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2012-01-17 10:49 AM
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It's all training unless you do it as an event competing against other athletes.

If I go out and run 6.2 miles on a Tuesday night would I say I did a 10k? I could say I ran 10k, but to say you did an Ironman or marathon or 10k (or anything else) implies it was a competitive event.



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I saw an NFL placekicker kick a 65 yarder during practice before a game.  The NFL record is 62 yards, not 65 even though thousands of people saw it.  A PGA golfer can shoot 57 in practice, but that's not a record because it wasn't done in a real tournament with all the pressure etc.

But if you went out on your own and did the ironman distances in less than 17 hours I would say you're Iron Ready!  You most certainly would be a Bad A$$ in my opinion.

2012-01-17 10:52 AM
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I did it myself, I dont want to be called an ironman ..13:53. I just wanted to see if I can do it. The slow time was attributed to traffic on the bike, and im a poor swimmer.

 

IMO An ironman is someone who finished in under 12 hours... anything higher even though official IM race should be called walkingman

2012-01-17 10:54 AM
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I'd call you a person with a lot of time on your hands
2012-01-17 10:55 AM
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synthetic - 2012-01-17 11:52 AM

I did it myself, I dont want to be called an ironman ..13:53. I just wanted to see if I can do it. The slow time was attributed to traffic on the bike, and im a poor swimmer.

 

IMO An ironman is someone who finished in under 12 hours... anything higher even though official IM race should be called walkingman

While we're on the subject, when are they dropping the cut off time to 12 hours? I mean, any later than that is just wasting time anyways right? Anyone can float 2.4 miles, ride 112 and walk a marathon AMIRITE

2012-01-17 11:03 AM
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synthetic - 2012-01-17 11:52 AM

I did it myself, I dont want to be called an ironman ..13:53. I just wanted to see if I can do it. The slow time was attributed to traffic on the bike, and im a poor swimmer.

 

IMO An ironman is someone who finished in under 12 hours... anything higher even though official IM race should be called walkingman

While we're on the subject, when are they dropping the cut off time to 12 hours? I mean, any later than that is just wasting time anyways right? Anyone can float 2.4 miles, ride 112 and walk a marathon AMIRITE

 



2012-01-17 11:04 AM
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synthetic - 2012-01-17 11:52 AM

I did it myself, I dont want to be called an ironman ..13:53. I just wanted to see if I can do it. The slow time was attributed to traffic on the bike, and im a poor swimmer.

 

IMO An ironman is someone who finished in under 12 hours... anything higher even though official IM race should be called walkingman



Don't tell me, let me guess, they should have different coloured finisher's medals for various time bands.

So me and my plastic finisher's medal that's molecularly bonded to my finisher's shirt (so I'm not mistaken for a REAL finisher) believe we just logged onto the wrong site. This is one of the reasons I spend a whole lot more time on BT than ST.

If you don't like the rules, fine, start your own race, make the rules whatever you care to make them and see how many people pay to do them.

2012-01-17 11:07 AM
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GoodStash - 2012-01-17 10:58 AM

rnner66 - 2012-01-17 7:46 AM So those of you that are saying no, do we say no to those military members that run certain Marathon events over in Iraq or Afghanistan rather than at the actual race site here in the states? (Did that make sense?) I know they get the same medals, etc. as the finishers at the real race site.

 

Well, no..."Marathon" is a distance, "Ironman" is an event. Ironman is just a company who puts on races. They have their half events, their 5150 events, and their fulls. They're the one who have decided that you are called an Ironman after doing their full. I think it is just as complimentary to say that you're capable of doing a full Ironman without calling you an "Ironman". It's a brand, it's not a ranking system or a title that you get for covering a certain distance. I mean,  if you finish a HITS full or a Rev Full are you gonna go out and get an M-dot tattoo? I wouldn't think so...

 

I think you got the chicken before the egg or egg before the chicken...  Race started first the company was born out of the popularity of the race. 

2012-01-17 11:13 AM
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GoodStash - 2012-01-17 10:58 AM

Well, no..."Marathon" is a distance, "Ironman" is an event.

Just a minor thing... Marathon is actually a place in Greece.

2012-01-17 11:13 AM
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synthetic - 2012-01-17 11:52 AM

I did it myself, I dont want to be called an ironman ..13:53. I just wanted to see if I can do it. The slow time was attributed to traffic on the bike, and im a poor swimmer.

 

IMO An ironman is someone who finished in under 12 hours... anything higher even though official IM race should be called walkingman

Crud! Can I still keep my tattoo???

2012-01-17 11:20 AM
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Tripopo - 2012-01-17 9:07 AM

 

I think you got the chicken before the egg or egg before the chicken...  Race started first the company was born out of the popularity of the race. 

 

Was the race called the "Ironman"? Not being facetious, I really don't know much about the history except that it was like three dudes who decided to go out there and see if the distance was possible.  All I know is that today, Ironman has marketed itself the right way. It is by most standards the pinnacle of triathlon even though there are other races that cover this same distance. Even the Ironman 5150 has a much different feel than an "OLY tri". Since Ironman is the brand, it is my opinion that the only way to call yourself an "Ironman" is to finish an Ironman event.



2012-01-17 11:24 AM
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synthetic - 2012-01-17 11:52 AM

I did it myself, I dont want to be called an ironman ..13:53. I just wanted to see if I can do it. The slow time was attributed to traffic on the bike, and im a poor swimmer.

 

IMO An ironman is someone who finished in under 12 hours... anything higher even though official IM race should be called walkingman

Crud! Can I still keep my tattoo???

Of course you can Trishie, and now since Chrissie will not be handing me my finishers medal at IMKS70.3, would you do me the honor Wink

2012-01-17 11:24 AM
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synthetic - 2012-01-17 10:52 AM

I did it myself, I dont want to be called an ironman ..13:53. I just wanted to see if I can do it. The slow time was attributed to traffic on the bike, and im a poor swimmer.

 

IMO An ironman is someone who finished in under 12 hours... anything higher even though official IM race should be called walkingman

 

That's pretty arbitrary isn't is it?  Why 12 hrs?  The guys who finished in 9 hrs would think you laid down and took a 3 hr nap and therefore you are not an ironman....your are nappingman.  LOL

I think anyone who does an IM weighing less than 180 lbs is not a real ironman.....I'd like to see them strap a 50 lb pack to their backs and do the mileage and THEN they will be real ironmen....

2012-01-17 11:39 AM
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bcagle25 - 2012-01-17 11:07 AM

As for my comments that are quoted, I guess that I may have choosen the wrong words to pick, but I believe that a few ironman competitors feel a sense of "I did an Ironman, what have you done lately?"

This thread is already going in several directions, and with synth-troll chiming in right on time, I'm not too worried if I veer off a bit too.

The above is one of those things that you see from time to time, and while they may be a small piece of the world of triathlon, they sure make it easy to pigeonhole the community. We were in Disneyworld for Marathon weekend, so of course we saw lots of shirts from other running races, and a good bit of triathlon wear. The one at my resort that just made me roll my eyes was a back of a shirt that said "I swam 2.4 miles, biked 112, and ran 26.2 What did you do today?"

I thought this is exactly the kind of d-baggery that gives triathletes a bad name. It's one thing to share your interests/beliefs/achievements in your apparel, but the snideness of "and you suck because you didn't" is unnecessary. I have given over 3 gallons of blood so far, and intend to hit 10-15 gallons lifetime if not more. I wear my donor pin sometimes, and I promote the Red Cross. What I don't do is smack people in the face with "well, did YOU do something like that yet?"

Threadjack over...

2012-01-17 11:41 AM
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synthetic - 2012-01-17 10:52 AM

I did it myself, I dont want to be called an ironman ..13:53. I just wanted to see if I can do it. The slow time was attributed to traffic on the bike, and im a poor swimmer.

 

IMO An ironman is someone who finished in under 12 hours... anything higher even though official IM race should be called walkingman

That's pretty arbitrary isn't is it?  Why 12 hrs?  The guys who finished in 9 hrs would think you laid down and took a 3 hr nap and therefore you are not an ironman....your are nappingman.  LOL

I think anyone who does an IM weighing less than 180 lbs is not a real ironman.....I'd like to see them strap a 50 lb pack to their backs and do the mileage and THEN they will be real ironmen....

As long as they still finish in 9 hrs.



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synthetic - 2012-01-17 10:52 AM

I did it myself, I dont want to be called an ironman ..13:53. I just wanted to see if I can do it. The slow time was attributed to traffic on the bike, and im a poor swimmer.

 

IMO An ironman is someone who finished in under 12 hours... anything higher even though official IM race should be called walkingman

 

That's pretty arbitrary isn't is it?  Why 12 hrs?  The guys who finished in 9 hrs would think you laid down and took a 3 hr nap and therefore you are not an ironman....your are nappingman.  LOL

I think anyone who does an IM weighing less than 180 lbs is not a real ironman.....I'd like to see them strap a 50 lb pack to their backs and do the mileage and THEN they will be real ironmen....

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!



2012-01-17 11:58 AM
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and people wonder why triathletes have a "certain" image.....
2012-01-17 11:59 AM
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ChrisM - 2012-01-17 12:58 PM and people wonder why triathletes have a "certain" image.....

 

yeah, I think it's my abs

2012-01-17 12:00 PM
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synthetic - 2012-01-17 10:52 AM

I did it myself, I dont want to be called an ironman ..13:53. I just wanted to see if I can do it. The slow time was attributed to traffic on the bike, and im a poor swimmer.

 

IMO An ironman is someone who finished in under 12 hours... anything higher even though official IM race should be called walkingman

Good one. Undecided

 



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Jeez people, with all the snark being thrown around I'm shocked and disappointed in everyone.

WHERE ARE THE GRAMMAR POLICE?  IT'S THEIR not THERE!

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bcagle25 - 2012-01-17 11:07 AM

As for my comments that are quoted, I guess that I may have choosen the wrong words to pick, but I believe that a few ironman competitors feel a sense of "I did an Ironman, what have you done lately?"

This thread is already going in several directions, and with synth-troll chiming in right on time, I'm not too worried if I veer off a bit too.

The above is one of those things that you see from time to time, and while they may be a small piece of the world of triathlon, they sure make it easy to pigeonhole the community. We were in Disneyworld for Marathon weekend, so of course we saw lots of shirts from other running races, and a good bit of triathlon wear. The one at my resort that just made me roll my eyes was a back of a shirt that said "I swam 2.4 miles, biked 112, and ran 26.2 What did you do today?"

I thought this is exactly the kind of d-baggery that gives triathletes a bad name. It's one thing to share your interests/beliefs/achievements in your apparel, but the snideness of "and you suck because you didn't" is unnecessary. I have given over 3 gallons of blood so far, and intend to hit 10-15 gallons lifetime if not more. I wear my donor pin sometimes, and I promote the Red Cross. What I don't do is smack people in the face with "well, did YOU do something like that yet?"

Threadjack over...

If this were ST, the correct answer would be "Finished ahead of you"

This is why I like BT, it's so much more about encouraging others than 'look at me.' Mostly everyone here would be fun to race and have a beer with.



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If this were ST, the correct answer would be "Finished ahead of you"

This is why I like BT, it's so much more about encouraging others than 'look at me.' Mostly everyone here would be fun to race and have a beer with.

As long as they showered first

2012-01-17 12:33 PM
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As long as the athlete completed within the rules and regulations then yes...S/HE IS IRONMAN.

jaelinfunk - 2012-01-16 8:22 PM if someone did a 2.4 mile swim, 112 mile bike and ran a marathon in one day, on there own (not in the race or an event) but under the 17hour mark would YOU consider them an ironman?

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blbriley - 2012-01-17 1:04 PM

Jeez people, with all the snark being thrown around I'm shocked and disappointed in everyone.

WHERE ARE THE GRAMMAR POLICE?  IT'S THEIR not THERE!

Here, sir!

I did make note of it, albeit in a somewhat subtle way.

2012-01-17 12:43 PM
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If I were to go out and swim 100m, ride 1 mile and run 1 mile on some random weekend, am I a "triathlete"?  Or just some guy who swam, rode a bike and ran for a while on a random day? 

I believe it's not just doing the distance (although that's part of it), but that it is done within the context of a formal race environment.  Part of the accomplishment (of any distance) is that you need to compete/comlete on a given day.  Regardless of how you feel, weather conditions, etc.  A date is set, you train for that date, you compete on that date, and others witness/verify that you did so within the guidelines/rules set for the race.  That's what makes you a finsher at any distance.  Otherwise, you are just someone who has a lot of time to kill on a weekend.

Along those same lines, if someone shown up and completed the course, but didn't sign up (bandit on the course), I'd not consider them an Ironman. 

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