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 2016-05-27 1:07 PM in reply to: 0 |
Master  6595     Rio Rancho, NM |  Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deuxOriginally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 Originally posted by marysia83 Originally posted by brigby1 This is so interesting. For me DL makes me think of truck drivers (CDL). Originally posted by melbo55 Originally posted by jmkizer Racing Manatees!!! May 28-30 Disabled List I'm thinking of renaming this Injured Reserve. I think that it's more appropriate but I do like saying, "the DL." Thoughts? GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO RACERS!!! McMatt's gonna be a busy boy! Yanti, heal up, dear. Laura, I hope your progress is continuing! DL, IR, doesn't matter to me but IR always makes me think of infared. First thought for me too. These are fun when you have people from various aspects of medical fields together. What does "In Vitro" have to do with post race activities?? Development Lot and Investor Relations (once upon a time would have been Infrared). In vitro, as well. My brain getting ahead of my mind, with pattern recognition over thought. Is fun, though... As to what we use, PUP or otherwise, let's just have fewer people on it. Matt Who's on the Down Low? Someone in for Draft Legal? I work with Intravenous stuff (what the abbreviation actually meant there) so thinking the other one was weird, although once in awhile In Vitro comes through. So, in other words, just keep it as it is now and hope that we don't have to use it, is that right? All I know is that I work in an acronym rich environment. I'm in favor of never walking into another meeting and playing acronym bingo again. Actuall conversation this week at work: "Did the VPN to FIS FUBAR this weekend?" "IT has NC on this." "Well, there's another CLM from the ITD." You want acronyms? I got acronyms! I'm fed and my kid is military. Edited by rrrunner 2016-05-27 1:08 PM |
| 2016-05-27 1:12 PM in reply to: rrrunner |
Pro 6520 Bellingham, WA | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by rrrunner Coach Scott sent me an "intake form". A 15 page questionnaire about medical history, training background, etc. I'm sure I did one the first time I worked with him but I don't remember it being that long. Anyway, a couple of the questions: 2) When I have a bad workout, I: a) lament on FB, b) analyze the training data to look where things went wrong c) get back out there and do it again d) google, there must be an explanation e) take an extra recovery day, its not that big of a deal 3) What's blaring through your earbuds before a race? a)"Happy" by Pharrell b) a voicemail from my coach reviewing the race plan c) "Thunderstruck" by AC/DC d) Nothing - I like to find a quiet place in transition, close my eyes and visualize e) a recording of my children singing and laughing
And the questions go on. It feels like an athletic dating site
That seems like a pretty long questionnaire but I guess gives him some insight about you that might be helpful. And the answer to number 3 is Thunderstruck all the way. |
Too funny.
| 2016-05-27 1:13 PM in reply to: IronOx |
Veteran 2842  Austin, Texas | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by IronOx TJ thanks for the lesson. I think I learned Memorial vs Veterans last year in here but I had no idea about the flags. Yes, thanks TJ. I recall the difference between Memorial Day vs. Veterans' Day being described to me when I was kid more or less as follows. Veterans Day is when we have parades and celebrate the living who serve/served. Memorial Day is when we go to the cemetery, place flags and remember the ones we've lost. Both important (Navy family). Still kinda choke up thinking back on that... Matt |
| 2016-05-27 1:20 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
| 93 Chicago, Illinois | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by jmkizer Racing Manatees!!! May 28-30 Disabled List I'm thinking of renaming this Injured Reserve. I think that it's more appropriate but I do like saying, "the DL." Thoughts? Let's go Racer's, Hope you have a great weekend!!!! DLer's get better soon. Jayne, you do a great job digging through everyone's stuff to find the races. Is there anyway we could make it easier for you? Maybe a manatee's google calendar or something? |
| 2016-05-27 1:23 PM in reply to: rrrunner |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by melbo55 Originally posted by jmkizer Racing Manatees!!! May 28-30 Disabled List I'm thinking of renaming this Injured Reserve. I think that it's more appropriate but I do like saying, "the DL." Thoughts? GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO RACERS!!! McMatt's gonna be a busy boy! Yanti, heal up, dear. Laura, I hope your progress is continuing! DL, IR, doesn't matter to me but IR always makes me think of infared. First thought for me too. These are fun when you have people from various aspects of medical fields together. What does "In Vitro" have to do with post race activities?? T2, or Title II, is a Money Laundering statute Taking 2 to eleven ... |
| 2016-05-27 1:28 PM in reply to: rrrunner |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by rrrunner You want acronyms? I got acronyms! I'm fed and my kid is military. Winner! |
| 2016-05-27 1:29 PM in reply to: cdban66 |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by rrrunner You want acronyms? I got acronyms! I'm fed and my kid is military. Winner! Don't you mean ftw? |
| 2016-05-27 1:29 PM in reply to: mcmanusclan5 |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux I now have another big long thing to ruminate on while pedaling away this weekend. Thanks, I reserve the right to answer in a few days. |
| 2016-05-27 1:30 PM in reply to: brigby1 |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by rrrunner You want acronyms? I got acronyms! I'm fed and my kid is military. Winner! Don't you mean ftw? New winner! |
| 2016-05-27 1:33 PM in reply to: emcmino |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by emcmino Originally posted by jmkizer Let's go Racer's, Hope you have a great weekend!!!! DLer's get better soon. Jayne, you do a great job digging through everyone's stuff to find the races. Is there anyway we could make it easier for you? Maybe a manatee's google calendar or something? Racing Manatees!!! May 28-30 Disabled List I'm thinking of renaming this Injured Reserve. I think that it's more appropriate but I do like saying, "the DL." Thoughts? If everyone could put their stuff on their page in the same place it would help. Dates help too (I'm looking at you, Jim!). Actually, in BT if you put your races on your BT calendar and I add you to my friends, it shows up on my friends page.
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| 2016-05-27 1:36 PM in reply to: popsracer |
Master 4119 Toronto Bronze member | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by popsracer Originally posted by rrrunner Coach Scott sent me an "intake form". A 15 page questionnaire about medical history, training background, etc. I'm sure I did one the first time I worked with him but I don't remember it being that long. Anyway, a couple of the questions: 2) When I have a bad workout, I: a) lament on FB, b) analyze the training data to look where things went wrong c) get back out there and do it again d) google, there must be an explanation e) take an extra recovery day, its not that big of a deal 3) What's blaring through your earbuds before a race? a)"Happy" by Pharrell b) a voicemail from my coach reviewing the race plan c) "Thunderstruck" by AC/DC d) Nothing - I like to find a quiet place in transition, close my eyes and visualize e) a recording of my children singing and laughing
And the questions go on. It feels like an athletic dating site
That seems like a pretty long questionnaire but I guess gives him some insight about you that might be helpful. And the answer to number 3 is Thunderstruck all the way. ooh ooh, I'll play! I think immediately Kelly Clarkson's 'Fighter' because it was popular the year I did IM and it seems like a perfect tri song! :D |
| 2016-05-27 1:47 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
Veteran 2842 Austin, Texas | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by jmkizer Racing Manatees!!! May 28-30 Disabled List I'm thinking of renaming this Injured Reserve. I think that it's more appropriate but I do like saying, "the DL." Thoughts? GO RACERS! Heal DL/IR/Whatever-ers - just get better! (and this is an example of how fast this thread moves - already several pages on!) Matt |
| 2016-05-27 1:49 PM in reply to: juniperjen |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by juniperjen Originally posted by popsracer Originally posted by rrrunner Coach Scott sent me an "intake form". A 15 page questionnaire about medical history, training background, etc. I'm sure I did one the first time I worked with him but I don't remember it being that long. Anyway, a couple of the questions: 2) When I have a bad workout, I: a) lament on FB, b) analyze the training data to look where things went wrong c) get back out there and do it again d) google, there must be an explanation e) take an extra recovery day, its not that big of a deal 3) What's blaring through your earbuds before a race? a)"Happy" by Pharrell b) a voicemail from my coach reviewing the race plan c) "Thunderstruck" by AC/DC d) Nothing - I like to find a quiet place in transition, close my eyes and visualize e) a recording of my children singing and laughing
And the questions go on. It feels like an athletic dating site
That seems like a pretty long questionnaire but I guess gives him some insight about you that might be helpful. And the answer to number 3 is Thunderstruck all the way. ooh ooh, I'll play! I think immediately Kelly Clarkson's 'Fighter' because it was popular the year I did IM and it seems like a perfect tri song! :D See, right away I thought "Lose Yourself" - Eminem because that's what they play(ed) at the B2B full start. |
| 2016-05-27 1:52 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master 6595 Rio Rancho, NM | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by juniperjen Originally posted by popsracer Originally posted by rrrunner Coach Scott sent me an "intake form". A 15 page questionnaire about medical history, training background, etc. I'm sure I did one the first time I worked with him but I don't remember it being that long. Anyway, a couple of the questions: 2) When I have a bad workout, I: a) lament on FB, b) analyze the training data to look where things went wrong c) get back out there and do it again d) google, there must be an explanation e) take an extra recovery day, its not that big of a deal 3) What's blaring through your earbuds before a race? a)"Happy" by Pharrell b) a voicemail from my coach reviewing the race plan c) "Thunderstruck" by AC/DC d) Nothing - I like to find a quiet place in transition, close my eyes and visualize e) a recording of my children singing and laughing
And the questions go on. It feels like an athletic dating site
That seems like a pretty long questionnaire but I guess gives him some insight about you that might be helpful. And the answer to number 3 is Thunderstruck all the way. ooh ooh, I'll play! I think immediately Kelly Clarkson's 'Fighter' because it was popular the year I did IM and it seems like a perfect tri song! :D See, right away I thought "Lose Yourself" - Eminem because that's what they play(ed) at the B2B full start. "Lose Yourself" and "Till I Collapse" are a couple of my faves for running but I don't really have any pre-race music. I like to walk (or stand) around and take in the atmosphere. |
| 2016-05-27 1:57 PM in reply to: brigby1 |
Veteran 2842 Austin, Texas | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by rrrunner You want acronyms? I got acronyms! I'm fed and my kid is military. Winner! Don't you mean ftw? That right there is funny. |
| 2016-05-27 2:05 PM in reply to: mcmanusclan5 |
| 812 Katy, Texas | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 Philosophical Phriday (must be the crud weather that's got me to thinking - which The Better Half will tell you is rarely a good thing). It's about balance and why we talk about it so much in triathlon. I'm something of a serial obsessionist, moving every few years to a new area of interest until I become proficient and then moving on. Nothing intentional, just the way life has gone for me and my natural tendency/predisposition. Most of my previous pursuits have been things that I can continue to do as a dilatant. Fly fishing, skiing, duck/goose/other hunting, etc. - I can do all these "well enough" still to be able to participate for a day, with no prep, on a vacation or the like and acquit myself well enough to be safe and have fun. Triathlon, flying (and the practice of medicine, in some ways, which is why I now just "play one on TV") are different for me. Impossible to be "good" (as in, perform near enough to your potential to be "safe and have fun") at these without continuing and consistent practice. Mind you, I can't shred a slalom or GS course like I used to, but I can still get down the mountain with a certain élan even having not skied for a few years. Not so for me with tri. Tough to fake a 70.3, right? As such, I find flying and tri vexing. My mind & gut see them more as all or nothing propositions. I don't like this, as I'd like to find a way to stay in without having to put in so much time that it precludes other activities. With flying, and actively practicing medicine, I just won't, as someone will eventually get hurt. So, they're an easier "out." Tri, then, is about the only activity (after short reflection - maybe others I'm not remembering) on my personal list that on the one hand is not something that is easy to "learn" well enough to be able to pick up and do after a layoff (as it's as much or more fitness as skill), but on the other hand isn't something with severe enough consequences to poor performance (other than disappointment with finishing times!) to easily put on a shelf. Hence, it's the only thing I've been involved with that sucks me in and keeps me "unbalanced," as in spending the majority of time on it if I'm doing it at all. Most of the others, after spending a few years at them, allow me more casual participation. My worry, if one could call it that, is that I'll eventually drop this one pursuit so I have time to participate in many others. Does that resonate with others? I wonder if that's part of why folks spend a few years in tri and then move back to single sport pursuits or to other things, or if this is all espresso induced Friday silliness on my part. Of course, it's not so black and white as all that, but what say you? Matt I can relate to all of this (well other than being a pilot and a Dr - nice front door brags there - just messing with ya  My progression has been fishing (wading saltwater flats), then duck hunting which led me into retriever training, then nothing for awhile when my kids were babies, then into triathlon. I wondered if after doing the IM I'd want to move onto something different or not, but I haven't felt that way at all. I think it has to do with what you touched on, I don't think I've even gotten close to mastering this sport yet, so I feel like I've still got a challenge ahead of me. But I do know me, and I wonder how long it will be before I get bored with it or merely find something else that piques my interest more. |
| 2016-05-27 2:08 PM in reply to: rrrunner |
Veteran 1900 Southampton, Ontario | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux My prerace routine usually involves sitting quietly under a tree contemplating the preparation and hours and hours of time spent training leading up until then. I tried music but found that it led to heightened anxiety. Once at the line I basically repeatedly tell myself not to go out too fast - hasnt stopped me once though. Disabled List - my first thought was Gimp List but having looked it up I guess its a bit of a derogatory term |
| 2016-05-27 2:09 PM in reply to: 0 |
Pro 6520 Bellingham, WA | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by juniperjen Originally posted by popsracer Originally posted by rrrunner Coach Scott sent me an "intake form". A 15 page questionnaire about medical history, training background, etc. I'm sure I did one the first time I worked with him but I don't remember it being that long. Anyway, a couple of the questions: 2) When I have a bad workout, I: a) lament on FB, b) analyze the training data to look where things went wrong c) get back out there and do it again d) google, there must be an explanation e) take an extra recovery day, its not that big of a deal 3) What's blaring through your earbuds before a race? a)"Happy" by Pharrell b) a voicemail from my coach reviewing the race plan c) "Thunderstruck" by AC/DC d) Nothing - I like to find a quiet place in transition, close my eyes and visualize e) a recording of my children singing and laughing
And the questions go on. It feels like an athletic dating site
That seems like a pretty long questionnaire but I guess gives him some insight about you that might be helpful. And the answer to number 3 is Thunderstruck all the way. ooh ooh, I'll play! I think immediately Kelly Clarkson's 'Fighter' because it was popular the year I did IM and it seems like a perfect tri song! :D See, right away I thought "Lose Yourself" - Eminem because that's what they play(ed) at the B2B full start. "Lose Yourself" and "Till I Collapse" are a couple of my faves for running but I don't really have any pre-race music. I like to walk (or stand) around and take in the atmosphere. Well, I really hate to admit it but Katy Perry's Roar gets me going before a race....."you're gonna hear me roar". lol Edited by popsracer 2016-05-27 2:09 PM |
| 2016-05-27 2:12 PM in reply to: Jet Black |
Veteran 2842 Austin, Texas | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by Jet Black Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 I can relate to all of this (well other than being a pilot and a Dr - nice front door brags there - just messing with ya Philosophical Phriday (must be the crud weather that's got me to thinking - which The Better Half will tell you is rarely a good thing). It's about balance and why we talk about it so much in triathlon. I'm something of a serial obsessionist, moving every few years to a new area of interest until I become proficient and then moving on. Nothing intentional, just the way life has gone for me and my natural tendency/predisposition. Most of my previous pursuits have been things that I can continue to do as a dilatant. Fly fishing, skiing, duck/goose/other hunting, etc. - I can do all these "well enough" still to be able to participate for a day, with no prep, on a vacation or the like and acquit myself well enough to be safe and have fun. Triathlon, flying (and the practice of medicine, in some ways, which is why I now just "play one on TV") are different for me. Impossible to be "good" (as in, perform near enough to your potential to be "safe and have fun") at these without continuing and consistent practice. Mind you, I can't shred a slalom or GS course like I used to, but I can still get down the mountain with a certain élan even having not skied for a few years. Not so for me with tri. Tough to fake a 70.3, right? As such, I find flying and tri vexing. My mind & gut see them more as all or nothing propositions. I don't like this, as I'd like to find a way to stay in without having to put in so much time that it precludes other activities. With flying, and actively practicing medicine, I just won't, as someone will eventually get hurt. So, they're an easier "out." Tri, then, is about the only activity (after short reflection - maybe others I'm not remembering) on my personal list that on the one hand is not something that is easy to "learn" well enough to be able to pick up and do after a layoff (as it's as much or more fitness as skill), but on the other hand isn't something with severe enough consequences to poor performance (other than disappointment with finishing times!) to easily put on a shelf. Hence, it's the only thing I've been involved with that sucks me in and keeps me "unbalanced," as in spending the majority of time on it if I'm doing it at all. Most of the others, after spending a few years at them, allow me more casual participation. My worry, if one could call it that, is that I'll eventually drop this one pursuit so I have time to participate in many others. Does that resonate with others? I wonder if that's part of why folks spend a few years in tri and then move back to single sport pursuits or to other things, or if this is all espresso induced Friday silliness on my part. Of course, it's not so black and white as all that, but what say you? Matt My progression has been fishing (wading saltwater flats), then duck hunting which led me into retriever training, then nothing for awhile when my kids were babies, then into triathlon. I wondered if after doing the IM I'd want to move onto something different or not, but I haven't felt that way at all. I think it has to do with what you touched on, I don't think I've even gotten close to mastering this sport yet, so I feel like I've still got a challenge ahead of me. But I do know me, and I wonder how long it will be before I get bored with it or merely find something else that piques my interest more. Perhaps most importantly, do you still duck hunt?? Seriously, if you can make it as far as Garwood, I'm on a few fields down there in season and would love company in the blind. The tough part is that it always messes with weekend training! We still get out a few times a season, though. Matt |
| 2016-05-27 2:20 PM in reply to: popsracer |
Master 2429 Falls Church, Virginia | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by popsracer Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by juniperjen Originally posted by popsracer Originally posted by rrrunner Coach Scott sent me an "intake form". A 15 page questionnaire about medical history, training background, etc. I'm sure I did one the first time I worked with him but I don't remember it being that long. Anyway, a couple of the questions: 2) When I have a bad workout, I: a) lament on FB, b) analyze the training data to look where things went wrong c) get back out there and do it again d) google, there must be an explanation e) take an extra recovery day, its not that big of a deal 3) What's blaring through your earbuds before a race? a)"Happy" by Pharrell b) a voicemail from my coach reviewing the race plan c) "Thunderstruck" by AC/DC d) Nothing - I like to find a quiet place in transition, close my eyes and visualize e) a recording of my children singing and laughing
And the questions go on. It feels like an athletic dating site
That seems like a pretty long questionnaire but I guess gives him some insight about you that might be helpful. And the answer to number 3 is Thunderstruck all the way. ooh ooh, I'll play! I think immediately Kelly Clarkson's 'Fighter' because it was popular the year I did IM and it seems like a perfect tri song! :D See, right away I thought "Lose Yourself" - Eminem because that's what they play(ed) at the B2B full start. "Lose Yourself" and "Till I Collapse" are a couple of my faves for running but I don't really have any pre-race music. I like to walk (or stand) around and take in the atmosphere. Well, I really hate to admit it but Katy Perry's Roar gets me going before a race....."you're gonna hear me roar". lol I'm compiling my race day list this next week. Mostly stuff to listen to while getting ready and driving to the (rather close) venue, so just a few songs will do me fine. Once I'm there I'll likely unplug. I had forgotten about Roar, and that is a great one. Louder than a lion!!! |
| 2016-05-27 2:21 PM in reply to: Jet Black |
Pro 6520 Bellingham, WA | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by Jet Black Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 I can relate to all of this (well other than being a pilot and a Dr - nice front door brags there - just messing with ya Philosophical Phriday (must be the crud weather that's got me to thinking - which The Better Half will tell you is rarely a good thing). It's about balance and why we talk about it so much in triathlon. I'm something of a serial obsessionist, moving every few years to a new area of interest until I become proficient and then moving on. Nothing intentional, just the way life has gone for me and my natural tendency/predisposition. Most of my previous pursuits have been things that I can continue to do as a dilatant. Fly fishing, skiing, duck/goose/other hunting, etc. - I can do all these "well enough" still to be able to participate for a day, with no prep, on a vacation or the like and acquit myself well enough to be safe and have fun. Triathlon, flying (and the practice of medicine, in some ways, which is why I now just "play one on TV") are different for me. Impossible to be "good" (as in, perform near enough to your potential to be "safe and have fun") at these without continuing and consistent practice. Mind you, I can't shred a slalom or GS course like I used to, but I can still get down the mountain with a certain élan even having not skied for a few years. Not so for me with tri. Tough to fake a 70.3, right? As such, I find flying and tri vexing. My mind & gut see them more as all or nothing propositions. I don't like this, as I'd like to find a way to stay in without having to put in so much time that it precludes other activities. With flying, and actively practicing medicine, I just won't, as someone will eventually get hurt. So, they're an easier "out." Tri, then, is about the only activity (after short reflection - maybe others I'm not remembering) on my personal list that on the one hand is not something that is easy to "learn" well enough to be able to pick up and do after a layoff (as it's as much or more fitness as skill), but on the other hand isn't something with severe enough consequences to poor performance (other than disappointment with finishing times!) to easily put on a shelf. Hence, it's the only thing I've been involved with that sucks me in and keeps me "unbalanced," as in spending the majority of time on it if I'm doing it at all. Most of the others, after spending a few years at them, allow me more casual participation. My worry, if one could call it that, is that I'll eventually drop this one pursuit so I have time to participate in many others. Does that resonate with others? I wonder if that's part of why folks spend a few years in tri and then move back to single sport pursuits or to other things, or if this is all espresso induced Friday silliness on my part. Of course, it's not so black and white as all that, but what say you? Matt My progression has been fishing (wading saltwater flats), then duck hunting which led me into retriever training, then nothing for awhile when my kids were babies, then into triathlon. I wondered if after doing the IM I'd want to move onto something different or not, but I haven't felt that way at all. I think it has to do with what you touched on, I don't think I've even gotten close to mastering this sport yet, so I feel like I've still got a challenge ahead of me. But I do know me, and I wonder how long it will be before I get bored with it or merely find something else that piques my interest more. I've thought a lot about this over the years. More so recently as I've been forced to take time off and explore all those other things I never had time for. The fact of the matter is that there are so many familiar routines that I so dearly love within bike/swim/run and I long for the days when I can get in 10-12 workouts in during the week. More specifically, I love the trail routes that I run and even though I can only run a few miles at a time I go to my favorite trails and do an abbreviated version. Last night I got in 30 minutes on my trainer which is setup in front of a big screen with surround sound and I road along the last miles of one of the stages of the Tour of California off of Youtube. I can't wait to get into the small local lake I swim in. My 10 year old son said he would be my lifeguard and kayak next to me. And this is just the training. I love the atmosphere of a race whether it is a local 5k or IM. I fear I'm addicted for life. |
| 2016-05-27 2:31 PM in reply to: Jet Black |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by Jet Black Originally posted by brigby1 Yes, I guess I should have been more clear. I'd been doing hard intervals before, but I may only do them once or twice a week in addition to 1 or 2 fast group rides. The plan I'm following on trainerroad has me doing intervals 4x a week! They vary in length intensity obviously (not all are balls to the wall) and overall I'd say they're slightly easier than what I was doing, but the accumulating muscle fatigue in my legs is impressive! Tuesday was FTP test, 2x8' (this was obviously the hardest "workout" and recovering from it probably made the rest of the week's workouts even harder) Wednesday was 3x20' at 85% Thursday was 4x8' with 4 sprints within each 8' interval. Intervals ranged between 88%-94% and sprints were 5 seconds at 150-180%. Saturday is 5x10' at 95%-99%. Originally posted by Jet Black Originally posted by jmkizer Yeah, and if you end up getting that power meter (and I think you already have a trainer?), then I'd recommend getting a trainerroad subscription and just doing one of their plans. They've got triathlon specific ones with run & swim workouts too, plus the awesome bike workouts. And you can pick your volume for each plan too to really tailor it to your needs. I just started on there this week and I'm already amazed at how it's pushing me much more than I used to push myself, and I thought I was working pretty hard before. edit: Plus, the main trainer/workout planner for trainerroad replys to all training planning/succession question (or really any question) you have on the trainerroad thread on slowtwich. Pretty cool! Originally posted by melbo55 Thank you everyone for your tips and thoughts on power meters. I think it was MS Matt who mentioned it is worthless without someone who will read it - I agree. I was looking toward the future, not my current situation. Speaking of my current situation, I'm in the process of deciding if I'm dumping my coach starting in June. This is causing some apprehension as I have a HM mid-June I'm training for, not to mention events in July-Oct. I've got some thinking to do on both coaches and power meters! I have the impression that you haven't been happy with your current coach for a while. I hope that you work something out. As we've all said, you're worth it!
Hard days are not "moderately uncomfortable"! ETA: Should add that it's not really about burying oneself entirely with those. I'm trying to figure out how to better explain ways that things feel different with hitting some the hard workouts as high as I have been. Not just training benefits at that.  That is good to bring up with how much we tend to hear about the intensity of TR workouts. Those are actually lower than I thought they might be, but with 4 workouts above easy in a week, they would have to be. I'm only doing 2 hard ones, but they're quite polarized. Even with the 2x20' or that 35' fartlek of The Wretched, they'll end up being at FTP or over. The 3' intervals are getting up past 118%. What we're showing here is understanding a little larger picture of the schedule. I was thinking of how some felt they are agonizing doing some of the workouts you have, but on the schedule I'm doing. Doing 2 x 20' @85% or 4 x 8' ~90% shouldn't really be *that* hard when thinking about what these are a percent of. The "should" was more for me than for you to add anything, though that certainly did give a better picture! I don't want everything I say to be interpreted as going for broke or excruciating all the time. Closer to encouragement in getting through the tough days. |
| 2016-05-27 2:41 PM in reply to: brigby1 |
| 812 Katy, Texas | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by Jet Black Originally posted by brigby1 Yes, I guess I should have been more clear. I'd been doing hard intervals before, but I may only do them once or twice a week in addition to 1 or 2 fast group rides. The plan I'm following on trainerroad has me doing intervals 4x a week! They vary in length intensity obviously (not all are balls to the wall) and overall I'd say they're slightly easier than what I was doing, but the accumulating muscle fatigue in my legs is impressive! Tuesday was FTP test, 2x8' (this was obviously the hardest "workout" and recovering from it probably made the rest of the week's workouts even harder) Wednesday was 3x20' at 85% Thursday was 4x8' with 4 sprints within each 8' interval. Intervals ranged between 88%-94% and sprints were 5 seconds at 150-180%. Saturday is 5x10' at 95%-99%. Originally posted by Jet Black Originally posted by jmkizer Yeah, and if you end up getting that power meter (and I think you already have a trainer?), then I'd recommend getting a trainerroad subscription and just doing one of their plans. They've got triathlon specific ones with run & swim workouts too, plus the awesome bike workouts. And you can pick your volume for each plan too to really tailor it to your needs. I just started on there this week and I'm already amazed at how it's pushing me much more than I used to push myself, and I thought I was working pretty hard before. edit: Plus, the main trainer/workout planner for trainerroad replys to all training planning/succession question (or really any question) you have on the trainerroad thread on slowtwich. Pretty cool! Originally posted by melbo55 Thank you everyone for your tips and thoughts on power meters. I think it was MS Matt who mentioned it is worthless without someone who will read it - I agree. I was looking toward the future, not my current situation. Speaking of my current situation, I'm in the process of deciding if I'm dumping my coach starting in June. This is causing some apprehension as I have a HM mid-June I'm training for, not to mention events in July-Oct. I've got some thinking to do on both coaches and power meters! I have the impression that you haven't been happy with your current coach for a while. I hope that you work something out. As we've all said, you're worth it!
Hard days are not "moderately uncomfortable"! ETA: Should add that it's not really about burying oneself entirely with those. I'm trying to figure out how to better explain ways that things feel different with hitting some the hard workouts as high as I have been. Not just training benefits at that. That is good to bring up with how much we tend to hear about the intensity of TR workouts. Those are actually lower than I thought they might be, but with 4 workouts above easy in a week, they would have to be. I'm only doing 2 hard ones, but they're quite polarized. Even with the 2x20' or that 35' fartlek of The Wretched, they'll end up being at FTP or over. The 3' intervals are getting up past 118%. What we're showing here is understanding a little larger picture of the schedule. I was thinking of how some felt they are agonizing doing some of the workouts you have, but on the schedule I'm doing. Doing 2 x 20' @85% or 4 x 8' ~90% shouldn't really be *that* hard when thinking about what these are a percent of. The "should" was more for me than for you to add anything, though that certainly did give a better picture! I don't want everything I say to be interpreted as going for broke or excruciating all the time. Closer to encouragement in getting through the tough days. All good points. I also should have noted that I'm currently on a 6 week "sweet spot base" plan, so the sessions make sense in that perspective. I'm sure the intervals will change in intensity/duration when I move onto the build and specialty plans. |
| 2016-05-27 2:51 PM in reply to: mcmanusclan5 |
| 812 Katy, Texas | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 Originally posted by Jet Black Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 I can relate to all of this (well other than being a pilot and a Dr - nice front door brags there - just messing with ya Philosophical Phriday (must be the crud weather that's got me to thinking - which The Better Half will tell you is rarely a good thing). It's about balance and why we talk about it so much in triathlon. I'm something of a serial obsessionist, moving every few years to a new area of interest until I become proficient and then moving on. Nothing intentional, just the way life has gone for me and my natural tendency/predisposition. Most of my previous pursuits have been things that I can continue to do as a dilatant. Fly fishing, skiing, duck/goose/other hunting, etc. - I can do all these "well enough" still to be able to participate for a day, with no prep, on a vacation or the like and acquit myself well enough to be safe and have fun. Triathlon, flying (and the practice of medicine, in some ways, which is why I now just "play one on TV") are different for me. Impossible to be "good" (as in, perform near enough to your potential to be "safe and have fun") at these without continuing and consistent practice. Mind you, I can't shred a slalom or GS course like I used to, but I can still get down the mountain with a certain élan even having not skied for a few years. Not so for me with tri. Tough to fake a 70.3, right? As such, I find flying and tri vexing. My mind & gut see them more as all or nothing propositions. I don't like this, as I'd like to find a way to stay in without having to put in so much time that it precludes other activities. With flying, and actively practicing medicine, I just won't, as someone will eventually get hurt. So, they're an easier "out." Tri, then, is about the only activity (after short reflection - maybe others I'm not remembering) on my personal list that on the one hand is not something that is easy to "learn" well enough to be able to pick up and do after a layoff (as it's as much or more fitness as skill), but on the other hand isn't something with severe enough consequences to poor performance (other than disappointment with finishing times!) to easily put on a shelf. Hence, it's the only thing I've been involved with that sucks me in and keeps me "unbalanced," as in spending the majority of time on it if I'm doing it at all. Most of the others, after spending a few years at them, allow me more casual participation. My worry, if one could call it that, is that I'll eventually drop this one pursuit so I have time to participate in many others. Does that resonate with others? I wonder if that's part of why folks spend a few years in tri and then move back to single sport pursuits or to other things, or if this is all espresso induced Friday silliness on my part. Of course, it's not so black and white as all that, but what say you? Matt My progression has been fishing (wading saltwater flats), then duck hunting which led me into retriever training, then nothing for awhile when my kids were babies, then into triathlon. I wondered if after doing the IM I'd want to move onto something different or not, but I haven't felt that way at all. I think it has to do with what you touched on, I don't think I've even gotten close to mastering this sport yet, so I feel like I've still got a challenge ahead of me. But I do know me, and I wonder how long it will be before I get bored with it or merely find something else that piques my interest more. Perhaps most importantly, do you still duck hunt?? Seriously, if you can make it as far as Garwood, I'm on a few fields down there in season and would love company in the blind. The tough part is that it always messes with weekend training! We still get out a few times a season, though. Matt I still love to duck hunt but haven't done much since my kids were born (got off my lease). I did enough to where my oldest is ate up with it though. I would absolutely love to join you, just let me know!! Thanks! |
| 2016-05-27 3:13 PM in reply to: amd723 |
| Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by rrrunner Coach Scott sent me an "intake form". A 15 page questionnaire about medical history, training background, etc. I'm sure I did one the first time I worked with him but I don't remember it being that long. Anyway, a couple of the questions: 2) When I have a bad workout, I: a) lament on FB, b) analyze the training data to look where things went wrong c) get back out there and do it again d) google, there must be an explanation e) take an extra recovery day, its not that big of a deal 3) What's blaring through your earbuds before a race? a)"Happy" by Pharrell b) a voicemail from my coach reviewing the race plan c) "Thunderstruck" by AC/DC d) Nothing - I like to find a quiet place in transition, close my eyes and visualize e) a recording of my children singing and laughing
And the questions go on. It feels like an athletic dating site
This is hysterical! I hate questions like those because, I think, I don't like questions where there is no correct answer and I like to be correct Yes!! For example, I have 3 answers that I feel would be correct for #2 given a particular day or circumstance. Good luck, TJ! |
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