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2010-08-30 1:58 PM
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All this excitement surrounding Chris's courageous performance in near 100F conditions, got me thinking.....what's the one piece of advice or cool phrase  or whatever you would share with those of us on deck????  I kinda dug Kyla's little Dorry quote for Chris yesterday....when the going gets tough, it's nice to reflect on the gang and what they have to offer.....

And John and Trevor, please no nudy photos like you sent me last time Wink!


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tri-chic - 2010-08-30 11:54 AM

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badgerintx - 2010-08-30 8:34 AM
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kkcbelle - 2010-08-29 7:13 PM

CHRIS DILL, YOU ARE AN  

IRONMAN!!!!!!!

Congratulations!!!!



X2 57!! CONGRATS!


x258.  I can't wait to read this RR.  It sounded like the weather was brutal Sunday! 


x259  congrats! can't wait to hear how it felt to cross the finish line..

 

X 1 more Chis.  CONGRATS!!! Enjoy recovery and eat up!!!

That is pure awesomeness Chris!  time a million on the great job!

2010-08-30 2:31 PM
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gotta run - 2010-08-30 12:29 PM and there it is - my first double post!

But a good chance to say hello to all! I'm hopelessly behind after a largely internet-free trip to Oregon (they do have internet there, btw, I just couldn't access it Wink), but I'll get to work catching up on the latest MG news and RRs!

That had to be in honor of Chris Dill, our most infamous double poster on the MG 

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SSMinnow - 2010-08-30 1:58 PM All this excitement surrounding Chris's courageous performance in near 100F conditions, got me thinking.....what's the one piece of advice or cool phrase  or whatever you would share with those of us on deck????  I kinda dug Kyla's little Dorry quote for Chris yesterday....when the going gets tough, it's nice to reflect on the gang and what they have to offer.....

And John and Trevor, please no nudy photos like you sent me last time Wink!


I always channel Dorry when the going gets tough. And, as I mentioned... Forward Progress. Sometimes that's not how I feel, if I want to go faster, but for an IM when the numero uno goal is to cross that line, Forward Progress is first and foremost.

First day of school today. Broke my heart and I missed the kids all day. Daughter came home loving life. Son came home feeling overwhelmed already. Oh dear, poor guy. This is why I'm still a stay-at-home-mom... to cushion the fall on days like this. I'd hate dumping him off to an empty house or someone else right now. That said, it felt very weird to have a Monday and not be out on a long bike ride. That was my reality for the last 6 mos. of school last year, I had forgotten what a "normal" day was. Not that mine was normal, as my sister was in town for a long layover (started last night), so was with her and bil and nephew most of the day until they flew out this afternoon.

Happy Monday to all!

Can't wait to hear from our newest Ironman. I'm chomping at the bit for details about the day.
2010-08-30 6:07 PM
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SSMinnow - 2010-08-30 2:58 PM All this excitement surrounding Chris's courageous performance in near 100F conditions, got me thinking.....what's the one piece of advice or cool phrase  or whatever you would share with those of us on deck????  I kinda dug Kyla's little Dorry quote for Chris yesterday....when the going gets tough, it's nice to reflect on the gang and what they have to offer.....

And John and Trevor, please no nudy photos like you sent me last time Wink!


Best words of advice I got was "stay in the moment".  It is easy to get overwhelmed by the magnitude of the day, or by something that doesn't go according to plan.  I can vividly recall three times when I had to tell myself this.

Second best words of advice....take in every memory (there will be many during your day). 

Lastly, I got this note before mine: 
"I wrote the word SEAL on the back of my Aero bottle for Ironman.  This reminds me that it was first the SEAL's that invited IM and second it reminds me of how hard those guys have it everyday. I'm not gonna die, I am surrounded by friendly people who are there to help me, I can just quit at anytime (not gonna!!!!) and tonight I get a nice soft bed and hot food and sleep next to my wife. So when that internal whine starts to rise about how hard my day is, I just think about those guys and then shut the hell up and pedal on!"

I liked this because even during the worst of training days/races I remind myself that I am damn lucky to be able to do this. 
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Caution....Training Related Question Below:

I have been considering getting a deep tissue sports massage a couple of days before my next race to work out some knots from the season.  I have done the post race massage a couple of times but never before race massage.  Anybody have any input?  
 
How many days before?  Worth it?  How much muscle soreness can I expect?  Etc.

Thanks....

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Havin'Fun - 2010-08-30 7:07 PM
SSMinnow - 2010-08-30 2:58 PM All this excitement surrounding Chris's courageous performance in near 100F conditions, got me thinking.....what's the one piece of advice or cool phrase  or whatever you would share with those of us on deck????  I kinda dug Kyla's little Dorry quote for Chris yesterday....when the going gets tough, it's nice to reflect on the gang and what they have to offer.....

And John and Trevor, please no nudy photos like you sent me last time Wink!


Best words of advice I got was "stay in the moment".  It is easy to get overwhelmed by the magnitude of the day, or by something that doesn't go according to plan.  I can vividly recall three times when I had to tell myself this.

Second best words of advice....take in every memory (there will be many during your day). 

Lastly, I got this note before mine: 
"I wrote the word SEAL on the back of my Aero bottle for Ironman.  This reminds me that it was first the SEAL's that invited IM and second it reminds me of how hard those guys have it everyday. I'm not gonna die, I am surrounded by friendly people who are there to help me, I can just quit at anytime (not gonna!!!!) and tonight I get a nice soft bed and hot food and sleep next to my wife. So when that internal whine starts to rise about how hard my day is, I just think about those guys and then shut the hell up and pedal on!"

I liked this because even during the worst of training days/races I remind myself that I am damn lucky to be able to do this. 


awesome. 
2010-08-30 9:19 PM
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i can't believe canada is still open.


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badgerintx - 2010-08-30 9:57 PM

Caution....Training Related Question Below:

I have been considering getting a deep tissue sports massage a couple of days before my next race to work out some knots from the season.  I have done the post race massage a couple of times but never before race massage.  Anybody have any input?  
 
How many days before?  Worth it?  How much muscle soreness can I expect?  Etc.

Thanks....

Dino



I really don't think it is a good idea any less than a week before a race.  It REALLY stirs up the toxins in the system and if you have not had one before you can expect at least 2-3 days of soreness (depending on the MT)  It also can cause some mild de-hydration in some people for a few days.

YMMV but my girlfriend is a MT and these are her recommendations as well...she is also a triathlete and won't get a massage close to a race if it's anything more than a sprint.


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Hey everyone!  We just got home a couple hours ago.  Sorry I couldn't post earlier, I was too busy eating everything in sight.  Overall, I feel fine now.  No ill effects.  I'm a little stiff, but not real sore.  I'll write up my full RR tomorrow, but here's the scoop. 

Swim was awesome!  Don't know why the Ohio gets a bad rap.  It was clean and fairly clear, but really warm (84 degrees, no wetsuit).  Overall I am pleased with my time (1:09).  1:05 was a longshot goal.  1:15 was what I hoped to do.

Bike was pretty good.  2nd half was not as good as 1st half.  Mile 75 I started having issues (THEY RAN OUT OF WATER AT THE AID STATION!)  By mile 80 my stomach shut down because I had to take Perform instead of water and went over total caloric intake.  My left knee started hurting again like it did in April when I couldn't run for five weeks.  Mile 110, my left groin locked up due to lack of electrolytes.  I did some one legged pedaling for a mile to get it in since I was so close, then it released with a mile left.  The course itself was beautiful, but hilly.  My Garmin calculated almost 4200 ft of climbing.  Also, it was a brutally hot day.  I heard from someone they saw it got up to 98 and was fairly humid.

Run was the worst expereince of my life.  Stomach still didn't want to operate.  I was without calories, electrolytes, carbs (all infinit stuff) since mile 75 of the bike.  Walk / ran the first 6 miles (mostly walking because of nausea), ran 4 miles back.  At mile 14, I threw up.  At mile 17 threw up.  At mile 22 threw up.  During this time, I tried chicken broth, coke, water and just ice.  Everything made me feel nauseous or just vomit.  Bascially went without calories or liquids for the entire run.

Post race, I went straight to medical and got three IV bags.  Any more and I was going to the hospital.  I heard there were over 1,200 people treated in medical post race.  I can't even begin to tell you how many times I saw people sitting on the side of the road on the bike course or how many times I heard an ambulance on the run course.  I saw one guy who went into a full seizure and went face first into the pavement.  I walked up just as the paramedics arrived.  It was a really scary sight. 

Overall, I am somewhat happy just finishing given the conditions I was dealt.  I am obviously not happy with my time.  My wife already asked if I was going to do another one.  She obviously knows me very well and knows I am not even close to satisfied.  I want to actually run part of the marathon.  I think I might try a different one and sign up for Florida in 2011.  If I can't get in, I'm going back to KY seeking revenge.  I'll warn you, my RR is going to be long.  I'm going to put every detail in there.  The one thing I can say that I am happy about is that going into this race I had a goal:  to find out how I respond when things get tough.  I found the answer.

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Jeepguy2358 - 2010-08-30 9:55 PM Hey everyone!  We just got home a couple hours ago.  Sorry I couldn't post earlier, I was too busy eating everything in sight.  Overall, I feel fine now.  No ill effects.  I'm a little stiff, but not real sore.  I'll write up my full RR tomorrow, but here's the scoop. 

Swim was awesome!  Don't know why the Ohio gets a bad rap.  It was clean and fairly clear, but really warm (84 degrees, no wetsuit).  Overall I am pleased with my time (1:09).  1:05 was a longshot goal.  1:15 was what I hoped to do.

Bike was pretty good.  2nd half was not as good as 1st half.  Mile 75 I started having issues (THEY RAN OUT OF WATER AT THE AID STATION!)  By mile 80 my stomach shut down because I had to take Perform instead of water and went over total caloric intake.  My left knee started hurting again like it did in April when I couldn't run for five weeks.  Mile 110, my left groin locked up due to lack of electrolytes.  I did some one legged pedaling for a mile to get it in since I was so close, then it released with a mile left.  The course itself was beautiful, but hilly.  My Garmin calculated almost 4200 ft of climbing.  Also, it was a brutally hot day.  I heard from someone they saw it got up to 98 and was fairly humid.

Run was the worst expereince of my life.  Stomach still didn't want to operate.  I was without calories, electrolytes, carbs (all infinit stuff) since mile 75 of the bike.  Walk / ran the first 6 miles (mostly walking because of nausea), ran 4 miles back.  At mile 14, I threw up.  At mile 17 threw up.  At mile 22 threw up.  During this time, I tried chicken broth, coke, water and just ice.  Everything made me feel nauseous or just vomit.  Bascially went without calories or liquids for the entire run.

Post race, I went straight to medical and got three IV bags.  Any more and I was going to the hospital.  I heard there were over 1,200 people treated in medical post race.  I can't even begin to tell you how many times I saw people sitting on the side of the road on the bike course or how many times I heard an ambulance on the run course.  I saw one guy who went into a full seizure and went face first into the pavement.  I walked up just as the paramedics arrived.  It was a really scary sight. 

Overall, I am somewhat happy just finishing given the conditions I was dealt.  I am obviously not happy with my time.  My wife already asked if I was going to do another one.  She obviously knows me very well and knows I am not even close to satisfied.  I want to actually run part of the marathon.  I think I might try a different one and sign up for Florida in 2011.  If I can't get in, I'm going back to KY seeking revenge.  I'll warn you, my RR is going to be long.  I'm going to put every detail in there.  The one thing I can say that I am happy about is that going into this race I had a goal:  to find out how I respond when things get tough.  I found the answer.


Totally gives me the chills. SO GLAD YOU CHECKED IN HERE!!! Congratulations again. I cannot wait to read the full RR. Way to endure and never give up. I cannot even begin to imagine...!!! Totally scary about the guy with the seizure and hearing the ambulances out there. Totally scary that you got 3 IV bags post-race. Totally amazing that you endured what you did. Totally understandable needing to get back out there again. Totally can't wait to follow your journey next time you take it. Keep eating, keep drinking, keep sleeping, keep resting, and keep reminding yourself that you are one bad-@$$ Ironman.


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Jeepguy2358 - 2010-08-30 7:55 PM Hey everyone!  We just got home a couple hours ago.  Sorry I couldn't post earlier, I was too busy eating everything in sight.  Overall, I feel fine now.  No ill effects.  I'm a little stiff, but not real sore.  I'll write up my full RR tomorrow, but here's the scoop. 

Swim was awesome!  Don't know why the Ohio gets a bad rap.  It was clean and fairly clear, but really warm (84 degrees, no wetsuit).  Overall I am pleased with my time (1:09).  1:05 was a longshot goal.  1:15 was what I hoped to do.

Bike was pretty good.  2nd half was not as good as 1st half.  Mile 75 I started having issues (THEY RAN OUT OF WATER AT THE AID STATION!)  By mile 80 my stomach shut down because I had to take Perform instead of water and went over total caloric intake.  My left knee started hurting again like it did in April when I couldn't run for five weeks.  Mile 110, my left groin locked up due to lack of electrolytes.  I did some one legged pedaling for a mile to get it in since I was so close, then it released with a mile left.  The course itself was beautiful, but hilly.  My Garmin calculated almost 4200 ft of climbing.  Also, it was a brutally hot day.  I heard from someone they saw it got up to 98 and was fairly humid.

Run was the worst expereince of my life.  Stomach still didn't want to operate.  I was without calories, electrolytes, carbs (all infinit stuff) since mile 75 of the bike.  Walk / ran the first 6 miles (mostly walking because of nausea), ran 4 miles back.  At mile 14, I threw up.  At mile 17 threw up.  At mile 22 threw up.  During this time, I tried chicken broth, coke, water and just ice.  Everything made me feel nauseous or just vomit.  Bascially went without calories or liquids for the entire run.

Post race, I went straight to medical and got three IV bags.  Any more and I was going to the hospital.  I heard there were over 1,200 people treated in medical post race.  I can't even begin to tell you how many times I saw people sitting on the side of the road on the bike course or how many times I heard an ambulance on the run course.  I saw one guy who went into a full seizure and went face first into the pavement.  I walked up just as the paramedics arrived.  It was a really scary sight. 

Overall, I am somewhat happy just finishing given the conditions I was dealt.  I am obviously not happy with my time.  My wife already asked if I was going to do another one.  She obviously knows me very well and knows I am not even close to satisfied.  I want to actually run part of the marathon.  I think I might try a different one and sign up for Florida in 2011.  If I can't get in, I'm going back to KY seeking revenge.  I'll warn you, my RR is going to be long.  I'm going to put every detail in there.  The one thing I can say that I am happy about is that going into this race I had a goal:  to find out how I respond when things get tough.  I found the answer.


Chris, you are incredible.  The heat you surely could not control.  Nor could you control them running out of water at mile 75!   Or that crazy knee of yours acting up again.  But you adjusted as best as you possibly could and kept moving forward.  It must have been so scary and almost eerie to see so many that had to stop or needed medical attention along the way.  Through it all, you kept going!

You once wrote something after one of my HIM race reports that stuck with me...and it was something like this..."all this training for 6 hours?  was it worth it? you just answered my question!"

And as I contemplate the IM distance, the torture, the pain, the highs and lows that will come along with seeing what you can do and what your body and mind can endure....is it worth it???  Yes Chris, you just answered my question. 

I cannot wait to read your full RR. 

AWESOME!!!
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Jeepguy2358 - 2010-08-30 10:55 PM Hey everyone!  We just got home a couple hours ago.  Sorry I couldn't post earlier, I was too busy eating everything in sight.  Overall, I feel fine now.  No ill effects.  I'm a little stiff, but not real sore.  I'll write up my full RR tomorrow, but here's the scoop. 

Swim was awesome!  Don't know why the Ohio gets a bad rap.  It was clean and fairly clear, but really warm (84 degrees, no wetsuit).  Overall I am pleased with my time (1:09).  1:05 was a longshot goal.  1:15 was what I hoped to do.

Bike was pretty good.  2nd half was not as good as 1st half.  Mile 75 I started having issues (THEY RAN OUT OF WATER AT THE AID STATION!)  By mile 80 my stomach shut down because I had to take Perform instead of water and went over total caloric intake.  My left knee started hurting again like it did in April when I couldn't run for five weeks.  Mile 110, my left groin locked up due to lack of electrolytes.  I did some one legged pedaling for a mile to get it in since I was so close, then it released with a mile left.  The course itself was beautiful, but hilly.  My Garmin calculated almost 4200 ft of climbing.  Also, it was a brutally hot day.  I heard from someone they saw it got up to 98 and was fairly humid.

Run was the worst expereince of my life.  Stomach still didn't want to operate.  I was without calories, electrolytes, carbs (all infinit stuff) since mile 75 of the bike.  Walk / ran the first 6 miles (mostly walking because of nausea), ran 4 miles back.  At mile 14, I threw up.  At mile 17 threw up.  At mile 22 threw up.  During this time, I tried chicken broth, coke, water and just ice.  Everything made me feel nauseous or just vomit.  Bascially went without calories or liquids for the entire run.

Post race, I went straight to medical and got three IV bags.  Any more and I was going to the hospital.  I heard there were over 1,200 people treated in medical post race.  I can't even begin to tell you how many times I saw people sitting on the side of the road on the bike course or how many times I heard an ambulance on the run course.  I saw one guy who went into a full seizure and went face first into the pavement.  I walked up just as the paramedics arrived.  It was a really scary sight. 

Overall, I am somewhat happy just finishing given the conditions I was dealt.  I am obviously not happy with my time.  My wife already asked if I was going to do another one.  She obviously knows me very well and knows I am not even close to satisfied.  I want to actually run part of the marathon.  I think I might try a different one and sign up for Florida in 2011.  If I can't get in, I'm going back to KY seeking revenge.  I'll warn you, my RR is going to be long.  I'm going to put every detail in there.  The one thing I can say that I am happy about is that going into this race I had a goal:  to find out how I respond when things get tough.  I found the answer.



AMAZING.....Glad you are fine and able to recall all of the details of an incredible day.  Can't wait to read the RR.

Finding out what you are made of under those conditions can be a life changing event.

Congratulations.


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Chris, congrats on working through an incredible race.  You seemed to have learned so much about yourself, what an awesome experience for you!  Unbelievable and inspiring, thanks for sharing!

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Chris you're amazingly strong person.  what a great job just finishing in those conditions, vomiting, heat, humidity and little to no water or nutrition intake..  Great job mentally and physically.

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Jeepguy2358 - 2010-08-30 10:55 PM Hey everyone!  We just got home a couple hours ago.  Sorry I couldn't post earlier, I was too busy eating everything in sight.  Overall, I feel fine now.  No ill effects.  I'm a little stiff, but not real sore.  I'll write up my full RR tomorrow, but here's the scoop. 

Swim was awesome!  Don't know why the Ohio gets a bad rap.  It was clean and fairly clear, but really warm (84 degrees, no wetsuit).  Overall I am pleased with my time (1:09).  1:05 was a longshot goal.  1:15 was what I hoped to do.

Bike was pretty good.  2nd half was not as good as 1st half.  Mile 75 I started having issues (THEY RAN OUT OF WATER AT THE AID STATION!)  By mile 80 my stomach shut down because I had to take Perform instead of water and went over total caloric intake.  My left knee started hurting again like it did in April when I couldn't run for five weeks.  Mile 110, my left groin locked up due to lack of electrolytes.  I did some one legged pedaling for a mile to get it in since I was so close, then it released with a mile left.  The course itself was beautiful, but hilly.  My Garmin calculated almost 4200 ft of climbing.  Also, it was a brutally hot day.  I heard from someone they saw it got up to 98 and was fairly humid.

Run was the worst expereince of my life.  Stomach still didn't want to operate.  I was without calories, electrolytes, carbs (all infinit stuff) since mile 75 of the bike.  Walk / ran the first 6 miles (mostly walking because of nausea), ran 4 miles back.  At mile 14, I threw up.  At mile 17 threw up.  At mile 22 threw up.  During this time, I tried chicken broth, coke, water and just ice.  Everything made me feel nauseous or just vomit.  Bascially went without calories or liquids for the entire run.

Post race, I went straight to medical and got three IV bags.  Any more and I was going to the hospital.  I heard there were over 1,200 people treated in medical post race.  I can't even begin to tell you how many times I saw people sitting on the side of the road on the bike course or how many times I heard an ambulance on the run course.  I saw one guy who went into a full seizure and went face first into the pavement.  I walked up just as the paramedics arrived.  It was a really scary sight. 

Overall, I am somewhat happy just finishing given the conditions I was dealt.  I am obviously not happy with my time.  My wife already asked if I was going to do another one.  She obviously knows me very well and knows I am not even close to satisfied.  I want to actually run part of the marathon.  I think I might try a different one and sign up for Florida in 2011.  If I can't get in, I'm going back to KY seeking revenge.  I'll warn you, my RR is going to be long.  I'm going to put every detail in there.  The one thing I can say that I am happy about is that going into this race I had a goal:  to find out how I respond when things get tough.  I found the answer.


i love this brief man, but absolutely f'ing love this!  its one thing to face unexpected demons.  it's a whole new level to seek them out and ask em' to dance.

AWESOME!!!


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Again, great job Chris.  Sounds like it was extremely brutal out there.  It was very cool to watch you cross the finishline.
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Jeepguy2358 - 2010-08-30 9:55 PM Hey everyone!  We just got home a couple hours ago.  Sorry I couldn't post earlier, I was too busy eating everything in sight.  Overall, I feel fine now.  No ill effects.  I'm a little stiff, but not real sore.  I'll write up my full RR tomorrow, but here's the scoop. 

Swim was awesome!  Don't know why the Ohio gets a bad rap.  It was clean and fairly clear, but really warm (84 degrees, no wetsuit).  Overall I am pleased with my time (1:09).  1:05 was a longshot goal.  1:15 was what I hoped to do.

Bike was pretty good.  2nd half was not as good as 1st half.  Mile 75 I started having issues (THEY RAN OUT OF WATER AT THE AID STATION!)  By mile 80 my stomach shut down because I had to take Perform instead of water and went over total caloric intake.  My left knee started hurting again like it did in April when I couldn't run for five weeks.  Mile 110, my left groin locked up due to lack of electrolytes.  I did some one legged pedaling for a mile to get it in since I was so close, then it released with a mile left.  The course itself was beautiful, but hilly.  My Garmin calculated almost 4200 ft of climbing.  Also, it was a brutally hot day.  I heard from someone they saw it got up to 98 and was fairly humid.

Run was the worst expereince of my life.  Stomach still didn't want to operate.  I was without calories, electrolytes, carbs (all infinit stuff) since mile 75 of the bike.  Walk / ran the first 6 miles (mostly walking because of nausea), ran 4 miles back.  At mile 14, I threw up.  At mile 17 threw up.  At mile 22 threw up.  During this time, I tried chicken broth, coke, water and just ice.  Everything made me feel nauseous or just vomit.  Bascially went without calories or liquids for the entire run.

Post race, I went straight to medical and got three IV bags.  Any more and I was going to the hospital.  I heard there were over 1,200 people treated in medical post race.  I can't even begin to tell you how many times I saw people sitting on the side of the road on the bike course or how many times I heard an ambulance on the run course.  I saw one guy who went into a full seizure and went face first into the pavement.  I walked up just as the paramedics arrived.  It was a really scary sight. 

Overall, I am somewhat happy just finishing given the conditions I was dealt.  I am obviously not happy with my time.  My wife already asked if I was going to do another one.  She obviously knows me very well and knows I am not even close to satisfied.  I want to actually run part of the marathon.  I think I might try a different one and sign up for Florida in 2011.  If I can't get in, I'm going back to KY seeking revenge.  I'll warn you, my RR is going to be long.  I'm going to put every detail in there.  The one thing I can say that I am happy about is that going into this race I had a goal:  to find out how I respond when things get tough.  I found the answer.

Well, we've never known you to take the easy way...  Great job overcoming everything.  Way to not flinch when the cards are coming up against you!  You da man!

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FWIW the reason access to the Ironman.com site was limited was because of a cyber attack:

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The end of August is upon us!!! Post 'em and how about giving the little highlight of the month???? Shouldn't be hard for our IM stud to come up with something, right??


It's hard to come up with only one this month, but I could guess I would have to say completing the 150K Dairyland Dare with its 10,000 ft of climbing followed by the 1:30 run....swimming the 2.4m IM course for the first time would be a very close second. 


August's totals:
Bike:41h 21m 06s  - 675.29 Mi
Run:23h 08m 46s  - 151.42 Mi
Swim:20h 58m 23s  - 55568 Yd
Strength:1h 05m
Walking:30m


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I am wondering what the MG thinks of the situation I am facing at the Nation's Triathlon in DC 9/12. Here is the deal:

Originally the bike route was suppose to cross into VA and be an out and back on the GW Parkway. For those that do not know the area, this is a parkway that  is 2 lanes wide in both directions. Turns out that they did not secure the permits so they have had to revert to last years course in MD (Clara Barton Parkway) which is much narrower. Last year reports said that it was CROWDED with 4000 racers. This year they have let in 7000 racers!!! Why would you do that before securing the permits???!!!

To easy things they are spacing the waves out more. There are 33 waves! I am in wave 32!! Transition closes at 6:55AM and I do not enter the water until 9:04 AM!! Two hours +!

Finally, the wave order makes very little sense to me:

1.        "Top wave" (elite?)
2.        "Cadets" (no idea)
3-5.     M 30-34
6-9      M 35-39
10-12  M 25-29
13-15  M 40-44
16       Relays (?)
17-18  F 40-44
19       F 45-49
20-21  M 50 and over
22       F 50 and over
23-24  F 30-34
25-27  F 25-29
28-29  F 35-39
30       M 24 & under
31-32  M 45-49
33       F 24 & under.

I have tried to discern the logic here and cannot figure it out. Before I learned most of this I discussed the race with my coach and we decided that I should race this at the pace I hope to maintain for the Augusta 1/2IM. Other than that and using it as a trainign day, I am not happy. I partially wish I could withdraw and get my money back. This race draws a LOT of 1st timers, and 7000 people on an olympic course is a recipe for disaster.

What do all of you think?


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DougRob - 2010-08-31 9:38 AM I am wondering what the MG thinks of the situation I am facing at the Nation's Triathlon in DC 9/12. Here is the deal:

Originally the bike route was suppose to cross into VA and be an out and back on the GW Parkway. For those that do not know the area, this is a parkway that  is 2 lanes wide in both directions. Turns out that they did not secure the permits so they have had to revert to last years course in MD (Clara Barton Parkway) which is much narrower. Last year reports said that it was CROWDED with 4000 racers. This year they have let in 7000 racers!!! Why would you do that before securing the permits???!!!

To easy things they are spacing the waves out more. There are 33 waves! I am in wave 32!! Transition closes at 6:55AM and I do not enter the water until 9:04 AM!! Two hours +!

Finally, the wave order makes very little sense to me:

1.        "Top wave" (elite?)
2.        "Cadets" (no idea)
3-5.     M 30-34
6-9      M 35-39
10-12  M 25-29
13-15  M 40-44
16       Relays (?)
17-18  F 40-44
19       F 45-49
20-21  M 50 and over
22       F 50 and over
23-24  F 30-34
25-27  F 25-29
28-29  F 35-39
30       M 24 & under
31-32  M 45-49
33       F 24 & under.

I have tried to discern the logic here and cannot figure it out. Before I learned most of this I discussed the race with my coach and we decided that I should race this at the pace I hope to maintain for the Augusta 1/2IM. Other than that and using it as a trainign day, I am not happy. I partially wish I could withdraw and get my money back. This race draws a LOT of 1st timers, and 7000 people on an olympic course is a recipe for disaster.

What do all of you think?

my 2 cents - not worth the risk of getting hurt in a wreck and not be able to do your HIM.  Set up your own course near where you live and do a race pace effort there instead of rolling the dice...  Besides, how good is your race pace going to be on the bike when you cannot help but draft people...

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Reno8 - 2010-08-30 9:35 PM
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Caution....Training Related Question Below:

I have been considering getting a deep tissue sports massage a couple of days before my next race to work out some knots from the season.  I have done the post race massage a couple of times but never before race massage.  Anybody have any input?  
 
How many days before?  Worth it?  How much muscle soreness can I expect?  Etc.

Thanks....

Dino



I really don't think it is a good idea any less than a week before a race.  It REALLY stirs up the toxins in the system and if you have not had one before you can expect at least 2-3 days of soreness (depending on the MT)  It also can cause some mild de-hydration in some people for a few days.

YMMV but my girlfriend is a MT and these are her recommendations as well...she is also a triathlete and won't get a massage close to a race if it's anything more than a sprint.


I'm going to disagree with one exception.  I always got a massage the week of my race and for my IM I got one two days before.  The exception is...don't do anything new for a race that is important to you.  Try it for something smaller.  also remember to drink lots of water to help flush toxins and reduce soreness.  BTW...if you are often sore after a massage I'd look for a new one.  I can feel like screaming while I'm in there and just know that I'm going to be black and blue but not be sore the next day (or black and blue).  I'd also advise active recovery after a massage.  Don't try and go do a workout when you are done because trust me it will SUCK! but to go for a walk isn't a bad idea.  Just don't go veg or go to bed.  That could make you feel worse.

To top it off I would also go to the chiropractor too to make sure everything was in line and ready to rock!

Again, don't do anything new for an important race.  Find a good massage therapist and create a relationship so that they get to know your body.

 All that said I just reread the initial question...the difference is...you asked about DEEP TISSUE...no, don't do that the week of the race.  You should be getting those once in a while during training so they aren't trying to release everything at one time.  A good sports massage to loosen up the muscles the week (3-4 days) before the race during taper is a good idea.  In my opinion.



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Doug, I did it 3 years ago as a relay when they had a bit over 2k people and it was crowded then.  The relays went last and I had to wade through a 1000+ people.  It is a big TNT race and there were purple people all over the place.  (disclaimer, I have nothing against TNT they raise a lot of money for a great cause but I think many times they send folks out underprepared).  There were people crashed at every single turn around, it was a pretty scary ride with all those new riders out having to make 180 degree turns.

LOL, our coach only does it because he races as an elite and gets to go out first, he said no way would he do it if he had to go as an AG'er.

Funny, the guy that sits next to me here at work is doing it as his first Oly, he was groaning about being in the same wave and what to do for 2 hours.  He didn't know the bike course had changed until I just told him.
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Double post.

Anyways, they probably messed with the waves a bit to experiment on trying to get maybe the agressive 30-40 guys off the course before the women, but not putting the women out last so they don't have to keep the course open longer.

Seems like the eternal stuggle for RD's, how do I get the possibly slower people off the course before permits expire but at the same time not having them hold up possibly faster people and creating a dangerous situation.



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