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 2021-02-05 11:26 AM in reply to: ceilidh |
Champion  14677      Bronze member |  Subject: RE: Manatees Dooo Eeeet!!!Hw goes the GoJo, Gojoers? I met my goals this week, hopefully that means I am recovering! Happy Friyay all! |
| 2021-02-05 11:39 AM in reply to: jmkizer |
| 11 | Subject: RE: Manatees Dooo Eeeet!!! Wauw, what an awesome welcome! Thank you, everyone! I'm so excited for this new adventure. So, with no set race date anytime soon -I have decided to work on my run-fobia. I'm happy with my program and feel confident in sticking to it, but I'm curious to know your best (and worst) running habits for inspiration. I know there is also a ton of information online, so if you have some really helpful sites, feel free to share those with me as well  Again, thanks for the warm welcome!!! Jo |
| 2021-02-05 11:58 AM in reply to: ceilidh |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatees Dooo Eeeet!!! Originally posted by ceilidh Hw goes the GoJo, Gojoers? I met my goals this week, hopefully that means I am recovering! Happy Friyay all! Yeah! Thanks for asking about the JoGo! So far so good on my end. I'm glad to hear that you are making progress. |
| 2021-02-05 12:00 PM in reply to: Johanne |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatees Dooo Eeeet!!! Originally posted by Johanne Wauw, what an awesome welcome! Thank you, everyone! I'm so excited for this new adventure. So, with no set race date anytime soon -I have decided to work on my run-fobia. I'm happy with my program and feel confident in sticking to it, but I'm curious to know your best (and worst) running habits for inspiration. I know there is also a ton of information online, so if you have some really helpful sites, feel free to share those with me as well Again, thanks for the warm welcome!!! Jo For me, the. best running habit is consistency. I made some good improvements with my most recent run streak. Nothing fancy, just getting out there on a regular basis. |
| 2021-02-05 1:03 PM in reply to: ceilidh |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Manatees Dooo Eeeet!!! Originally posted by ceilidh Hw goes the GoJo, Gojoers? I met my goals this week, hopefully that means I am recovering! Happy Friyay all! my gojo has not been going very well! Hope to get back to strength stuff next week. Yes, I said that least week too! Glad you are recovering! |
| 2021-02-05 1:08 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Manatees Dooo Eeeet!!! Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by Johanne Wauw, what an awesome welcome! Thank you, everyone! I'm so excited for this new adventure. So, with no set race date anytime soon -I have decided to work on my run-fobia. I'm happy with my program and feel confident in sticking to it, but I'm curious to know your best (and worst) running habits for inspiration. I know there is also a ton of information online, so if you have some really helpful sites, feel free to share those with me as well Again, thanks for the warm welcome!!! Jo For me, the. best running habit is consistency. I made some good improvements with my most recent run streak. Nothing fancy, just getting out there on a regular basis. Agreed. Consistency is really important. Plus remember when you are first starting out things will feel very hard and you may think it won’t get better. It will, just stick with the plan. |
| 2021-02-05 1:41 PM in reply to: amd723 |
| 11 | Subject: RE: Manatees Dooo Eeeet!!! Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by Johanne Wauw, what an awesome welcome! Thank you, everyone! I'm so excited for this new adventure. So, with no set race date anytime soon -I have decided to work on my run-fobia. I'm happy with my program and feel confident in sticking to it, but I'm curious to know your best (and worst) running habits for inspiration. I know there is also a ton of information online, so if you have some really helpful sites, feel free to share those with me as well Again, thanks for the warm welcome!!! Jo For me, the. best running habit is consistency. I made some good improvements with my most recent run streak. Nothing fancy, just getting out there on a regular basis. Agreed. Consistency is really important. Plus remember when you are first starting out things will feel very hard and you may think it won’t get better. It will, just stick with the plan. I love the idea of "just start". Now that you mentioned it, it occurred to me that I used to do something similar for swimming. On those days when I didn't feel like going, I used to tell myself "just get in the pool and if you only feel like hanging out in the water, that's okay." It worked brilliantly for me. And that would work towards consistency as well |
| 2021-02-05 4:11 PM in reply to: ceilidh |
| Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Manatees Dooo Eeeet!!! Originally posted by ceilidh Hw goes the GoJo, Gojoers? I met my goals this week, hopefully that means I am recovering! Happy Friyay all! Goals met = awesome!! Glad that means you are recovering and feeling more like yourself. |
| 2021-02-05 4:18 PM in reply to: Johanne |
| Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Manatees Dooo Eeeet!!! Originally posted by Johanne Wauw, what an awesome welcome! Thank you, everyone! I'm so excited for this new adventure. So, with no set race date anytime soon -I have decided to work on my run-fobia. I'm happy with my program and feel confident in sticking to it, but I'm curious to know your best (and worst) running habits for inspiration. I know there is also a ton of information online, so if you have some really helpful sites, feel free to share those with me as well Again, thanks for the warm welcome!!! Jo Hi Jo, and welcome! Things that may help your run phobia (but may also admittedly be a little tougher in these current times) is find somewhere pretty/fun/interesting to run if you have such an opportunity. You probably won't be able to do this for every run, but adding a little spark once in a while helps with motivation. If you have a safe running pal, this can be helpful, too. Last spring I made a challenge to run every street and alley in my small town and that was a lot of fun. I looked forward to 'collecting streets' and the planning that went into figuring out the routes was stimulating, too. I actually miss that challenge. I was able to complete it in early summer. In hindsight, being the data nerd that I am, I wish I had separately recorded each run by mileage and time so I would know how many miles it took me to complete the feat. |
| 2021-02-05 5:19 PM in reply to: ceilidh |
| 297 | Subject: RE: Manatees Dooo Eeeet!!! Originally posted by ceilidh Hw goes the GoJo, Gojoers? I met my goals this week, hopefully that means I am recovering! Happy Friyay all! I'm not going to lie, I was a total slug this week. Tons of stuff at work, some kid issues at home, and crappy weather outside. Excuses excuses, but I just blew it this week. Fortunately i did go down on weight still. Had a short run last weekend, but not much else. I signed up for one of the walking challenges in Strava - 4 walks/week for 4 straight weeks. I jumped on the treadmill last night at 8 p.m. because I knew if I didn't get it in, the whole challenge was blown. So I have to do another today, tomorrow and Sunday to keep it going. Not a good start to that challenge. Next week will be better. It has to be, can really only go up from here. Welcome to BT Jo. I joined last year. The folks in this group have a ton of experience and are really supportive (even when you completely blow things off for a bit - see above re my week). As Ann-Marie said, just start. Then if you want to quit, quit. I've heard it a few different ways, the most memorable being at least get out of bed, get dressed and put your running shoes on. If at that point you aren't up for it, ok. But at least get to that point. I also find that being a member here in this group and checking the thread daily helps a lot. You should also join the group in strava. It's pretty inspiring to see what other members are doing, and that will help you get going. And if it doesn't inspire you, maybe it will at least guilt you into going for a run. I mean, when you log in and see that even Teddy the Griff went 6 miles that day, you can't help but at least do something. Hahaha. |
| 2021-02-05 5:49 PM in reply to: alaskatri |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Manatees Dooo Eeeet!!! Originally posted by alaskatri Originally posted by ceilidh Hw goes the GoJo, Gojoers? I met my goals this week, hopefully that means I am recovering! Happy Friyay all! I'm not going to lie, I was a total slug this week. Tons of stuff at work, some kid issues at home, and crappy weather outside. Excuses excuses, but I just blew it this week. Fortunately i did go down on weight still. Had a short run last weekend, but not much else. I signed up for one of the walking challenges in Strava - 4 walks/week for 4 straight weeks. I jumped on the treadmill last night at 8 p.m. because I knew if I didn't get it in, the whole challenge was blown. So I have to do another today, tomorrow and Sunday to keep it going. Not a good start to that challenge. Next week will be better. It has to be, can really only go up from here. Welcome to BT Jo. I joined last year. The folks in this group have a ton of experience and are really supportive (even when you completely blow things off for a bit - see above re my week). As Ann-Marie said, just start. Then if you want to quit, quit. I've heard it a few different ways, the most memorable being at least get out of bed, get dressed and put your running shoes on. If at that point you aren't up for it, ok. But at least get to that point. I also find that being a member here in this group and checking the thread daily helps a lot. You should also join the group in strava. It's pretty inspiring to see what other members are doing, and that will help you get going. And if it doesn't inspire you, maybe it will at least guilt you into going for a run. I mean, when you log in and see that even Teddy the Griff went 6 miles that day, you can't help but at least do something. Hahaha. LOL, I'll let Teddy know that he motivates you |
| 2021-02-06 5:02 AM in reply to: ceilidh |
Expert 1694 Illinois | Subject: RE: Manatees Dooo Eeeet!!! Originally posted by ceilidh Hw goes the GoJo, Gojoers? I met my goals this week, hopefully that means I am recovering! Happy Friyay all! Happy Saturday Manatees!!! I'm in the weight loss category and while I am lagging behind my actual goal weight, the scale did budge slightly in the right direction so I'll call it a win. |
| 2021-02-06 9:37 PM in reply to: 0 |
Master 8249 Eugene, Oregon Bronze member | Subject: RE: Manatees Dooo Eeeet!!! Wow--Hilo! I have visited a couple of times and remember it's pretty hilly. I live in a neighborhood where everything is either screaming uphill or screaming downhill and it can be hard to get my bones out the door if I'm not feeling very energetic. (I don't always have time to drive to a flatter place to run.). Maybe try starting with runs in a flatter and scenic area? (NOT the road out of Waipio Valley--one of my crazier vacation run concepts.) I've quite possibly been running longer than most in this group--51 and have been running pretty much continuously at least a few times a week since I was 10. I guess my advice would be to develop a relationship with the sport that you enjoy. I have done everything with my running from high-level D1 cross-country in college and Olympic Trials marathon to lots of trails, to casual fun-running to running as just one part of tri training, and really enjoyed all of those in different ways at different times in my life. If what you like most is running with others, great. Or solo. Trails or road or track. Personally, I only really enjoy running when I'm running by myself at my own pace, and can take my time warming up. I can't stand running with other people. They always seem to start too fast and then fade just when I'm getting my second wind, which can take well over an hour. Plus they want to talk and I don't! I'm not the best training partner LOL. I try to vary my routes but have favorites that I like to "visit" in different weather and seasons. If it's a long run or I'm tired, I'll try to do it somewhere scenic, which would probably be an option sometimes on the Big Island. I will readily admit to stopping to take pictures of scenery, plants, wildlife etc. on runs. Will also admit that I stop to check out Little Free Libraries (not sure if that's a thing elsewhere--book exchange shelves outside people's houses), sidewalk sales (there were these used clothing places where I used to live in Idaho that always had cool stuff outside and I would always check it out), and (pre-Covid times) sometimes I route my long run past garage sales and scope them out. (Yes, I did this even when I was a semi national-class runner--poor college student and all!) It should never be so serious that you can't enjoy yourself, at least for most of us most of the time! If treadmills or tracks is what gets you going, great. But personally I have never understood the attraction! To be honest, sometimes I reward myself with a treat after a long run or hard workout--nice coffee or brunch (on the weekend) at a favorite place (pre-Covid) or a cinnamon roll from a local bakery. When I lived in Honolulu (grad school) I would do malasada (sp? Those Portuguese donut thingies)) runs. It just makes it easier to get out the door. Whatever gets you going--if it brings you joy, you will stick with it. Edited by Hot Runner 2021-02-06 9:40 PM |
| 2021-02-07 11:02 AM in reply to: 0 |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: Manatees Dooo Eeeet!!! Originally posted by ceilidh Hw goes the GoJo, Gojoers? I met my goals this week, hopefully that means I am recovering! Happy Friyay all! A bit of a dip for me this week. I got in my 4 rides, but time was short on each ride. Not a big deal. I am heading out the door for the first ride of my week, and after the rain that just came through, it may be a bit of a slugfest out there. Johanne, I echo the consistency suggestion. Set a goal to get out the door with running shoes X times a week. Once you are out there, the miles will build. And from there, it just gets easier. And like Karen and Melanie stated, find the joy in it. Alone, in a group setting, fast, slow, trails, roads, or any other method that makes it enjoyable (I love the ever street in town angle) will help you maintain the consistency. And for long triathlon/Endurance racing there are two simple keys. Consistency and health. Edited by cdban66 2021-02-07 11:04 AM |
| 2021-02-07 4:40 PM in reply to: 0 |
| Lethbridge, Alberta Bronze member | Subject: RE: Manatees Dooo Eeeet!!! For the challenge, I'm still headed in the right direction but missed the arbitrary weight target by a little. The talk about Hawaii reminded me of Chris' elevation searches and a ride I did on Maui some years back. You can rent a bike in Paia and ride up the volcano, just over 10,000 feet in about 36 miles. Cold coming down though. Clouds had moved in, from 7,500 ft down to about 3,000, and when you're just coasting down that mist can get chilly! My picture is from that ride. I found a fun little tri on Maui too. I think it was called Tin man, or something like that. Edit: Googled for it. Aluminum man. Edit #2: Found the trip in my logs here. Aluminum Man series, but the event I did was a Duathlon. I had the elevation wrong on the clouds too. Sunshine on the way up and the clouds started about 6000 ft on the way down. Memory plays tricks after a decade or so.Edited by Micawber 2021-02-07 5:32 PM |
| 2021-02-08 2:54 AM in reply to: Hot Runner |
| 11 | Subject: RE: Manatees Dooo Eeeet!!! This is awesome! Thanks for all the great advice! What is the strava group called - Manatees? I find it so interesting that most of this I can relate to on the bike, so I'll try to transfer that to my running as well. It is pretty hilly here in Hilo, but the ocean front area and beach park road is flat and scenic - and would be great for mixing things up. I really like all the suggestions of creativity and fun, and it would be such a great challenge to run all the roads in my area, once I get a little more stamina and can tackle all the hills up here. Perhaps I should also give trail running a go. It seems so appealing to me, but I've been hesitant as I've sprained my ankles more times than I care to admit. For me it is definitely important not to get too bored - at least while I'm still building a decent base, as I know from the treadmill that boredom will make me quit too soon. I have never biked on Maui, only hiked in the crater of Haleakala (the big volcano), but I remember a group of tourists coming down in big bulky jumpsuits on battered bikes to do a "sunrise ride" down the volcano. I have biked down from Kilauea summit here on BI, though. Does cadence matter in the beginning or should I just follow my natural flow? I'm running at around 148 spm, which I know is slow, but I'm in HR zone 4 most of the time, so I don't feel like stepping it up. Perhaps this will change once I get more running-fit, but is it something I should consciously work on? |
| 2021-02-08 10:20 AM in reply to: Johanne |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: Manatees Dooo Eeeet!!! |
| 2021-02-08 11:10 AM in reply to: Johanne |
| 1731 Denver, Colorado | Subject: RE: Manatees Dooo Eeeet!!! Originally posted by Johanne This is awesome! Thanks for all the great advice! What is the strava group called - Manatees? I find it so interesting that most of this I can relate to on the bike, so I'll try to transfer that to my running as well. It is pretty hilly here in Hilo, but the ocean front area and beach park road is flat and scenic - and would be great for mixing things up. I really like all the suggestions of creativity and fun, and it would be such a great challenge to run all the roads in my area, once I get a little more stamina and can tackle all the hills up here. Perhaps I should also give trail running a go. It seems so appealing to me, but I've been hesitant as I've sprained my ankles more times than I care to admit. For me it is definitely important not to get too bored - at least while I'm still building a decent base, as I know from the treadmill that boredom will make me quit too soon. I have never biked on Maui, only hiked in the crater of Haleakala (the big volcano), but I remember a group of tourists coming down in big bulky jumpsuits on battered bikes to do a "sunrise ride" down the volcano. I have biked down from Kilauea summit here on BI, though. Does cadence matter in the beginning or should I just follow my natural flow? I'm running at around 148 spm, which I know is slow, but I'm in HR zone 4 most of the time, so I don't feel like stepping it up. Perhaps this will change once I get more running-fit, but is it something I should consciously work on? I absolutely love trail running! Definitely give it a try, especially since you have beautiful trails around you.... I hated it when I used to live in Chicago - I only had paved flat roads. We had few trails through the forests, but they were flat and not challenging at all. I absolutely hate running on the paved roads and inthe city.... Running on a trail is a completely different way of running, totally different experience - at least for me. I can do it for hours, and I cry when running 15 minutes on a paved one  But being careful is definitely a key. Legs high, eyes on everything. Run slowly. As for the cadence, I would not worry about it at the beginning. I am not an expewrt, I also am not the best person to give an advice, because I "run for fun", and rather slower |
| 2021-02-08 1:10 PM in reply to: marysia83 |
| Lethbridge, Alberta Bronze member | Subject: RE: Manatees Dooo Eeeet!!! I'm finding it tough to get motivated today. The morning temps here were -27C, about -16 or -17 in F. Colder further north too. The furnace is turned up but there's still cold corners and the treadmill is in the basement. Hard to shake the chill. (whine finished) |
| 2021-02-08 1:17 PM in reply to: Micawber |
| 1731 Denver, Colorado | Subject: RE: Manatees Dooo Eeeet!!! Originally posted by Micawber I'm finding it tough to get motivated today. The morning temps here were -27C, about -16 or -17 in F. Colder further north too. The furnace is turned up but there's still cold corners and the treadmill is in the basement. Hard to shake the chill. (whine finished) Ugh... I feel you.... I never have motivation on Mondays... regardless of the temperatures... I hope it gets warmer and nicer! Is it at least sunny? |
| 2021-02-08 1:18 PM in reply to: Micawber |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatees Dooo Eeeet!!! Originally posted by Micawber I'm finding it tough to get motivated today. The morning temps here were -27C, about -16 or -17 in F. Colder further north too. The furnace is turned up but there's still cold corners and the treadmill is in the basement. Hard to shake the chill. (whine finished) That's a bit chilly! |
| 2021-02-08 1:52 PM in reply to: Micawber |
Champion 14677 Bronze member | Subject: RE: Manatees Dooo Eeeet!!! Originally posted by MicawberI'm finding it tough to get motivated today. The morning temps here were -27C, about -16 or -17 in F. Colder further north too. The furnace is turned up but there's still cold corners and the treadmill is in the basement. Hard to shake the chill. (whine finished) Nope, no.. just no! |
| 2021-02-08 3:14 PM in reply to: marysia83 |
| Lethbridge, Alberta Bronze member | Subject: RE: Manatees Dooo Eeeet!!! Originally posted by marysia83 Originally posted by Micawber I'm finding it tough to get motivated today. The morning temps here were -27C, about -16 or -17 in F. Colder further north too. The furnace is turned up but there's still cold corners and the treadmill is in the basement. Hard to shake the chill. (whine finished) Ugh... I feel you.... I never have motivation on Mondays... regardless of the temperatures... I hope it gets warmer and nicer! Is it at least sunny? It is sunny! |
| 2021-02-08 4:00 PM in reply to: Johanne |
| Lethbridge, Alberta Bronze member | Subject: RE: Manatees Dooo Eeeet!!! Originally posted by Johanne ...snip... I have never biked on Maui, only hiked in the crater of Haleakala (the big volcano), but I remember a group of tourists coming down in big bulky jumpsuits on battered bikes to do a "sunrise ride" down the volcano. I have biked down from Kilauea summit here on BI, though. Does cadence matter in the beginning or should I just follow my natural flow? I'm running at around 148 spm, which I know is slow, but I'm in HR zone 4 most of the time, so I don't feel like stepping it up. Perhaps this will change once I get more running-fit, but is it something I should consciously work on? Most of the "tours" drive people up to the park gates at about 6500 ft and let them coast down from there. There's some rule about commercial use of the park. The place I found, Maui Cyclery in Paia at sea level, rents out the bike to ride up the mountain. Once a week they guide a climb, with a truck as a rolling aid station for a few pit stops. Their truck support stops below the park gates too but as a private citizen you can buy a park pass and keep climbing. Cadence: I'm currently just getting back into running and my turnover is about the same rate as yours, so far. A common recommendation is to aim for 180 steps per minute. That's also 90 steps with one foot on the same side or 90 rpm on a bicycle. The timing is easy to track if you count steps with one foot, say the right, for a few seconds. 15 steps with one foot in 10 seconds is 180 per minute. That's just a recommendation though, individual people vary. From my previous running, I worked on turnover speed with a few techniques. Focusing on bike turnover helps because it's moving your legs at the same rate and many bike computers will show your rpm. Try running on the spot too and see what that rate feels like. That takes running speed right out of the equation. There are a number of hillside pathways in my town with steps on them. If it's an option, try going down steps as fast as you can move your feet. Just be careful with that one though. |
| 2021-02-08 5:06 PM in reply to: Johanne |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Manatees Dooo Eeeet!!! Originally posted by Johanne This is awesome! Thanks for all the great advice! What is the strava group called - Manatees? I find it so interesting that most of this I can relate to on the bike, so I'll try to transfer that to my running as well. It is pretty hilly here in Hilo, but the ocean front area and beach park road is flat and scenic - and would be great for mixing things up. I really like all the suggestions of creativity and fun, and it would be such a great challenge to run all the roads in my area, once I get a little more stamina and can tackle all the hills up here. Perhaps I should also give trail running a go. It seems so appealing to me, but I've been hesitant as I've sprained my ankles more times than I care to admit. For me it is definitely important not to get too bored - at least while I'm still building a decent base, as I know from the treadmill that boredom will make me quit too soon. I have never biked on Maui, only hiked in the crater of Haleakala (the big volcano), but I remember a group of tourists coming down in big bulky jumpsuits on battered bikes to do a "sunrise ride" down the volcano. I have biked down from Kilauea summit here on BI, though. Does cadence matter in the beginning or should I just follow my natural flow? I'm running at around 148 spm, which I know is slow, but I'm in HR zone 4 most of the time, so I don't feel like stepping it up. Perhaps this will change once I get more running-fit, but is it something I should consciously work on? My short answer is yes, you should work to get that cadence up. You will need a faster turnover to get faster, but more importantly, I've read that slower cadences can lead to more injury bc what is happening is probably your stride length is too long. I have a naturally pretty high cadence, but when i find myself feeling sluggish or slow i repeat the mantra "quick feet, little feet". That brings the cadence up and my stride feels a lot better. A good way to get your cadence up is to practice hitting a 30 steps/10 seconds target for at least two out of every 10 minutes of running. Gradually increase the amount of time you spend running at the proper cadence until it feels more natural.
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