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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Nothing before training. Yesterday post training meal was 3 eggs scrambled with red peppers, onions, turkey, touch of cheese and a pile of salsa with a corn tortilla. And coffee, lots and lots of coffee. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I gave up breakfast about 2 years ago. Coffee and then Masters or a run and then to work where I have my first food of the day (often Greek yogurt with a bannana and other fruit). |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() bryancd - 2012-05-25 10:27 AM I gave up breakfast about 2 years ago. Coffee and then Masters or a run and then to work where I have my first food of the day (often Greek yogurt with a bannana and other fruit). All that training in a fasted state business helped knock about 15lbs off me.
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() bryancd - 2012-05-25 8:27 AM I gave up breakfast about 2 years ago. Coffee and then Masters or a run and then to work where I have my first food of the day (often Greek yogurt with a bannana and other fruit). Curious Bryan, how about a peak into your daily fueling, especially during a big build period like you just went through with IMSG. I couldn't imagine some of those training mornings you put in and then just rolling into yogurt and a banana after. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() usually: bowl of Kashi go lean at 4am 7am apple 9:30am hard boiled egg
that usually holds me till lunch. I almost never workout in the mornings during the week. If I do I just eat a bowl of kashi 2 hours before workout. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Goosedog - 2012-05-25 8:31 AM bryancd - 2012-05-25 10:27 AM I gave up breakfast about 2 years ago. Coffee and then Masters or a run and then to work where I have my first food of the day (often Greek yogurt with a bannana and other fruit). All that training in a fasted state business helped knock about 15lbs off me.
Yeah, it's amazing how I was able to get rid of the weight I always seemed to not be able to shed. And it's remarkable how much quality training we can do without eating before hand and how few calories we genrally need while training as well. And it's amazing how many people have been scared silly by articles and stuff they read online and never are willing to even give it a try. Edited by bryancd 2012-05-25 9:35 AM |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() A mess of bacon, toast with grape jelly, and a glass of chocolate milk. Modern day ambrosia, 't'is...... |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() bryancd - 2012-05-25 9:34 AM Goosedog - 2012-05-25 8:31 AM Yeah, it's amazing how I was able to get rid of the weight I always seemed to not be able to shed. And it's remarkable how much quality training we can do without eating before hand and how few calories we genrally need while training as well. And it's amazing how many people have been scared silly by articles and stuff they read online and never are willing to even give it a try.bryancd - 2012-05-25 10:27 AM I gave up breakfast about 2 years ago. Coffee and then Masters or a run and then to work where I have my first food of the day (often Greek yogurt with a bannana and other fruit). All that training in a fasted state business helped knock about 15lbs off me.
I've been moving more and more this way as well. But, since I'm up at 4am just to get to work it's hard to get a workout in before. So I have a small snack at 1pm and don't eat again till after workouts. Ends up being 9pm before I eat a small dinner and go to bed. Being a former fat man the biggest challenge to me is curbing "mental" hunger. I spread meals out during the day to do that. I go into workouts hungry, but a quick warm up makes me forget that real quick. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() thebigb - 2012-05-25 8:31 AM bryancd - 2012-05-25 8:27 AM I gave up breakfast about 2 years ago. Coffee and then Masters or a run and then to work where I have my first food of the day (often Greek yogurt with a bannana and other fruit). Curious Bryan, how about a peak into your daily fueling, especially during a big build period like you just went through with IMSG. I couldn't imagine some of those training mornings you put in and then just rolling into yogurt and a banana after. During the week, I do exactly what I wrote in my first post. Up at 4:30am, coffee, head over to the pool for Masters or I would go to my office, review the pre-market open, and then head out for a 60min run that may or may not include intensity. So no pre-training calories and no during training calories during the week. Depending on the intensity or duration of the morning training, I will come back to my office and have yogurt (Greek, plain, and I sweeten it with powdered Stevia) with bannana cut up in it. Or just have a bannana no yougurt if it wasn't a hard morning. Then over the rest of the morning i will have an Apple, an orange, kind of spaced out as I get hungry. Then I have lunch usually around 11:00am. I bring all my food for the week to work with me on Monday. I make a big salad with spinich, baby carrots, cherry tomatoes, chopped bell pepper, onions, avacado, raw brocolli, and either canned chicked or sardines. I top it off with chia seeds and use either olive oil or flax seed oil and balsamic vinigear. I am done with work around 1-2pm and then head home for bike/run training. For that I will take gel's to fuel the training. When i get home I have a liter of Zico coconut water and maybe a few snacks like gluten free crakers or something while I make dinner for me and Jamie. We eat early, like betweem 5-5:30 as I go to bed around 8-8:30. Dinner is usually a protien (chicken/fish/beef..we eat a lot of fish) and a side veggie or two or sweet pototoes. I also do gluten free pasta. Then after dinner I snack on fresh berries and grapes. Oh, a few small glasses of red wine and after dinner I drink diet tonic with lime. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I go to the Breakfast Cafe most days down the street and get the same thing every time..... 2 Eggs, 2 Bacon, Cup of Fruit with Berries, Whole Wheat Toast with jam and a glass of their freshly squeezed OJ.... Sometimes if I'm hungry or if Ashley comes, we'll split a couple pancakes or french toast. If I eat at home, usually a bowl of Joe's O's with Blueberries, banana, strawberries with 2% milk and a glass of OJ.... I eat after morning workout....unless on weekends and I'm going for a long ride. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Goosedog - 2012-05-25 9:31 AM bryancd - 2012-05-25 10:27 AM I gave up breakfast about 2 years ago. Coffee and then Masters or a run and then to work where I have my first food of the day (often Greek yogurt with a bannana and other fruit). All that training in a fasted state business helped knock about 15lbs off me.
I also do the majority of my training in a fasted state. The bulk of my calories come at the end of the day (dinner). During the weekdays, I will have small snacks if I am bonking, but generally take in very few calories then. I am taking in an appropriate # of calories and nutrients, they just happen to be at one end of the day instead of the other. I know folks have issues with it, but truthfully...I am leaner now than I have been in YEARS, and feel better at races and am racing better (with less training, actually) than I have in years as well. Edited by mmrocker13 2012-05-25 10:00 AM |
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![]() | ![]() bryancd - 2012-05-25 9:45 AM thebigb - 2012-05-25 8:31 AM During the week, I do exactly what I wrote in my first post. Up at 4:30am, coffee, head over to the pool for Masters or I would go to my office, review the pre-market open, and then head out for a 60min run that may or may not include intensity. So no pre-training calories and no during training calories during the week. Depending on the intensity or duration of the morning training, I will come back to my office and have yogurt (Greek, plain, and I sweeten it with powdered Stevia) with bannana cut up in it. Or just have a bannana no yougurt if it wasn't a hard morning. Then over the rest of the morning i will have an Apple, an orange, kind of spaced out as I get hungry. Then I have lunch usually around 11:00am. I bring all my food for the week to work with me on Monday. I make a big salad with spinich, baby carrots, cherry tomatoes, chopped bell pepper, onions, avacado, raw brocolli, and either canned chicked or sardines. I top it off with chia seeds and use either olive oil or flax seed oil and balsamic vinigear. I am done with work around 1-2pm and then head home for bike/run training. For that I will take gel's to fuel the training. When i get home I have a liter of Zico coconut water and maybe a few snacks like gluten free crakers or something while I make dinner for me and Jamie. We eat early, like betweem 5-5:30 as I go to bed around 8-8:30. Dinner is usually a protien (chicken/fish/beef..we eat a lot of fish) and a side veggie or two or sweet pototoes. I also do gluten free pasta. Then after dinner I snack on fresh berries and grapes. Oh, a few small glasses of red wine and after dinner I drink diet tonic with lime.bryancd - 2012-05-25 8:27 AM I gave up breakfast about 2 years ago. Coffee and then Masters or a run and then to work where I have my first food of the day (often Greek yogurt with a bannana and other fruit). Curious Bryan, how about a peak into your daily fueling, especially during a big build period like you just went through with IMSG. I couldn't imagine some of those training mornings you put in and then just rolling into yogurt and a banana after. Thanks for posting this... |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() lisac957 - 2012-05-25 9:02 AM bryancd - 2012-05-25 9:45 AM thebigb - 2012-05-25 8:31 AM Thanks for posting this... Do you consistently maintain your weight with a diet like this or do you find yourself losing? Do you know ballpark how many calories/carbs/protein you intake daily? Hi Lisa. ![]() ![]() My weight is pretty consistent now but it used to swing a lot before I really cleaned it up more, cut out breakfast, restricted training calories when appropriate, and going gluten free. I used to swing between 162-172 lbs depending on the time of season and training load. Now I am 158-164, 158 being my race weight. I didn't target that, it's just where I ended up and feel good at that weight. As an almost 44 year old man, even with the training volume I do every year, I need to be very aware of putting on weight. There are overweight people on my Mom's side of the family. I don't use my training as an excuse to eat, I can't if I want to achieve what I want from the sport. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() 2 eggs sandwich w/sprouts. Piece whole wheat toast with sugar free preservatives and three turkey sausage links. Woke up starving after 2x/day yesterday. |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Fried egg sandwhich, OJ, and decaf coffee.....so good. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() There is no way I can workout in the morning on an empty stomach! I feel weak and sometimes get naseous. I have either a pb&j sandwich (potato bread or Italian white bread) or two NutriGrain waffles with butter or a bowl of cold cereal (raisin bran or oatmeal squares). And, like most others, a big mug of coffee. Some of you seem to need less fuel to keep going. For me, training only 45-60 min a day, I have to have a substantial dinner (chicken or steak with pasta or potato and a veggie) and dessert afterwards or I won't be able to sleep due to being too hungry. Dessert is usually a small piece of pie with a scoop of ice cream or a piece of cake or Reese PB cups and Nestle Crunch. Yum! Maybe I have a tapeworm... |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Caroleena - 2012-05-25 11:23 AM There is no way I can workout in the morning on an empty stomach! I felt the same way and wrote something very similar on the first thread I saw advocating training in a fasted state. Like anything else, it took getting used to, but I did.
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![]() | ![]() bryancd - 2012-05-25 10:10 AM Hi Lisa. Thanks for replying - this stuff is fascinating to me. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I think at the end of the day, our bodies are amazingly adaptable machines. So many of the accepted tennants about nutrition have been challenged recently. Hell, they even had to throw out the entire food pyramid I grew up with. Another thing I failed to mention is I take Cod Liver Oil every morning, a big serving spoons worth. Yum. I also have increased my fat consumption using foods like avocado and avacado oil, coconut butter.. I think we tend to focus too much on carbohydrate and ignore healthy fats. I have learned a great deal listening to Ben Greenfield and his nutrition recomendations. Edited by bryancd 2012-05-25 10:41 AM |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Goosedog - 2012-05-25 11:25 AM Caroleena - 2012-05-25 11:23 AM There is no way I can workout in the morning on an empty stomach! I felt the same way and wrote something very similar on the first thread I saw advocating training in a fasted state. Like anything else, it took getting used to, but I did.
Interesting! What is the purpose of training that way though? Does it positively affect speed/performance? I would think it would train the body to subsist on less food, which would decrease basal metabolism. Couldn't imagine purposely training my body to burn less calories! |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Goosedog - 2012-05-25 11:25 AM Caroleena - 2012-05-25 11:23 AM There is no way I can workout in the morning on an empty stomach! I felt the same way and wrote something very similar on the first thread I saw advocating training in a fasted state. Like anything else, it took getting used to, but I did. I'd puke if I ate breakfast before I worked out. I usually eat a banana on my way to the pool and breakfast afterwards. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Goosedog - 2012-05-25 10:25 AM Caroleena - 2012-05-25 11:23 AM There is no way I can workout in the morning on an empty stomach! I felt the same way and wrote something very similar on the first thread I saw advocating training in a fasted state. Like anything else, it took getting used to, but I did.
Word. You get used to it. It's a schedule adjustment. And, honestly, on days that for some reason I DO eat breakfast, I am far hungrier/woodgier at like 10 AM than on days I do not. I actually didn't realize there were articles about this...I don't talk much about it, b/c I always get the dirty looks from people (the YOU NEED TO EAT A BIG BREAKFAST OR YOU WILL DIE OR GET FAT sort of looks). Huh. Interesting to see other folks do it, too. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Caroleena - 2012-05-25 10:40 AM Goosedog - 2012-05-25 11:25 AM Caroleena - 2012-05-25 11:23 AM There is no way I can workout in the morning on an empty stomach! I felt the same way and wrote something very similar on the first thread I saw advocating training in a fasted state. Like anything else, it took getting used to, but I did.
Interesting! What is the purpose of training that way though? Does it positively affect speed/performance? I would think it would train the body to subsist on less food, which would decrease basal metabolism. Couldn't imagine purposely training my body to burn less calories!
you can't teach your body to burn less calories, it's a measure of energy. You can train your body to process fuels differently. You'll always burn the same calories |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Caroleena - 2012-05-25 9:40 AM Goosedog - 2012-05-25 11:25 AM Caroleena - 2012-05-25 11:23 AM There is no way I can workout in the morning on an empty stomach! I felt the same way and wrote something very similar on the first thread I saw advocating training in a fasted state. Like anything else, it took getting used to, but I did.
Interesting! What is the purpose of training that way though? Does it positively affect speed/performance? I would think it would train the body to subsist on less food, which would decrease basal metabolism. Couldn't imagine purposely training my body to burn less calories! Here's the concept: You wake up with a liver filled with glycogen which is sufficient to fuel training at moderate intensity for at least 45min if not more. You also have stored energy in the form of fat not matter how lean you are. When you eat first, it stimulates your glycogen levels and your body immediately begins to use that blood sugar you just provided to fuel. And then while trianing if you take a gel or sport drink, you continue to fule that system. What you are not doing is allowing your body to begin to tulize fat for fuel as that system has been over ridden byu the carbohydrate system. By not eating and traing at a moderat eeffort for a moserate duration with no additional calories. your body has no choice but to use fat, thus becoming more fat efficient. That can help you loose weight and provides your body with a much more flexible energy utilization system. Foir a race, I eat before and during as I want fast burning carbohydrate but not in training, at leat not all the time. I will eat first if I have a very intense workout to do ot if I am going long and want to work hard. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() you can't teach your body to burn less calories, it's a measure of energy. You can train your body to process fuels differently. You'll always burn the same calories Actually, that's not true (that you'll always burn the same calories). You can increase/decrease your basal metabolism by undereating. Your body thinks its going into starvation mode and thus decreases its calorie burn to compensate. So yes, to a degree you can stoke or depress your metabolism. |
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