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Thanks Marc.  I do appreciate the response, and I may look into it, but not sure I see the need (I may be a bit of a Luddite).  I mean, those things are cool and very convenient, but they don't add anything from a training effectiveness point of view, at least IMO (which is what I thought I was missing).  Seems the only things I am missing is the automatic changing of power and upload to TP and strava......   I suppose the TP upload would give Shane something to look at, but don't really see how that differs, ultimately, from saying "i did it" in TP    Either I met the power goals or I didn't.    I'm not one to really sit and look at power files, I'm just glad the workout s over.

And I've gotten pretty good at the push push push     the 30/30 are a little more repetitive but I have very little of that in 99% of my workouts.  As for other changes, depending on how far I have to go I start at :55 (VO 2 max) or :57 (threshold) before the interval, start the interval at :00, complete the interval to :00, and go back down.  That's a pure convenience.  I also think I like the ability to adjust certain intervals rather than having to adjust the entire thing. I may want a harder interval but the same easier rest.

Just my .02.  I'm also set in my ways, and loading computer programs and me don't always play nice  

Question re no more looking for right gear/cadence.... Not sure what that means.   I leave the bike in 53/XX for the entire ride, and cadence depends on the load.....  Not sure how having the power change automatically affects this?  I still and up a XXX watts for 5:00, whether I push push push the buttons or not?

My more immediate problem is figuring out how to get my samsung tv to talk to bluetooth headphones....

Yes, maybe... have to see if I have a 3.5mm jack....

But if not I assume this works....   gizmo 2

All that said above, I will download GC and give it a whirl....

I use both, and then lap average on top of it.

3s tells me what am I doing right now, 30s tells me what have I been doing for the last little bit (ie. am I trending too high or too low?) and then lap average tells me the average for the interval (specifically, am I too high or too low overall).

Can you put a few on the screen and see which one(s) you use most often? I use instant as 3s is still too far behind for me, but it drives most people nuts. Also have lap and overall ride up depending on which screen I'm looking at.

BTW, I am constantly seeing Edge 500s on facebook bike sites like Stevebay and Online Swap Meets in the $150 range

I originally got the 500, when I got my quarry, then got an 800 when it came out a month or two later. Both are rock-solid. I defer to the 800 though for two reasons: Turn-by-turn directions and warnings, and the elevation "look-ahead" feature. If I am going on a route that I don't know or for any race I always map out and load the course. In two races alone the turn-by-turn saved my arse and notified me to turn with several fellas up the road missed it. Did I feel bad for moving up spots that way? Nope, I filed it away under the "know the course" rule. The elevation Look ahead is by far my favorite thing though, rather in a race or when doing a really climb ride - being able to see the tops of long hills and climbs, and where they flatten out or turn steep is awesome - really helps to know how to manage effort.

I have a 620 that I run with, and I agree that the ability to upload files via bluetooth/phone or known wifi network is awesome. The only thing I don't like about the 800 (and 500) is that you have to tether it to an actual computer to upload files. To do it over again I would def spring for the 810 just for that feature.

I was supposed to go on my first outdoor ride since September (geez, it's been a long time -- hope it really is "like riding a bike"!), but the car with the bike racks was dead.  I tried to jump it, but to no avail.  Thankfully I was smart enough to check that out before putting my bike on it!  It hasn't been used much since early January, so I guess I'm not surprised.

Bummed to be on the trainer on such a nice day, but I'll get out for a run to enjoy it....probably better running weather than biking weather anyways!

Jeez - I never thought to do that even though I've been racing with the 800 for almost 3 years.  Duh...  Great idea - thanks!

Matt

I've done that for most all the longer races too, just in case. Never actually used it there, but never know. It has come up in other ride events. A couple people miss the (fairly obvious) turn marking and dozens more will simply follow without looking. I saw the marking and had the map loaded up to confirm they had all gone the wrong way. Saved a bunch more from going well off course a number of times. Also on a group ride led by a few people who are fun, but seem to have a lousy sense of direction, I had to show them how our route had ended up going to that point as they kept sending us farther away from the start. A 2 hr ride only went out to 3 because of that, could have ended up out past 5 the way they were going. The long rides are fun, but not so much when they aren't planned that way.

The elevation section is nice to know for some of the event rides as I'll just show up and do them. I know there are big, steep hills on them, but not where all of them are. Don't always look, but nice to have it there at times when the watts/kg being put out is also getting close to your speed. In races I've known the course well enough beforehand to not really need that.

Nice work James!  You want to use AP for the CP/FTP calculation in GoldenCheetah.  I think you will want to redo the 20' test before adjusting anything as well.  That higher 5' test will actually lower your CP calculation if you use the same 20' number.