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 2013-08-21 12:26 PM in reply to: marcag |
 Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again...Originally posted by marcag Originally posted by Experior Is the run that loop in Henderson? For ITU worlds a few years ago we had to run that stupid loop four times. Quite possibly the worst running experience (racing) in my life, and I include my IMWI run where I puked some untold number of times. However, I would probably go back. I'm an east coast guy and going to the west coast feels like traveling to the moon, which is kind of interesting. Yep, that's the one We only do 3 loops :-) But if I am not mistaken, ITU worlds were end of Oct/Nov. September is even toastier. Yes, timing was much different. Living in L.A., I know that Vegas worlds is not "Vegas," running down the strip, that would be cool! |
| 2013-08-21 12:27 PM in reply to: TSimone |
| Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Originally posted by TSimone What is your travel schedule for IMC? Flying to Vancouver tomorrow noon, staying with friends and driving to Whistler Friday morning. Much as I want to be there now with all the posts from Facebook, I prefer not to be around a bunch of stressed out triathletes in spandex and compression gear. We're spending our extra time post-race. |
| 2013-08-21 12:32 PM in reply to: ChrisM |
Extreme Veteran  5722   | Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Originally posted by ChrisM Originally posted by TSimone What is your travel schedule for IMC? Flying to Vancouver tomorrow noon, staying with friends and driving to Whistler Friday morning. Much as I want to be there now with all the posts from Facebook, I prefer not to be around a bunch of stressed out triathletes in spandex and compression gear. We're spending our extra time post-race. You're gonna rock it. You are ready, it is very very obvious. |
| 2013-08-21 12:39 PM in reply to: marcag |
Veteran 2842   Austin, Texas | Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... I recall a discussion here some pages back about the W's lost to a straw sticking up in your grille... Behold the Z4+/A2 combo! Posted this over in TT, too, but wanted to show off the slick new setup here to the keepers of the aero keep. (photo 2.JPG) (photo 3.JPG) (photo 1.JPG) Attachments ---------------- photo 2.JPG (700KB - 11 downloads) photo 3.JPG (774KB - 9 downloads) photo 1.JPG (652KB - 11 downloads) |
Worked really well last weekend at Timberman - drink was right in my face (so I stayed hydrated) and was super easy/quick to refill. Plus, I liked the placement of the 800 - easier to see than the previous mount on my aerobar proper. That, and it's all tucked behind my hands (and I could take of the downtube bottle).| 2013-08-21 12:42 PM in reply to: ChrisM |
Veteran 2842 Austin, Texas | Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Originally posted by ChrisM Originally posted by TSimone What is your travel schedule for IMC? Flying to Vancouver tomorrow noon, staying with friends and driving to Whistler Friday morning. Much as I want to be there now with all the posts from Facebook, I prefer not to be around a bunch of stressed out triathletes in spandex and compression gear. We're spending our extra time post-race. Sounds awesome - and what a venue! Hope you have a great race - you've trained hard enough to derserve it. Looking forward to the RR, for sure. Matt |
| 2013-08-21 12:44 PM in reply to: mcmanusclan5 |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Matt, I now hate on you for so much more than your PM--bike, woodwork. I may not be able to extend you much kindness anymore. Your very jealous friend, Elesa |
| 2013-08-21 12:44 PM in reply to: marcag |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Originally posted by marcag Originally posted by ChrisM You're gonna rock it. You are ready, it is very very obvious. Originally posted by TSimone What is your travel schedule for IMC? Flying to Vancouver tomorrow noon, staying with friends and driving to Whistler Friday morning. Much as I want to be there now with all the posts from Facebook, I prefer not to be around a bunch of stressed out triathletes in spandex and compression gear. We're spending our extra time post-race. YUP, this ^^^! |
| 2013-08-21 12:56 PM in reply to: mcmanusclan5 |
| Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 I recall a discussion here some pages back about the W's lost to a straw sticking up in your grille... Behold the Z4+/A2 combo! Posted this over in TT, too, but wanted to show off the slick new setup here to the keepers of the aero keep. Nice - I just got the Z4. Not using the A2 for the IM, but will still for HIM. Will be doing something similar (but with a DIY clamp from Home Depot) |
| 2013-08-21 12:58 PM in reply to: 0 |
| Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Originally posted by marcag Originally posted by ChrisM You're gonna rock it. You are ready, it is very very obvious. Originally posted by TSimone What is your travel schedule for IMC? Flying to Vancouver tomorrow noon, staying with friends and driving to Whistler Friday morning. Much as I want to be there now with all the posts from Facebook, I prefer not to be around a bunch of stressed out triathletes in spandex and compression gear. We're spending our extra time post-race. Thanks, workign with Shane has been a fantastic experience. I told my wife I seriously cannot think of a single additional thing I could have done training for this race btw, tomorrow will be my "official" race weigh in. Goal was to race at 185, this a.m. was 184. Assuming I stay away from the ice cream tonight, it should be good to go. Edited by ChrisM 2013-08-21 12:59 PM |
| 2013-08-21 1:59 PM in reply to: ChrisM |
| Payson, AZ | Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Originally posted by ChrisM Originally posted by marcag Originally posted by ChrisM You're gonna rock it. You are ready, it is very very obvious. Originally posted by TSimone What is your travel schedule for IMC? Flying to Vancouver tomorrow noon, staying with friends and driving to Whistler Friday morning. Much as I want to be there now with all the posts from Facebook, I prefer not to be around a bunch of stressed out triathletes in spandex and compression gear. We're spending our extra time post-race. Thanks, workign with Shane has been a fantastic experience. I told my wife I seriously cannot think of a single additional thing I could have done training for this race btw, tomorrow will be my "official" race weigh in. Goal was to race at 185, this a.m. was 184. Assuming I stay away from the ice cream tonight, it should be good to go. hum, stay away from ice cream?!!?!? You seem super ready for this race. Of course the race will give you what it gives you but I anticipate a good day |
| 2013-08-21 5:14 PM in reply to: ChrisM |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Originally posted by ChrisM Originally posted by marcag Originally posted by ChrisM You're gonna rock it. You are ready, it is very very obvious. Originally posted by TSimone What is your travel schedule for IMC? Flying to Vancouver tomorrow noon, staying with friends and driving to Whistler Friday morning. Much as I want to be there now with all the posts from Facebook, I prefer not to be around a bunch of stressed out triathletes in spandex and compression gear. We're spending our extra time post-race. Thanks, workign with Shane has been a fantastic experience. I told my wife I seriously cannot think of a single additional thing I could have done training for this race btw, tomorrow will be my "official" race weigh in. Goal was to race at 185, this a.m. was 184. Assuming I stay away from the ice cream tonight, it should be good to go. You are going to have a fantastic race Chris! Good luck and safe travels! |
| 2013-08-21 5:15 PM in reply to: axteraa |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Finally got my race report from the weekend done. http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=498666 |
| 2013-08-21 6:19 PM in reply to: switch |
Veteran 2842 Austin, Texas | Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Originally posted by switch Thanks Matt, I now hate on you for so much more than your PM--bike, woodwork. I may not be able to extend you much kindness anymore. Your very jealous friend, Elesa  M |
| 2013-08-21 6:38 PM in reply to: ChrisM |
| Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Best of luck Chris. I keep meaning to do it, but I'm going to hit that donation page tonight...just so you have a little more incentive at mile 15 on the run.  |
 2013-08-21 8:15 PM in reply to: #4768732 |
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| 2013-08-21 8:30 PM in reply to: Jason N |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Some of this trainer stuff is going to kill me, 277 for near 3 hrs and some parts were certainly not steady. But this is how you you know it's good for you, right? |
| 2013-08-22 3:06 AM in reply to: brigby1 |
| Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Originally posted by brigby1 Some of this trainer stuff is going to kill me, 277 for near 3 hrs and some parts were certainly not steady. But this is how you you know it's good for you, right? Good grief! that's all I got - I can't fathom putting out that kind of power. |
| 2013-08-22 7:19 AM in reply to: axteraa |
| Champion 7595 Columbia, South Carolina | Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Originally posted by axteraa Originally posted by brigby1 Some of this trainer stuff is going to kill me, 277 for near 3 hrs and some parts were certainly not steady. But this is how you you know it's good for you, right? Good grief! that's all I got - I can't fathom putting out that kind of power. Yes you can! Just not for 3 hours... ;-) |
| 2013-08-22 7:28 AM in reply to: axteraa |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Originally posted by axteraa Originally posted by brigby1 Some of this trainer stuff is going to kill me, 277 for near 3 hrs and some parts were certainly not steady. But this is how you you know it's good for you, right? Good grief! that's all I got - I can't fathom putting out that kind of power. Well not with that attitude. |
| 2013-08-22 7:33 AM in reply to: brigby1 |
Veteran 1677 Houston, Texas | Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Originally posted by brigby1 Some of this trainer stuff is going to kill me, 277 for near 3 hrs and some parts were certainly not steady. But this is how you you know it's good for you, right? I just got back on the trainer Tuesday for the first time in over a month....I thought it was trying to kill me and I was nowhere near 277W OR three hours! Sounds like you're putting out some big power these days, Ben. What's next for you? |
| 2013-08-22 8:23 AM in reply to: Experior |
| Elite 3779 Ontario | Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Originally posted by Experior Originally posted by axteraa Originally posted by brigby1 Some of this trainer stuff is going to kill me, 277 for near 3 hrs and some parts were certainly not steady. But this is how you you know it's good for you, right? Good grief! that's all I got - I can't fathom putting out that kind of power. Yes you can! Just not for 3 hours... ;-) I'm pretty sure I could do that kind of power...oh wait, that's hours, not minutes. Chris - best of luck at the race. Hoping it all comes together the way you want. As for me, I ran with the LRS group last night, but I didn't realize they were doing a timed mile at the track. No that anyone will remember but I ran a 5:31 the last time doing this back in June, and was pretty happy with that time. Things didn't go so well this time round, and I went 5:51. I think I could have eeked out a few more seconds, but I really wasn't motivated to bury myself for this one. Either way, the lack of consistency is pretty apparent to me at this point - I need a plan of some kind. Winging it worked pretty well last year, but hasn't been as good this year. Like I posted the other day. I need to find something that's going to work for me to get me faster on the bike. I'm thinking that likely needs to be a willingness to get on the bike 5-6 days a week over a good period of time, and a further willingness to suffer a bit, but I'm clueless as to how to structure it. |
| 2013-08-22 8:32 AM in reply to: GoFaster |
| Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Originally posted by GoFaster Originally posted by Experior I'm pretty sure I could do that kind of power...oh wait, that's hours, not minutes. Chris - best of luck at the race. Hoping it all comes together the way you want. As for me, I ran with the LRS group last night, but I didn't realize they were doing a timed mile at the track. No that anyone will remember but I ran a 5:31 the last time doing this back in June, and was pretty happy with that time. Things didn't go so well this time round, and I went 5:51. I think I could have eeked out a few more seconds, but I really wasn't motivated to bury myself for this one. Either way, the lack of consistency is pretty apparent to me at this point - I need a plan of some kind. Winging it worked pretty well last year, but hasn't been as good this year. Like I posted the other day. I need to find something that's going to work for me to get me faster on the bike. I'm thinking that likely needs to be a willingness to get on the bike 5-6 days a week over a good period of time, and a further willingness to suffer a bit, but I'm clueless as to how to structure it. Originally posted by axteraa Yes you can! Just not for 3 hours... ;-) Originally posted by brigby1 Some of this trainer stuff is going to kill me, 277 for near 3 hrs and some parts were certainly not steady. But this is how you you know it's good for you, right? Good grief! that's all I got - I can't fathom putting out that kind of power. Is 5-6 really necessary? I got some pretty good improvements off of just 3 trainer rides/week over the winter. All 3 were hard though - no fluff. The high level approach was one threshold ride, one VO2max ride and one longer'ish (not 3 hours at 277w |
| 2013-08-22 8:57 AM in reply to: axteraa |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Originally posted by axteraa Originally posted by GoFaster Originally posted by Experior I'm pretty sure I could do that kind of power...oh wait, that's hours, not minutes. Chris - best of luck at the race. Hoping it all comes together the way you want. As for me, I ran with the LRS group last night, but I didn't realize they were doing a timed mile at the track. No that anyone will remember but I ran a 5:31 the last time doing this back in June, and was pretty happy with that time. Things didn't go so well this time round, and I went 5:51. I think I could have eeked out a few more seconds, but I really wasn't motivated to bury myself for this one. Either way, the lack of consistency is pretty apparent to me at this point - I need a plan of some kind. Winging it worked pretty well last year, but hasn't been as good this year. Like I posted the other day. I need to find something that's going to work for me to get me faster on the bike. I'm thinking that likely needs to be a willingness to get on the bike 5-6 days a week over a good period of time, and a further willingness to suffer a bit, but I'm clueless as to how to structure it. Originally posted by axteraa Yes you can! Just not for 3 hours... ;-) Originally posted by brigby1 Some of this trainer stuff is going to kill me, 277 for near 3 hrs and some parts were certainly not steady. But this is how you you know it's good for you, right? Good grief! that's all I got - I can't fathom putting out that kind of power. Is 5-6 really necessary? I got some pretty good improvements off of just 3 trainer rides/week over the winter. All 3 were hard though - no fluff. The high level approach was one threshold ride, one VO2max ride and one longer'ish (not 3 hours at 277w 3-4 should be plenty. I've started doing 5 more recently mostly just because I wanted to ride more often. Last year was 4 and I was stronger then. Others who are faster have done 4. Neil, I looked, but didn't really see details of the rides. It's all just mileage and time. What are you doing on them? The composition matters, a lot. There are similarities, but it's not quite the same as running. |
| 2013-08-22 10:27 AM in reply to: brigby1 |
| Elite 3779 Ontario | Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by axteraa Originally posted by GoFaster Originally posted by Experior I'm pretty sure I could do that kind of power...oh wait, that's hours, not minutes. Chris - best of luck at the race. Hoping it all comes together the way you want. As for me, I ran with the LRS group last night, but I didn't realize they were doing a timed mile at the track. No that anyone will remember but I ran a 5:31 the last time doing this back in June, and was pretty happy with that time. Things didn't go so well this time round, and I went 5:51. I think I could have eeked out a few more seconds, but I really wasn't motivated to bury myself for this one. Either way, the lack of consistency is pretty apparent to me at this point - I need a plan of some kind. Winging it worked pretty well last year, but hasn't been as good this year. Like I posted the other day. I need to find something that's going to work for me to get me faster on the bike. I'm thinking that likely needs to be a willingness to get on the bike 5-6 days a week over a good period of time, and a further willingness to suffer a bit, but I'm clueless as to how to structure it. Originally posted by axteraa Yes you can! Just not for 3 hours... ;-) Originally posted by brigby1 Some of this trainer stuff is going to kill me, 277 for near 3 hrs and some parts were certainly not steady. But this is how you you know it's good for you, right? Good grief! that's all I got - I can't fathom putting out that kind of power. Is 5-6 really necessary? I got some pretty good improvements off of just 3 trainer rides/week over the winter. All 3 were hard though - no fluff. The high level approach was one threshold ride, one VO2max ride and one longer'ish (not 3 hours at 277w 3-4 should be plenty. I've started doing 5 more recently mostly just because I wanted to ride more often. Last year was 4 and I was stronger then. Others who are faster have done 4. Neil, I looked, but didn't really see details of the rides. It's all just mileage and time. What are you doing on them? The composition matters, a lot. There are similarities, but it's not quite the same as running. I'll reply to both in responses in 1. Arend - I don't know that 3 rides per week is going to get me too far at this point. At least that's what I'm thinking in my head. I've done Jorge's winter program over the years, and it seemed like it was beginning to have diminishing returns. Given the program should allow for improvement over your current fitness/power level, I took that to mean that I need to do things differently, but that the main limiter may be the fact I'm only doing 3 rides per week - although that has fallen off with poor training the past couple of months. Ben - almost all of the outdoor rides have been ridden around 80-85% FTP, and most of that is steady riding over the course of the ride. Those longer rides have not really been broken into easy/hard segments. As for any indoor rides, these have typically only been around 45-60min, and it's been a mix of threshold, 3/4 x10min @ 90-100% and some VO2, 10x30sec / 5x1min. But to be completely honest and open, I don't think I've ridden as hard as I could on those trainer workouts (note the absence of 20min at 100%). Part of missing motivation, is that I've wondered what I'm gaining from incremental increases in wattage. My times are not that different from last year, even though I had more/better bike miles last year and, even though not tested, I know my FTP would have been higher. So I don't believe that small changes of 5-10watts in my FTP is going to have much of an impact on my performance. Going on the assumption that a 10% speed increase requires a 30% power increase (all else being relative), I figure I need to find 15% over the next 9 months, which is roughly 35 watts - which is huge (and scary). I really don't know if I have the capability after 5/6 years of training to find that much of an increase, because finding just a few watts is hard enough. |
| 2013-08-22 10:40 AM in reply to: brigby1 |
| Expert 1260 Norton Shores, MI | Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by axteraa Originally posted by GoFaster Originally posted by Experior I'm pretty sure I could do that kind of power...oh wait, that's hours, not minutes. Chris - best of luck at the race. Hoping it all comes together the way you want. As for me, I ran with the LRS group last night, but I didn't realize they were doing a timed mile at the track. No that anyone will remember but I ran a 5:31 the last time doing this back in June, and was pretty happy with that time. Things didn't go so well this time round, and I went 5:51. I think I could have eeked out a few more seconds, but I really wasn't motivated to bury myself for this one. Either way, the lack of consistency is pretty apparent to me at this point - I need a plan of some kind. Winging it worked pretty well last year, but hasn't been as good this year. Like I posted the other day. I need to find something that's going to work for me to get me faster on the bike. I'm thinking that likely needs to be a willingness to get on the bike 5-6 days a week over a good period of time, and a further willingness to suffer a bit, but I'm clueless as to how to structure it. Originally posted by axteraa Yes you can! Just not for 3 hours... ;-) Originally posted by brigby1 Some of this trainer stuff is going to kill me, 277 for near 3 hrs and some parts were certainly not steady. But this is how you you know it's good for you, right? Good grief! that's all I got - I can't fathom putting out that kind of power. Is 5-6 really necessary? I got some pretty good improvements off of just 3 trainer rides/week over the winter. All 3 were hard though - no fluff. The high level approach was one threshold ride, one VO2max ride and one longer'ish (not 3 hours at 277w 3-4 should be plenty. I've started doing 5 more recently mostly just because I wanted to ride more often. Last year was 4 and I was stronger then. Others who are faster have done 4. Neil, I looked, but didn't really see details of the rides. It's all just mileage and time. What are you doing on them? The composition matters, a lot. There are similarities, but it's not quite the same as running. I think sometimes it is good to switch up the stimulus. Most of us turn up the intensity aspect, especially during the winter and for good reason (i.e. indoor training). I think moving to 5-6 rides a week can certainly boost fitness if you have been riding the "intensity train" for awhile. Especially if you enjoy riding. That said, I usually always manipulate intensity because I have no time for big volume!! |
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