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2010-04-14 3:00 PM
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fattyfatfat - 2010-04-14 2:19 PM
gotta run - 2010-04-14 1:08 PM

thanks for giving us all something to do monday morning... tracking you!!!!  while i hate the red sux fenway is on of my favorite parks.

good luck!  train race party... in no particular order!!!


Careful there, fella. Wink

Linda - have a great race, and have fun in Boston!!


wait a second.  how on earth did another boston fan get in this group.  we must get a better screening process. 

hey george you live closer to her.  pay her a visit will ya. 

is papi hitting yet?

edit... fixed that.  i got yelled at by sam earlier for the same mistake....  sorry julia.   but boston still sucks


will do...i'll introduce her to the bronx bomber!

(but they aren't looking to good in today's game Yell)


2010-04-14 3:17 PM
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kickitinok - 2010-04-14 2:31 PM
ashort33 - 2010-04-13 2:42 PM

kickitinok - 2010-04-14 1:19 PM
ashort33 - 2010-04-13 2:14 PM

HollyW - 2010-04-14 12:33 PM
DougRob - 2010-04-12 12:35 PM
HollyW - 2010-04-12 1:23 PM WOW...looks like everyone had a busy weekend!!  Super huge congratulations to everyone who raced this weekend!  I haven't got a chance to read the race reports yet but can't wait to do so.   

Unfortunately I didn't get any training in this weekend but I did get lots of yard work done & I'm feeling it today.


Why do I think you were Belly Dancing instead of doing yardwork?


I was belly dancing WHILE doing yardwork.....I guess this is why the neighbors think I'm weird. Tongue out

DANG - I need to get up to the City more often...



Yay! Andy's got the nomenclature down! The City is a groovy place....belly dancing landscapers, chicks in wetsuits freezing their t*ts off....what more could you ask for? 

and Red Dog Saloon... 

 

(no, not really....)



Please say it ain't so, Andy! That place is super nasty. (From what I've heard - never been there......) *cough* 


Unfortunately I have been there & it is super nasty.....there are some things you just can't un-see!!!
2010-04-14 3:23 PM
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DougRob - 2010-04-14 12:34 PM

Double post! I'll go sit in the corner now.



okay Chris, you go do that
2010-04-14 3:31 PM
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HollyW - 2010-04-14 3:17 PM
kickitinok - 2010-04-14 2:31 PM
ashort33 - 2010-04-13 2:42 PM

kickitinok - 2010-04-14 1:19 PM
ashort33 - 2010-04-13 2:14 PM

HollyW - 2010-04-14 12:33 PM
DougRob - 2010-04-12 12:35 PM
HollyW - 2010-04-12 1:23 PM WOW...looks like everyone had a busy weekend!!  Super huge congratulations to everyone who raced this weekend!  I haven't got a chance to read the race reports yet but can't wait to do so.   

Unfortunately I didn't get any training in this weekend but I did get lots of yard work done & I'm feeling it today.


Why do I think you were Belly Dancing instead of doing yardwork?


I was belly dancing WHILE doing yardwork.....I guess this is why the neighbors think I'm weird. Tongue out

DANG - I need to get up to the City more often...



Yay! Andy's got the nomenclature down! The City is a groovy place....belly dancing landscapers, chicks in wetsuits freezing their t*ts off....what more could you ask for? 

and Red Dog Saloon... 

 

(no, not really....)



Please say it ain't so, Andy! That place is super nasty. (From what I've heard - never been there......) *cough* 


Unfortunately I have been there & it is super nasty.....there are some things you just can't un-see!!!

Yep, that's the place...  I'm sure it hasn't gotten better in the 15 years since I was there last...  Probably has the same employees...

2010-04-14 3:32 PM
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kt65 - 2010-04-14 4:23 PM
DougRob - 2010-04-14 12:34 PM

Double post! I'll go sit in the corner now.



okay Chris, you go do that


Who is Chris? I said that about myself. Embarassed
2010-04-14 3:59 PM
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fattyfatfat - 2010-04-14 1:39 PM
kickitinok - 2010-04-14 11:20 AM Race plan? Do I really need a race plan for a sprint? Don't I just swim as fast as I can, bike like mad, then gimp-run for 10 minutes into my run until my quads relax?


no.

you have to go at 98% of you're FTP.

you have to have at least a 45 oz aero bottle.  and one behind your seat.

tape 6 gu's to your bike.

two spare tubes.  and 8 CO2's.

you have to wear newtons.

compression sleeves on the legs and arm coolers.

you have to have a tri bike and race wheels.

this is all a bunch of crap.  you just have to have fun.

i've tried calling galveston beach patrol twice today but to no avail.  my wife also want to do it.  we'll get it figured out. andy's right on about the booties.  you won't need them.





You forgot about a complete change in tranistion. don't be embarassed about being naked in public



2010-04-14 4:11 PM
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DougRob - 2010-04-14 1:32 PM
kt65 - 2010-04-14 4:23 PM
DougRob - 2010-04-14 12:34 PM

Double post! I'll go sit in the corner now.



okay Chris, you go do that


Who is Chris? I said that about myself. Embarassed


doug, don't mind me, i just finished sending all of my profit/loss stuff to my accountant and am a bit punchy.  wasn't it chris who was always double posting (jeepguy?)  my bad, sorry, i'm not always this random. 
2010-04-14 4:12 PM
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kt65 - 2010-04-14 4:11 PM
DougRob - 2010-04-14 1:32 PM
kt65 - 2010-04-14 4:23 PM
DougRob - 2010-04-14 12:34 PM

Double post! I'll go sit in the corner now.



okay Chris, you go do that


Who is Chris? I said that about myself. Embarassed


doug, don't mind me, i just finished sending all of my profit/loss stuff to my accountant and am a bit punchy.  wasn't it chris who was always double posting (jeepguy?)  my bad, sorry, i'm not always this random. 

Don't worry Kim, the rest of us got the joke!

2010-04-14 4:28 PM
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Redknight - 2010-04-14 3:59 PM

fattyfatfat - 2010-04-14 1:39 PM
kickitinok - 2010-04-14 11:20 AM Race plan? Do I really need a race plan for a sprint? Don't I just swim as fast as I can, bike like mad, then gimp-run for 10 minutes into my run until my quads relax?


no.

you have to go at 98% of you're FTP.

you have to have at least a 45 oz aero bottle.  and one behind your seat.

tape 6 gu's to your bike.

two spare tubes.  and 8 CO2's.

you have to wear newtons.

compression sleeves on the legs and arm coolers.

you have to have a tri bike and race wheels.

this is all a bunch of crap.  you just have to have fun.

i've tried calling galveston beach patrol twice today but to no avail.  my wife also want to do it.  we'll get it figured out. andy's right on about the booties.  you won't need them.





You forgot about a complete change in tranistion. don't be embarassed about being naked in public



i was reading about this race in new zealand where the RD encourages this.  and after the race they have a contest to see who wins that "race".  no joke.  we should put this on the mg agenda.  i'll sherpa for all the girls that make it.
2010-04-14 4:30 PM
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John, thanks for the kick in a$$ last week.  I called your guy at lunch today, hopefully I hear back this evening...

ETA - btw, I have returned to walking normal today - guess no excuse to not go for a run tonight...



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2010-04-14 4:33 PM
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ashort33 - 2010-04-14 4:30 PM

John, thanks for the kick in a$$ last week.  I called your guy at lunch today, hopefully I hear back this evening...



you got it brother. that was a blast and a preview of whats to come in 10 days. 

hope it all works out eric.  he's a great coach. 


2010-04-14 6:00 PM
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ashort33 - 2010-04-14 5:12 PM

kt65 - 2010-04-14 4:11 PM
DougRob - 2010-04-14 1:32 PM
kt65 - 2010-04-14 4:23 PM
DougRob - 2010-04-14 12:34 PM

Double post! I'll go sit in the corner now.



okay Chris, you go do that


Who is Chris? I said that about myself. Embarassed


doug, don't mind me, i just finished sending all of my profit/loss stuff to my accountant and am a bit punchy.  wasn't it chris who was always double posting (jeepguy?)  my bad, sorry, i'm not always this random. 

Don't worry Kim, the rest of us got the joke!



Come on now.  When was my last dp?  That was my new year's resolution - no more dp's.  So far, I think I'm clean!  If not, when does that go away?  Can I do 5 hours worth of hill repeats with a 20% grade and call it good?
2010-04-14 6:02 PM
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Redknight - 2010-04-13 4:59 PM

fattyfatfat - 2010-04-14 1:39 PM
kickitinok - 2010-04-14 11:20 AM Race plan? Do I really need a race plan for a sprint? Don't I just swim as fast as I can, bike like mad, then gimp-run for 10 minutes into my run until my quads relax?


no.

you have to go at 98% of you're FTP.

you have to have at least a 45 oz aero bottle.  and one behind your seat.

tape 6 gu's to your bike.

two spare tubes.  and 8 CO2's.

you have to wear newtons.

compression sleeves on the legs and arm coolers.

you have to have a tri bike and race wheels.

this is all a bunch of crap.  you just have to have fun.

i've tried calling galveston beach patrol twice today but to no avail.  my wife also want to do it.  we'll get it figured out. andy's right on about the booties.  you won't need them.





You forgot about a complete change in tranistion. don't be embarassed about being naked in public



I'm never embarrassed about being naked in public. Just ask the people at the lake that I did my OWS in. Yes, I got naked in the parking lot afterwards - I needed dry clothes because I had to stop by the vet and pick up my two little snot rocket schnauzers. In an attempt to shield everyone that is the greatness of my body, hubby did hold up a beach towel. I think the wind kind of defeated the purpose, but in the end I only had to sign a couple of autographs so it wasn't too bad. 

First OWS was a rousing success! I wasn't scared and it felt GREAT! Woohoo!! I do see where I'm going to need to work on sighting, though. I tend to veer right.

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2010-04-14 6:09 PM
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Oh, and while everyone's on the subject of pro sports, how 'bout the OKC Thunder?!? Second year as a franchise, and we're headed to the playoffs....uh-huh.

Ladies: I need a black sports bra. Anyone know where I can purchase one?  
2010-04-14 6:27 PM
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kickitinok - 2010-04-14 4:09 PM Oh, and while everyone's on the subject of pro sports, how 'bout the OKC Thunder?!? Second year as a franchise, and we're headed to the playoffs....uh-huh.

Ladies: I need a black sports bra. Anyone know where I can purchase one?  


this is my favorite and thanks for posting, I didn't know they are on sale! 

http://www.championusa.com/Champion/Products/Women-Champion/Women_ShopByCategory-Champion/Women_SportsBras-Champion/Women_SportsBras_Bestsellers-Champion/CH1050.aspx

The thing I like about this one is that it dries quickly.  I wear this with my tri top under my wetsuit and I have been really happy with how it's held up over time with multiple washing, etc.

btw, I am sadly in Golden State Warrior land, land of the losing...wahhh, wahhh, wahhh.

Chris, I'm just messing with you, but if you want to do 5 hours of hill repeats on a 20% grade, have at it!!!  Glad you are out and training again! 

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2010-04-14 6:57 PM
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x2 on champion sports bras.

I'm so behind -- trying to read when I can... But wanted to say that what I learned in my last race, and that I keep learning over and over is that I am stronger than I think I am.

Would you believe my fancy new bike is just sitting in the ManCave awaiting a ride??!! It's killing me!!!!!

TJ -- LOVE your bike porn. That's some fancy setup. Awesome.


2010-04-14 7:16 PM
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GoFaster - 2010-04-14 10:57 AM
ryanp100 - 2010-04-14 11:40 AM
jvanis - 2010-04-14 8:19 AM Curious for our power people.

What do you race different distances at % wise?  Based on my 230 (indoor trainer tests) FTP, I have been using 185-190ish which would be 80% as my endurance rides.  Did my longest rides 35 and 40 miles last week right around 185.  How much does it change going down to shorter races.  My longest race bike last year was 20 miles, shortest sprint was 13.  Since I am sitting at work, I figured I would throw this out there as a question until I can get on my bike and do one of these rides at higher wattage and see how my legs go.

So lets hear it as a % of FTP:
Sprint
Oly
HIM
IM
My general guidelines: Sprint (~13mi): 95%+ / Balls to the wall, not sure I'd even monitor watts really... just do it Oly: 85-90% / Holding back a little HIM: 75-80% / Pushing it, but contained IM: 70-75% / Comfortable For example, my FTP is right around yours, and I averaged 181w (78%) for a 2:30 bike split at Boise.


Ryan - couple of questions.  At 181W, what was your watts to kg ratio at that power level?  Also wondering what the Boise course was like, cause that's a crushing pace.  Last thing, the average - was that the actual average or you pedaling or NP average?

Thanks


This was Boise--- Not easy to get a "REAL" idea when you are dancing around HUGE puddles, and avoiding lightning storms!  MISERABLE!  And yes if you haven't figured it out yet... LISTEN TO EVERYTHING RYAN says.  He did crush the bike... And the run... and every other race that he does!  (this MAY or MAY NOT be Ryan on the bike you decide !)



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Strength training question.

I am reviewing training plans and trying to figure out how to work in strength training.  Anyone have a lot of experience with adding weight training to a tri training plan?  Anyone understand the trade-offs of high reps/low weights vs. low reps/high weights as it applies to training? 

I have reviewed the Strength Training forum on BT and got some ideas there, but wanted to check and see if anyone here has any experience/advice in this area.

Thanks.
2010-04-14 7:18 PM
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kickitinok - 2010-04-14 6:09 PM Oh, and while everyone's on the subject of pro sports, how 'bout the OKC Thunder?!? Second year as a franchise, and we're headed to the playoffs....uh-huh.

Ladies: I need a black sports bra. Anyone know where I can purchase one?  


Yay, go Thunder!!!! 

Have you tried Schlegals or Bicycle Alley downtown?  They've got quite a bit of tri clothing.  Actually, the last time I was in Schlegals, which was about a month ago, they had a pretty good selection of stuff.
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Home....repaired.....hurting.......drugged.....fed....g'night

Thanks for all the notes and Inspires...You guys are the BEST!



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2010-04-14 7:41 PM
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kickitinok - 2010-04-14 5:09 PM Oh, and while everyone's on the subject of pro sports, how 'bout the OKC Thunder?!? Second year as a franchise, and we're headed to the playoffs....uh-huh.

Ladies: I need a black sports bra. Anyone know where I can purchase one?  


Steve/Kyla and the folk in that area may not say its the 2nd year of the franchise Surprised

Durant was the best think that could have happened to Seattle OKC


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kickitinok - 2010-04-14 5:02 PM
Redknight - 2010-04-13 4:59 PM

fattyfatfat - 2010-04-14 1:39 PM
kickitinok - 2010-04-14 11:20 AM Race plan? Do I really need a race plan for a sprint? Don't I just swim as fast as I can, bike like mad, then gimp-run for 10 minutes into my run until my quads relax?


no.

you have to go at 98% of you're FTP.

you have to have at least a 45 oz aero bottle.  and one behind your seat.

tape 6 gu's to your bike.

two spare tubes.  and 8 CO2's.

you have to wear newtons.

compression sleeves on the legs and arm coolers.

you have to have a tri bike and race wheels.

this is all a bunch of crap.  you just have to have fun.

i've tried calling galveston beach patrol twice today but to no avail.  my wife also want to do it.  we'll get it figured out. andy's right on about the booties.  you won't need them.





You forgot about a complete change in tranistion. don't be embarassed about being naked in public



I'm never embarrassed about being naked in public. Just ask the people at the lake that I did my OWS in. Yes, I got naked in the parking lot afterwards - I needed dry clothes because I had to stop by the vet and pick up my two little snot rocket schnauzers. In an attempt to shield everyone that is the greatness of my body, hubby did hold up a beach towel. I think the wind kind of defeated the purpose, but in the end I only had to sign a couple of autographs so it wasn't too bad. 

First OWS was a rousing success! I wasn't scared and it felt GREAT! Woohoo!! I do see where I'm going to need to work on sighting, though. I tend to veer right.


No way I am missing the sprint now at Lonestar!! Maybe I'll sign up to be a stripper...

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Reno8 - 2010-04-14 5:30 PM Home....repaired.....hurting.......drugged.....fed....g'night

Thanks for all the notes and Inspires...You guys are the BEST!



Steve


Let's hope the repair sticks.  I am glad you are ok!
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Reno8 - 2010-04-14 6:30 PM Home....repaired.....hurting.......drugged.....fed....g'night

Thanks for all the notes and Inspires...You guys are the BEST!



Steve


Enjoy the meds...Relax that shoulder Steve!
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Reno8 - 2010-04-14 5:30 PM

Home....repaired.....hurting.......drugged.....fed....g'night

Thanks for all the notes and Inspires...You guys are the BEST!



Steve


Glad to hear that everything went successfully... now enjoy that drug-induced haze and rest!
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