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2012-02-10 8:07 AM in reply to: #4039679 |
Subject: RE: race day logistics (i.e. how to not look like a newb) 2453V - 2012-02-10 9:04 AM Yes... No need for a waterproof container if you dry out the wetsuit first, I can see that. The handycan idea is not winning me over however! Most transition bags come with a waterproof zipper bag specifically for the wetsuit after the race. |
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2012-02-10 8:12 AM in reply to: #4039335 |
Champion 9407 Montague Gold Mines, Nova Scotia | Subject: RE: race day logistics (i.e. how to not look like a newb) Left Brain - 2012-02-10 1:13 AM You're going to give up the bucket because the likes of DanielG, Shane, and Lisa say it makes you look like a dork? Never said anyone would look like a dork; most of the races I do transition is so crowded that there is barely room for all the bikes and necessary equipment that a 5 gallon bucket wouldn't fit without causing issues for someone else. In addition, my primary point was bringing too much equipment into transition which again goes back to space available. Shane |
2012-02-10 8:13 AM in reply to: #4039665 |
Pro 5755 | Subject: RE: race day logistics (i.e. how to not look like a newb) bhc - 2012-02-10 9:00 AM Buckets can also come in very handy if the PortaPottie line is too long!!! Only noobs stand in line, all the old timers know where the best shrubs are! |
2012-02-10 8:16 AM in reply to: #4038739 |
Member 5452 NC | Subject: RE: race day logistics (i.e. how to not look like a newb) pga_mike - 2012-02-09 4:45 PM That looks like day 3 of Bonnaroo.
Edited by Goosedog 2012-02-10 8:18 AM |
2012-02-10 8:36 AM in reply to: #4038258 |
Master 1862 San Mateo, CA | Subject: RE: race day logistics (i.e. how to not look like a newb) Looking like a newbie was the least of my worries. Then again, I'm not bothered by owning my newbie-ness, and frankly I don't care if others think I'm a newbie. If you enter a "tri for fun" event that's not officially timed, it's probably safe to say there are a lot of newbies present. But also, I don't recall anyone standing around pointing out who is a newbie and who is not. It seemed like everyone had their own routine. |
2012-02-10 8:56 AM in reply to: #4039709 |
Master 2426 Central Indiana | Subject: RE: race day logistics (i.e. how to not look like a newb) BrianRunsPhilly - 2012-02-10 9:13 AM bhc - 2012-02-10 9:00 AM Buckets can also come in very handy if the PortaPottie line is too long!!! Only noobs stand in line, all the old timers know where the best shrubs are! Unless event security (or cops!) see ya & escort ya OUT!!!! (Yes it does happen) Another Noob move at set up- Ride bike into T area late & wearing no helmet. And be considerate of space for other athletes. I've never had that much room for my set up in local events |
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2012-02-10 9:15 AM in reply to: #4038258 |
Member 56 | Subject: RE: race day logistics (i.e. how to not look like a newb) Popping Tires: About 10 years ago my wife was safety boating the Memphis in May Tri and I was doing baby duty (sitting on hill and watching the flow of people). Once everyone was in the water it got pretty quite but every so often there would be a POP from the bike area. I finally figured out it was bike tires popping as the day warmed up. So based on the experience of one (me) I do know that bike tires do pop, I didn't go ask any of the folks that were changing tubes after the swim what pressure they were running but it must have been a bummer. I'm going to do my first Tri in May and will practice changing the tire just to be ready. (Of course my Tri is up in Auburn CA and won't be nearly as hot and humid as Memphis gets).
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2012-02-10 9:28 AM in reply to: #4039709 |
Master 1460 Burlington, Vermont | Subject: RE: race day logistics (i.e. how to not look like a newb) BrianRunsPhilly - 2012-02-10 9:13 AM Only noobs stand in line, all the old timers know where the best shrubs are! Large plastic garbage bags can be worn like a rain poncho ... concealing an empty gatorade bottle for men or an empty peanut butter jar for women. |
2012-02-10 10:12 AM in reply to: #4039335 |
Champion 10018 , Minnesota | Subject: RE: race day logistics (i.e. how to not look like a newb) I really object to the obsession with bucket/no bucket/dork/noob, etc. I don't see people with buckets and think "what a dork!". I think "wow, that must be a real pain to deal with and they are not making the best use of their options." The bucket is simply impractical. I am not a very fast racer, but I have transitions down. It's not about looking cool, its about executing an import part of the race well. I have done enough races that I think my suggestions are pretty good. If you drape it on the bar, you also run the risk of it dripping on your stuff or into you backpack with your nice clean/dry clothes. No fun! I've seen several old, rusty, bike racks and I don't want to wreck my suit either. A small pile on the ground is fast and safe. Edited by BikerGrrrl 2012-02-10 10:13 AM |
2012-02-10 10:13 AM in reply to: #4038258 |
Expert 932 Chandler, AZ | Subject: RE: race day logistics (i.e. how to not look like a newb) I don't care what ya'll think...I'm keeping the bucket, dammit!! After all the stickers I've put on it to make it look like I'm not a newb, I can't just put it in a dark closet now. I guess anyone who is laughing at me behind my back better make sure that I'm not passing them on the course...Because when I do, who looks like the newb then???. |
2012-02-10 11:31 AM in reply to: #4040012 |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: race day logistics (i.e. how to not look like a newb) GoodStash - 2012-02-10 10:13 AM I don't care what ya'll think...I'm keeping the bucket, dammit!! After all the stickers I've put on it to make it look like I'm not a newb, I can't just put it in a dark closet now. I guess anyone who is laughing at me behind my back better make sure that I'm not passing them on the course...Because when I do, who looks like the newb then???. That's the spirit!! |
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2012-02-10 11:49 AM in reply to: #4039628 |
Alpharetta, Georgia | Subject: RE: race day logistics (i.e. how to not look like a newb) 2453V - 2012-02-10 7:47 AM Wait... that's a good point... I suppose you do need to put your wet wetsuit somewhere don't you... Its amazing how many obvious things I haven't thought about. Thats wetsuit thing though is making me think the bucket may be an even better idea than I originally thought. (and no I'm not changing my mind because Left Brain told me to!) As a carrying method and a seat it seemed like a good idea, though not all that necessary, but you do have to put a wet wetsuit somewhere, and a bucket being that it was designed to hold water will keep the wetsuit all nicely contained wont it. I like the sticker idea too. Can't be a Noob with a bucket covered in race stickers now can you! Who knew that buckets could be as controversial as flip turns, showers, and crossfit! Now Ill just need to find a nice big Mylar balloon! Everyone knows your wetsuit goes in your neighbors rack space! That's what usually happens to me when I arrive in T1. Oops, your wetsuit fell to the ground when I was navigating my bike into my rack space? My bad. And if you're doing the Mylar balloon, you should also integrate copious amounts of sidewalk chalk with big arrows pointing to your rack and bike. If transition is in grass, just use spray paint. In all seriousness, the questions in this thread are a great reason why lots of people recommend to spectate or volunteer at a triathlon prior to your first race. You'll get lots of ideas on what and what not to do, and really get a feel for the flow of transitions.
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2012-02-10 12:02 PM in reply to: #4040262 |
Subject: RE: race day logistics (i.e. how to not look like a newb) lisac957 - 2012-02-10 12:49 PM And if you're doing the Mylar balloon, you should also integrate copious amounts of sidewalk chalk with big arrows pointing to your rack and bike. If transition is in grass, just use spray paint. Save yourself from having to bring two more things for one purpose. Use spray chalk! http://abrivosports.com/spray_chalk.htm |
2012-02-10 12:18 PM in reply to: #4038908 |
Veteran 667 asheville, nc | Subject: RE: race day logistics (i.e. how to not look like a newb) bets12 - 2012-02-09 6:22 PM 2. Get there EARLY. The race instructions should tell you when transition opens and closes. They generally will get everyone OUT of transition area before the waves go off, so there aren't people milling about while the first wave of swimmers comes racing through. Do NOT be the jerk who shows up 10 minutes before transition closes and thinks they are going to move other people's stuff out of the way to make a transition space. Please do NOT move anyone else's stuff. Unless that person's stuff is all over your area. Whether someone is late or not, you don't spread out into another person's space. If i have no room for my stuff, it is getting moved. |
2012-02-10 12:28 PM in reply to: #4040012 |
Elite 3060 N Carolina | Subject: RE: race day logistics (i.e. how to not look like a newb) GoodStash - 2012-02-10 11:13 AM I don't care what ya'll think...I'm keeping the bucket, dammit!! After all the stickers I've put on it to make it look like I'm not a newb, I can't just put it in a dark closet now. I guess anyone who is laughing at me behind my back better make sure that I'm not passing them on the course...Because when I do, who looks like the newb then???. Newbiness has nothing to do with speed......... On another note: People keep saying the bucket makes for a good seat. What I want to know is who sits down in transition? |
2012-02-10 12:44 PM in reply to: #4040396 |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: race day logistics (i.e. how to not look like a newb) japarker24 - 2012-02-10 12:28 PM [ People keep saying the bucket makes for a good seat. What I want to know is who sits down in transition? I have to sit down to put my socks on. |
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2012-02-10 1:11 PM in reply to: #4038258 |
Expert 602 Las Vegas | Subject: RE: race day logistics (i.e. how to not look like a newb) Here are some helpful visual guides for "what not to do" : |
2012-02-10 1:20 PM in reply to: #4038258 |
Extreme Veteran 528 Severna Park, MD | Subject: RE: race day logistics (i.e. how to not look like a newb) Since we are playing with pictures: Another totally Noob look: |
2012-02-10 1:47 PM in reply to: #4040572 |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: race day logistics (i.e. how to not look like a newb) pburnett - 2012-02-10 1:20 PM Since we are playing with pictures: Another totally Noob look:
I bet that thing slows you down by....what?.0563 seconds over a 40K? Yep.....TOTAL noob deal there. |
2012-02-10 1:48 PM in reply to: #4040638 |
Member 5452 NC | Subject: RE: race day logistics (i.e. how to not look like a newb) Left Brain - 2012-02-10 2:47 PM I bet that thing slows you down by....what?.0563 seconds over a 40K? Free speed?
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2012-02-10 3:45 PM in reply to: #4038258 |
Member 35 Tree City, California | Subject: RE: race day logistics (i.e. how to not look like a newb) Thanks for the helpful pictures)). Just one more question: do you leave your transition bag at transition or put it back in the car? Pictures seem to show transition bags at transition :-? |
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2012-02-10 5:17 PM in reply to: #4041019 |
Pro 6767 the Alabama part of Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: race day logistics (i.e. how to not look like a newb) JBC - 2012-02-10 4:45 PM Thanks for the helpful pictures)). Just one more question: do you leave your transition bag at transition or put it back in the car? Pictures seem to show transition bags at transition :-? Keep the transition bag at the transition. Here's another take on why the bucket is a bad idea (coming in part from my approach to backpacking) - the bigger the bag/bucket, the more stuff you think about putting in it. The more stuff you have, the more stuff you can forget, and get screwed up by. Keep it simple. What are the essentials? You are going to be wearing your race clothing and your timing chip from the moment you get up and dressed so they don't get forgotten. You'll need to have your swim cap and googles, and maybe wetsuit. You'll need to bring your helmet and bike shoes. You'll need to have running shoes and a race number somewhere (belt or on your shirt). I also like having socks because at the BOP, the time it takes to put them on <<<< the time lost from blisters. Beyond that, maybe a water bottle or two; and for anything longer than a sprint, maybe a gel or blocks. But those stay on the bike, so no need to use the transition bag to carry them. If you have a bucket, you'll want to use the bucket. And pretty soon, you have a change of clothes for after the race, a spare towel, and your mess is spilling all over the transition area. |
2012-02-10 5:56 PM in reply to: #4041216 |
Master 2406 Bellevue, WA | Subject: RE: race day logistics (i.e. how to not look like a newb) gearboy - 2012-02-10 3:17 PM Here's another take on why the bucket is a bad idea (coming in part from my approach to backpacking) - the bigger the bag/bucket, the more stuff you think about putting in it. The more stuff you have, the more stuff you can forget, and get screwed up by. ^^^^^ THIS IS TRUTH!! ^^^ The Ironman and HIM races I've done provided plastic drawstring bags which you label for swim to bike and bike to run. Most of them have a place on the ground where you line up your bags, but HIM Boise has you tie your T1 bag up off the ground using the bike rack pole. Your T2 bag is similarly hung on the other set of bike racks at T2 (Boise has the swim and T1 several miles away from the T2 and bike course). I really like the two bags approach. I put the bare minimum in each bag, and load the bag so that I can take items out in the order I'm going to put it on. When the T1 bag is empty, I am done, stuff my wetsuit in it, tie it up, done. At T2 I do the exact same; empty the bag, reload the bag with my bike shoes, that sort of thing, and go. Last time I did a sprint triathlon I copied the two bags approach, and tied them up on the bike rack. Worked really well. |
2012-02-10 5:58 PM in reply to: #4041216 |
Member 35 Tree City, California | Subject: RE: race day logistics (i.e. how to not look like a newb) gearboy - 2012-02-10 3:17 PM JBC - 2012-02-10 4:45 PM Thanks for the helpful pictures)). Just one more question: do you leave your transition bag at transition or put it back in the car? Pictures seem to show transition bags at transition :-? Keep the transition bag at the transition. Sorry for the newb question, but why do you keep the transition bag at transition? Do you put stuff (wetsuit, bike helmet) in it as you do transitions? Seems like it's just one more thing to clutter up your spot. |
2012-02-10 6:03 PM in reply to: #4040544 |
Member 56 | Subject: RE: race day logistics (i.e. how to not look like a newb) ok, newb question, I was planning on wearing a pair of compression shorts under my wet suit and then just throw on bike/run shorts over them, this way I won't be mooning any other competitors (and it's not a pretty sight). Is there a reason to not take this approach?
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