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 2009-02-25 12:19 PM in reply to: #1981058 |
Extreme Veteran  362   BAHRAIN |  Subject: RE: C'mon, was 80s music REALLY that bad?the bear - 2009-02-25 9:49 AM Maybe if you focus on the mainstreet carp it seems pretty bad, but off the top of my head here are fifteen great albums that came out of the 80s:
amen, brother! Edited by antti asu 2009-02-25 12:21 PM |
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Champion 6056  Menomonee Falls, WI | Subject: RE: C'mon, was 80s music REALLY that bad? D.Z. - 2009-02-25 12:07 PM The new millemium is a lost decade as far as the stock market is concerned. The 80's was a lost decade as far as music is concerned. 70's had GREAT music, and the 90's had GREAT music. Synthesizer were born in the 80's, but didn't mature until the 90's when samplers came around. Look at the world of music that opened when people started started combining samplers with synthesizers, vinyl records, and new ways of creating and reproducing sound. DJ's reached their creative prime. Seriously - listen to some Big Beat (Crystal Method), drum 'n bass/jungle (GOLDIE), trip hop (TRICKY), and hard core (THE PRODIGY) and the creativity is overwhelming. This stuff had never been done before. The 80's lacked that. The hair bands killed it. Interesting you should note these bands, considering they would not be around without the likes of such '80s electronic bands as: Kraftwerk The Human League Depeche Mode Ultravox Gary Numan Thomas Dolby '80's-era Bowie |
| 2009-02-25 12:28 PM in reply to: #1981398 |
| Subject: RE: C'mon, was 80s music REALLY that bad? scoobysdad - 2009-02-25 1:22 PM Interesting you should note these bands, considering they would not be around without the likes of such '80s electronic bands as: Kraftwerk The Human League Depeche Mode Ultravox Gary Numan Thomas Dolby '80's-era Bowie NOW you're talking my language. Don't forget Yaz in there too  Of course, I'm still hooked on: Led Zepplin The Who Black Sabbath (with Ozzy) Queen and similar. Yeah, '60s-'70s music. The '80s stuff reminds me too much of disco and the skating rink in HS |
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Elite 3022 Preferably on my bike somewhere | Subject: RE: C'mon, was 80s music REALLY that bad? scoobysdad - 2009-02-25 1:22 PM D.Z. - 2009-02-25 12:07 PM The new millemium is a lost decade as far as the stock market is concerned. The 80's was a lost decade as far as music is concerned. 70's had GREAT music, and the 90's had GREAT music. Synthesizer were born in the 80's, but didn't mature until the 90's when samplers came around. Look at the world of music that opened when people started started combining samplers with synthesizers, vinyl records, and new ways of creating and reproducing sound. DJ's reached their creative prime. Seriously - listen to some Big Beat (Crystal Method), drum 'n bass/jungle (GOLDIE), trip hop (TRICKY), and hard core (THE PRODIGY) and the creativity is overwhelming. This stuff had never been done before. The 80's lacked that. The hair bands killed it. Interesting you should note these bands, considering they would not be around without the likes of such '80s electronic bands as: Kraftwerk The Human League Depeche Mode Ultravox Gary Numan Thomas Dolby '80's-era Bowie I won't disagree with that. EDIT: I won't entirely agree with it simply because the tools changed so drastically in the early 90's. A complete upsetting of the applecart was inevitable, and to take nothing away from the creative works of the folks you listed, I don't think the bands I listed are really standing on the shoulders of giants. Not like modern rock with Led Zeppelin, and the like. I was never a fan of the folks you listed. It wasn't until the 90's that the sound matured into what it became. But the tools weren't up to the task. Digital technology opened up a lot of doors that didn't exist before. The sampler is probably the most important addition to music since the electric guitar. Seriously - ever used a sampler before? Truly amazing tool with few limits. They've largely been replaced by the computer, but the idea is the same. The 80's were still a lost decade. Edited by D.Z. 2009-02-25 12:35 PM |
| 2009-02-25 12:38 PM in reply to: #1981411 |
Champion 6056 Menomonee Falls, WI | Subject: RE: C'mon, was 80s music REALLY that bad? DanielG - 2009-02-25 12:28 PM Don't forget Yaz in there too Okay, but Yaz was actually a spinoff from Depeche Mode. Vince Clarke founded, and for a while was the primary songwriter, for DM before splitting off and hooking up with Alison Moyet to form Yaz. Of course, Clarke also went on to form Erasure in the later 80's. |
| 2009-02-25 12:40 PM in reply to: #1981429 |
| Subject: RE: C'mon, was 80s music REALLY that bad? scoobysdad - 2009-02-25 1:38 PM DanielG - 2009-02-25 12:28 PM Don't forget Yaz in there too Okay, but Yaz was actually a spinoff from Depeche Mode. Vince Clarke founded, and for a while was the primary songwriter, for DM before splitting off and hooking up with Alison Moyet to form Yaz. Of course, Clarke also went on to form Erasure in the later 80's. Half of it was. I just remember wearing out a tape of one side DM and one side Yaz. Wore out two copies of The Wall, though |
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Resident Curmudgeon 25290 The Road Back Gold member | Subject: RE: C'mon, was 80s music REALLY that bad? AcesFull - 2009-02-25 1:04 PM the bear - 2009-02-25 9:49 AM Maybe if you focus on the mainstreet carp it seems pretty bad, but off the top of my head here are fifteen great albums that came out of the 80s:
Bear, you left out Rush. Can't imagine why. Didn't come close to meeting the criteria. They did release their only decent album in the 80s, but it's like miles from great. |
| 2009-02-25 1:55 PM in reply to: #1980929 |
Champion 10668 Tacoma, Washington | Subject: RE: C'mon, was 80s music REALLY that bad? Just a couple weeks ago I made my first EVER karaoke CD purchases... All '80s rock. Long live big hair and spandex! |
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| Iron Donkey 38643 , Wisconsin | Subject: RE: C'mon, was 80s music REALLY that bad? crowny2 - 2009-02-25 11:42 AM 1stTimeTri - 2009-02-25 9:46 AM If you want REAL hairband/Masters of Metal stuff, come on over to my house. I have a couple of boxes of cassettes ready to be converted over to MP3. For starters: That "alternative" scene didn't take with me, but I still like "Sugar Kisses" (good tune) by Echo and the Bunnymen. A metal head after my own heart. Mine also includes/included - Testament, Anthrax, Voi Vod (those guys were weird but good), DRI (Dirty Rotten Imbicels), Napalm Death, Megadeath, Yngwie Malmsteen (just one wicked guitarist), Tony MacAlpine (Another wicked guitarist), Slayer, and of course the glam bands of Def Leppard, Poison, Ratt, Night Ranger. Heh. You and I get together and bad things could happen. Like "Hey, Dude, you remember where I parked my car since MY short term memory has gone?" or "Man, I wish this arthritic-feeling in my neck would dissipate for an hour so we can headbang some."? |
), Ozzy, Helix, Axe, Saxon, Armored Saint, Triumph, etc. ...| 2009-02-25 2:03 PM in reply to: #1981027 |
| Champion 6786 Two seat rocket plane | Subject: RE: C'mon, was 80s music REALLY that bad? the bear - 2009-02-25 9:49 AM Maybe if you focus on the mainstreet carp it seems pretty bad, but off the top of my head here are fifteen great albums that came out of the 80s:
I'd add
edit(remove Rain dogs. Bear had that already) Edited by ride_like_u_stole_it 2009-02-25 2:08 PM |
| 2009-02-25 2:25 PM in reply to: #1980929 |
| Champion 6931 Bellingham, Washington | Subject: RE: C'mon, was 80s music REALLY that bad? Thompson Twins Lay Your Hands on Me. |
| 2009-02-25 2:44 PM in reply to: #1980929 |
Master 2495 Atlanta, Georgia Silver member | Subject: RE: C'mon, was 80s music REALLY that bad? I was living in a world of college radio in the 80's and while the way majority of what we played has been lost to the ages, I can state without hesitation that there was PLENTY of great stuff to listen to. Just alternative coming from the south would fill a couple of threads... Point may be that every decade is mostly made up of worthless cr@p with a huge supply of really good stuff that you have to go looking for. |
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| Champion 15211 Southern Chicago Suburbs, IL | Subject: RE: C'mon, was 80s music REALLY that bad? 1stTimeTri - 2009-02-25 2:01 PM crowny2 - 2009-02-25 11:42 AM 1stTimeTri - 2009-02-25 9:46 AM If you want REAL hairband/Masters of Metal stuff, come on over to my house. I have a couple of boxes of cassettes ready to be converted over to MP3. For starters: That "alternative" scene didn't take with me, but I still like "Sugar Kisses" (good tune) by Echo and the Bunnymen. A metal head after my own heart. Mine also includes/included - Testament, Anthrax, Voi Vod (those guys were weird but good), DRI (Dirty Rotten Imbicels), Napalm Death, Megadeath, Yngwie Malmsteen (just one wicked guitarist), Tony MacAlpine (Another wicked guitarist), Slayer, and of course the glam bands of Def Leppard, Poison, Ratt, Night Ranger. Heh. You and I get together and bad things could happen. Like "Hey, Dude, you remember where I parked my car since MY short term memory has gone?" or "Man, I wish this arthritic-feeling in my neck would dissipate for an hour so we can headbang some."? Heh! Probably the second. |
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| Extreme Veteran 362 BAHRAIN | Subject: RE: C'mon, was 80s music REALLY that bad? D.Z. - 2009-02-25 9:31 PM scoobysdad - 2009-02-25 1:22 PM I won't disagree with that. EDIT: I won't entirely agree with it simply because the tools changed so drastically in the early 90's. A complete upsetting of the applecart was inevitable, and to take nothing away from the creative works of the folks you listed, I don't think the bands I listed are really standing on the shoulders of giants. Not like modern rock with Led Zeppelin, and the like. I was never a fan of the folks you listed. It wasn't until the 90's that the sound matured into what it became. But the tools weren't up to the task. Digital technology opened up a lot of doors that didn't exist before. The sampler is probably the most important addition to music since the electric guitar. Seriously - ever used a sampler before? Truly amazing tool with few limits. They've largely been replaced by the computer, but the idea is the same. The 80's were still a lost decade. D.Z. - 2009-02-25 12:07 PM The new millemium is a lost decade as far as the stock market is concerned. The 80's was a lost decade as far as music is concerned. 70's had GREAT music, and the 90's had GREAT music. Synthesizer were born in the 80's, but didn't mature until the 90's when samplers came around. Look at the world of music that opened when people started started combining samplers with synthesizers, vinyl records, and new ways of creating and reproducing sound. DJ's reached their creative prime. Seriously - listen to some Big Beat (Crystal Method), drum 'n bass/jungle (GOLDIE), trip hop (TRICKY), and hard core (THE PRODIGY) and the creativity is overwhelming. This stuff had never been done before. The 80's lacked that. The hair bands killed it. Interesting you should note these bands, considering they would not be around without the likes of such '80s electronic bands as: Kraftwerk The Human League Depeche Mode Ultravox Gary Numan Thomas Dolby '80's-era Bowie ...and others who paved the way for all electronic music to follow. red hot chili peppers? lost? (yes they were in 80s, but the music!) |
| 2009-02-25 3:05 PM in reply to: #1981559 |
| Extreme Veteran 362 BAHRAIN | Subject: RE: C'mon, was 80s music REALLY that bad? the bear - 2009-02-25 10:40 PM AcesFull - 2009-02-25 1:04 PM the bear - 2009-02-25 9:49 AM Maybe if you focus on the mainstreet carp it seems pretty bad, but off the top of my head here are fifteen great albums that came out of the 80s:
Bear, you left out Rush. Can't imagine why. Didn't come close to meeting the criteria. They did release their only decent album in the 80s, but it's like miles from great. rhcp again? |
| 2009-02-25 3:20 PM in reply to: #1981743 |
| Elite 3022 Preferably on my bike somewhere | Subject: RE: C'mon, was 80s music REALLY that bad? antti asu - 2009-02-25 4:04 PM D.Z. - 2009-02-25 9:31 PM scoobysdad - 2009-02-25 1:22 PM I won't disagree with that. EDIT: I won't entirely agree with it simply because the tools changed so drastically in the early 90's. A complete upsetting of the applecart was inevitable, and to take nothing away from the creative works of the folks you listed, I don't think the bands I listed are really standing on the shoulders of giants. Not like modern rock with Led Zeppelin, and the like. I was never a fan of the folks you listed. It wasn't until the 90's that the sound matured into what it became. But the tools weren't up to the task. Digital technology opened up a lot of doors that didn't exist before. The sampler is probably the most important addition to music since the electric guitar. Seriously - ever used a sampler before? Truly amazing tool with few limits. They've largely been replaced by the computer, but the idea is the same. The 80's were still a lost decade. D.Z. - 2009-02-25 12:07 PM The new millemium is a lost decade as far as the stock market is concerned. The 80's was a lost decade as far as music is concerned. 70's had GREAT music, and the 90's had GREAT music. Synthesizer were born in the 80's, but didn't mature until the 90's when samplers came around. Look at the world of music that opened when people started started combining samplers with synthesizers, vinyl records, and new ways of creating and reproducing sound. DJ's reached their creative prime. Seriously - listen to some Big Beat (Crystal Method), drum 'n bass/jungle (GOLDIE), trip hop (TRICKY), and hard core (THE PRODIGY) and the creativity is overwhelming. This stuff had never been done before. The 80's lacked that. The hair bands killed it. Interesting you should note these bands, considering they would not be around without the likes of such '80s electronic bands as: Kraftwerk The Human League Depeche Mode Ultravox Gary Numan Thomas Dolby '80's-era Bowie ...and others who paved the way for all electronic music to follow. red hot chili peppers? lost? (yes they were in 80s, but the music!) Something good came out of the The Dark Ages, too, but they were still dark. |
| 2009-02-25 4:57 PM in reply to: #1981360 |
| Expert 810 | Subject: RE: C'mon, was 80s music REALLY that bad? D.Z. - 2009-02-25 12:07 PM The 80s really WAS that bad. The list of good 80's bands is very short. Def Leppard Midnight Oil Van Halen Even good bands like Jethro Tull died in the 80's. Ummmmmm... The rest of the music was shite then and it's shite now. I went to a 80's dance night at a club a few years back and I projectile vomited during most of the show. It caused physical pain. "Come on Eileen" was NEVER A GOOD SONG. DON'T PLAY IT 4 TIMES IN THE COURSE OF ONE EVENING. The new millemium is a lost decade as far as the stock market is concerned. The 80's was a lost decade as far as music is concerned. 70's had GREAT music, and the 90's had GREAT music. Synthesizer were born in the 80's, but didn't mature until the 90's when samplers came around. Look at the world of music that opened when people started started combining samplers with synthesizers, vinyl records, and new ways of creating and reproducing sound. DJ's reached their creative prime. Seriously - listen to some Big Beat (Crystal Method), drum 'n bass/jungle (GOLDIE), trip hop (TRICKY), and hard core (THE PRODIGY) and the creativity is overwhelming. This stuff had never been done before. The 80's lacked that. The hair bands killed it. Blasphemy!!!!!! Seriously though the 80's lacked creativity?Really? Did we both live in the same 90's with its depressing cookie cutter music or did I imagine it? And sampling is the greatest form of musical creativity? I guess I never thought stringing together other peoples music as being terribly creative but thats just me. Edited by Imjin 2009-02-25 4:58 PM |
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| Iron Donkey 38643 , Wisconsin | Subject: RE: C'mon, was 80s music REALLY that bad? scoobysdad - 2009-02-25 9:48 AM 1stTimeTri - 2009-02-25 9:46 AM Um, that's "Lips Like Sugar", Phil! If you want REAL hairband/Masters of Metal stuff, come on over to my house. I have a couple of boxes of cassettes ready to be converted over to MP3. For starters: That "alternative" scene didn't take with me, but I still like "Sugar Kisses" (good tune) by Echo and the Bunnymen. By Echo & The Bunnymen, one of the five greatest bands to ever walk the Earth. Thus the statement "That "alternative" scene didn't take with me..." |
| 2009-02-25 9:39 PM in reply to: #1980960 |
| Pro 6767 the Alabama part of Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: C'mon, was 80s music REALLY that bad? condorman - 2009-02-25 10:24 AM meherczeg - 2009-02-25 10:17 AM you were the one calling it bad. i call it AWESOME! RAD! TOTALLY COOL!!! There is an NPR show about the nonredeemable qualities of 80s music, including a challenge to find a top song from a single artist in the 80s which was better then a song in the 70s. The prime argument for the downfall of music in the 80s is the song "We Built This City."
I had the link in email at my old job - otherwise I'd post the link to the NPR show - it is long, but really entertaining. So the musical genius of "Hot Stuff" ("hot hot hot. Stuff Stuff Stuff" I think I just threw up a little in my mouth just remembering those horrible ear-worms. |
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| Elite 3022 Preferably on my bike somewhere | Subject: RE: C'mon, was 80s music REALLY that bad? gearboy - 2009-02-25 10:39 PM condorman - 2009-02-25 10:24 AM meherczeg - 2009-02-25 10:17 AM you were the one calling it bad. i call it AWESOME! RAD! TOTALLY COOL!!! There is an NPR show about the nonredeemable qualities of 80s music, including a challenge to find a top song from a single artist in the 80s which was better then a song in the 70s. The prime argument for the downfall of music in the 80s is the song "We Built This City."  I had the link in email at my old job - otherwise I'd post the link to the NPR show - it is long, but really entertaining. So the musical genius of "Hot Stuff" ("hot hot hot. Stuff Stuff Stuff") and other disco tripe from the 70's was somehow better than any song of the 80's? I think people who dismiss the 80's music must have skipped the long dry years of my late adolescence. Not to mention the soul-destroying sounds of Muskrat Love ("Muskrat Suzie, Muskrat Sam, Do the jitterbug at a Muskrat Land, And they shimmy, Sam is so skinny), or Copacabana ("Talking Havana have a banana").  And lest you think that disco was just an abberation of the end of the decade, don't forget the 70's started out with that classic we all still love to listen to, "(They long to be) Close to You", by the Carpenters, which spent a full month at #1 on Billboard Top 100!  I think I just threw up a little in my mouth just remembering those horrible ear-worms. Yup - there was some awful 70's music. That doesn't invalidate my point. |
| 2009-02-26 7:10 AM in reply to: #1981018 |
| Elite 2527 Armpit of Ontario | Subject: RE: C'mon, was 80s music REALLY that bad? Today's kids totally listen to my 80's "crap" - my son in 16 and in a couple of bands; one does covers of all the classic metal from the '80s (and some '70s) like Dio, Metallica, Priest, Maiden, Def Leppard, Sabbath, Megadeth, etc. Go into any record store - there's a reason they still stock the classic albums. And the kids also know that Van Halen wrecked music in the '80s.
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| 2009-02-26 8:01 AM in reply to: #1982829 |
| Champion 6056 Menomonee Falls, WI | Subject: RE: C'mon, was 80s music REALLY that bad? I found it very interesting on American Idol last night that half the songs selected by the 20-something (and younger) contestants were from the 80's. I just don't understand how anyone can possibly think the 70s was a better decade for music than the 80's. The 70s only gave us Led Zeppelin and... uhhhhhhhh, ummmmmmm. Hmm. Talk about a black hole for music. The 90s were even worse than the 70s. |
| 2009-02-26 8:01 AM in reply to: #1980929 |
| Champion 15211 Southern Chicago Suburbs, IL | Subject: RE: C'mon, was 80s music REALLY that bad? Just to add to this from a different perspective. Faith No More is reforming. |
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