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2018-02-25 7:00 AM
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Well, not doing IMAZ since it is already full except for $1400 charity slots. Seriously, I think I will just fly back to Asia and do IM Malaysia in November. I kind of had my heart set on doing that or Taiwan as a first IM anyway, if not Challenge Wanaka, and I have a friend doing it. Wanaka full is out--just too hideous to train through most of an Idaho winter for an IM in February!

Mom still wants to go to Australia--possible we might combine racing and pleasure and figure out a way to "park" the bike in Singapore and fly to/from there to Australia after the race after a few days of R and R. Or maybe just work it in at the end of this school year.


2018-02-25 11:55 AM
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Originally posted by Hot Runner Well, not doing IMAZ since it is already full except for $1400 charity slots. Seriously, I think I will just fly back to Asia and do IM Malaysia in November. I kind of had my heart set on doing that or Taiwan as a first IM anyway, if not Challenge Wanaka, and I have a friend doing it. Wanaka full is out--just too hideous to train through most of an Idaho winter for an IM in February! Mom still wants to go to Australia--possible we might combine racing and pleasure and figure out a way to "park" the bike in Singapore and fly to/from there to Australia after the race after a few days of R and R. Or maybe just work it in at the end of this school year.
Sounds like Taiwan is the one. Go ahead, sign up!!!

doooooo eeeeeett

2018-02-25 3:51 PM
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Still a bit up in the air. I want a warm-weather race late in the year. The possibilities are Arizona, Western Australia, and Malaysia. Had been planning to do Malaysia, but that was assuming I'd be living here. Leaning toward AZ if it is still open, as the travel is considerably less ambitious. I would really prefer an ocean swim, though. Mom isn't that into Malaysia, but she does want to make a trip to Australia. Have also considered going for the full at Wanaka, and then on to Australia to travel. Just not sure where/how I would "park" the bike if we wanted to do further travels, or what I'd be up to tourist-wise after a full IM. Then again, Mom will be 80--the race might put us on equal physical footing for the next few weeks!

Stacey--Maybe we are the same height? Didn't you have a bike you said you never use?!


I will probably hold off for a week or so on IM; going to enter Vietnam and Calgary tomorrow. I had a pretty crappy run today--everything felt really swollen and stiff from the trip and then being back at work on my feet for three days right after. Just want to be feeling a bit better before I make that commitment.
Karen you would be welcome to use my bike if you do Western Australia. It's not a tri bike though, just a road bike. I can see if I an find what size it is. I know it is a men's frame that I had narrower bars and a new seat put on. If it is too big Yanti has my old bike which she keeps here in Perth it is smaller so that might be an option.
I am 167cm which I think is 5'6" or 5'7" or something around that. I have shorter legs and a longer body.

The other solution is that I would be happy to store your bike for you while you travelled.

Not sure how your school Year works but there is also IM Busselton in May (I think they are still doing that), but it will be much colder and there will be a much greater chance of rain. There is also IM Asia-Pacific in Cairns in June. It would be warm and dry up there then and you could base yourself there and see the barrier reef and some things like that.

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Thanks! Leaning toward IM Malaysia--my coach thinks it would be a better fit and I really like the location. Taiwan would be kind of a PITA--it's on an island with limited transport for people and bikes. Sounds tricky to arrange from afar. I am having enough trouble with putting together spring break and accommodation for IM Vietnam--my bank just decided to cancel my card as it thought all those overseas charges were "fraud".Now it will take $60 of hold on an international line to get back use of my card. Called last night and was told "45-60 minutes wait time to speak to a banker", then my phone card ran out. Grrr....

Not sure about your bike. I'm about 5'7" but lanky--pretty much all arms and legs. Most people think I'm a lot taller than I actually am, for that reason. Probably would not be a good fit. I think for full IM it is better to use my own bike. If I do Challenge Wanaka next year (the HIM) might end up renting a bike to save money and make onward travel more convenient. I think for three hours, I'd be OK on a rental, especially if I could put on my own seat and pedals. 180 km, not so much!

Where are you located in Australia (closet major city/airport, and relative to IMWA)? Still not clear exactly where Mom wants to travel and what airport we would be flying into/out of. I think she doesn't have a real concept of how big the country is and how far various things are from each other.

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2018-02-25 8:37 PM
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Originally posted by Hot Runner

Thanks! Leaning toward IM Malaysia--my coach thinks it would be a better fit and I really like the location. Taiwan would be kind of a PITA--it's on an island with limited transport for people and bikes. Sounds tricky to arrange from afar. I am having enough trouble with putting together spring break and accommodation for IM Vietnam--my bank just decided to cancel my card as it thought all those overseas charges were "fraud".Now it will take $60 of hold on an international line to get back use of my card. Called last night and was told "45-60 minutes wait time to speak to a banker", then my phone card ran out. Grrr....

Not sure about your bike. I'm about 5'7" but lanky--pretty much all arms and legs. Most people think I'm a lot taller than I actually am, for that reason. Probably would not be a good fit. I think for full IM it is better to use my own bike. If I do Challenge Wanaka next year (the HIM) might end up renting a bike to save money and make onward travel more convenient. I think for three hours, I'd be OK on a rental, especially if I could put on my own seat and pedals. 180 km, not so much!

Where are you located in Australia (closet major city/airport, and relative to IMWA)? Still not clear exactly where Mom wants to travel and what airport we would be flying into/out of. I think she doesn't have a real concept of how big the country is and how far various things are from each other.
I live in Perth - the capital city of WA. Busselton is about 2.5 hours drive away so you need to hire a car to get there as there isnt public transport.
2018-02-25 10:16 PM
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DH booked our flight to Santa Rosa. He went with United because it was cheaper than Southwest. However, the charges for my bike would be $175 each way on United! That's $115 more than our round trip tickets! Last year on SW they charged me going to San Diego but not coming back so it was only $75.

So now my question - Do I fly with my bike or use Tribike Transport, which would actually be cheaper.

Thoughts?


2018-02-26 5:29 AM
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I think you'd be better off with TriBike Transport. Jealous as I've never had that option since I live overseas. Just one less thing to worry about and lug through airports, especially after the race when you're tired. I hate checking the bike--different airlines and countries all seem to have different ideas about things like whether the power meter battery, and some of my tools, are okay, etc. Plus the airlines here are inconsistent about charges--occasionally I've gone through a line and been charged (or not) and a friend on the same flight and same airline is charged differently, or not at all!
2018-02-26 6:58 AM
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Originally posted by abake
Originally posted by jmkizer

Racing Manatees!!!

February 24-25
Jen - Arctic 10k
Stacey - Swissmurdie Trail 12k on Sunday

February 28 is Lisa's birthday

Good luck racing Manatees! Happy early birthday Lisa!

Go Jen and Stacey!

Happy early bday Lisa!

Thanks - mine was a trail run and it rained the entire day leading into it and during the race, so it was a muddy mess.  Fun though

2018-02-26 7:17 AM
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Question of the week:

Who has a power meter? Do you find it to be helpful with training? Do you find it t be helpful when racing?




Trying to catch up!

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2018-02-26 8:05 AM
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Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition Now CLOSED

Originally posted by Hot Runner Well, not doing IMAZ since it is already full except for $1400 charity slots. Seriously, I think I will just fly back to Asia and do IM Malaysia in November. I kind of had my heart set on doing that or Taiwan as a first IM anyway, if not Challenge Wanaka, and I have a friend doing it. Wanaka full is out--just too hideous to train through most of an Idaho winter for an IM in February! Mom still wants to go to Australia--possible we might combine racing and pleasure and figure out a way to "park" the bike in Singapore and fly to/from there to Australia after the race after a few days of R and R. Or maybe just work it in at the end of this school year.

Well, there you have it! IM Malaysia it is

 

2018-02-26 8:09 AM
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Originally posted by fortissimo DH booked our flight to Santa Rosa. He went with United because it was cheaper than Southwest. However, the charges for my bike would be $175 each way on United! That's $115 more than our round trip tickets! Last year on SW they charged me going to San Diego but not coming back so it was only $75. So now my question - Do I fly with my bike or use Tribike Transport, which would actually be cheaper. Thoughts?

Tribike Transport provides a good service. If it's cheaper, do it!

Do you have access to a bike other than the one you are using for the race? If not, talk to your coach so that he understands that you will be without a bike for your taper.



2018-02-26 8:12 AM
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Originally posted by fortissimo DH booked our flight to Santa Rosa. He went with United because it was cheaper than Southwest. However, the charges for my bike would be $175 each way on United! That's $115 more than our round trip tickets! Last year on SW they charged me going to San Diego but not coming back so it was only $75. So now my question - Do I fly with my bike or use Tribike Transport, which would actually be cheaper. Thoughts?

I've never had to fly with my bike, but I saw all the happy people at Louisville who used a bike transport company (I think it was Tribike). They were set up right next to transition and did all the putting back and tweaking of the bike.  Made me think if I ever had to fly to a race I'd use them, so I didn't have to worry about my bike. 

2018-02-26 9:38 AM
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I am kind of surprised. I thought I was the only Manatee that didn't have a power meter.

Nope, I'm in your camp, too!

2018-02-26 10:01 AM
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Originally posted by ceilidh

I am kind of surprised. I thought I was the only Manatee that didn't have a power meter.

Nope, I'm in your camp, too!

Me three

2018-02-26 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by melbo55

Originally posted by ceilidh

I am kind of surprised. I thought I was the only Manatee that didn't have a power meter.

Nope, I'm in your camp, too!

Me three

pretty skewed to no PM! Though I am seriously considering one b/c I haven't spent enough $$ on the sport this year 

2018-02-26 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by amd723

Originally posted by fortissimo DH booked our flight to Santa Rosa. He went with United because it was cheaper than Southwest. However, the charges for my bike would be $175 each way on United! That's $115 more than our round trip tickets! Last year on SW they charged me going to San Diego but not coming back so it was only $75. So now my question - Do I fly with my bike or use Tribike Transport, which would actually be cheaper. Thoughts?

I've never had to fly with my bike, but I saw all the happy people at Louisville who used a bike transport company (I think it was Tribike). They were set up right next to transition and did all the putting back and tweaking of the bike.  Made me think if I ever had to fly to a race I'd use them, so I didn't have to worry about my bike. 

I used TriBike for IMChoo. If I ever fly to another race I would use them again, no doubt. It was so easy. Set up the transport, drop the bike off at a shop a couple weeks before the race, pick up the bike at athlete check in. We didn't use TBT for the return trip but I have no doubt that would have been easy to manage as well.



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URGH sorry guys - I'm so busy at work I think I missed some of my favorite topics -

so real quick:
1. Powermeter - I went with best bang for the buck and got a power2max. then I got one for DH. It's great. The only part I don't like is changing the battery. I have to take the whole crankset off. But luckily it's not that often. I'll do it before ironman's or when the battery starts to show loss of life. What I learned about using a power meter is that my "easy" was too easy.

2. nutrition - I love infinit. So easy. IT's really not a hard concept. Do the math (to start) - based on weight how many calories should you need and how much sodium and start there and adjust up or down based on trials. You have no choice but to do trials and that is a little expensive but once you dial it in - all you need to think about on the bike is "keep drinking." As to UCAN - you have to be metabolically efficient to survive on that little calories and I don't know many people who are. Not to mention it tastes terrible.

I'll be back

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2018-02-26 3:26 PM
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Originally posted by mtnbikerchk URGH sorry guys - I'm so busy at work I think I missed some of my favorite topics - so real quick: 1. Powermeter - I went with best bang for the buck and got a power2max. then I got one for DH. It's great. The only part I don't like is changing the battery. I have to take the whole crankset off. But luckily it's not that often. I'll do it before ironman's or when the battery starts to show loss of life. What I learned about using a power meter is that my "easy" was too easy. 2. nutrition - I love infinit. So easy. IT's really not a hard concept. Do the math (to start) - based on weight how many calories should you need and how much sodium and start there and adjust up or down based on trials. You have no choice but to do trials and that is a little expensive but once you dial it in - all you need to think about on the bike is "keep drinking." As to UCAN - you have to be metabolically efficient to survive on that little calories and I don't know many people who are. Not to mention it tastes terrible. I'll be back

Funny, I used it Sunday and thought it tasted pretty good!  Guess I'll see how metabolically efficient I am!

2018-02-27 7:40 AM
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Originally posted by amd723

Originally posted by rrrunner

Originally posted by melbo55

Originally posted by ceilidh

I am kind of surprised. I thought I was the only Manatee that didn't have a power meter.

Nope, I'm in your camp, too!

Me three

pretty skewed to no PM! Though I am seriously considering one b/c I haven't spent enough $$ on the sport this year 

That made me giggle. Especially since it is only February

2018-02-28 9:56 AM
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I'm sure that many of you get tons of triathlon and running newsletters. I was getting so many that I finally had to unsubscribe to most of them because they were jamming up my inbox. When I get home, I really don't want to deal with Even More Email.  Anyway, I one of the newsletters that I kept had a thing in it last with about a product called Fuel for Fire. I read the description (Coach Chris loves these for her kids...and now she can have them for herself! These pureed fruit and protein packs are great for a pre-workout boost, or during a long bike ride or run. Thanks goodness they are resealable (unlike all those messy gels and powders). You can also have this as a great post-work out treat or a snack on-the-go.) and clicked through -- $3.50/pack! Um... Not gonna happen.

Then I thought to myself, surely there is a way to do this on your own? I found these and these reusable food pouches. Now I need to come up with recipes.



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I'm sure that many of you get tons of triathlon and running newsletters. I was getting so many that I finally had to unsubscribe to most of them because they were jamming up my inbox. When I get home, I really don't want to deal with Even More Email.  Anyway, I one of the newsletters that I kept had a thing in it last with about a product called Fuel for Fire. I read the description (Coach Chris loves these for her kids...and now she can have them for herself! These pureed fruit and protein packs are great for a pre-workout boost, or during a long bike ride or run. Thanks goodness they are resealable (unlike all those messy gels and powders). You can also have this as a great post-work out treat or a snack on-the-go.) and clicked through -- $3.50/pack! Um... Not gonna happen.

Then I thought to myself, surely there is a way to do this on your own? I found these and these reusable food pouches. Now I need to come up with recipes.

I just did a search on pureed foods. There are millions of recipes. Everything from fruits, veggies, and Meats (ick). Baby food recipes look and so do the ones for elderly and cancer patients because they add protein powder and are high calorie. They would be good for fueling. Any smoothie recipe would be good too. Nice find!



2018-02-28 10:25 AM
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I'm sure that many of you get tons of triathlon and running newsletters. I was getting so many that I finally had to unsubscribe to most of them because they were jamming up my inbox. When I get home, I really don't want to deal with Even More Email.  Anyway, I one of the newsletters that I kept had a thing in it last with about a product called Fuel for Fire. I read the description (Coach Chris loves these for her kids...and now she can have them for herself! These pureed fruit and protein packs are great for a pre-workout boost, or during a long bike ride or run. Thanks goodness they are resealable (unlike all those messy gels and powders). You can also have this as a great post-work out treat or a snack on-the-go.) and clicked through -- $3.50/pack! Um... Not gonna happen.

Then I thought to myself, surely there is a way to do this on your own? I found these and these reusable food pouches. Now I need to come up with recipes.

That is pricey!  I've never used a gel flask, so this may be a dumb question, but how are those pouches different from a gel flask? 

2018-02-28 10:26 AM
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Originally posted by ceilidh

Originally posted by amd723

Originally posted by rrrunner

Originally posted by melbo55

Originally posted by ceilidh

I am kind of surprised. I thought I was the only Manatee that didn't have a power meter.

Nope, I'm in your camp, too!

Me three

pretty skewed to no PM! Though I am seriously considering one b/c I haven't spent enough $$ on the sport this year 

That made me giggle. Especially since it is only February

I may have a problem  

2018-02-28 10:28 AM
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I use something like this for honey:

Simple travel sized containers. Dishwasher safe and small enough to fit in my pant leg when I head out of T1. I wonder if that night work as well. Or how soft would your puree have to be???? I can see where a longer race would require too many of these, so it may not do you too well.

2018-02-28 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by amd723

Originally posted by jmkizer

I'm sure that many of you get tons of triathlon and running newsletters. I was getting so many that I finally had to unsubscribe to most of them because they were jamming up my inbox. When I get home, I really don't want to deal with Even More Email.  Anyway, I one of the newsletters that I kept had a thing in it last with about a product called Fuel for Fire. I read the description (Coach Chris loves these for her kids...and now she can have them for herself! These pureed fruit and protein packs are great for a pre-workout boost, or during a long bike ride or run. Thanks goodness they are resealable (unlike all those messy gels and powders). You can also have this as a great post-work out treat or a snack on-the-go.) and clicked through -- $3.50/pack! Um... Not gonna happen.

Then I thought to myself, surely there is a way to do this on your own? I found these and these reusable food pouches. Now I need to come up with recipes.

That is pricey!  I've never used a gel flask, so this may be a dumb question, but how are those pouches different from a gel flask? 

They probably aren't different. I guess just different form factors depending on how you want to use them. Just mulling things over.

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