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 2009-12-18 5:52 PM in reply to: #2567548 |
Master  1952     Guelph, Ontario |  Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSEDkickitinok - 2009-12-18 4:20 PM Holy cow this group posts a lot! I was trying to catch-up on the four pages posted since last night, and during this there was an add'l one page of posts added! Haha! Awesome to have such an active team! When is this virtual tri? Just remember that I am a true beginner in swim and run, and I don't want anyone to lose because of me! On a positive note, my swim is getting better. Head position and breathing still leave a lot to be desired, but I'm able to swim further and longer in between rests already....after only three weeks of training. Still looking for a local OWS before Lone Star. There are no losers in our virtual tri. Just varying degrees of success. I f you come out of it with a PB then you win. I f you compete and don't get a PB then you win. It all about having some fun while training. and of course the trash talk that goes with it and the win |
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| 2 | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED Edited by LuLuBell902 2009-12-18 6:32 PM |
| 2009-12-18 6:33 PM in reply to: #2567958 |
Pro 4100 Wherever the trail takes me, WA. | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED |
| 2009-12-18 6:38 PM in reply to: #2567959 |
Member 85 Keller, Tx | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED swbkrun - 2009-12-18 6:33 PM LuLuBell902 - 2009-12-18 4:31 PM Welcome!! Sorry Birdy...I did not rtealize I was logged into BT with my wife's account! Trifrog93-Robert |
| 2009-12-18 6:40 PM in reply to: #2567964 |
Pro 4100 Wherever the trail takes me, WA. | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED TriFrog93 - 2009-12-18 4:38 PM swbkrun - 2009-12-18 6:33 PM LuLuBell902 - 2009-12-18 4:31 PM Welcome!! Sorry Birdy...I did not rtealize I was logged into BT with my wife's account! Trifrog93-Robert You were her 1st post! Is she proud of you! To all--- Have a great weekend! |
| 2009-12-18 6:45 PM in reply to: #2567342 |
Member 85 Keller, Tx | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED ashort33 - 2009-12-18 1:47 PM TriFrog93 - 2009-12-18 11:44 AM ashort33 - 2009-12-18 10:43 AM Swim training question: I am trying to figure out the best way to train for the swim. I get one day a week of drills with my TNT group; however, I still have two or three other swim sessions to get in each week. I was thinking of doing one workout as a distance swim - anywhere from 1200-2000 yds easy swim; the other I was thinking of keeping it short and working on speed - you know the whole 10x50 and 10x100 type stuff. Does that make sense? Also, what to do about the fourth workout in a week? Intermediate distance maybe (5 x400 or the like) or should I work on othe weak parts of my swim (sighting, billateral breathing, etc...)? If Lone Star is your first A race of the year then I would not worry about doing any speedwork at this point. If your TNT group is focusing on drills I would do those same drills in your other workouts for the next few weeks. Work on your body roll, head postion, etc. You will see greater/quicker improvement by working on your stroke than you would by doing 5x400 with an in-efficient stroke. If you want to do some longer swims you can...just mix the drills into the longer swim( maybe a 400 doing a 100 of your four fav drills.)As your stroke begins to improve you can then start to add some longer swims(w/o drills) and intervals (10x50s/10x100s). When you add the intervals I would start with longer rest b/w repeats (so you can maintain your stroke) then steadly decrease the rest over a few weeks, as long as you can maintain your stroke. Long story short...focus on your stroke to become more effecient...which will lead to becoming faster. Robert Actually I think it will be my second A race of the year - first should be in Hawaii at Lavaman... (if I can raise enough funds for TNT). Did you used to swim competitively? I saw one of your goals was to be first out of the water - you got to be a great swimmer to do that... Andy--I did swim in college and coached club swimming for 15 years...haven't been coaching for about 6 years. Stroke work was always a big part of the beginning of the season both as a swimmer and a coach. John--I think Andy and I are about 40 minutes apart...like driving from Katy to Kingwood. Robert Edited by TriFrog93 2009-12-18 6:46 PM |
| 2009-12-18 7:07 PM in reply to: #2567468 |
Champion 7163 Verona WI--Ironman Bike Country! | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED Tobey91 - 2009-12-18 2:42 PM losta - 2009-12-18 3:30 PM When will we have the virtual sprint tri? DougRob - 2009-12-18 12:27 PM With 23 new members and 90% of the 09 mg returning, we should have a lot more teams for our virtual sprint triathlon this year. For the new members, we broke in to 4 teams last year and each swam a given numner of yards, ran 5K and biked 12 miles. We then averaged the results for each team to determine the winner. Treadmill runs and trainer rides did NOT count. Pool swims were ok. Team number 1 won it all, although the 5K run killed me and went downhill from there for the season. But with marathon training well underway maybe I can post a reasonable number without killing myself for the following weeks. Doug Yes. When will this take place? Looking forward to it ... I remain really impressed by the exchanges -- both in terms of support and in terms of sheer volume -- among this group. William Check out a couple of the articles from Infinit, primarily calculating run calorie needs and osmolality. I was able to calculate my nutritional requirements for events really well using those two articles. Not only is the number of calories critical, but the timing and the make-up....get too many simple sugars and you could have big GI Issues to worry about. Everyone is different, so experiment during training. Let me know if you have any questions. By the way, I am not necessarily pushing Infinit. I like it for marathons, but don't use it for triathlon. Suzy |
| 2009-12-18 8:09 PM in reply to: #2555972 |
Master 1497 Maryland | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED When is our virtual sprint tri? That sounds fun and it will be good for motivation! Suzy, thanks for sharing your nutritional knowledge. I will be asking you questions about that as I increase distances this year. |
| 2009-12-18 8:15 PM in reply to: #2555972 |
Champion 7163 Verona WI--Ironman Bike Country! | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED If we do another virtual tri, the gimp in the group needs a running alternative......ain't going backwards after 6 weeks of no running. |
| 2009-12-18 8:57 PM in reply to: #2567997 |
Extreme Veteran 333 | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED William Check out a couple of the articles from Infinit, primarily calculating run calorie needs and osmolality. I was able to calculate my nutritional requirements for events really well using those two articles. Not only is the number of calories critical, but the timing and the make-up....get too many simple sugars and you could have big GI Issues to worry about. Everyone is different, so experiment during training. Let me know if you have any questions. By the way, I am not necessarily pushing Infinit. I like it for marathons, but don't use it for triathlon. Suzy Suzy: That information was great. Definitely gives me a starting point for managing my nutrition in a more systematic way. I am going to start experimenting with it this weekend (unfortunately on a treadmill and trainer because of the snow storm hitting us). I really appreciate it. Have a great weekend. -William |
| 2009-12-18 10:14 PM in reply to: #2568097 |
Expert 762 San Antonio, TX | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED Tobey91 - 2009-12-18 8:57 PM William Check out a couple of the articles from Infinit, primarily calculating run calorie needs and osmolality. I was able to calculate my nutritional requirements for events really well using those two articles. Not only is the number of calories critical, but the timing and the make-up....get too many simple sugars and you could have big GI Issues to worry about. Everyone is different, so experiment during training. Let me know if you have any questions. By the way, I am not necessarily pushing Infinit. I like it for marathons, but don't use it for triathlon. Suzy Suzy: That information was great. Definitely gives me a starting point for managing my nutrition in a more systematic way. I am going to start experimenting with it this weekend (unfortunately on a treadmill and trainer because of the snow storm hitting us). I really appreciate it. Have a great weekend. -William
I use Infinit on the bike mostly. Even used it for the IM. Best tasting stuff out there and I love not needing to take Endurolytes too. Everything all together makes it simple. It's a good idea to have different formulas for the different race distances if you change it up a lot. |
| 2009-12-18 10:23 PM in reply to: #2567814 |
Master 1478 Horseheads, NY | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED kkcbelle - 2009-12-18 5:55 PM ashort33 - 2009-12-18 10:43 AM Swim training question: I am trying to figure out the best way to train for the swim. I get one day a week of drills with my TNT group; however, I still have two or three other swim sessions to get in each week. I was thinking of doing one workout as a distance swim - anywhere from 1200-2000 yds easy swim; the other I was thinking of keeping it short and working on speed - you know the whole 10x50 and 10x100 type stuff. Does that make sense? Also, what to do about the fourth workout in a week? Intermediate distance maybe (5 x400 or the like) or should I work on othe weak parts of my swim (sighting, billateral breathing, etc...)? I've been a swimmer for a gazillion years, which either makes me qualified to answer this or makes my answers irrelevant because I don't have typical swimming issues!! But when I am swimming I always mix up everything in workouts. I do a nice long warm-up set with swim/kick/pull (usually something like 500 swim, 200 kick w/board, 300 pull). Then I sort-of go with my mood but I'll often have a set of drills, a set of 50's or 100's, and if I want to up the yardage I'll do a longer set of 200's to 400's. One of my favorite things to do is some kind of a ladder, either mixing in kick/pull/drill or speed differences. Example: 25 kick 50 drill 75 pull 100 fast (and then go back down) Or 50 swim moderate 100 with 50 drill/50 perfect stroke 150 with 50 easy/50 fast/50 easy (or 50 drill/50 perfect/50 fast) 200 fast (or go 100 perfect/100 fast or whatever) (and then go back down) You can do all sorts of ladder variations -- I think they're fun. You can totally play around with it and keep 'em short or really long (100-200-300-400-300-200-100 = 1600 yards; repeat the 400 and it's 2K [duh]). I like these work outs...just need to find that perfect stroke! If you could describe it, that would be great!  |
| 2009-12-18 10:36 PM in reply to: #2555972 |
Champion 5522 Frisco, TX | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED Team chart - maybe - there's a bunch of people on it. Ya'll make sure it is right. PM me with any mistakes and I will fix and post final version on Monday...
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| 2009-12-19 12:14 AM in reply to: #2566187 |
Master 1632 Almost Canada, WA | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED trying1 - 2009-12-18 2:22 AM Redknight - 2009-12-18 8:11 AM True but at least the Raiders have won a championship within 30 yrs. Cleveland hasn't won a single championship since 1964! Unless you count indoor soccer, and that was in the mid 80's. Happychick - 2009-12-18 12:43 AM trying1 - 2009-12-17 3:00 PM I'm originally from Cleveland as well. My son has all the Cleveland gear too.. I'm still a die-hard Cleveland sports fan (unfortunately) and always have my heart ripped out. My wife thinks Cleveland sports is forever doomed.. Yeah, you and me both! It's sad 'cuz they have such a die hard fan following. My hubby is the same way. He made sure to tell everyone that it was ME who picked Sam's outfit...personally I think he's a closet fan though!  So, where are you from exactly? I grew up and still have family in the Painesville area but claim Cleveland since no one else knows where Painesville is! You talk about die hard fans. I've been a Raider fan about 30 years. It's kinda like cheering for the Maple Leafs up here. Every once in a while they win one they weren't supposed to and keep you coming back. No, the Cavs and Indians just keep taking us to the brink making us all think they might actually make it and then it never fails...our hopes are crushed! |
| 2009-12-19 12:27 AM in reply to: #2568192 |
Master 1632 Almost Canada, WA | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED ashort33 - 2009-12-18 5:36 PM Team chart - maybe - there's a bunch of people on it. Ya'll make sure it is right. PM me with any mistakes and I will fix and post final version on Monday...
Hey Andy, you rock and the chart is awesome but is it me or do the links not work to our individual blogs?! |
| 2009-12-19 6:14 AM in reply to: #2555972 |
Champion 6973 marietta | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED Thanks Andy! |
| 2009-12-19 6:28 AM in reply to: #2568253 |
Master 1675 Suwanee, Ga. | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED Happychick - 2009-12-19 1:27 AM ashort33 - 2009-12-18 5:36 PM Team chart - maybe - there's a bunch of people on it. Ya'll make sure it is right. PM me with any mistakes and I will fix and post final version on Monday...
Hey Andy, you rock and the chart is awesome but is it me or do the links not work to our individual blogs?! Nope...it is not just you. Mine don't work either. But thanks Andy for putting this together. Steve |
| 2009-12-19 7:26 AM in reply to: #2567889 |
Champion 9060 Charlottesville, Virginia | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED Doug, Tracey, you guys getting all this snow too? 6-12 inches now and the heavy stuff is supposed to start this afternoon. |
| 2009-12-19 7:33 AM in reply to: #2555972 |
Elite 3395 Raleigh | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED |
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Master 1952 Guelph, Ontario | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED gdale - 2009-12-18 11:23 PM kkcbelle - 2009-12-18 5:55 PM ashort33 - 2009-12-18 10:43 AM Swim training question: I am trying to figure out the best way to train for the swim. I get one day a week of drills with my TNT group; however, I still have two or three other swim sessions to get in each week. I was thinking of doing one workout as a distance swim - anywhere from 1200-2000 yds easy swim; the other I was thinking of keeping it short and working on speed - you know the whole 10x50 and 10x100 type stuff. Does that make sense? Also, what to do about the fourth workout in a week? Intermediate distance maybe (5 x400 or the like) or should I work on othe weak parts of my swim (sighting, billateral breathing, etc...)? I've been a swimmer for a gazillion years, which either makes me qualified to answer this or makes my answers irrelevant because I don't have typical swimming issues!! But when I am swimming I always mix up everything in workouts. I do a nice long warm-up set with swim/kick/pull (usually something like 500 swim, 200 kick w/board, 300 pull). Then I sort-of go with my mood but I'll often have a set of drills, a set of 50's or 100's, and if I want to up the yardage I'll do a longer set of 200's to 400's. One of my favorite things to do is some kind of a ladder, either mixing in kick/pull/drill or speed differences. Example: 25 kick 50 drill 75 pull 100 fast (and then go back down) Or 50 swim moderate 100 with 50 drill/50 perfect stroke 150 with 50 easy/50 fast/50 easy (or 50 drill/50 perfect/50 fast) 200 fast (or go 100 perfect/100 fast or whatever) (and then go back down) You can do all sorts of ladder variations -- I think they're fun. You can totally play around with it and keep 'em short or really long (100-200-300-400-300-200-100 = 1600 yards; repeat the 400 and it's 2K [duh]). I like these work outs...just need to find that perfect stroke! If you could describe it, that would be great! He George the perfect stroke would probably go something like this. Stroke stroke stroke breathe. repeat as required |
| 2009-12-19 7:49 AM in reply to: #2568354 |
Master 1952 Guelph, Ontario | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED dalessit - 2009-12-19 8:26 AM Doug, Tracey, you guys getting all this snow too? 6-12 inches now and the heavy stuff is supposed to start this afternoon. Wow snow in NC. Has all traffic stopped, schools and businesses closed for the next week |
| 2009-12-19 8:44 AM in reply to: #2555972 |
Expert 762 San Antonio, TX | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED You guys can rub it in, in August but right now we are expecting sunny and 65-68 for the next couple of days. Rode outside for the first time in weeks yesterday and it was BEAUTIFUL! Get those videos out. |
| 2009-12-19 9:23 AM in reply to: #2568441 |
Champion 6973 marietta | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED tri-chic - 2009-12-19 8:44 AM You guys can rub it in, in August but right now we are expecting sunny and 65-68 for the next couple of days. Rode outside for the first time in weeks yesterday and it was BEAUTIFUL! Get those videos out. roger that. just in from a nice 14 mile run. |
| 2009-12-19 9:44 AM in reply to: #2568477 |
Master 1675 Suwanee, Ga. | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED fattyfatfat - 2009-12-19 10:23 AM tri-chic - 2009-12-19 8:44 AM You guys can rub it in, in August but right now we are expecting sunny and 65-68 for the next couple of days. Rode outside for the first time in weeks yesterday and it was BEAUTIFUL! Get those videos out. roger that. just in from a nice 14 mile run. Great job on the run today....send some of that warm weather east to the Atl. my friend. BTW....LOVE the Christmas With the Family song in your sig line....reminds me of my childhood. Steve |
| 2009-12-19 10:44 AM in reply to: #2568477 |
Master 1497 Maryland | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN- Miles and Miles ahead!!!! CLOSED fattyfatfat - 2009-12-19 9:23 AM tri-chic - 2009-12-19 8:44 AM roger that. just in from a nice 14 mile run. I am so jealous, had to spend 2 hours on the treadmill to get the long run in ....up to 2 feet of snow in Terp land. |
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