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Originally posted by QueenZipp

Originally posted by 4agoodlife I've never had long training runs. I don't care for idea of Gu after Waffle after Gu, and these seem simple to try. Time to experiment http://www.menshealth.com/fitness/best-running-fuels?cm_mmc=Twitter...

I have been doing 1 power bar chew every other mile starting at mile 2.  When I need a break from these I take a bite from a bonk bar.  Seems to work far=irly well.

It can be a chore to find out what your tummy will be happy with for long runs.  I've found what works for ME is to have a couple of PowerBar chews every 45 minutes or so, a PayDay mini bar (thank you Halloween sized stuff!) at 2hrs as a treat to myself, a salt tab every hour (or 1 every 30 mins if it's ridiculously hot/humid out), and drinking water to thirst.  

However, take the above with a grain of salt as the only 2 marathons I've done have been at the end of IMs and I also LOVED having pretzels, coke and chicken broth on the course as the day wore on.   

That's so funny, I was just reading this guy's blog a few days ago!  I forwarded it to my massage therapist/exercise physiologist person (if you read my log you know i love this woman!) and she said she had read his stuff before and "And there is much debate in the medical/athletic circles about icing, rest, and anti-inflammatories. No one seems to have the definitive answer, so I go with what I believe has been helpful to me. Who knows??? "  I have no particular opinion on the issue.
 

Totally agree.    

Interesting read, but the question that was't answered (and I would have liked it to be) was... what does the author think the "right" method is for dealing with chronic and/or acute injuries if ice and anti-inflammatories are apparently detrimental to the healing process?  

That is seriously cool!

Originally posted by QueenZipp

Originally posted by 4agoodlife I've never had long training runs. I don't care for idea of Gu after Waffle after Gu, and these seem simple to try. Time to experiment http://www.menshealth.com/fitness/best-running-fuels?cm_mmc=Twitter...

I have been doing 1 power bar chew every other mile starting at mile 2.  When I need a break from these I take a bite from a bonk bar.  Seems to work far=irly well.

This is what I used for RnR Denver. Other than choking once or twice it worked pretty well.

"I ask health care professionals to do one thing, just try it. Pick one client with chronic musculoskeletal pain, skip the ice, skip the NSAIDs and try to use light exercise as a repair stimulus. Then, try skipping the ice on a client with an acute mild injury."---kind of answered?

I guess the reason this caught my eye is that both pediatricians we've had for the kids have recommended not to use fever reducers unless we felt really necessary and that  trip to the hospital would be next step. Reducing the fever doesn't help the body fight off what's attacking it. Seems like it could carry over to what's happening when there's injury/swelling/heat.

If nothing else, it makes me want to research more

I would like to know more too, but have not been using ice or anti-infamatory meds for awhile. Maybe a couple years now, haven't tracked it exactly. Basically only when something is really injured, though this may be rethinking even then. Regular use of these is too much. I've heard some say only after say the long run, but that's still regular use. Back off somehow if extra recovery aids are necessary. Fix it so you can sleep decently or be ready for work the next day, but make an adjustment for next time. Something that helps to understand is to at least partially separate the notion of feeling better equaling being recovered. They don't always overlap each other fully. Then the idea of training adaptations. The idea is to improve performance. Doing more work sooner or feeling better sooner doesn't necessarily mean that the adaptations took place, or that one got as much as they could have from it as it's possible to still see gains.

Seriously awesome.  

Originally posted by mtnbikerchk

Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl

Originally posted by QueenZipp

Originally posted by 4agoodlife I've never had long training runs. I don't care for idea of Gu after Waffle after Gu, and these seem simple to try. Time to experiment http://www.menshealth.com/fitness/best-running-fuels?cm_mmc=Twitter...

I have been doing 1 power bar chew every other mile starting at mile 2.  When I need a break from these I take a bite from a bonk bar.  Seems to work far=irly well.

It can be a chore to find out what your tummy will be happy with for long runs.  I've found what works for ME is to have a couple of PowerBar chews every 45 minutes or so, a PayDay mini bar (thank you Halloween sized stuff!) at 2hrs as a treat to myself, a salt tab every hour (or 1 every 30 mins if it's ridiculously hot/humid out), and drinking water to thirst.  

However, take the above with a grain of salt as the only 2 marathons I've done have been at the end of IMs and I also LOVED having pretzels, coke and chicken broth on the course as the day wore on.   

Ok now I just want a payday bar. I've got this book on my holiday list - anyone use it? http://www.amazon.com/Feed-Zone-Portables-On-Go/dp/1937715000

Just bought it this weekend at a tri store in Phoenix (they are so much better there). I haven't tried any of the recipes yet but I'm excited to do so.

Originally posted by QueenZipp

Originally posted by 4agoodlife I've never had long training runs. I don't care for idea of Gu after Waffle after Gu, and these seem simple to try. Time to experiment http://www.menshealth.com/fitness/best-running-fuels?cm_mmc=Twitter...

I have been doing 1 power bar chew every other mile starting at mile 2.  When I need a break from these I take a bite from a bonk bar.  Seems to work far=irly well.

I typically do 3 gummy bears every mile.  I start craving salt - like pretzels - later in the run too.

Originally posted by Richardsdrr

Originally posted by 4agoodlife I've never had long training runs. I don't care for idea of Gu after Waffle after Gu, and these seem simple to try. Time to experiment http://www.menshealth.com/fitness/best-running-fuels?cm_mmc=Twitter...

Recently, on my long runs, I've been taking Bounty Bars by Mars. I don't know if you have them in the US, or whether they are called something different. They are little bars of shredded coconut encased in chocolate. I find them easy to eat whilst jogging because the coconut makes them moist. Packed full of calories with a good mix of carbs, proteins and fats. I don't know how they be in the heat you get, but they work for me and don't melt even when close to my body. For savoury, I carry a couple of sticks if peperami.

I think it's really smart to start thinking about long run nutrition early on so that you can try different things. So, nice work!

It's totally alright to skip the gels and waffles and junk and eat real food, despite what the marketing might try and tell you. What they are generally offering is convenience, and while valuable in some cases, it's not everyone's priority.

Just try some stuff as you start to ramp up mileage and see what works for you. Don't forget to be smart about what you eat the days leading up and pre-run as well. Maybe even keep a food log so you can note the things that work and the things that don't. 

Not gonna lie, it's not real food but I've totally eaten a bag of mcnuggets, a foot long sub and a taco on a long run. 

I <3 PB as well!  Bought some PB2 recently, but finishing up another jar first. Have you tried it? A friend recommended it because it's 13 fat cal vs 140 per 2 TBSP of "regular" PB since there's no oil. Carbs and protein slightly less than regular, but I'd just have another serving  

The PB2 powder goes nicely in the Protein Pancakes (or any other pancake "mix" i suppose) for a nice peanut-buttery flavor.

ETA: not sure why the whole quote didn't show up

I don't even want to hear about PB2.  Stupid nut allergy 

Originally posted by rrrunner

Originally posted by mtnbikerchk

Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl

Originally posted by QueenZipp

Originally posted by 4agoodlife I've never had long training runs. I don't care for idea of Gu after Waffle after Gu, and these seem simple to try. Time to experiment http://www.menshealth.com/fitness/best-running-fuels?cm_mmc=Twitter...

I have been doing 1 power bar chew every other mile starting at mile 2.  When I need a break from these I take a bite from a bonk bar.  Seems to work far=irly well.

It can be a chore to find out what your tummy will be happy with for long runs.  I've found what works for ME is to have a couple of PowerBar chews every 45 minutes or so, a PayDay mini bar (thank you Halloween sized stuff!) at 2hrs as a treat to myself, a salt tab every hour (or 1 every 30 mins if it's ridiculously hot/humid out), and drinking water to thirst.  

However, take the above with a grain of salt as the only 2 marathons I've done have been at the end of IMs and I also LOVED having pretzels, coke and chicken broth on the course as the day wore on.   

Ok now I just want a payday bar. I've got this book on my holiday list - anyone use it? http://www.amazon.com/Feed-Zone-Portables-On-Go/dp/1937715000

Just bought it this weekend at a tri store in Phoenix (they are so much better there). I haven't tried any of the recipes yet but I'm excited to do so.

I haven't read it, but have been very much interested in looking more at Skratch Labs work.

Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by rrrunner

Originally posted by mtnbikerchk

Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl

Originally posted by QueenZipp

Originally posted by 4agoodlife I've never had long training runs. I don't care for idea of Gu after Waffle after Gu, and these seem simple to try. Time to experiment http://www.menshealth.com/fitness/best-running-fuels?cm_mmc=Twitter...

I have been doing 1 power bar chew every other mile starting at mile 2.  When I need a break from these I take a bite from a bonk bar.  Seems to work far=irly well.

It can be a chore to find out what your tummy will be happy with for long runs.  I've found what works for ME is to have a couple of PowerBar chews every 45 minutes or so, a PayDay mini bar (thank you Halloween sized stuff!) at 2hrs as a treat to myself, a salt tab every hour (or 1 every 30 mins if it's ridiculously hot/humid out), and drinking water to thirst.  

However, take the above with a grain of salt as the only 2 marathons I've done have been at the end of IMs and I also LOVED having pretzels, coke and chicken broth on the course as the day wore on.   

Ok now I just want a payday bar. I've got this book on my holiday list - anyone use it? http://www.amazon.com/Feed-Zone-Portables-On-Go/dp/1937715000

Just bought it this weekend at a tri store in Phoenix (they are so much better there). I haven't tried any of the recipes yet but I'm excited to do so.

I haven't read it, but have been very much interested in looking more at Skratch Labs work.

They write quite a bit about Skratch in the beginning of the book. I must admit, I didn't read it.

I signed up for a trail marathon -- April 5, 2014. I've got plenty of time, right??

Part of the trail I've run before (the 4 water crossing part). The other parts are closed to the public. One reason I want to run this race is that there are some cool things to see, and I want to see them! Think rock formations, canyons, and petroglyphs.

that sounds sooooo awesome and you have plenty of time to be ready. STAY HEALTHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Build smart and enjoy the trip!

Yep. Plenty. I'd start working on a nice solid base now though. Then you can ramp into a plan in December. 

All great reasons to run a race, Felicia!