disciplines and it will help prevent you from becoming fatigued. It will give you better run posture and make you faster. This is just if you have time to work one area. If you have the time to work in 3, 30 minute overall strength training days it will be helpful. This is especially important to those of us who are pushing 50 to fight muscle atrophy that come s with age.

I'm a stickler for details. I'm probably going into too much detail and really doesn't matter for (or to!) most people, but that's just to say it's not you ... it really is me and my OCD about always finding devils to go with their tails ... uh ... in the details.

I'm actually a proponent of strength training for everybody, including most triathletes. The benefits are many and you really have to put so little in ... even 10min 2x/week is good. Core training (some types demonstrably more, some less demonstrably less, that's why Tom's asking) will help in all three disciplines, although in different ways for each. They can indeed help delay some muscular fatigue, but not more so than strength training within the disciplines (eg., hard swim intervals, or hills). Some types of core and strength may help you hold good swim technique for longer, swimming being where body position is really important.

But not everyone *needs* to do it.

What prevents (training-related) injury is proper training. Training related injuries nearly always result from too much and/or too hard too quickly.

So let's bring this back to Tom, who's pushing 40 and just quit smoking. Smoking interferes with bone density and that effect is going to last awhile, so he should definitely do some weight-bearing (body weight is fine) work. Running will help with that too, but running has to be built up through frequency and not quickly. Age alone suggests it's a good time for him to start incorporating strength training.

Squats, Bulgarian squats with good technique (nothing explosive, no jumping--in swimming that's what pushing off the wall and good streamlining is for! it's like doing a safe jumping squat against resistance and streamlining is great for core). Planks are great for core; so are the yoga/Pilates triangle and reverse triangle (which have a weight-bearing component). The yoga routines in the BT videos are great.

I'm a huge fan of swim cords for core and strength (and they do translate very well to actual swimming). Ask me more if you like!

And now, ask me when the last time I did core or strength was ... and I'm female, fat, pushing 40, and have arthritis to the tune where it sometimes interferes with daily activities, not to mention training!

Sigh. Can't fix stupid ...

 




Thank you all for the responses and I will start doing them properly now as after some research on what you guys have said, my ideas of were slight outdated. It is slightly depressing to read I am pushing 40 as in my own head I am still 21 just a little slower and fatter!


I need to be doing more Core Exercises too, since I have been having a lot of back problems. The pushing 40, fatter, but still thinking you are 21 definitely applies to me as well. That quote made me laugh. Hoping to drop a few pounds and get rid of the fatter part!!!

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Originally posted by emcmino

Originally posted by tomsimper

Originally posted by IndoIronYanti

Originally posted by JBacarella
Originally posted by tomsimper I had read that core strength helps stopping injury and as I am more wobbly than solid I presumed it would help. I have the time to fit it in as been doing some but wanted to make sure I was doing the right type of exercise instead of just wasting my time thinking as was on the right track. I have no medical issues at present other than a sore calf muscling but that's my own fault for not warming up properly when I went running the other day.
Core training will help you in all three disciplines and it will help prevent you from becoming fatigued. It will give you better run posture and make you faster. This is just if you have time to work one area. If you have the time to work in 3, 30 minute overall strength training days it will be helpful. This is especially important to those of us who are pushing 50 to fight muscle atrophy that come s with age.

I'm a stickler for details. I'm probably going into too much detail and really doesn't matter for (or to!) most people, but that's just to say it's not you ... it really is me and my OCD about always finding devils to go with their tails ... uh ... in the details.

I'm actually a proponent of strength training for everybody, including most triathletes. The benefits are many and you really have to put so little in ... even 10min 2x/week is good. Core training (some types demonstrably more, some less demonstrably less, that's why Tom's asking) will help in all three disciplines, although in different ways for each. They can indeed help delay some muscular fatigue, but not more so than strength training within the disciplines (eg., hard swim intervals, or hills). Some types of core and strength may help you hold good swim technique for longer, swimming being where body position is really important.

But not everyone *needs* to do it.

What prevents (training-related) injury is proper training. Training related injuries nearly always result from too much and/or too hard too quickly.

So let's bring this back to Tom, who's pushing 40 and just quit smoking. Smoking interferes with bone density and that effect is going to last awhile, so he should definitely do some weight-bearing (body weight is fine) work. Running will help with that too, but running has to be built up through frequency and not quickly. Age alone suggests it's a good time for him to start incorporating strength training.

Squats, Bulgarian squats with good technique (nothing explosive, no jumping--in swimming that's what pushing off the wall and good streamlining is for! it's like doing a safe jumping squat against resistance and streamlining is great for core). Planks are great for core; so are the yoga/Pilates triangle and reverse triangle (which have a weight-bearing component). The yoga routines in the BT videos are great.

I'm a huge fan of swim cords for core and strength (and they do translate very well to actual swimming). Ask me more if you like!

And now, ask me when the last time I did core or strength was ... and I'm female, fat, pushing 40, and have arthritis to the tune where it sometimes interferes with daily activities, not to mention training!

Sigh. Can't fix stupid ...

 




Thank you all for the responses and I will start doing them properly now as after some research on what you guys have said, my ideas of were slight outdated. It is slightly depressing to read I am pushing 40 as in my own head I am still 21 just a little slower and fatter!


Count me in for needed to do Core Exercises too. The pushing 40, fatter, but still thinking you are 21 definitely applies to me as well. That quote made me laugh. Hoping to drop a few pounds and get rid of the fatter part!!!


Every day I tell myself to just get out the bed just TWO minutes earlier to do those stupid planks.... This is even on my 2016 resolution list.. Can we do some sort of plank challenge or something? Or make a bet? Collect money? (or beer!!!) I need a serious motivation - just knowing how important core training is seems not to be enough to some stupid folks :/
2016-01-06 11:18 AM
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A very late-coming bio...

NAME: Erin, Yanti-dubbed Goody


STORY: I am a 40yo SAHM...(Ha! I love my job).  I was an elementary and middle school teacher for 12 years before saying it's time for my family. Always active and into the "typical" sports, I also had a horse for 20+ years. I started trying tri 3 years ago, after watching my husband get into it and thinking "I really should try that". It's very much a hobby for me as our family enjoys many activities together: hiking, camping, mountain biking, kayaking... Last year just sucked for any race plans- financially and physically. I did nothing. From a family standpoint, last year was awesome with many cool adventures. Now, I'm looking at local races and trying to figure a balance between money, training time, family time, personal time (aka refound horse time!). I haven't done anything longer than a sprint for a tri, several HMs, mountain bike races, completed (not raced) a marathon, and the requisite sprinkling of 5-10ks.


FAMILY STATUS: Married for 11 years, we have an 8yo goofball and a 5yo ray of sunshine. Our "zoo" includes 4 dogs, a cat, and a lizard rescued off a friend's kitchen floor.


CURRENT TRAINING: I'm just getting back into it after several completely off weeks. I started the Insanity program and I'm back on the trainer, then working in running. Swimming will eventually come. Jason and I are having our date mornings again for trail runs and rides <----I LOVE these!


THIS YEAR'S RACES/EVENTS: Pat's Run, possibly a family tri, HM, a couple of sprints, looking at a couple of trail races, want to do a mtn bike race later this year 


GOALS/OBJECTIVES/DESIRES: Fitness and fun, dropping a big weight gain from last year


WHAT MAKES YOU A GOOD MANATEE: As my son wrote for a school assignment after one of our camping trips, "Clearly there is a lot of adventuring".

2016-01-06 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by melbo55

OK, TinyPic is working correctly today.  Here are my bestest little buddies, Dobie and Coco.

I noticed the Dirty Bike is absent from the bike gallery, I'll need to find a pic of it.

Ha! The ears have it! 

2016-01-06 11:42 AM
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Originally posted by marysia83
Originally posted by emcmino
Originally posted by tomsimper
Originally posted by IndoIronYanti

Originally posted by JBacarella
Originally posted by tomsimper I had read that core strength helps stopping injury and as I am more wobbly than solid I presumed it would help. I have the time to fit it in as been doing some but wanted to make sure I was doing the right type of exercise instead of just wasting my time thinking as was on the right track. I have no medical issues at present other than a sore calf muscling but that's my own fault for not warming up properly when I went running the other day.
Core training will help you in all three disciplines and it will help prevent you from becoming fatigued. It will give you better run posture and make you faster. This is just if you have time to work one area. If you have the time to work in 3, 30 minute overall strength training days it will be helpful. This is especially important to those of us who are pushing 50 to fight muscle atrophy that come s with age.

I'm a stickler for details. I'm probably going into too much detail and really doesn't matter for (or to!) most people, but that's just to say it's not you ... it really is me and my OCD about always finding devils to go with their tails ... uh ... in the details.

I'm actually a proponent of strength training for everybody, including most triathletes. The benefits are many and you really have to put so little in ... even 10min 2x/week is good. Core training (some types demonstrably more, some less demonstrably less, that's why Tom's asking) will help in all three disciplines, although in different ways for each. They can indeed help delay some muscular fatigue, but not more so than strength training within the disciplines (eg., hard swim intervals, or hills). Some types of core and strength may help you hold good swim technique for longer, swimming being where body position is really important.

But not everyone *needs* to do it.

What prevents (training-related) injury is proper training. Training related injuries nearly always result from too much and/or too hard too quickly.

So let's bring this back to Tom, who's pushing 40 and just quit smoking. Smoking interferes with bone density and that effect is going to last awhile, so he should definitely do some weight-bearing (body weight is fine) work. Running will help with that too, but running has to be built up through frequency and not quickly. Age alone suggests it's a good time for him to start incorporating strength training.

Squats, Bulgarian squats with good technique (nothing explosive, no jumping--in swimming that's what pushing off the wall and good streamlining is for! it's like doing a safe jumping squat against resistance and streamlining is great for core). Planks are great for core; so are the yoga/Pilates triangle and reverse triangle (which have a weight-bearing component). The yoga routines in the BT videos are great.

I'm a huge fan of swim cords for core and strength (and they do translate very well to actual swimming). Ask me more if you like!

And now, ask me when the last time I did core or strength was ... and I'm female, fat, pushing 40, and have arthritis to the tune where it sometimes interferes with daily activities, not to mention training!

Sigh. Can't fix stupid ...

 

Thank you all for the responses and I will start doing them properly now as after some research on what you guys have said, my ideas of were slight outdated. It is slightly depressing to read I am pushing 40 as in my own head I am still 21 just a little slower and fatter!
Count me in for needed to do Core Exercises too. The pushing 40, fatter, but still thinking you are 21 definitely applies to me as well. That quote made me laugh. Hoping to drop a few pounds and get rid of the fatter part!!!
Every day I tell myself to just get out the bed just TWO minutes earlier to do those stupid planks.... This is even on my 2016 resolution list.. Can we do some sort of plank challenge or something? Or make a bet? Collect money? (or beer!!!) I need a serious motivation - just knowing how important core training is seems not to be enough to some stupid folks :/

Since we have a number of newish members here, there is a Challenge section in the BT Forums. All kinds of challenges set up by users in here. Often times they are consistency related goals to help people keep up their training. in this case, one that comes to mind last year.was called Plank A Day.



2016-01-06 11:49 AM
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Since we have a number of newish members here, there is a Challenge section in the BT Forums. All kinds of challenges set up by users in here. Often times they are consistency related goals to help people keep up their training. in this case, one that comes to mind last year.was called Plank A Day.




Thanks for the suggestion! I found it, but last post was in August. So maybe it's time to start new challenge.
I have just did one-minute plank. It did't hurt
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Originally posted by melbo55

OK, TinyPic is working correctly today.  Here are my bestest little buddies, Dobie and Coco.

I noticed the Dirty Bike is absent from the bike gallery, I'll need to find a pic of it.

Cuties!




I like the curious look of the grey one hehe
2016-01-06 12:23 PM
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Here ya go, Chris.  Please add Dirty Bike, aka Stumpy, to the bike gallery!  At least it's in its natural element, even if its goofy owner lurking behind a tree making a mustache from a feather... 

2016-01-06 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by IndoIronYanti

Originally posted by JBacarella
Originally posted by tomsimper I had read that core strength helps stopping injury and as I am more wobbly than solid I presumed it would help. I have the time to fit it in as been doing some but wanted to make sure I was doing the right type of exercise instead of just wasting my time thinking as was on the right track. I have no medical issues at present other than a sore calf muscling but that's my own fault for not warming up properly when I went running the other day.
Core training will help you in all three disciplines and it will help prevent you from becoming fatigued. It will give you better run posture and make you faster. This is just if you have time to work one area. If you have the time to work in 3, 30 minute overall strength training days it will be helpful. This is especially important to those of us who are pushing 50 to fight muscle atrophy that come s with age.

I'm a stickler for details. I'm probably going into too much detail and really doesn't matter for (or to!) most people, but that's just to say it's not you ... it really is me and my OCD about always finding devils to go with their tails ... uh ... in the details.

I'm actually a proponent of strength training for everybody, including most triathletes. The benefits are many and you really have to put so little in ... even 10min 2x/week is good. Core training (some types demonstrably more, some less demonstrably less, that's why Tom's asking) will help in all three disciplines, although in different ways for each. They can indeed help delay some muscular fatigue, but not more so than strength training within the disciplines (eg., hard swim intervals, or hills). Some types of core and strength may help you hold good swim technique for longer, swimming being where body position is really important.

But not everyone *needs* to do it.

What prevents (training-related) injury is proper training. Training related injuries nearly always result from too much and/or too hard too quickly.

So let's bring this back to Tom, who's pushing 40 and just quit smoking. Smoking interferes with bone density and that effect is going to last awhile, so he should definitely do some weight-bearing (body weight is fine) work. Running will help with that too, but running has to be built up through frequency and not quickly. Age alone suggests it's a good time for him to start incorporating strength training.

Squats, Bulgarian squats with good technique (nothing explosive, no jumping--in swimming that's what pushing off the wall and good streamlining is for! it's like doing a safe jumping squat against resistance and streamlining is great for core). Planks are great for core; so are the yoga/Pilates triangle and reverse triangle (which have a weight-bearing component). The yoga routines in the BT videos are great.

I'm a huge fan of swim cords for core and strength (and they do translate very well to actual swimming). Ask me more if you like!

And now, ask me when the last time I did core or strength was ... and I'm female, fat, pushing 40, and have arthritis to the tune where it sometimes interferes with daily activities, not to mention training!

Sigh. Can't fix stupid ...

 

I tend look at it building out of the bolded. Look at the activities you want to do. Tri related, general health, etc. Can you perform that activity? What do you need to improve on for it? Can just do the activity. Can also be some things within the activity itself that can help with this. A good reason to do this is that the more related the additional exercise is to what you're doing it for then the more helpful it tends to be. Examples of what I mean can be in what I've done. I've done zero things that could be considered separate strength training in at least several years. Swimming is one that is really underutilized. Learn to swim well. It really uses a lot of the core muscles when done right. It also directly helps performance in an activity you're trying to do because you're doing the activity itself. Slightly off from freestyle swimming (but still quite helpful) is learning to swim all the strokes. Slightly different (but still very related) motions can help develop a better feel for the water, improve body awareness while in the water, and the different motions needed can work other areas not used so much in freestyle. Yanti has pointed out that something like breast stroke simply can't be done without a good catch. Learning that part of it will transfer right over to freestyle. A strong "Aha!" type moment with other development benefits. Learning to dolphin kick, even just doing a little, can really stress the abdominal area some (and that feel for the water again).

For running, the increased abdominal area fitness did help hold my torso position better, but it was when i did some faster running that really made a difference. Like doing strides. Or especially for me it was going through a number of Repetition speed workouts by Jack Daniels. My torso figured how to position more effectively and my legs figured out how to move better. Then by running simply more in the improved position my running became better.

I've taken pilates and yoga classes before, and they did help with swimming. Mostly in the awareness and control of what my torso was doing. The improvement stopped fairly quick though. Later on I got into masters and picked up much better technique directions and other things to do in the pool and they really built up the needed areas far more than the classes were.

For me, I've been able to find ways of addressing deficiencies within the activities. I also haven't had anything real major. Well, this broken collarbone being the exception now. But someone like Stacy is probably going to need to do more. For what to do, she needs to keep talking with the expert develop things as there was clearly something that happened which needed to be addressed. Just doing the activities don't seem to be enough.

So the point with all this is that it's not so much yes/no to strength training, or finding some sort of "best exercises" that everyone else seems to have, but to look at your situation to see what *you* need to do to perform the activities you want. There are several of us in the therapy center with shoulder injuries. Some of our exercises are the same. Some are very different. We have different injuries that need different exercises to address our own deficiencies.

2016-01-06 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by DaveL
Originally posted by cdban66

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Gracious, do you have everything ever????? BTW, I moved the bike gallery to a BT Album.

Oooooo! bike pictures, how do I add mine in there.

Post your bike pic(s) here.

okay here is the first one and my most recent bike purchase. I sold my Cervelo P1 to fund this one as I am doing mostly Xterras now. The bike is pretty much a hoot and after riding a Klein hard tail since 1997 the new bike seems to float over the rough stuff. Upgrades have included moving to Stans Crest wheels, tubeless tires and XT rotors which shaved a couple of lbs. off the bike. .

Nice looking bike! Which one is it? Upgraded mine back in the fall to a Trek Fuel Ex 9.8. Some of these new things are absolutely amazing! The "floating over stuff" isn't really an exaggeration anymore. Getting close to cheating.

Its a RockyMountain Element930, not the highest end version but I got it at a good price towards the end of the season and it fit the bill. The Trek EX9.8 is a great bike and I can certainly see why you enjoy it. "cheating" was my first impression when I rode the new bike as I was used to getting hammered by the super stiff rear triangle of that Klein.

Yeah, I'm just so amazed with what any recent full suspension can do, let alone one like this. I just feel nothing jarring anymore. Well, so long as I stay ON the bike!



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Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by IndoIronYanti

But not everyone *needs* to do it.

 

I tend look at it building out of the bolded. Look at the activities you want to do. Tri related, general health, etc. Can you perform that activity? What do you need to improve on for it? Can just do the activity. Can also be some things within the activity itself that can help with this. A good reason to do this is that the more related the additional exercise is to what you're doing it for then the more helpful it tends to be. Examples of what I mean can be in what I've done. I've done zero things that could be considered separate strength training in at least several years. Swimming is one that is really underutilized. Learn to swim well. It really uses a lot of the core muscles when done right. It also directly helps performance in an activity you're trying to do because you're doing the activity itself. Slightly off from freestyle swimming (but still quite helpful) is learning to swim all the strokes. Slightly different (but still very related) motions can help develop a better feel for the water, improve body awareness while in the water, and the different motions needed can work other areas not used so much in freestyle. Yanti has pointed out that something like breast stroke simply can't be done without a good catch. Learning that part of it will transfer right over to freestyle. A strong "Aha!" type moment with other development benefits. Learning to dolphin kick, even just doing a little, can really stress the abdominal area some (and that feel for the water again).

For running, the increased abdominal area fitness did help hold my torso position better, but it was when i did some faster running that really made a difference. Like doing strides. Or especially for me it was going through a number of Repetition speed workouts by Jack Daniels. My torso figured how to position more effectively and my legs figured out how to move better. Then by running simply more in the improved position my running became better.

I've taken pilates and yoga classes before, and they did help with swimming. Mostly in the awareness and control of what my torso was doing. The improvement stopped fairly quick though. Later on I got into masters and picked up much better technique directions and other things to do in the pool and they really built up the needed areas far more than the classes were.

For me, I've been able to find ways of addressing deficiencies within the activities. I also haven't had anything real major. Well, this broken collarbone being the exception now. But someone like Stacy is probably going to need to do more. For what to do, she needs to keep talking with the expert develop things as there was clearly something that happened which needed to be addressed. Just doing the activities don't seem to be enough.

So the point with all this is that it's not so much yes/no to strength training, or finding some sort of "best exercises" that everyone else seems to have, but to look at your situation to see what *you* need to do to perform the activities you want. There are several of us in the therapy center with shoulder injuries. Some of our exercises are the same. Some are very different. We have different injuries that need different exercises to address our own deficiencies.

I tend to look at it building out of the bolded bits that B-- ... Bar--- Bil--- that B-guy said.

Addressing swim/bike/run deficiencies, and needing to improve on them, generally is best done through swim/bike/run. Some of us may be supported or helped with certain types of strength training; some of us need to do certain types of strength training.

For someone with a solid running history who's also currently been running consistently, faster can be the ticket. For those in their first few years, or building back up (like me) what he said about strides can be incorporated ... most simply, it's just increasing your foot turnover for a short stretch (100m, 30sec, whatever) from time to time within workouts. Not lengthening stride, not necessarily picking up the pace (though that usually happens if your feet move faster!). Hills. Just a normal easy pace up them. No pounding. It'll get hard quickly anyway .

And finally, especially that last bolded bit that Be--Bur--he said.

2016-01-06 1:14 PM
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I was thinking about the "core discussion" on my way into work this afternoon. My personal shortcoming is flexibility.  I find that when I do a good leg stretch every day for a week or so, I see benefit.  It kind of falls in line with Ben's and Yanti's statements of "What are you going to gain?" and "What do you need to do?" I also try to incorporate some core, yoga, or pilates movements as well.  I find I am better off if I take about 10-15 minutes at the end of the day and do a stretching/core routine.  I'm not sure that this will help everybody or anybody for that matter, but I do find that it helps me. ANd sometimes that's the best we can go on.  Try something for a few weeks in a row and see what happens.

2016-01-06 1:17 PM
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OK, TinyPic is working correctly today.  Here are my bestest little buddies, Dobie and Coco.

I noticed the Dirty Bike is absent from the bike gallery, I'll need to find a pic of it.

Both dogs and bike are in their respective Albums.

2016-01-06 1:23 PM
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Bio:  I am defaulting to my once a Manatee always a Manatee status in order to compensate for my being 15 pages too late.

NAME: Adrienne

STORY: I was relatively athletic throughtout my childhood, highschool and college. I played several sports including hockey in college. I was a bit overwhelmed by life and didn't prioritize sport or fitness and inevitable gained some weight and got out of shape. More important, I was unhappy and suffered from some depression. I decided to take control of the few things in life that one can including eating better and working exercise into my routine. I signed up and trained for a triathlon and began competing at a higher level, getting some top ten overall finishes and podiums as well as competing at Nationals. While training seriously, I realized I didn't love triathlon but really, really loved running. I switched to exclusively running and have been exploring the sport to the far corners of it's competition again, getting some overall podiums and competing on a national level. I've found a  bit of a niche in Mountain Running. While this is my favorite, I compete in a variety of other running racing from road marathons to cross country. I've also used running as a platform to explore in a literal sense, running 100 miles of the PCT last summer ( photo and summary here: https://adriennes.exposure.co/pct-runventure  and run-summiting a few mountain peaks here in the Pacific Northwest. 

FAMILY STATUS: Partnered, 3 grey cats one aging pug

CURRENT TRAINING: I'm building a base but prioritizing family, friends and other interests before I begin marathon training in February (pending acceptance to the marathon I am eyeing)

THIS YEAR'S RACES/EVENTS: The plan is to do several mountaineering,splitboarding and casual trail events through the spring during my marathon prep to keep things fresh and fun. Then after the marathon I will shift to shorter trail/mounting running competition with more emphasis on vertical gain/loss than distance. I'd like to become a better downhill runner this year so that will be a big focus of training and racing. I am sure many other things will come up but I would like to leave some time in my schedule for big multi-day mountain runs and adventures and less focus on competing.

Light grey means maybe, black means likely

Vertfest - Alpental, WA Feb 14 
Mt. Baker Splitfest - Mt. Baker, WA March 11-13 
Light at the End of the Tunnel Marathon - North Bend, WA June 12 June 18
Mt. Baker SkiMO - Mt. Baker, WA June 25-27
Marathon Mountain - Seward, AK July 4th
Sufferfest Idaho Mountain 10K - BC, Canada  July 24th
Beast of Big Creek Mt. Ellinor, WA Aug 6 
The Rut/Lond Peak Vertical K - Montana,  Sept. 2 
Crystal Mountain Sky Marathon - Crystal Mountain, WA September 17


GOALS/OBJECTIVES/DESIRES: I want to continue to grow as a person and a runner. I want to explore this beautiful planet we live on and I want to give back when and where I can.

WHAT MAKES YOU A GOOD MANATEE: I like to have a group of people familiar with my history to bounce ideas off of and I like to provide advice when appropriate 

2016-01-06 1:27 PM
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Originally posted by Asalzwed

Light grey means maybe, black means likely

Vertfest - Alpental, WA Feb 14 
Mt. Baker Splitfest - Mt. Baker, WA March 11-13 
Light at the End of the Tunnel Marathon - North Bend, WA June 12 June 18
Mt. Baker SkiMO - Mt. Baker, WA June 25-27
Marathon Mountain - Seward, AK July 4th
Sufferfest Idaho Mountain 10K - BC, Canada  July 24th
Beast of Big Creek Mt. Ellinor, WA Aug 6 
The Rut/Lond Peak Vertical K - Montana,  Sept. 2 
Crystal Mountain Sky Marathon - Crystal Mountain, WA September 17


GOALS/OBJECTIVES/DESIRES: I want to continue to grow as a person and a runner. I want to explore this beautiful planet we live on and I want to give back when and where I can.

Salty that last line is glorious. Please don't ever stop sharing the pics, either.

I should've formatted my race list that way ...

And I'm really, really happy to know Stevie is still groovin'.



2016-01-06 1:31 PM
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Originally posted by IndoIronYanti

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Light grey means maybe, black means likely

Vertfest - Alpental, WA Feb 14 
Mt. Baker Splitfest - Mt. Baker, WA March 11-13 
Light at the End of the Tunnel Marathon - North Bend, WA June 12 June 18
Mt. Baker SkiMO - Mt. Baker, WA June 25-27
Marathon Mountain - Seward, AK July 4th
Sufferfest Idaho Mountain 10K - BC, Canada  July 24th
Beast of Big Creek Mt. Ellinor, WA Aug 6 
The Rut/Lond Peak Vertical K - Montana,  Sept. 2 
Crystal Mountain Sky Marathon - Crystal Mountain, WA September 17


GOALS/OBJECTIVES/DESIRES: I want to continue to grow as a person and a runner. I want to explore this beautiful planet we live on and I want to give back when and where I can.

Salty that last line is glorious. Please don't ever stop sharing the pics, either.

I should've formatted my race list that way ...

And I'm really, really happy to know Stevie is still groovin'.

Thanks, Yanti.

If by groovin' you mean deaf and mostly blind, hahahaha. Naaaah, considering her main passion in life is eating she is just fine getting by on her taste and smell

2016-01-06 1:45 PM
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Originally posted by Asalzwed

Bio:  I am defaulting to my once a Manatee always a Manatee status in order to compensate for my being 15 pages too late.

NAME: Adrienne

STORY: I was relatively athletic throughtout my childhood, highschool and college. I played several sports including hockey in college. I was a bit overwhelmed by life and didn't prioritize sport or fitness and inevitable gained some weight and got out of shape. More important, I was unhappy and suffered from some depression. I decided to take control of the few things in life that one can including eating better and working exercise into my routine. I signed up and trained for a triathlon and began competing at a higher level, getting some top ten overall finishes and podiums as well as competing at Nationals. While training seriously, I realized I didn't love triathlon but really, really loved running. I switched to exclusively running and have been exploring the sport to the far corners of it's competition again, getting some overall podiums and competing on a national level. I've found a  bit of a niche in Mountain Running. While this is my favorite, I compete in a variety of other running racing from road marathons to cross country. I've also used running as a platform to explore in a literal sense, running 100 miles of the PCT last summer ( photo and summary here: https://adriennes.exposure.co/pct-runventure  and run-summiting a few mountain peaks here in the Pacific Northwest. 

FAMILY STATUS: Partnered, 3 grey cats one aging pug

CURRENT TRAINING: I'm building a base but prioritizing family, friends and other interests before I begin marathon training in February (pending acceptance to the marathon I am eyeing)

THIS YEAR'S RACES/EVENTS: The plan is to do several mountaineering,splitboarding and casual trail events through the spring during my marathon prep to keep things fresh and fun. Then after the marathon I will shift to shorter trail/mounting running competition with more emphasis on vertical gain/loss than distance. I'd like to become a better downhill runner this year so that will be a big focus of training and racing. I am sure many other things will come up but I would like to leave some time in my schedule for big multi-day mountain runs and adventures and less focus on competing.

Light grey means maybe, black means likely

Vertfest - Alpental, WA Feb 14 
Mt. Baker Splitfest - Mt. Baker, WA March 11-13 
Light at the End of the Tunnel Marathon - North Bend, WA June 12 June 18
Mt. Baker SkiMO - Mt. Baker, WA June 25-27
Marathon Mountain - Seward, AK July 4th
Sufferfest Idaho Mountain 10K - BC, Canada  July 24th
Beast of Big Creek Mt. Ellinor, WA Aug 6 
The Rut/Lond Peak Vertical K - Montana,  Sept. 2 
Crystal Mountain Sky Marathon - Crystal Mountain, WA September 17


GOALS/OBJECTIVES/DESIRES: I want to continue to grow as a person and a runner. I want to explore this beautiful planet we live on and I want to give back when and where I can.

WHAT MAKES YOU A GOOD MANATEE: I like to have a group of people familiar with my history to bounce ideas off of and I like to provide advice when appropriate 

Welcome back, my friend.

2016-01-06 2:28 PM
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Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl

Originally posted by Richardsdrr Matt, the Sufferland tour details are on their site already....

I've always wanted to try the Tour of Sufferlandria... but I'm askurred!  

You can hear this coming a mile off........DO EEEEEETTTTTT!!!!!!!!!@

Hahaha!  I was wondering how long & who would be the first!!!  

2016-01-06 3:08 PM
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Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl

Originally posted by Richardsdrr
Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl

Originally posted by Richardsdrr Matt, the Sufferland tour details are on their site already....

I've always wanted to try the Tour of Sufferlandria... but I'm askurred!  

You can hear this coming a mile off........DO EEEEEETTTTTT!!!!!!!!!@

Hahaha!  I was wondering how long & who would be the first!!!  




Can someone explain to me his the Tour of Sufferlandria / Sufferfest in general works? I just got my Kickr up and running and I'm using Zwift. I love that as the terrain changes on the course my trainer automatically makes it harder/easier to ride. Is Suffer... the same? If not, are you supposed to adjust the difficulty of the trainer yourself based on perceived difficulty from the video?
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