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 2013-01-10 1:53 PM in reply to: #4572385 |
 Philadelphia, south of New York and north of DC |  Subject: RE: How many cyclists in Philadelphia are breaking the city's knife laws?OK, OK, I get the jokes. The point of posting this is to draw a connection between all of the proposed gun control laws being floated and an actual existing knife law here in Philadelphia. Everyone in CoJ is a law abiding citizen, right? So if you support stricter gun laws that will affect law abiding citizens
Edited by dontracy 2013-01-10 1:53 PM |
| 2013-01-10 1:56 PM in reply to: #4572384 |
Sensei Sin City | Subject: RE: How many cyclists in Philadelphia are breaking the city's knife laws? mr2tony - 2013-01-10 11:46 AM dontracy - 2013-01-10 12:50 PM What kind of bike do you have Don? I don't see a single tool on there that I'd use to fix a bike. There's a law in Philadelphia that makes it illegal to have a knife on your person on the street or public property. That means any knife or instrument similar to a knife, for example a swiss army knife or multi-tool. The only persons who may have them are those in a trade, profession, or calling So if you're a cyclist riding in Philadelphia and you're carrying a multi-tool with a knife blade in it, So for those who now ride in Philadelphia, or who might ever consider riding in Philadelphia, The penalty if convicted is not less than $300 and at least ninety days in jail. I can't tell how many times I needed a corkscrew for bike repairs... You never had a random cork fly off the road and lodge into the exposed bar end? God, if I had a nickle every time that happened. |
| 2013-01-10 1:59 PM in reply to: #4572410 |
Champion  18680      Lost in the Luminiferous Aether | Subject: RE: How many cyclists in Philadelphia are breaking the city's knife laws? Kido - 2013-01-10 2:56 PM mr2tony - 2013-01-10 11:46 AM dontracy - 2013-01-10 12:50 PM What kind of bike do you have Don? I don't see a single tool on there that I'd use to fix a bike. There's a law in Philadelphia that makes it illegal to have a knife on your person on the street or public property. That means any knife or instrument similar to a knife, for example a swiss army knife or multi-tool. The only persons who may have them are those in a trade, profession, or calling So if you're a cyclist riding in Philadelphia and you're carrying a multi-tool with a knife blade in it, So for those who now ride in Philadelphia, or who might ever consider riding in Philadelphia, The penalty if convicted is not less than $300 and at least ninety days in jail. I can't tell how many times I needed a corkscrew for bike repairs... You never had a random cork fly off the road and lodge into the exposed bar end? God, if I had a nickle every time that happened. But of course a pair of pliers or a screwdriver or a file would never ever come in handy?
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| 2013-01-10 1:59 PM in reply to: #4572405 |
Champion 34263 Chicago | Subject: RE: How many cyclists in Philadelphia are breaking the city's knife laws? dontracy - 2013-01-10 1:53 PM OK, OK, I get the jokes. The point of posting this is to draw a connection between all of the proposed gun control laws being floated and an actual existing knife law here in Philadelphia. Everyone in CoJ is a law abiding citizen, right? So if you support stricter gun laws that will affect law abiding citizens
Yes. I see no reason to carry a knife around, just like I see no reason to carry a gun around. |
| 2013-01-10 2:01 PM in reply to: #4572418 |
Champion 34263 Chicago | Subject: RE: How many cyclists in Philadelphia are breaking the city's knife laws? trinnas - 2013-01-10 1:59 PM Kido - 2013-01-10 2:56 PM mr2tony - 2013-01-10 11:46 AM dontracy - 2013-01-10 12:50 PM What kind of bike do you have Don? I don't see a single tool on there that I'd use to fix a bike. There's a law in Philadelphia that makes it illegal to have a knife on your person on the street or public property. That means any knife or instrument similar to a knife, for example a swiss army knife or multi-tool. The only persons who may have them are those in a trade, profession, or calling So if you're a cyclist riding in Philadelphia and you're carrying a multi-tool with a knife blade in it, So for those who now ride in Philadelphia, or who might ever consider riding in Philadelphia, The penalty if convicted is not less than $300 and at least ninety days in jail. I can't tell how many times I needed a corkscrew for bike repairs... You never had a random cork fly off the road and lodge into the exposed bar end? God, if I had a nickle every time that happened. But of course a pair of pliers or a screwdriver or a file would never ever come in handy?
I've been riding bikes for as long as I can remember and never once have I ever used a pair of pliers, a screwdriver or a file to repair one. Ever. |
| 2013-01-10 2:02 PM in reply to: #4572419 |
Sensei Sin City | Subject: RE: How many cyclists in Philadelphia are breaking the city's knife laws? mr2tony - 2013-01-10 11:59 AM dontracy - 2013-01-10 1:53 PM Yes. I see no reason to carry a knife around, just like I see no reason to carry a gun around. OK, OK, I get the jokes. The point of posting this is to draw a connection between all of the proposed gun control laws being floated and an actual existing knife law here in Philadelphia. Everyone in CoJ is a law abiding citizen, right? So if you support stricter gun laws that will affect law abiding citizens
I did the whole pocket/gentleman's knife think for a hot second. When I realized that I never used it once for the entire month I had it, I figured why lug it around...
But sadly, same could be said about the condom in my wallet. |
| 2013-01-10 2:04 PM in reply to: #4572230 |
Pro 5755 | Subject: RE: How many cyclists in Philadelphia are breaking the city's knife laws? Wow, I was 6 when this was passed I'd never even heard of this. I'm assuming that interpretation relies on the definition of the word word weapon, because there are plenty of stores in Philly that sell pocketknives. My son and I bought new ones like 2 months ago. In theory then I've violated this law every time I've biked with my multitool, and almost every day I remember to stick my 2" pocketknife in my pants. Anyway, cops here likely don't even know that law or would think about enforcing it. You ought to see what my son carries to culinary school every day! |
| 2013-01-10 2:05 PM in reply to: #4572423 |
Sensei Sin City | Subject: RE: How many cyclists in Philadelphia are breaking the city's knife laws? mr2tony - 2013-01-10 12:01 PM I've been riding bikes for as long as I can remember and never once have I ever used a pair of pliers, a screwdriver or a file to repair one. Ever. If we want to be serious for a second... In 20 years of riding I have only probably used the 4mm, 6mm, and 8mm allen wrenches and the chain break. |
| 2013-01-10 2:05 PM in reply to: #4572423 |
| Philadelphia, south of New York and north of DC | Subject: RE: How many cyclists in Philadelphia are breaking the city's knife laws? mr2tony - I've been riding bikes for as long as I can remember and never once have I ever used a pair of pliers, a screwdriver or a file to repair one. Ever. Fair enough that you won't carry a knife in Philadelphia. The whole point of the headline and photo were to kick start the conversation. However, anyone who does posses a swiss army knife, a multi-tool with a knife blade, or any other kind of knife is breaking the law in Philadelphia whether they're cycling, driving, walking, spear fishing, or whatever. Does that seem just? |
| 2013-01-10 2:06 PM in reply to: #4572435 |
Sensei Sin City | Subject: RE: How many cyclists in Philadelphia are breaking the city's knife laws? BrianRunsPhilly - 2013-01-10 12:04 PM Wow, I was 6 when this was passed I'd never even heard of this. I'm assuming that interpretation relies on the definition of the word word weapon, because there are plenty of stores in Philly that sell pocketknives. My son and I bought new ones like 2 months ago. In theory then I've violated this law every time I've biked with my multitool, and almost every day I remember to stick my 2" pocketknife in my pants. Anyway, cops here likely don't even know that law or would think about enforcing it. You ought to see what my son carries to culinary school every day! Right! I had a friend in culinary school... I was like "who are you, Dexter?" |
| 2013-01-10 2:07 PM in reply to: #4572423 |
Champion 18680 Lost in the Luminiferous Aether | Subject: RE: How many cyclists in Philadelphia are breaking the city's knife laws? mr2tony - 2013-01-10 3:01 PM trinnas - 2013-01-10 1:59 PM I've been riding bikes for as long as I can remember and never once have I ever used a pair of pliers, a screwdriver or a file to repair one. Ever.Kido - 2013-01-10 2:56 PM mr2tony - 2013-01-10 11:46 AM dontracy - 2013-01-10 12:50 PM What kind of bike do you have Don? I don't see a single tool on there that I'd use to fix a bike. There's a law in Philadelphia that makes it illegal to have a knife on your person on the street or public property. That means any knife or instrument similar to a knife, for example a swiss army knife or multi-tool. The only persons who may have them are those in a trade, profession, or calling So if you're a cyclist riding in Philadelphia and you're carrying a multi-tool with a knife blade in it, So for those who now ride in Philadelphia, or who might ever consider riding in Philadelphia, The penalty if convicted is not less than $300 and at least ninety days in jail. I can't tell how many times I needed a corkscrew for bike repairs... You never had a random cork fly off the road and lodge into the exposed bar end? God, if I had a nickle every time that happened. But of course a pair of pliers or a screwdriver or a file would never ever come in handy?
I have learned you use what you have but if you have nothing you get no where. Also, a good edge, regardless of the tool, is always good to have around, so yes I carry a small pocket knife in my bag along with a mini tool. Is it a swiss army knife no but it does what I need it to do like help me pull an industrial staple out of my tire. |
| 2013-01-10 2:09 PM in reply to: #4572404 |
Member 5452 NC | Subject: RE: How many cyclists in Philadelphia are breaking the city's knife laws? Kido - 2013-01-10 2:53 PM HOWEVER, I tend to only put CLEAN knives back in my block! I only put clean silverware in my silverware tray. The funk still builds up and the tray eventually has to be cleaned.
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| 2013-01-10 2:10 PM in reply to: #4572445 |
Champion 34263 Chicago | Subject: RE: How many cyclists in Philadelphia are breaking the city's knife laws? trinnas - 2013-01-10 2:07 PM mr2tony - 2013-01-10 3:01 PM trinnas - 2013-01-10 1:59 PM I've been riding bikes for as long as I can remember and never once have I ever used a pair of pliers, a screwdriver or a file to repair one. Ever.Kido - 2013-01-10 2:56 PM mr2tony - 2013-01-10 11:46 AM dontracy - 2013-01-10 12:50 PM What kind of bike do you have Don? I don't see a single tool on there that I'd use to fix a bike. There's a law in Philadelphia that makes it illegal to have a knife on your person on the street or public property. That means any knife or instrument similar to a knife, for example a swiss army knife or multi-tool. The only persons who may have them are those in a trade, profession, or calling So if you're a cyclist riding in Philadelphia and you're carrying a multi-tool with a knife blade in it, So for those who now ride in Philadelphia, or who might ever consider riding in Philadelphia, The penalty if convicted is not less than $300 and at least ninety days in jail. I can't tell how many times I needed a corkscrew for bike repairs... You never had a random cork fly off the road and lodge into the exposed bar end? God, if I had a nickle every time that happened. But of course a pair of pliers or a screwdriver or a file would never ever come in handy?
I have learned you use what you have but if you have nothing you get no where. Also, a good edge, regardless of the tool, is always good to have around, so yes I carry a small pocket knife in my bag along with a mini tool. Is it a swiss army knife no but it does what I need it to do like help me pull an industrial staple out of my tire. OK well ... in the rare instance something like that would happen, and you had a knife on you and used it to remove said staple, then in Philly you'd be breaking the law. And if the police wanted to, they could arrest you for that. |
| 2013-01-10 2:12 PM in reply to: #4572230 |
Sneaky Slow 8694 Herndon, VA, | Subject: RE: How many cyclists in Philadelphia are breaking the city's knife laws? We're now on page 1 of Google search results for "philadelphia knife law." Keep up the good work, people. |
| 2013-01-10 2:13 PM in reply to: #4572435 |
| Philadelphia, south of New York and north of DC | Subject: RE: How many cyclists in Philadelphia are breaking the city's knife laws? BrianRunsPhilly - In theory then I've violated this law every time I've biked with my multitool... Not in theory.
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| 2013-01-10 2:15 PM in reply to: #4572445 |
Pro 3906 St Charles, IL | Subject: RE: How many cyclists in Philadelphia are breaking the city's knife laws? trinnas - 2013-01-10 2:07 PM mr2tony - 2013-01-10 3:01 PM trinnas - 2013-01-10 1:59 PM I've been riding bikes for as long as I can remember and never once have I ever used a pair of pliers, a screwdriver or a file to repair one. Ever.Kido - 2013-01-10 2:56 PM mr2tony - 2013-01-10 11:46 AM dontracy - 2013-01-10 12:50 PM What kind of bike do you have Don? I don't see a single tool on there that I'd use to fix a bike. There's a law in Philadelphia that makes it illegal to have a knife on your person on the street or public property. That means any knife or instrument similar to a knife, for example a swiss army knife or multi-tool. The only persons who may have them are those in a trade, profession, or calling So if you're a cyclist riding in Philadelphia and you're carrying a multi-tool with a knife blade in it, So for those who now ride in Philadelphia, or who might ever consider riding in Philadelphia, The penalty if convicted is not less than $300 and at least ninety days in jail. I can't tell how many times I needed a corkscrew for bike repairs... You never had a random cork fly off the road and lodge into the exposed bar end? God, if I had a nickle every time that happened. But of course a pair of pliers or a screwdriver or a file would never ever come in handy?
I have learned you use what you have but if you have nothing you get no where. Also, a good edge, regardless of the tool, is always good to have around, so yes I carry a small pocket knife in my bag along with a mini tool. Is it a swiss army knife no but it does what I need it to do like help me pull an industrial staple out of my tire. The flat screwdriver blade on my multitool does that just fine. No requirement for a cutting edge. |
| 2013-01-10 2:17 PM in reply to: #4572445 |
| Subject: RE: How many cyclists in Philadelphia are breaking the city's knife laws? trinnas - 2013-01-10 12:07 PM mr2tony - 2013-01-10 3:01 PM trinnas - 2013-01-10 1:59 PM I've been riding bikes for as long as I can remember and never once have I ever used a pair of pliers, a screwdriver or a file to repair one. Ever.Kido - 2013-01-10 2:56 PM mr2tony - 2013-01-10 11:46 AM dontracy - 2013-01-10 12:50 PM What kind of bike do you have Don? I don't see a single tool on there that I'd use to fix a bike. There's a law in Philadelphia that makes it illegal to have a knife on your person on the street or public property. That means any knife or instrument similar to a knife, for example a swiss army knife or multi-tool. The only persons who may have them are those in a trade, profession, or calling So if you're a cyclist riding in Philadelphia and you're carrying a multi-tool with a knife blade in it, So for those who now ride in Philadelphia, or who might ever consider riding in Philadelphia, The penalty if convicted is not less than $300 and at least ninety days in jail. I can't tell how many times I needed a corkscrew for bike repairs... You never had a random cork fly off the road and lodge into the exposed bar end? God, if I had a nickle every time that happened. But of course a pair of pliers or a screwdriver or a file would never ever come in handy?
I have learned you use what you have but if you have nothing you get no where. Also, a good edge, regardless of the tool, is always good to have around, so yes I carry a small pocket knife in my bag along with a mini tool. Is it a swiss army knife no but it does what I need it to do like help me pull an industrial staple out of my tire. that's what teeth are for |
| 2013-01-10 2:18 PM in reply to: #4572451 |
Champion 18680 Lost in the Luminiferous Aether | Subject: RE: How many cyclists in Philadelphia are breaking the city's knife laws? mr2tony - 2013-01-10 3:10 PM trinnas - 2013-01-10 2:07 PM OK well ... in the rare instance something like that would happen, and you had a knife on you and used it to remove said staple, then in Philly you'd be breaking the law. And if the police wanted to, they could arrest you for that. mr2tony - 2013-01-10 3:01 PM trinnas - 2013-01-10 1:59 PM I've been riding bikes for as long as I can remember and never once have I ever used a pair of pliers, a screwdriver or a file to repair one. Ever.Kido - 2013-01-10 2:56 PM mr2tony - 2013-01-10 11:46 AM dontracy - 2013-01-10 12:50 PM What kind of bike do you have Don? I don't see a single tool on there that I'd use to fix a bike. There's a law in Philadelphia that makes it illegal to have a knife on your person on the street or public property. That means any knife or instrument similar to a knife, for example a swiss army knife or multi-tool. The only persons who may have them are those in a trade, profession, or calling So if you're a cyclist riding in Philadelphia and you're carrying a multi-tool with a knife blade in it, So for those who now ride in Philadelphia, or who might ever consider riding in Philadelphia, The penalty if convicted is not less than $300 and at least ninety days in jail. I can't tell how many times I needed a corkscrew for bike repairs... You never had a random cork fly off the road and lodge into the exposed bar end? God, if I had a nickle every time that happened. But of course a pair of pliers or a screwdriver or a file would never ever come in handy?
I have learned you use what you have but if you have nothing you get no where. Also, a good edge, regardless of the tool, is always good to have around, so yes I carry a small pocket knife in my bag along with a mini tool. Is it a swiss army knife no but it does what I need it to do like help me pull an industrial staple out of my tire. Rare instance? Semms you have never biked on rural roads much. It happened twice in the same ride. Do I need it every time or even often? No but I carry it for those times I do better to be prepared and not need anything thatn to need something ad not be prepared.
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| 2013-01-10 2:18 PM in reply to: #4572230 |
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| 2013-01-10 2:19 PM in reply to: #4572405 |
Sensei Sin City | Subject: RE: How many cyclists in Philadelphia are breaking the city's knife laws? dontracy - 2013-01-10 11:53 AM OK, OK, I get the jokes. The point of posting this is to draw a connection between all of the proposed gun control laws being floated and an actual existing knife law here in Philadelphia. Everyone in CoJ is a law abiding citizen, right? So if you support stricter gun laws that will affect law abiding citizens
I think it's fun how you are trying to make people into hypocrites by comparing the current gun law situation with outdated and non relevant knife laws. YES, I like to think I'm a law abiding citizen. But if I visit family in VA and have sex with the lights on AND in a position other than missionary, I am breaking the law. So fine, I'm a hypocrite. You win. |
| 2013-01-10 2:20 PM in reply to: #4572442 |
Champion 34263 Chicago | Subject: RE: How many cyclists in Philadelphia are breaking the city's knife laws? dontracy - 2013-01-10 2:05 PM mr2tony - I've been riding bikes for as long as I can remember and never once have I ever used a pair of pliers, a screwdriver or a file to repair one. Ever. Fair enough that you won't carry a knife in Philadelphia. The whole point of the headline and photo were to kick start the conversation. However, anyone who does posses a swiss army knife, a multi-tool with a knife blade, or any other kind of knife is breaking the law in Philadelphia whether they're cycling, driving, walking, spear fishing, or whatever. Does that seem just? If you're keeping a knife for whatever reason, and it's against the law, and you're ticketed or arrested for possessing said knife? Then yes, I feel the police are justified in enforcing that law. In a similar vein, I don't like that the law allows every Tom, Dick and Harry to own and carry a gun, but hey, that's the law. I complain about it all the time, thinking it's ridiculous and outdated, but the law is the law. |
| 2013-01-10 2:21 PM in reply to: #4572448 |
Sensei Sin City | Subject: RE: How many cyclists in Philadelphia are breaking the city's knife laws? Goosedog - 2013-01-10 12:09 PM Kido - 2013-01-10 2:53 PM HOWEVER, I tend to only put CLEAN knives back in my block! I only put clean silverware in my silverware tray. The funk still builds up and the tray eventually has to be cleaned.
Is it the clean silverware or using grubby/dirty hands in the tray to take it out? |
| 2013-01-10 2:23 PM in reply to: #4572480 |
Member 5452 NC | Subject: RE: How many cyclists in Philadelphia are breaking the city's knife laws? Kido - 2013-01-10 3:21 PM Goosedog - 2013-01-10 12:09 PM Kido - 2013-01-10 2:53 PM HOWEVER, I tend to only put CLEAN knives back in my block! I only put clean silverware in my silverware tray. The funk still builds up and the tray eventually has to be cleaned. Is it the clean silverware or using grubby/dirty hands in the tray to take it out? I'm a hand washer, for the same reason I don't use wood blocks to store knives.
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| 2013-01-10 2:24 PM in reply to: #4572470 |
Sensei Sin City | Subject: RE: How many cyclists in Philadelphia are breaking the city's knife laws? ChrisM - 2013-01-10 12:17 PM that's what teeth are for Yep. The TRUE multi tool. cutting loose threads from cloths, opening up chip bags, tearing tape, and to my wife's chagrin, biting off the little plasting thingies that hold tags on new clothes. |
| 2013-01-10 2:25 PM in reply to: #4572473 |
| Deep in the Heart of Texas | Subject: RE: How many cyclists in Philadelphia are breaking the city's knife laws? Kido - 2013-01-10 2:19 PM But if I visit family in VA and have sex with the lights on AND in a position other than missionary, I am breaking the law. So fine, I'm a hypocrite. You win. Just pick another state, there are several were having sex with your family is OK. |
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